rescuing an old friend

[M4wdFab]

for you perfect, for anyone else useless as all hell. 

[Wingman]

If I hadn't picked up the Rubicon, I would have swapped in an Atlas or Stak.  Crawler gear for wreck wheeling is nearly the holy grail!

[rejeep]

for you perfect, for anyone else useless as all hell.

please explain

[M4wdFab]

expensive
bolt in
weak


you can say you have an atlas though!

[rejeep]

you are the second person to tell me its weak...

It was suggested to me to go with a T18 and keep the 4:1 NP231...

I dont think weak is perfect for anybody.. but I will give you the other 2.. I do like turn key, easy things..

[M4wdFab]

well there is a lot of speculation i don't really care to read up on pirate about- 

they had oiling issues, and supposed fixed- so careful about what gen you buy.  Seems like Racers still cant make them last- which would make me be cautioned on a street rig at highway speeds. 

[rejeep]

exactly what was said to me.....

I agree... if this was a dedicated trail rig it would be another story..
but then again if it was a dedicated trail rig I wouldnt have this problem because I would have deeper axle gears...

I need to spend some time with the jeep in 4th and see if I can live without an overdrive... I have a feeling its going to be a new tranny

[Ryan]

Swapping in a Rubicon case would be a better option.

NV4500 or SM420 would be a better choice if you are swapping transmissions.  You get a good low first and overdrive with the 4500.

[rejeep]

what’s inherently the difference between the rubi case and a tera low unit?  same ratio right?
T18 keeps it all relatively simple.. plus I have a source..

[Ryan]

Ratio is the same, but the Rubi case has larger internals, its a 241 not a 231.

[rejeep]

got it.. but same mounting pattern...
so in the grand scheme of life it can be an upgrade for later while addressing a different issue now..

[cracker]

I think the only thing the Rubi case would give you is a slightly beefier chain and gears, it is the same ratio as you have. T18 sounds like a good way if it has lower gears then your current trans.

[rejeep]

would jump from 63:1 to 104:1

[Wingman]

wait...  63:1 isn't low enough for you? 

[rejeep]

Thats what I thought....
but im telling you there was more that 1 time this weekend where sombody asked
"not to be a dick, but you are in 4 low"
lot of clutch slip and throttle was used where it shouldnt have been needed..

just not creepy enough...