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M4wdFab

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data storage
« on: December 31, 2020, 05:47:11 PM »
producing 5-20GB of video for each youtube video will start to get painful

looking for a 5-12TB external drive thats reliable- any favorites in the IT world out there?  under 200$ looks like on amazon right now

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Re: data storage
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2020, 06:59:24 PM »
very annoying to normal people like my self that i think are pretty well versed in making sure they buy what they want and actually look at specs-really annoying when big box sites dont match for ex, the 12TB drive that fits the bill listed two places with one place saying minimum requirements of win10/8.1 for compatibility, but the other also lists win7. 

where does the madness stop IT Karen!

https://www.newegg.com/black-wd-elements-12tb/p/N82E16822234406 

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-easystore-12tb-external-usb-3-0-hard-drive-black/6364259.p?skuId=6364259&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=1541&ref=212&loc=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAirb_BRBNEiwALHlnD9To6ruD22H04ZrNdYqPB_NZSmrXrcZK5bhK8V0bMsvV2qhIc27wZxoCX_MQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds 

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Re: data storage
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2020, 07:02:53 PM »
It definitely adds up fast.

Deciding whether you want to try and keep your raw for future projects, or to just keep the final product has huge space implications. Pretending that you'll use it later, but not having it logged and able to find a clip you're looking for can turn that into a waste. If you want to keep it and you're counting on it, one copy of it is as good as none since if the drive fails it's gone.

If I were you, I'd grab a single 4-8TB spinning disk for bulk storage and sign up for BackBlaze cloud backup since it's set it n forget it. It'll back up any directly connected external drive as long as it's online at least every 30 or 45 days. It's like $150/yr or something like that. I've had it on my parent's computers for years Just In Case.

I have a little Synology that I picked up a month or three ago. I've been evaluating it for work and haven't set it up at home but it'll eventually be my backup destination/bulk storage for home things, as well as probably running my cameras. But that's unnecessary complexity expense and capability for a one-man show without a latent computer hobby. One big drive with backup and send it. Add another later if/when needed.
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Re: data storage
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2020, 07:06:40 PM »
hard drives don't give a fuck about operating system. whatever stupid/useless tools and utilities they come with might, but that's all garbage.

What matters is how it's connected. If this is going on that old HP laptop [with the dead and unsupported and unpatched OS -karen] I hope it has USB 3. That's the likely standard you'll be working with. USB 2 would be real slow.
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Re: data storage
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2020, 07:09:05 PM »
good god that's mind-bendingly cheap. I remember when I got my first biggish storage, when 250GB drives came down to $1/GB...
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Re: data storage
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2020, 07:21:08 PM »
The HP G60 is just for the shop for LS PCM stuff.  not much else. 

I have been using the PC you set up for me a while back its a opti980 with a 500GB.  runs pretty good- video editing is actually not terrible on it and ill probably roll with it unless i make the jump to 4k from 1080 footage. 

i have an external drive, no idea how bit it is probably 200 or 500GB, but cant seem to locate a power supply for it- no idea whats still on it.  Im terrible about caring about data-  i just dumped 15GB of PICTURES off my phone to my PC- i try to do that at least every two years to keep something other than FB if the thing bricks.  meh 

not sure i really want to get into going back to re using raw footage- im trying to police my self to stick to my plan, run with it, edit it and thats it.  i guess if i start to bucket footage of different things over longer periods of time, to edit later ill have to rethink that.



Most annoying, i cannot get my gopro hero 3+ to hold a freaking date other that 1/1/2013 every time i pull the SD card.  who is responsible for this fail my lord.


if hard drive $$ surprise you check out what 23$ gets you lol
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DVX1HQM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ACUBK0CPN61TD&psc=1 

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Re: data storage
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2021, 07:21:01 AM »
Wow. Is it GoPro 3/4 comparable like it looks, or is it a potato like it’s priced is the question.

Not surprised that 980 is struggling. That’s like a 10 years or older machine now, probably similar to the HP.

Zero retired machines last year. Idk how this year is looking. But as cheap as a single PC is these days, would probably cut your frustration (ignoring the annoyance of migration) to grab something fresher for $500-800.
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Re: data storage
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2021, 09:08:13 AM »
not sure on the ChoPro, i ordered 2 of them, we will see. 

they have the newer 4k copy one also for 29$ lol

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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2021, 10:18:16 AM »
Now that you say “cho pro” it reminds me that timing was crap on the one Cora had. I had to run footage from that one at 1.02x or something like that and trim 5 frames off the end of every file because the recordings overlapped.

It sucked to integrate with real GoPro things.

Maybe it was a 29.97 vs 30 fps thing that could be fixed in settings to not make editing such an annoyance. But if you’re not typing to sync multiple shots for side by side views it wouldn’t matter. It just sucked for multi-cam.
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Re: data storage
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2021, 05:57:08 PM »
not impressed by the chopros, 3 times failed but should be good to try next time.  found it was set default to 3min video and 50hz- initial videos were very grainy. 


the back display is super nice though.  not sure they will be usable.  i opened up one of them, probably send back the 2nd one but honestly the 20$ its not really worth it lol 

o well. 


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Re: data storage
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2021, 05:58:05 PM »
also just ordered at 10 TB drive.  im 4/5 full on my PC right now. 

I guess PC shoping soon- would be nice to get something that can edit 4k but i have no idea what to look for. 

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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2021, 06:14:57 PM »
the only up-side to 4k for what you're doing is to crop down a shot and still have 720 or 1080 output after zooming in or panning with what had been a fixed shot.

I'm no good for PC shopping. I think I saw recently that Tom just was asking on fb. I'm sure any spec that meets the Fortnight desires would make a fine video editing thing.
Apple just made a HUGE leap in performance, so I'm ignoring Windows hardware even more than usual. I can't imagine it being worth a platform switch for ya ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: data storage
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2021, 06:38:29 PM »
4k editing needs a powerful machine to render the video.

Any old gaming machine on the Marketplace should work relatively well. Video cards are what does most of the rendering

This looks good  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/230663758583812/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined

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Re: data storage
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2021, 06:50:58 PM »
right now my machine starts at 20 FPS of 1080 and goes down to about 3FPS buy the end of a 20 min video- usually takes between 1-3 hours to render.  does it fine but you have to just let it sit and crank, will not do ANYTHING else when its running. 

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Re: data storage
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2021, 06:53:56 PM »
the linked machine is 87x better at all computing tasks than what you're on now, particularly video things.
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