M4wd&Fabrications
Projects place => Classifieds => Wanted => Topic started by: M4wdFab on December 31, 2020, 05:47:11 PM
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producing 5-20GB of video for each youtube video will start to get painful
looking for a 5-12TB external drive thats reliable- any favorites in the IT world out there? under 200$ looks like on amazon right now
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very annoying to normal people like my self that i think are pretty well versed in making sure they buy what they want and actually look at specs-really annoying when big box sites dont match for ex, the 12TB drive that fits the bill listed two places with one place saying minimum requirements of win10/8.1 for compatibility, but the other also lists win7.
where does the madness stop IT Karen!
https://www.newegg.com/black-wd-elements-12tb/p/N82E16822234406
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-easystore-12tb-external-usb-3-0-hard-drive-black/6364259.p?skuId=6364259&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=1541&ref=212&loc=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAirb_BRBNEiwALHlnD9To6ruD22H04ZrNdYqPB_NZSmrXrcZK5bhK8V0bMsvV2qhIc27wZxoCX_MQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
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It definitely adds up fast.
Deciding whether you want to try and keep your raw for future projects, or to just keep the final product has huge space implications. Pretending that you'll use it later, but not having it logged and able to find a clip you're looking for can turn that into a waste. If you want to keep it and you're counting on it, one copy of it is as good as none since if the drive fails it's gone.
If I were you, I'd grab a single 4-8TB spinning disk for bulk storage and sign up for BackBlaze cloud backup since it's set it n forget it. It'll back up any directly connected external drive as long as it's online at least every 30 or 45 days. It's like $150/yr or something like that. I've had it on my parent's computers for years Just In Case.
I have a little Synology that I picked up a month or three ago. I've been evaluating it for work and haven't set it up at home but it'll eventually be my backup destination/bulk storage for home things, as well as probably running my cameras. But that's unnecessary complexity expense and capability for a one-man show without a latent computer hobby. One big drive with backup and send it. Add another later if/when needed.
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hard drives don't give a fuck about operating system. whatever stupid/useless tools and utilities they come with might, but that's all garbage.
What matters is how it's connected. If this is going on that old HP laptop [with the dead and unsupported and unpatched OS -karen] I hope it has USB 3. That's the likely standard you'll be working with. USB 2 would be real slow.
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good god that's mind-bendingly cheap. I remember when I got my first biggish storage, when 250GB drives came down to $1/GB...
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The HP G60 is just for the shop for LS PCM stuff. not much else.
I have been using the PC you set up for me a while back its a opti980 with a 500GB. runs pretty good- video editing is actually not terrible on it and ill probably roll with it unless i make the jump to 4k from 1080 footage.
i have an external drive, no idea how bit it is probably 200 or 500GB, but cant seem to locate a power supply for it- no idea whats still on it. Im terrible about caring about data- i just dumped 15GB of PICTURES off my phone to my PC- i try to do that at least every two years to keep something other than FB if the thing bricks. meh
not sure i really want to get into going back to re using raw footage- im trying to police my self to stick to my plan, run with it, edit it and thats it. i guess if i start to bucket footage of different things over longer periods of time, to edit later ill have to rethink that.
Most annoying, i cannot get my gopro hero 3+ to hold a freaking date other that 1/1/2013 every time i pull the SD card. who is responsible for this fail my lord.
if hard drive $$ surprise you check out what 23$ gets you lol
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DVX1HQM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ACUBK0CPN61TD&psc=1
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Wow. Is it GoPro 3/4 comparable like it looks, or is it a potato like it’s priced is the question.
Not surprised that 980 is struggling. That’s like a 10 years or older machine now, probably similar to the HP.
Zero retired machines last year. Idk how this year is looking. But as cheap as a single PC is these days, would probably cut your frustration (ignoring the annoyance of migration) to grab something fresher for $500-800.
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not sure on the ChoPro, i ordered 2 of them, we will see.
they have the newer 4k copy one also for 29$ lol
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Now that you say “cho pro†it reminds me that timing was crap on the one Cora had. I had to run footage from that one at 1.02x or something like that and trim 5 frames off the end of every file because the recordings overlapped.
It sucked to integrate with real GoPro things.
Maybe it was a 29.97 vs 30 fps thing that could be fixed in settings to not make editing such an annoyance. But if you’re not typing to sync multiple shots for side by side views it wouldn’t matter. It just sucked for multi-cam.
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not impressed by the chopros, 3 times failed but should be good to try next time. found it was set default to 3min video and 50hz- initial videos were very grainy.
the back display is super nice though. not sure they will be usable. i opened up one of them, probably send back the 2nd one but honestly the 20$ its not really worth it lol
o well.
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also just ordered at 10 TB drive. im 4/5 full on my PC right now.
I guess PC shoping soon- would be nice to get something that can edit 4k but i have no idea what to look for.
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the only up-side to 4k for what you're doing is to crop down a shot and still have 720 or 1080 output after zooming in or panning with what had been a fixed shot.
I'm no good for PC shopping. I think I saw recently that Tom just was asking on fb. I'm sure any spec that meets the Fortnight desires would make a fine video editing thing.
Apple just made a HUGE leap in performance, so I'm ignoring Windows hardware even more than usual. I can't imagine it being worth a platform switch for ya ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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4k editing needs a powerful machine to render the video.
Any old gaming machine on the Marketplace should work relatively well. Video cards are what does most of the rendering
This looks good https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/230663758583812/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
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right now my machine starts at 20 FPS of 1080 and goes down to about 3FPS buy the end of a 20 min video- usually takes between 1-3 hours to render. does it fine but you have to just let it sit and crank, will not do ANYTHING else when its running.
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the linked machine is 87x better at all computing tasks than what you're on now, particularly video things.
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its been two decades since i bought a video card, what would be good specs to use for sourcing an economical machine today?
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any amd threadripper cpu, radeon rx 6900 gpu ,64 gig of 3600 ram, 1tb of m.2 hard drive
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I have a AMD Ryzen 7 2700x 32gb of DDR4 ram and a 1060 video card. It is plenty for video editing. I think the 1660 is the replacement for the 1060 card now.
I can render and still use the computer.
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Hot deal - JUMP ON THIS.
https://slickdeals.net/f/14756575-dell-xps-8940-desktop-i5-10400-16gb-ram-256gb-nvme-ssd-1tb-hdd-rtx-2060-790-free-shipping?v=1
Dell XPS 8940 Desktop: i5-10400 (6 core, 12 threads), 16GB RAM, 256GB NVMe SSD, 1TB HDD, RTX 2060 $790 + Free Shipping
Dell has the New XPS 8940 Intel Core i5-10400 6-Core Mini Tower Gaming Desktop with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060, 16GB RAM, 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Boot SSD + 1TB Hard Drive for $790.00 with Free Shipping after coupon code: "DTXPSAFF016" (ends soon). This is a recurring deal with a new code and an upgrade to the RTX 2060.
I removed Premium Support and added Basic Hardware Support to bring the PC from $799.99 to $790.00. Premium Support is a subscription at $9.99/month thereafter if you don't remove it.
The second coupon code shown in the images (NDAR2DFREE) was automatically added when I logged into my Dell Advantage account providing free (-$15) upgrade to Expedited Shipping.
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Wow, I second that for certain. Tempted to grab myself but I DO NOT need a third new computer.
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Newegg has had almost exact same setup for over $100 less that I've shared with Tom the difference there being a 1660 vs the 2060 which gives no benefit to video editing
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hmm, i think i spent too much this first week of unemployment already- haha. thanks for info- i want to do some research. a new machine is def a want and not a need right now.
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got the new 10TB drive loaded up- is 20mb/sec expected? seems kinda slow lol i guess i could check if the USB port is a 2.0 or 3.0 im using. not sure there are about 8 on this machine.
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That's slow as hell and will cause video editing issues if you work from it.
What speed's the hdd? 5.4krpm?
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i got this one in the 10TB
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G3QMPB5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
one of the reviews said sustained 100mb/s which i had read before buying
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Do you mean slow as in transferring from PC to hd, or editing speeds? If your working on a project you should have the files on your main drive ,then transfer to the external once your done
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that sounds super annoying and not what i had planned.
transfer from SD to PC
edit on PC
render
transfer project to external
move raw files to external
then if you want to resume editing, its a remapping cluster to individually map each clip location.
fail.
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https://www.diyphotography.net/how-to-use-blackmagic-disk-speed-test-on-a-pc/
Evaluate speed and video resolution support with Black Magic Speed Test. I guess it’s a little annoying to install on windows.
Working off externals that are quick enough is perfectly acceptable IMO
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ok still cranking on this process.
I think i need to up grade my PC, and my transfer device of microSD to WD Elements 10TB HD. still only seeing 10-14MB/s data transfer. takes about 25min to get files from gopro card to HD for editing (meh)
im using openshot editor which seems to fit my needs. i cant view 1080 at 16x though so that adds some faith in editing. rendering a 10-20 min video is now pushing 4hours with an unusable PC during that time.
im really ignorant on this computer stuff- i have tried to research but its an endless loop of decisions. i guess im looking for something adequate in the sub 800$ range or cheaper to fund a newer go pro next.
any suggestions - links to deals?
like this but more RAM and better GPU?
https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Desktop-Trace-9310/dp/B08FPL6S4Y/ref=asc_df_B08FPL6S4Y/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459641872450&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3644600563241062495&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9005654&hvtargid=pla-974366190155&th=1
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I’d look for a used gaming PC with 16gb ram and a 1070 for a bit less money than that and it will be 10x faster than what you’re using.
Wish I had fresh hand me downs but nothing is getting replaced yet.
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This guy has a small store by the lake I've bought parts from here and there, building off what Mike Mike said the 570 is comparable to a 1070
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3797118206990735/
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im ok will spending a couple bucks more for buy it now and new. im not really in the mood to build something or deal with a used thing. Would probably upgrade monitor and keyboards also. my stuff is old.