Author Topic: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge  (Read 32965 times)

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #90 on: December 09, 2014, 12:52:19 AM »
I haven't try to slip it in 5th but slipping in 3rd and 4th was enough and don't want to kill the clutch just yet.

I'll try to describe how it slips. I shift it into either 3rd or 4th, lift off the clutch which take the RPM to ~1400, and start to give it throttle at around 1/2 way down, by the time it's at ~1600-1700 RPM where the turbo lights then the RPM abruptly moves to ~2250-2500 RPM but the truck doesn't either accelerate accordingly or smoking tires, back off the throttle, it'll quickly drops to ~1800 RPM. Truck doesn't jerks, bucks or start moving sideway when the the clutch slips, it just felt almost like either I was free revving it or like driving an auto with the torque converter lock-up 'off'.

My truck have the following:
5x12 (90hp?) injectors
#100 fuel plate
16 degree timing
AFC modded for rack travel/tune-ability
4kgsk
Wastegate rusted shut
Mack plug (but it's irrevelant as I'm running a fuel plate)

My truck have 3.55 but Harrison's truck had 4.10 so I kinda think that's what helped the clutch from slipping. Although I wasn't even towing or anything and slip the clutch with no more than 1/2 of throttle.

If I remember correctly Harrison said the clutch only had ~10k miles on it before he part it out. Since it's still fairly new and good so I went with it. Although if it had 100k miles, I will scrap it before I'll even look at it.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #91 on: December 09, 2014, 07:49:56 AM »
10-15k on that clutch. Flywheel machined when I changed it.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #92 on: December 09, 2014, 07:58:25 AM »
Clutch and flywheel kept in same alignment on reinstall?


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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #93 on: December 09, 2014, 08:07:01 AM »
that wouldnt matter

everything good with hydralics and parts swap that could be limiting throw of slave?

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #94 on: December 09, 2014, 09:07:30 AM »
How far off the floor it should start engaging? I think it's more of ~2/3-3/4 way away from the floor.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #95 on: December 09, 2014, 09:23:05 AM »
sounds late for a newish clutch

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #96 on: December 09, 2014, 09:28:26 AM »
That's what concerns me. I'll look at how to correct this.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #97 on: December 09, 2014, 09:59:26 AM »
sounds late for a newish clutch
completely agreed.

fresh clutch should engage at 1/3-1/2 away from floor
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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #98 on: December 09, 2014, 10:19:09 AM »
silly question

any firewall issues, or parts swap issues?



maybe a set of ears on it to see if throwout is dragging at all with cluch out, possible air in system?

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #99 on: December 09, 2014, 10:57:03 AM »
How about I come by at your shop, Smike, sometime soon for your good ears? I'll appreciate it. Preferably today/tonight before we get snow!

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #100 on: December 10, 2014, 10:09:26 AM »
i should be in the shop just about every night by 7 for the rest of the year

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #101 on: December 10, 2014, 12:23:41 PM »
I have the same problem with mine.  Only happens when f'ing around with no load or no trailer.  Towed all this summer on it and never a problem with it slipping when towing.  It didn't like the abrupt power when the boast hits.

Only happened in 3rd or 4th when I rolled on it hard.  Same rpm and so on.

I do have a 13.25" southbend clutch sitting in the garage ready to install if it gets bad though.   ;)

$800 bucks worth of clutch.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #102 on: December 10, 2014, 12:31:44 PM »
Alright although I'd image when towing it'll just get worse if I still don't turn down the power. And I want to make sure everything else are right as just in case something prevent the clutch from fully engage such as it seem like my clutch pedal's engaging height is abnormal high.

I just bought 8" of 5/16" bolts to make my own shorter-than-stock slave cylinder push rod hopefully to bring the pedal height down.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #103 on: December 10, 2014, 03:11:56 PM »
I just made one almost 1" shorter. I still don't have problem shifting as if it's not disengaging.

Pedal height didn't change much.

Clutch still slips. I'll put stock fuel plate back in slid all the way forward for now.

Is it normal that I need to force the slave cylinder in to start the nuts on the studs? With the shorter push rod I don't need to push in as hard though. I think I'll make one more push rod that'll be 1.5" shorter than stock just to see what happen.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #104 on: December 10, 2014, 05:16:46 PM »
That seems like a huge amount of change for no effect.

Are you certain the clutch fork and ball are in their happy place on the other side of the bell housing?
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