Author Topic: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge  (Read 32420 times)

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2014, 06:40:37 PM »
I like to do new things. It seemly to be almost a bolt-on deal so I'll try to make it happen. I'm sure many will appreciate this upgrade among 92-97 and 99-04 ford, 94-99 dodge Dana 60s. 

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2014, 11:34:18 PM »
heres some pics

Pads

top 09-up Ram 2500

middle 95-97 F350

bottom 94-99 Ram 2500









94-99 Ram 2500 caliper piston area:

Bore Size=3.14

Pi*r^2=area

Pi*(3.14/2)^2=7.74in^2

95-97 F350 caliper piston area:

Bore Size=2.21

(Pi*(2.21/2)^2)*2=7.67in^2

Take note, the stock dodge stuff have more surface area than the Ford's

2009+ Ram 2500 caliper piston area:

Bore Size=2.334

(Pi*(2.334/2)^2)2=8.56in^2

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((After - Before) / Before)*100 = percentage in change.

94-99 Ram 2500 to 95-97 F350

((7.67-7.74)/7.74)*100=-0.9%

95-97 F350 to 09+ Ram 2500

((8.56-7.67)/7.67)*100=11.6%

94-99 Ram 2500 to 09+ Ram 2500

((8.56-7.74)/7.74)*100=10.6%
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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2014, 12:03:06 AM »
09+ Ram 2500 rear rotor



Part Number: NB 48880733
Product Line: NAPA Brakes Rotors
Attributes:
# of Bolt Holes : 8
Bolt Circle Diameter : 6.5"
Brake Rotor Diameter : 14.09"
Brake Rotor Discard Thickness : 32.4 mm
Brake Rotor Thickness New : 1.34"
Brake Rotor Type : Brake Rotor-dih Parking Brake
Center Hole Diameter : 4.85"
Height : 4.91"
Maximum Lateral Runout : .004"
Vented / Solid : Vented
Mounting Type : Type K - Rotor Only. Wheel Studs Are Pressed Into The Hub Only. The Rotor Is A Loose Fit On The Hub & Is Retained By Either Machine Screws Or The Wheel Nuts. See Diagram For More Information.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2014, 12:04:34 AM »
03-08 Ram 2500 front rotor



Part Number: NB 48880143
Product Line: NAPA Brakes Rotors
Attributes:
# of Bolt Holes : 8
Bolt Circle Diameter : 6.5"
Brake Rotor Diameter : 13.89"
Brake Rotor Discard Thickness : 1.34"
Brake Rotor Thickness New : 1.41"
Brake Rotor Type : Disc Brake Rotor Only
Center Hole Diameter : 4.82"
Height : 4.01"
Maximum Lateral Runout : .004"
Vented / Solid : Vented
Mounting Type : Type K - Rotor Only. Wheel Studs Are Pressed Into The Hub Only. The Rotor Is A Loose Fit On The Hub & Is Retained By Either Machine Screws Or The Wheel Nuts. See Diagram For More Information.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #49 on: April 04, 2014, 12:05:45 AM »
P30 rotor



Part Number: NB 4885980
Product Line: NAPA Brakes Rotors
Attributes:
# of Bolt Holes : 8
Bolt Circle Diameter : 6.5"
Brake Rotor Diameter : 14.23"
Brake Rotor Discard Thickness : 1.46"
Brake Rotor Thickness New : 1.54"
Brake Rotor Type : Disc Brake Rotor Only
Center Hole Diameter : 5.13"
Height : 3.21"
Maximum Lateral Runout : .004"
Vented / Solid : Vented
Mounting Type : Type M - Rotor Only. Rotor Is Attached To A Splined Hub By Studs That Are Pressed & Swaged/enlarged On Their Outer Edges To Hold Hub & Rotor Together. Replace The Complete Assembly If Hub Flange Is Bent Or Damaged. See Diagram For More Information.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #50 on: April 04, 2014, 12:06:46 AM »
95-97 F350 rotor



Part Number: NB 4886476
Product Line: NAPA Brakes Rotors
Attributes:
# of Bolt Holes : 8
Bolt Circle Diameter : 6.5"
Brake Rotor Diameter : 12.95"
Brake Rotor Discard Thickness : 1.12"
Brake Rotor Thickness New : 1.19"
Brake Rotor Type : Disc Brake Rotor Only
Center Hole Diameter : 5.13"
Height : 3.1"
Maximum Lateral Runout : .004"
Vented / Solid : Vented
Mounting Type : Type L - Rotor Only. The Rotor Is Mounted Inboard Of The Hub. The Hub & Rotor Sections Are Bolted Together. Replace The Complete Assembly If Hub Flange Is Bent Or Damaged. See Diagram For More Information.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2014, 12:07:38 AM »
09+ Ram 2500 rotor



Part Number: NB 48880736
Product Line: NAPA Brakes Rotors
Attributes:
# of Bolt Holes : 8
Bolt Circle Diameter : 6.5"
Brake Rotor Diameter : 14.18"
Brake Rotor Discard Thickness : 37.4 mm
Brake Rotor Thickness New : 1.54"
Brake Rotor Type : Brake Rotor
Center Hole Diameter : 4.85"
Height : 4.02"
Maximum Lateral Runout : .004"
Vented / Solid : Vented
Mounting Type : Type K - Rotor Only. Wheel Studs Are Pressed Into The Hub Only. The Rotor Is A Loose Fit On The Hub & Is Retained By Either Machine Screws Or The Wheel Nuts. See Diagram For More Information.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2014, 12:08:38 AM »
94-99 Ram 2500 rotor



Part Number: NB 4886324
Product Line: NAPA Brakes Rotors
Attributes:
# of Bolt Holes : 8
Bolt Circle Diameter : 6.5"
Brake Rotor Diameter : 12.5"
Brake Rotor Discard Thickness : 1.46"
Brake Rotor Thickness New : 1.54"
Brake Rotor Type : Disc Brake Rotor Only
Center Hole Diameter : 5.41"
Height : 2.76"
Maximum Lateral Runout : .004"
Vented / Solid : Vented
Mounting Type : Type L - Rotor Only. The Rotor Is Mounted Inboard Of The Hub. The Hub & Rotor Sections Are Bolted Together. Replace The Complete Assembly If Hub Flange Is Bent Or Damaged. See Diagram For More Information.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2014, 08:18:34 AM »
Some pretty significant differences.  :o
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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2014, 02:41:30 PM »
Getting there

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2014, 12:29:30 PM »















It fits. Only 4 mods needed to do is (1)turn down the hub's flange and (2) the hub pilot diameter slightly, (3) elongate the caliper mount holes and (4) 0.40" spacer between the caliper mount and the bracket.


P30 on left, 09+ ram 2500 on right. The P30 rotor WILL NOT work with 09+ ram 2500's caliper as it's pad is taller and will overhang.

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2014, 12:54:50 PM »
Maybe I'll be able to see better on a computer with larger pictures, but "elongating caliper mounting holes" sounds slightly sketchy?

 Also, depending on where the pads are overhanging, it may be a very easy fix to just grind that part of the friction material away. It's really not a problem at all until things are worn to the point where the brake pads could interfere with one another and interfere with clamping the rotor properly


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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2014, 01:04:57 PM »
I have same concern with elongating the holes.

I think knuckles are cast iron of some sort but I have a bit of idea to find a solid .4" spacer to be welded on to get some strength back instead of stacked washers. I also think about try to find a right size rods to be cut/grind to be inserted in the hole and welded/tacked in place where the bolt won't be, so it can't get out of alignment and also to get some strength back.

However the thin part of the hole shouldn't see as much stress when in use because the bolt will be loaded in the rotation direction so it'll be up against the thicker part of the hole.

I want to do this without modifying wear parts (calipers, pads, rotors) whenever possible.


Also, take note, this new brake set-up will widen the wms-wms by 0.80" overall due to the rotor's face thickness is 0.40".

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #58 on: July 05, 2014, 04:11:13 PM »






Chicago to Las Vegas.

I got to the summit of the Vail Pass before I knew it. It wasn't that bad but the descending part was the most challenging part considering I don't have an exhaust brake. However I managed it quite well by shift her into 1st and periodically brake to bring the speed back down. The egt went down to ~150-200 lol.

I love the 5x12 I put in before the trip but I'm definitely under on air. HE351CW is on my list to put on.

 

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Re: 97 Dodge Ram 2500, AKA Shitty Dodge
« Reply #59 on: July 05, 2014, 06:28:22 PM »
Was just there 4 weeks ago.. nothing will stop me from getting back there with 2-3 rigs for a stint..
I never wanted a red car.. always thought they were tacky and common...
I now have 4 very not common cars and they are all red.. :o