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etk300ex

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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2020, 03:17:51 PM »
They're just heaters, nominal voltage doesn't matter that much.  I'd run a 20A circuit with #10 to each heater.  Gives you about 5% voltage drop.  It'll be fine. 

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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2020, 03:58:31 PM »
Actually, I put in 230'.  Over 250' is pushing it.  Don't forget to add vertical distance also.  Keep it under 5.5%.  I'm sure the heater won't care but it will cut down on the efficiency. 

Wouldn't be a bad idea to put a little sub panel out there as Brett said.  Run a 40A/2P 240V #8s to a little 4 space panel , then you could branch off with 20A, #12 120V circuits no problem.  Its probably a wash in cost, those little panels are $30 (well they were last I knew).   

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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2020, 04:49:24 PM »
ok, I did account for vertical

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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2020, 04:51:38 PM »
if it is in conduit does it still need to be UF or can it be standard Romex?

Not suppose to run sheathed wire in conduit. THHN is what you'll need.
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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2020, 07:47:49 AM »
if it is in conduit does it still need to be UF or can it be standard Romex?

Not suppose to run sheathed wire in conduit. THHN is what you'll need.

so I need to run 6 individual wires through the conduit.. screw that.. UF direct bury it is.

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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2020, 08:17:09 AM »
pulling wire is fun and easy lol 

im on my 9th 500' spool thoughout my barn lol

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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2020, 09:15:49 AM »


if it is in conduit does it still need to be UF or can it be standard Romex?

Not suppose to run sheathed wire in conduit. THHN is what you'll need.

so I need to run 6 individual wires through the conduit.. screw that.. UF direct bury it is.

pulling wire is fun and easy lol 

It's true! You pull them in together and they slide through WAY easier than solid romex or UF ever would.
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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2020, 09:34:55 AM »
so basically
1.) I run standard Romex from the panel through the rafters(bundled with the rest of the Romex for the barn) down to where I exit the barn,
2.) A junction box where it switches to THHN down through the conduit and out to the pasture
3.) Does THHN continue all the way up the poles at the end to the outlet or does it switch to Romex at some point?

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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2020, 10:08:17 AM »
Hook the conduit right to the panel. THHN all the way.
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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2020, 10:14:53 AM »
I really don't want to run that extra 150' of conduit and/or dig the trench that much further

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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2020, 11:19:31 AM »
I really don't want to run that extra 150' of conduit and/or dig the trench that much further

Have you checked the price difference? It might be a lot cheaper to do it all THHN and conduit

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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2020, 08:31:53 AM »
I really don't want to run that extra 150' of conduit and/or dig the trench that much further

Have you checked the price difference? It might be a lot cheaper to do it all THHN and conduit

quick calc says THHN & full 3/4" conduit will only be about $70 cheaper.. but I say not having to run that much conduit and pulling wire would be worth the extra $70

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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2020, 08:49:29 AM »
1/2" wouldn't work?  much cheaper. 


i like conduit just looks much cleaner and more commercial.  my barn all steel, so no where to staple to though either. 

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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2021, 09:30:02 AM »
ok, digging back into this....

we went ahead and buried direct bury 10/2 from the end of the barn out to the pasture, basically runs from the loft down though the wall down into the ground and out to the pasture.

I am going to be running 10/2 interior Romex from a new 20amp breaker in the panel box to a small junction box to attach to the direct bury in the loft.

Next question.. I just read that 20amp GFI plugs are normally made for 12 or 14 gauge wire.. will I be able to hook it directly to the 10g or do I need to do a 12g "pig tail" for the outlet?

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Re: Electric planning
« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2021, 02:05:21 PM »
10 will fit in the terminal