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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2020, 09:47:03 PM »
Started mock up of body placement to check for tire clearance and get an idea of stance and rake.   From here i can start the layout of the frame.
I plan to have 1" of body channel. And chop the top down (3-4").  I cant go to crazy with the chop because of my height, but I want some to change the eye line and get closer to the golden ratio.




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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2020, 11:26:22 PM »
Frame under way tonight.   2x3x.125 box tube      8.5" Z on the front and 20" Z on the rear.  Rake will be 3-5 degs.








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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2021, 10:02:37 PM »
Start of engine and tranny placement. 2004 LS 6.0 / 4L80E.  This step is critical.  It dictates the body, grill, radiator, and front suspension placement. 
Nothing will hang below the frame.


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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2021, 10:10:25 PM »
Engine and transmission mounts.






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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2021, 10:17:09 PM »
Clearance cut the firewall to test fit the body.  A lot of the transmission and driveshaft tunnel will be in the cab area.
Body placement is not final.  I have a lot of body fab ahead of me.  During that process i will be setting the final rake and making body mounts.
I have acquired a low profile oil pan and intake for the 6.0.


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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2021, 08:57:11 AM »
I love the way it looks...

curious..
how are you going to run exhaust and are you going to section the cab?
I never wanted a red car.. always thought they were tacky and common...
I now have 4 very not common cars and they are all red.. :o

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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2021, 09:09:57 PM »
lake style headers

going to chop the top.  i wont know how much until i see how much head room I have.

I love the way it looks...

curious..
how are you going to run exhaust and are you going to section the cab?

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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2021, 09:37:58 PM »
Getting the front end to look the way I want has been a challenge.  First, everything is exposed and visible, so if its wrong it shows.  Second,  everything has a function, these cars are very minimal and have no places to hide hardware.

Took me three design changes to get the front suspension correct.

I forgot to take pics of the first version. But basically it was with the spring mount on front of the front crossmember.  This is pretty traditional.  Like my Roadster.

 

Version two was with a modified front frame crossmember to follow the lines of the grill.  I did not like this look either and i still felt like the front end was too long.





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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2021, 09:56:41 PM »
Version 3 took a lot of brain cells and time on the mill.   This setup puts the spring under the grill.  Doing this means that the shackle mounts now have to be on the wishbones.  This is called a suicide mount because if something fails there is nothing to catch the frame from hitting the ground!  So to be a safe as possible I milled the mounts out of 1/2" plate and in a shape that captures the whole wishbone and still looks like it belongs on a 1930 car. I plan to add some bracing when I do finish welding.  Doing this shortened the wheelbase 5"







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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2021, 10:28:11 PM »
With the front suspension sorted out its time to move to the rear suspension. 
The plan is again for a triangulated 4 link, this time with hot rod style coilovers.



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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2021, 09:42:57 AM »
looking good.  truck intake/oil pan, and acc mounting style going to work?  they are pretty tall

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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2021, 11:51:35 AM »
I have acquired a low profile oil pan and intake.
Kit to delete PS pump and move ALT.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BELT-PULLEY-Set-for-LS-Power-Steering-Delete-Setup-Alternator-Only/143811633673?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

looking good.  truck intake/oil pan, and acc mounting style going to work?  they are pretty tall
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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2021, 12:12:35 PM »
Kit to delete PS pump and move ALT.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BELT-PULLEY-Set-for-LS-Power-Steering-Delete-Setup-Alternator-Only/143811633673?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

I hope that works for you. I had issues on the Willys with the tensioner not being right after the alternator. The belt would slip/squeal on the alt pulley and flap after. The tensioner just couldn't do its job efficiently enough.

Fail:
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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Coupe
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2021, 10:09:41 PM »
cool stuff.  no power steering needed i guess makes sense nice