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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #480 on: July 20, 2014, 05:23:25 PM »
You either have a leak or air trapped in the caliper.

Make sure the banjo bolt and the copper washers are there as should.

Pics? Remember try not to think too hard, it should be simple.

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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #481 on: July 20, 2014, 05:24:18 PM »
This all on the front. But otherwise, that's correct. Vise grip on both front hoses just before they go into caliper results in a hard, not sinking pedal. Take the vise grips off, pedal slowly sinks until its 3/4 of the way down and is very spongy at that point.

One observation I made was that it seemed like the calipers were "returning" too far. When someone pumps the pedal with the truck running, I can see the piston suck back in more than I am used to seeing. I can take the calipers off just by hand which also seems unusual to me.

I was wondering if maybe there is a certain point in the master's travel that it would not hold pressure, but would still hold pressure at the beginning of its travel. But a bad master would not hold fluid under any circumstance I would think.

I will give the c clamp all the way down trick a shot. Good thinking.

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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #482 on: July 20, 2014, 05:31:35 PM »
No change pumping w c clamp bottoming out caliper.

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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #483 on: July 20, 2014, 06:07:09 PM »
So a clamped and bottomed – out caliper was still soft?

Have you tested this one caliper at a time? Or only both or neither?

Maybe you did get the part number with the belt – in air pocket…


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« Reply #484 on: July 20, 2014, 06:35:04 PM »
Right. It is getting really weird.

I have not tried excluding one caliper from the other.
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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #485 on: July 20, 2014, 06:46:38 PM »
With that behavior it really sounds like you should be seeing an external fluid leak… Without that, I really can't think of anything. Frustration sympathized!


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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #486 on: July 20, 2014, 06:49:11 PM »
I exhausted my troubleshooting ability by the end of Friday. I've exhausted all the other knowledge resources I have today. Ready to give up and take it to a shop... but I need it back by Thursday and don't know anyone reputable in the area.

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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #487 on: July 20, 2014, 06:55:13 PM »
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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #488 on: July 20, 2014, 07:24:42 PM »
Have you tried driving it around and see if it fixes itself :) are there two new calipers?

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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #489 on: July 20, 2014, 07:26:49 PM »
Yes, drove it a lot last week. Both calipers are new.

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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #490 on: July 20, 2014, 07:51:31 PM »
Fire.


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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #491 on: July 20, 2014, 08:10:17 PM »
My last ditch would be to let the piston all the way out, and then push it back in with bleeder cracked or better yet with suction attached while bleeder is absolutely topmost, after and while tapping on it. :Shrug:

I have no clue what could possibly be wrong with a caliper for it to do that without an external leak.


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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #492 on: July 20, 2014, 08:11:27 PM »
I think I'm going to go against my gut and try a new (not reman) master.

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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #493 on: July 20, 2014, 08:12:41 PM »
One of my last tests was square tube between the pads to observe and was getting consistent slow sinking at the pedal.

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Re: TurnedUp
« Reply #494 on: July 20, 2014, 10:43:35 PM »
Sinking pedal = master cylinder

When I was in school, the professor said he always went with NEW as there's too many defective remans.

Stay with OEM if you want when buy new one. It lasted this long so can't really go wrong with another OEM.