M4wd&Fabrications
Projects place => Projects Section => Topic started by: KingtheZJ on March 16, 2013, 07:40:24 PM
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This hog is sweet. But is not pleased about the cold and is currently getting double teamed.
This was the result of too much cranking with a stuck shut off solenoid. After a quick phone call to a friend, I swiftly facepalmed, flipped it up and it fired right up. Needed to do this the next couple starts as well, has been fine since.
Changed the oil, put on a new cone filter since the one on it was fucked and not really sealed. Not totally thrilled about using a cone filter or that the old wasn't sealed well, but oh well. $25 and it has a good air filter.
The tailgate is fubar'd and is ratchet strapped closed. Wheel well rust on the bed and big dent, 2lb body work and weld in patches will be the fix. Floors need attention but are not bad in most places. Hopefully get to that this summer before it gets worse. Rockers/cab corners really aren't bad. Plow is a mutt, maybe worth a couple hundred. Uniroyals on the bling wheels are 265 (32") and good tread. Gonna swap them to the stock wheels and sell the bling. Needs hard brake lines and at least one soft line to the caliper. Will need exhaust. 4.10s have me doing about 2300 at 70, didn't seem so bad once I set the cruise control. Hahaha
Overall, it runs great and doesn't need anything major to be a truck I'll be happy with for a long time.
I'm in love ;D
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Steering is a little loose, not as bad is it may have been described to me! Suspecting trackbar. Also came with a 2" binder full of dealer maintenance records (including a new $50 Ram hood ornament.)
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TurnedUp
Turnip?
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I'm not quite up on my pop cartoon culture, WTF is that??
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Turnip
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This hog just passed emissions, and apparently by a huge margin!
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I don't believe it (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/19/e2epygut.jpg)
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That shit stanks. All up in my grill (literally)
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Plates done, officially legal.
Regarding oil dribbling out the dipstick tube:
probably need a vacuum pump seal change! the sweet kit on ebay to do it twice is 65$
Can someone explain this to a diesel noob? From what I've gathered, vacuum pump's outlet is into the crankcase. If the vacuum system is tight, there should be no flow. If there is a leak, it pulls air from the leak and pressurizes the crankcase?
What seals are you talking about Smike? I was thinking a vacuum leak somewhere would cause this, I don't know much about the pump. There is a large line that goes from the brake booster to what I'm assuming is the vacuum pump (right under the injection pump). No apparent leaks there, but did not thoroughly inspect the rest of the system.
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sorry, the most common oil leak on those motors that you will chase around and spray oil every where is the vacuum pump shaft.
I believe that truck is the same as mikes 97 and my 01. diesel trucks dont have vacuum so to run hvac and cruse and such they stuck a vacuum pump between the gear case and the power steering pump. well this 1100$ unit gets a grove wore into the shaft and leaks. mine was so bad id have a puddle the size of a basket ball under a 10 minute idle when fueling while towing.
guy on ebay sells some PVC tools to press in a new seal that is a double lip seal that strattles the single lip OE seal grove so you dont have to replace the whole pump! it was 65$ and he sends you the parts to do the job twice since its really 6$ in PVC and a 2$ seal.
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correction, whatever the shaft is called that drives the PS pump through the vacuum pump.
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smike nailed in on the oil leak - the pump can leak to atmosphere too though - I don't know if that's the same seals. in that case it can overpressurize the crank case and give you the same symptoms as blowby.
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Interesting. My friend degreased the motor and it stayed clean up top with the dipstick plug in place, still nasty on the bottom. Assumed it was power steering as the level was low and appeared to be coming from that area. I was going to degrease again and try to pinpoint the source. I'm feeling more confident that it's most likely this vacuum seal.
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First off don't even bother trying to fix ever leak on these things. It is probably power steering and mine leaks up at the firewall then drips on the steering shaft and runs down the shaft to about under the power steering pump so check everywhere. I just keep a couple quarts of fluid and add it when I need to because I am lazy
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Haha there is no way I'm trying to fix everything. I still plan to hose it down to figure out where it's coming from exactly.
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my leak would have ended the motor in hundreds of miles. i would only notice when towing, and i have a gravel driveway so it doesnt matter at home.
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stupid useless aside from grossing 50k 4.10s.
As I've been driving this around, I can't understand how anyone thought this was a good idea
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In fact, I almost suspect it would feel nuttier if it had 3.55s. Right now, it seems like it has no power until I get into 4th gear and lug it down, then the torque makes it pickup pretty good.
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Put 10-15k lbs behind it and then try to get it moving going uphill then come back to why they put 410 in them. When my truck is empty I can take off in 3rd then shift to 5th and 6th no problem.
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I'm mildly concerned about that. I'll let you know, hopefully sometime soon.
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I'm mildly concerned about that. I'll let you know, hopefully sometime soon.
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about how getting some real weight moving with super shallow gears is going to be; Incomplete has 3.42s and I'm used to 4.10s. I did some math and the ratios worked out to something like starting in 2nd and skip shifting 2/4/5o in 1-2-3. it seemed like it was going to be okay, but let's face facts: I can't shift the damn thing to save myself just yet. Stupid synchros and clutch pedal and stuff.
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This hog is 100% de-plowed and de-blinged. Looks much better. Dipstick in and top of engine is staying clean!
Got to check out the front end when we changed the wheels. Spent my Sunday replacing 4 ball joints, 2 u joints, trackbar and pitman TRE. Much better now.
My local diesel tech support (diesel tech friend) came over to help and took it for a spin. He was pleased with how it ran, but was concerned about the coal rolling ability. We found that the fuel plate was removed and boost line missing. I also had him check out the play in the turbo... he advised me not to drive it until I replaced it, about 1/4" of play in/out. Fortunately, he has a good, low mileage one... and just acquired a Dodge 2500 gasser and is interested in my plow so we're gonna make a deal. In any event, his reccomendations on top of the turbo were:
Reconnect boost line to fuel pump
#10 fuel plate
Gauges before towing anything since what has been done to the motor is not 100% known
Fuel plates are apparently retardedly expensive, $75 on Ebay for the cheapest one I can find. If I had the stocker, I'd grind it down but it's MIA. Mike, you don't have one laying around do you?
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if you can do 4 ball joints on a cummins truck in one working day you are a certified yard mechanic. that work is no joke! lol
good things to catch before big booms. sounds like it will be a good truck with some dollars and time. I bet chadly has a couple plates laying around.
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My friend and I tag teamed the ball joints and u joints on the bench with an impact and ball joint press, but I busted my ass alllll day. Getting the old stuff out was a bitch! We used his NAPA discount through work for the parts (Sorry Arie) and I figured I would just do it all while I was standing there getting good prices.
Also needs all brake hard lines and then I will feel OK about putting a load behind this thing.
I better get on top of this veg thing soon... this truck is turning into an investment! From what I could tell though, spending $5k on a truck wasn't going to get me anything much better, so dumping $700 into a $4300 truck is stomachable I suppose, especially to have the peace of mind.
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No fuel plate is fine, get the AFC functional and you'll be happy. Regulate lower fuel with your foot, not an issue in a manual trans truck. Lack of a fuel plate will not fuck the pump up regardless of what the Internet says.
Good catch on the turbo, blowing that would suck big time.
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one ton ball joints are no joke- took me two days in the gravel lol
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No fuel plate is fine, get the AFC functional and you'll be happy. Regulate lower fuel with your foot, not an issue in a manual trans truck. Lack of a fuel plate will not fuck the pump up regardless of what the Internet says.
Good catch on the turbo, blowing that would suck big time.
AFC does not need fuel plate to perform it's duty? I've been sticking to what I hear from experienced diesel people such as yourselves much more than the internet anyway!
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fuel plate is a max limit that's set in stone. It doesn't move and is there to stop the arm from moving forward past a certain point at a certain RPM and that's it.
the AFC is dynamic based on boost level. More air makes that move forward. set it too conservatively and you'll never build boost. gut it or set it too far forward and you'll smoke the shit out of the world and your right foot is all that's between you and melted puddles of aluminum that used to be your pistons.
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sounds like one of those is a good idea then lol
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Boost/pyro gauges ordered, should be here mid week
Picking up turbo tomorrow
Hopefully picking up fuel plate tomorrow
Need to get plumbing bits to reconnect AFC
Main vacuum line is sorta collapsed, need a section of that
Spool of 3/16" brake line and 3/8" fittings
My big block doesn't owe me anything, but this thing is an absolute pleasure to work on compared to that. Love it!
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Make sure your AFC isn't gutted. if it's not connected to boost and your truck isn't a complete retarded lump of a slob, you probably have no fuel control other than your right foot.
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AFC covers the fuel plate, correct? Shares two bolts with the shut off solenoid? If so, we checked that and everything appeared to be there.
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the armeture off the bottom of it that sticks down past the fuel plate is present? it may be gutted on top and pushed full forward...
if it's present + functional and not seeing boost, you'd get about 20% of fuel at most.
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I do not remember seeing an arm that would have been sticking down past where the fuel plate goes. Add that to the list of stock parts I need to hunt down.
Balls, finding these little pump parts is not fun
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In the meantime, gauges will tell me if I'm on the way to turning my pistons into aluminum puddles, no? Keep an eye on boost, pyro and what's coming out of the tailpipe and I'll be OK?
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Thanks Mike, I'm learning a lot.
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sounds fun.
i was thinking about a 12valve just because of the amount of oil i throw out from the shop. i bet i could commute all year on waste oil :)
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sounds fun.
I'm sure Mike is sick of messing with these things, and I probably will be one day myself. But I am fascinated by how simple it all is! 8)
It hurts my brain to try to think of all the shit going on under the hood of my Suburban hahahaha
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id rather be sick of messing with things on free time, that frustrated at throwing 900$ or 1400$ bits at it with dealer monkey rates...
After Mike and i diagnosed my ECM to be bad and then convinced ourselves that couldntbe the case- when 30Days later at a dealer and 2ECMs later it was,
we have the technology,
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frustrated at throwing 900$ or 1400$ bits at it
I saw a couple sweet deals on 24v's... just couldn't do it. Hahaha
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In the meantime, gauges will tell me if I'm on the way to turning my pistons into aluminum puddles, no? Keep an eye on boost, pyro and what's coming out of the tailpipe and I'll be OK?
yup
keep EGTs in check and you'll be fine. It may not be worth the time and effort to put that back to stock. Check Competition Diesel for someone who may be selling a complete AFC?
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New turbo is in place minus exhaust. Broke v-band clamp, $30 from Napa. :'(
Gauges came too. Gonna get those on tonight and hopefully take it for a spin and see how close I've been coming to puddling my pistons.
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If you haven't been blacking out every intersection all the time you're probably fine. Clear exhaust is almost universally safe.
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Turbo on, it came from an auto though so it's a little smaller. Not complaining really, price was tough to beat for a known-good one. I may look into going back to stock or maybe a little larger once the dust has settled.
Gauges also on. No boost reading, I suspect I kinked the plastic line somewhere. I know I kinked it a couple times when I was fishing it around where it needed to go, hopefully straightening it back out is a sufficient fix. Pyro works and never went above 800 F on the test drive, and that was juicing it up a hill around 50mph in 5th.
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800 seems way low for black smoke in it
is the probe before or after the turbo?
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Manifold, right before the turbo. Unless you are intentionally lugging it with your foot on the floor, it does not blow smoke other than for a couple seconds when you first get on it.
Also, took the AFC off to get to the port in the manifold easier. Looks like everything is there, but the leg has been ground off. You were right, Mike.
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800 seems way low for something getting out of its own way.
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Hmm. I will pay more attention when I'm driving home today...
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Moving my excavator around I usually hover around 700-900 degrees 900 will be pulling a decent hill at almost full throttle. The only place I have ever seen 1000 degrees is heading north on 15 climbing the hill before turkey ranch
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Mine is after turbo
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pushing 1000 post-turbo is a very reasonable temp. that'd be 1200-1300 preturbo, and we know you don't have a stock exhaust housing on yours so it'll be moving more through and staying cooler.
a stock HX35 on a truck with no fueling control shouldn't run that cool. maybe 4.10s and no load don't let it work or build heat? assuming it's 4.10s.
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Definitely 4.10s. And I'm not sure what I have now, but this turbo is definitely a little smaller and I believe I should have had an HX35 before from the factory. I will say that it pretty much never bogs down at all, this is all unloaded of course. Even in 5th, when you lay into it the RPMs come up pretty fast. 3.55s or bigger tires might be a different story?
Mike, is DB 100% part-out status at this point? I'm on a shoestring budget until after Big Dogs, but I would be interested in your transfer tank and turbo if it is in good shape and larger than what I have now...
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It looks that way.
I made out a potential price list this morning, it probably needs some reality checking and adjustment but at least it's a starting point.
I think I put down 500 for turbo w the banks brake, and 200 for the xfer tank.
I think I paid 150 for the tank plus whatever into the install stuff, I don't remember on the brake.
I may or may not still have the exhaust exit housing that the banks brake replaces but you would have that of your bad hx35
I need to check and measure endplay on that for selling purposes eventually.
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Good to know mike, thanks. Idk when I'm gonna have spare cash to be honest, but I will try! Really want the transfer tank at least.
Got the boost gauge re-plumbed with 1/4" fuel hose. I read a lot of blah blah about hose expanding and not using it for boost gauges but I just don't see that thick of a wall swelling from 30-40lbs. In any event, that was the problem. Normal driving I'm maxing out at 25lbs, and I can hit 35 if I really try. The wastegate is welded shut on that turbo, might have forgotten to mention that.
Mike, aside from a 3k governor spring, what else have you done? It would appear that with removing all the idiot proofing (fuel plate, AFC, waste gate) its still pretty hard to get into a bad situation with an otherwise stock pump and turbo?
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are you a 215 pump or smaller?
probably stock sticks and DVs? (injectors and delivery valves)
my pump has stock DVs and a 4k GSK. on the original 12v and stock cam and stock sticks I could still hit 1200+ easily, but probably not while empty
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You really have to put some weight on the truck to work the motor enough to get a feel for what type of temps you will see.
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Good to know mike, thanks. Idk when I'm gonna have spare cash to be honest, but I will try! Really want the transfer tank at least.
I think I have a local guy buying the brake. I'm asking 300 for the turbo and 200 for the tank, if you want to commit just throw me a couple bucks and I'll hold 'em.
and just make me a fair offer, those are "other people prices"
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Mike, at this point I am feeling very non-commital even on the tank. Don't hold it for me, thanks though.
I am realizing that veg might not be a good option as a renter. No good place to store overflow and after visiting a local veg refiner's garage and having the smell in my nose for a long time after, I can see the living space above our garage smelling like that. Going to shoot for filtering and blending waste motor oil instead to just offset fuel costs. Throw 2-3 5 gallon buckets in before leaving and carry 2-3 with me to dump in for the trip back. No real need to carry 100 gallons around with me. Less smelly processing and collecting/using at my own pace.
On a side note, please feel free to save any waste MOTOR oil (gear oil is too heavy and ATF has some pretty nasty shit to be burning from what I'm reading) and bring it to Big Dogs and other wheeling events this summer. ;D
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My current supply is a hodge-podge of all of the above...
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gear oil can be thinned out with gasoline. ATF is fine.
long thread
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/tow-rigs-trailers/815276-oil-diesel.html
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My current supply is a hodge-podge of all of the above...
Hmm... largely motor oil, and most importantly NO water?
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my buckets are also a hodge-podge, and need both filtering and water separation
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gear oil can be thinned out with gasoline. ATF is fine.
long thread
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/tow-rigs-trailers/815276-oil-diesel.html
Adding gas seems annoying and counterproductive to cost saving efforts. I'm hoping in smaller concentrations gear oil will be OK. Plan to stick to this in the warmer months anyway.
Fuck it, I'll take whatever you have. If I decide not to use it, the dump 5 minutes from my house has a waste oil and coolant receptacle I can dispose of it in.
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my buckets are also a hodge-podge, and need both filtering and water separation
Really trying to avoid having to separate water unless I can feel condifent about gravity being OK at doing that.
Plan is to follow Nick's setup with the sock filters, probably 10, 5, 1 micron filters on top of each other (to avoid immediately clogging the 1 micron filters) into a 55 gallon drum. Two spouts on the drum, one at the very bottom for sludge drainage to go to dump receptacle and one 8" or so up from the bottom for good oil collecting.
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i have been trying to take care of storing clean oil for you guys. i have a ton of "needs filtering and water separation" under my deck- probably 60 gallons. but i have about 15 gallons at the shop that is clean. i also have about 10 galls a month that gets dumped from the lift drain.
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Water/antifreeze and chunks. No good for you.
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I have a good friend whose family owns 2 popular restaurant chains in WNY...
I can inquire about their grease removal... but I assume it would need to be a semi prof operation.. not just a guy with a bucket and hose..
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I have a good friend whose family owns 2 popular restaurant chains in WNY...
I can inquire about their grease removal... but I assume it would need to be a semi prof operation.. not just a guy with a bucket and hose..
Right, and that is a lot of the reason I am steering away from veg right now. I know I would need to make regularly scheduled pick ups regardless of how much I needed. I have no place to put overflow, and used motor oil is easier to procure/use at my own pace.
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What a candy ass!!
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Steel brake lines and frayed passenger caliper hose done. Fuel lines had been replaced with poly and spliced into the steel lines on the last couple inches, did not look good. Replaced them. Oil leak is down to a 2" puddle overnight.
I'm going to drive it around all weekend. Barring any issues, I'm calling it Big Dogs ready.
Bed is probably not worth salvaging - rot over both wheel wells and starting on underside. Also huge dent/tear on passenger side rear and tailgate is F'd. Works for now, but will be keeping my eye out for a complete, color matched one in good shape.
Rocker panel seams are getting crusty. I will inspect further, but the "hit it with your fist" test did not indicate the panels were too bad inside. Considering patching the the seam in a couple spots and doing bedliner, maybe gray (not a huge fan of the black/white look I've seen like that on these.) Floors need to be patched from the frame out on both sides, otherwise OK.
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I have a passable tailgate for you. latch needs help on one side and it's a little bent but it's highly servicable.
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I have a passable tailgate for you. latch needs help on one side and it's a little bent but it's highly servicable.
Sweet, how much? Even if I go with another bed, not have to ratchet strap the tailgate closed would be really nice. Thanks.
Drove all weekend, no issues. Steering still feels a little loose, checked it and the new trackbar bushing seems to squish maybe 1/4" back and forth, but that was the only visible play. Meh.
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1/4"? lol thats death wobbel territory
time to drill out the hole or weld in washers to the mount?
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Or maybe just needs a fresh bushing to replace oil soaked rubber sloppiness. But that's way way too much.
Fitty bucks?
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i read track bar was new, assumed bolt or hole egged
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Trackbar IS new. Bolt isn't moving in hole, bushing is squishing
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Also need to source a 2-1/2" ball mount for this guy
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2 1/2" drop you mean?
Ball sizes are 1-7/8, 2, 2-5/16.
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Oh, I bet you mean class V hitch/ draw bar. gotcha
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I assume he is meaning 2 1/2" big boy class 5 receiver size.
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Yes, 2-1/2" reciever. Took a little searching but Napa has 3" and 5" drop in stock for $45. Etrailer was showing like $70 so that was a relief
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$77 at Napa and hitch mount, ball, hitch pin procured.
7 prong plug is about to fall off, wires in BAD shape. Also, brake controller does not show any signs of life. Hoping it's the little circuit breaker thingy screwed to the fender.
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New plug and all is well. Ready!!!!!!!
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Did about 3hrs round trip towing my Jeep today. Pretty sweet to set cruise at 70 and just... cruise. I let it eat on a couple mild interstate grades, boost spiked to 30 a couple times, EGT never got over 900*F. I think it could use an injector service, my friend here suspected that could be causing the slight roughness at idle. Not too noticeable other than hearing it through the exhaust.
Question: what towing practices will help prolong 5th gear life? I was making a point of not going from 4th to 5th until about 45mph.
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Stay over 1,800 at absolute min in 5th. Pref over 2k
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do not grenade shift to 5th haha
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Pow pa pow pow
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It stopped backfiring actually. Did not lose the "running on 5" feeling though. Fuel pressure stayed constant the entire trip, around 55psi.
Lose batter connection made it not want to start again after unloading jeep in my driveway.
Fuel pressure shrader valve did not seal when I took the gauge off after it was started, sprayed fuel everywhere.
Pressing in the clutch pedal gives this awesome squealing noise now.
Not really in the mood to even look at this thing right now
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sounds like throwout bearing. drop tranny :*(
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new clutch and bearing, trans fluid change while your at it.
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Clutch/bearing reccomendations? This truck supposeddly has a Southbend clutch, do I need to go aftermarket like that or will something quality and stock from Arie be OK? I have never done a clutch before.
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if it has a southbend, they'll probably rebuild it for reasonable money. A local clutch guy probably can too. is this your DD?
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i am pleased with the OE luke? i got from Arie
i didnt regrind the flywheel, just put it in.
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This is not DD, nor is my Jeep. This is also not something I plan to be making mounds of power with. I'd like to be able to do 70 up hills with ease, aside from that I want as good economy as possible. In other words, I wonder if a good stock clutch would be fine for that kind of power.
Are you talking about them just rebuilding the bearing, leaving the clutch?
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the bearings (actually probably throwout bearing and crank bushing) are just an R&R. If you're going to take it out, I'd probably do the clutch if it's anywhere less than 50% just to avoid doing it again right away.
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Back to the bigger issue.
http://worcester.craigslist.org/pts/3732240436.html
Guy says these have 50k on them. Worth a shot?
I don't remember doing the injector line loosening diagnosis again on Saturday night. I will do that again tonight and pay close attention to the #1 cylinder. Would 4* or so retarded timing cause such a consistent vibration? Or would it just be kinda doggy? Seems like one cylinder down would be really consistent like I'm feeling that varies with engine speed. But, it also seems to me that it would still be willing to blow lots of black smoke if just on injector down.
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Fso-6406a and almost all your problems will be solved! :)
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Throwout bearing goes and it's time to swap in a dumptruck transmission for towing 7k???? Come on hahaha
Remembering my locker ordeal lesson and questioning if used injectors are worth it...
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http://www.dcpcart.com/OScart/product_info.php/cPath/23_90_136/products_id/178
Confirmed with them on the phone that the injectors are the same for 5spd/auto, pump is different. $12.50 for shipping. Not worth the risk going used for that price.
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under 200 for a set seems too cheap.
DAP is who I've gone through and trust, twice the price, $300 and up. http://www.dieselautopower.com/category_s/419.htm
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i would also confirm on the phone do they rebuild, or just test cores and re sell if in spec. a lot of injector companies do that- very common.
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http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111553
Mike, when Chad loosened the #1 delivery valve line, didn't you ask why it was spinning with it? Is this an issue that you guys would have spotted when loosening that DV or when Chad took it out for the timing?
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Wouldn't see that without pulling the valves.
we didn't crack lines again after failing at timing, could easily be a DV or holder issue especially if it's specific to one hole.
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/30/zamevude.jpg)
#1 injector. Switching it w #2 to see if the problem follows.
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/30/e7ahuhed.jpg)
#2 injector
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Injectors #1 and #2 swapped and worse. #1 was the original problem cylinder that made no difference in cracking open before I started today. Now, cracking either one makes no difference and it definitely runs worse than before.
When #1 is cracked, fuel dribbles out. When #2 is cracked, fuel comes spraying out pulsating.
My logic tells me that a fuel delivery issue somewhere on the #1 delivery system damaged the #1 injector (from running too hot or something?)
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Sounds like the cleaning of #1 didn't fix that, and something with #1 on the pump side as well. I'd pull delivery valves and swap em. Look for broken or stuck parts - esp as in that thread you posted yesterday.
Tapatalking in traffic
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Will try cracking the line at the pump. If nothing there either, I will pull the DV's.
I can swap them back and forth? Read some thing about not swapping them as they were toleranced with the pump? Seems weird, forgive my ignorance.
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I know it's a common upgrade to swap DVs for larger ones, so it can't be that critical? Chad's a believer in full cut valves, and I can see that. I really don't understand the point of them. I would like to know more, but haven't researched them.
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http://www.bostechfuel.com/injectors.php?id=DE891
http://www.fuelinjectorwhse.com/injectors.php?id=DE891
$300 shipped after core charge.
One other things: am I damaging anything by running it with the bad throwout bearing? I read something about scoring the transmission shaft or something? I'd like to get it running right before I tackle that.
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throwout doesn't spin unless the clutch is in.
you could score the shaft with a bad pilot bushing/bearing
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Well, it still squeaks a tiny bit even when the clutch isn't in.
I need to research basic clutch assembly drawings so I can understand this I guess haha
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thrust bearing the slides on trans input
when you push in, the bearing pushes agains the fingers on the clutch to release the spring force on the plate(s)
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Gambled and spent $60 on the 50k mile injectors. Runs 95% better. Delivery valve on #1 is leaking a decent stream of fuel so I'm guessing that cylinder is just a little down in pressure. Pulled it off and the o ring is chewed up.
Test drive was night and day better than Sunday.
Drinking a beer now.
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nice\
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Those o-rings suck, almost never go through a removal. about $1.50 from Cummins IIRC. I'm thinking I should have a spare or two but I haven't seen them in months, no clue where they are.
Great news on the injectors. great great.
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Very relieved!!! Wish we could have found someone down south selling some $60 injectors and spent 2hrs putting them in instead of countless hours diagnosing weird things and smogging everyone at the campfire out
Also, I can now stand next to the tailpipe without my eyes burning. Pretty sweet!!!!!! 8)
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Hell, that's a double-win!
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Cummins parts guy is going to call me back. I'm hoping he can get me a DV socket too, my #1 has been hockjob'd on and off close to too many times now
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http://longisland.craigslist.org/pts/3738167786.html
Ugly, but would be so sweet for camping
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Beats a tent any day! Door would be especially sweet!
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Do it
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check that gen1 and gen2 bed size are same, i dont know if they are
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Id have me one of those pop up truck campers if my truck could handle it
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old guy height!
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http://www.bostechfuel.com/injectors.php?id=DE891
http://www.fuelinjectorwhse.com/injectors.php?id=DE891
$300 shipped after core charge.
One other things: am I damaging anything by running it with the bad throwout bearing? I read something about scoring the transmission shaft or something? I'd like to get it running right before I tackle that.
What company you end up going to? Or are they the same? I am still diagnosing my problem. Compression test today or tomorrow.
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I found some low mileage injectors local on Craigslist for $60 and scooped them up. FWIW I think I'd order from them if/when I get some new ones in it.
What is your truck doing? Mine was hazing badly at idle, running really rough (like running on 5 cylinders all the time rough) and even backfiring out the tailpipe. I haven't really had it out to romp on it a lot since I still need to change the delivery valve o-ring and throw out bearing, but the quick test drive I took it on was much better. Maybe the best it's been in the couple months I've owned it.
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why not new or reman? we stock
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Bostech is reman, I would definitely be interested in prices at some point. Can you get higher HP than stock? I was thinking some 75hp ones...
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My truck is barely running. Like on 4 cylinders. Hazing at idle is an understatement. Wierd thing is it still fires right up. I know it is #5 and #6. Swapped injectors and problem still with number #5 and 6. Had the injectors pop tested and pop pressure down but not stuck open spec is 3600 psi mine were at 3000 psi Going to do a compression check tonight to rule out motor internals.
From there, get a new reman'd pump and injectors with the decision being p7100 or stick with a ve. Currenly is a ve but have everything to do a p pump conversion. I was told the p pump is working but would like the piece of mind that it is perfect.
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Are you getting a pulsating fuel spray when you crack the injector lines?
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Yeah but no difference in rpm for cyl 5 & 6. Compression test read a big fat 0 psi. I have to double check my homemade compression checker on a good cylinder to see what that is and make sure it works.
I think I may disable the rockers and do a leak down test and see if and where the air comes out. Out exhaust or intake, valve issue out breather, piston issue.
then go from there. Hopefully know more this weekend. Time is a ticking
What sucks is I had a camping trip planned for Memorial Day, only 30 minute drive but kids will hate me if the truck isn't back up and running.
Anyone want to deliver a 5th wheel for me? lol I got an adapter that fits a b&w......
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Wow Matt, sounds rough. Sounds like you're on a good path to pinpointing the problem though. How many miles on that thing?
Got my $25 DV tool yesterday and swung by the local diesel pump shop and got some o-rings. Threw one in the #1 DV and no fuel leaks. Sweet.
It still has just a slight roughness, you have to really pay attention. More noticeable through the tailpipe. Still on #1 cylinder when cracking the lines for change in sound.
When I crack the lines, I get bubbles for the first couple turns that eventually turn into the pretty forceful pulsating spray. Normal or maybe air in lines?
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You should never get any bubbles when cracking lines. All air should purge after a hard acceleration, even no-load. I don't know how to do a more thorough air leak check than we already did though :-/
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Due to the fact that it is perilously close to running out of fuel and needing a throwout bearing, I have not given it any kind of hard acceleration. It runs pretty damn well and doesn't leak fuel, so I will look at that after it's back up and running if it's still an issue.
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Even free revving. But that still seems reasonable.
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Bubbling seems gone, so does throw out bearing squeal. Thinking I'll replace anyway to avoid trouble down the road.
Boost won't hit 20psi and egt's easily hit 1100 empty now. Suspecting a boost leak as 35psi used to be easy and 900 used to be difficult.
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Runs pretty smooth now though!
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Boost leak sounds likely, since AFC wasn't touched. Make sure your air filer isn't plugged up too. Good news all around.
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Chad said I was being too much of an engineer by replacing the throw out bearing if it wasn't making noise just to avoid risk of having it fail far from home.
In that event, he suggested starting moving in 4low on the starter motor, slamming into hi once running, and shifting without the clutch till I got home.
On a side note, $25/qt!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the GOTTA HAVE NV4500 fluid at the dealer. I need a gallon
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my truck will launch off the starter in 1st high no problem. almost hit the house once in the winter lol
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Wonder 1.0 shifted through 1, 2, 3 on the starter once to get it back from the shop lot to my driveway once with a dead CPS and no fire
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Mike are you serious? How fast were you going in 3rd on thr frickin starter??? Hahahaha
Chad gave me the number of a guy wanting to unload a rust free white long bed, $450. Roommate is going to be out that way this weekend with his Burb anyway, hopefully he can just bring his trailer with him too.
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no kidding with wonder 1.0 performance.
i was just going to roll in 1st, but i was topped out so i shifted to 2nd, and 3rd lol was crusing like 10-12 mPH id say by the time i got across the street
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One ball bearing and a shred of steel fell out when I separated the transmission. Guessing the rest had vacated already haha
Also, Southbend was a myth. Luk stamped all over it, probably less than 50%. Good decision to get the kit.
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Haven't seen this thing in the daylight yet, but it looks really clean. One spot with a small scrap with surface rust. NBD. Definitely happy.
No tailgate though, Mike I'll be home in two weeks and grab yours if I can!!!
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Good call on the clutch and not waiting on the throw out bearing.
Sweet bed looks sweet
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That bearing had another 100k in it. Put it back in! ;D
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Sounds good!
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5th looks unfixed.
Options? Chad says thorough cleaning and red Loctite. I'd feel better about welding.
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no broken bits and splines look good? tig that F'er all the way around you be replacing the input shaft next like nick so you can cut it off later hahaha
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Shaft temper?
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full weld seems like a bad idea for several reasons - heat & normalizing being #1.
this doesn't seem like a terrible idea, I've never seen it before.
www.ebay.com/itm/NV4500-DODGE-5TH-GEAR-LOCK-NUT-RETAINER-UPDATED-/180851331740
I fully buy into Quad 4x4's full explanation and solution.
http://www.quad4x4.com/NV4500%205th%20Gear%20Failures%20and%20Solutions.htm
I don't see the parts in their online catalog though.
For your use, a really good cleaning, heavy heavy dose of red locktite, and a couple solid tacks
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Not having the 5th gear tool, I was hoping to get away with a couple hearty tacks...
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Especially since it's $71!
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3 hearty tig tacks is my vote.
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full weld seems like a bad idea for several reasons - heat & normalizing being #1.
this doesn't seem like a terrible idea, I've never seen it before.
www.ebay.com/itm/NV4500-DODGE-5TH-GEAR-LOCK-NUT-RETAINER-UPDATED-/180851331740
I fully buy into Quad 4x4's full explanation and solution.
http://www.quad4x4.com/NV4500%205th%20Gear%20Failures%20and%20Solutions.htm
I don't see the parts in their online catalog though.
For your use, a really good cleaning, heavy heavy dose of red locktite, and a couple solid tacks
I like the retainer idea. Too bad they don't offer one for 2wd.
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What about a 2nd nut as a jam nut? Then weld the two nuts together? No heat applied to shaft and hopefully cheaper than a $185 retainer dooda?
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Home stretch now!
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you guys and your fancy trans jacks lol
i changed my clutch and pulled my NV5600 in a gravel driveway with a cherry picker through the passenger door haha
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cherry picker through the passenger door haha
This was considered as an option, especially since the trans had to get loaded on the jack undet the truck (top of bellhousing rubs frame rail as it slides under haha) but the passenger door is against the wall, no room on driver's side with the steering column.
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I've done both (too many times!). easier to get it out when it's on a rolling thing underneath but easier to work underneath with the spread feet...
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When I was under there pushing on the back I said to Reid: "How the fawk did Mike do this with a 13 speed???"
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....trunks.
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....trunks.
Must be why Nick and his twigs only went 6spd.
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Dasss righhhh!
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hahaha!
wiggle wiggle wiggle!
and a pair of long "starter" bolts to help align.
"easy"
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Got this hog running Friday. No clutch issues at all! That's a relief. Amsoil MTG ran me under $55 for 5 quarts.
Drove it all weekend, was having a hard time hitting 15psi of boost. Pulled the intake horn off and resealed the gasket with the separated corner (need to just buy new.) Removed, cleaned, reinstalled tubes and elbows and I'm back to hitting 35psi at WOT like before.
Not getting any black smoke though, all grey unless I just stupid lug it at low speeds. No oil in intake on either side of the turbo. Timing still a possibility?
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using oil?
Mat's issue turned out to be a head gasket. You have access to a compression tester?
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It does not appear to be using any oil.
Coolant is on the low mark, but I'm pretty sure that's where it's always been. I will top it off and keep an eye on that too.
I do not have a compression tester, but I could probably get one.
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You'd need to buy/ beg/ steal/ make an adaptor to go through to injector hole too.
Easy to either back off all pushrod slam adjusters to disable to valves to spin and check numbers AND leakdown too
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It's very driveable at the moment, not noticeable other than at idle. I think for now I am going to just top off the coolant and watch both oil and coolant levels closely.
We have buckets of WMO piling up around here so I finally ordered some sock filters. I'm going to progressviely filter 75 -> 25 -> 10 -> 1 micron. All but the 1 micron filters I got are washable. Going to start with a bucket or two on a fill up and see how it does. 10 gallons on a fill up would be a 28% mix, trying to decide if that would be too much to start with or not.
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Sounds like a good plan to me.
My oil should be going to use soon too. New guy not yet in the club (deaf RIT student from IL with a sas Sonoma) runs WMO in his cummins. He has a PA Biodiesel centrifuge.
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Got 10 gallons in a full tank (just under 30%) on this hog, seems to love it so far. Has an "old lawnmower" scent around the exhaust pipe, but not bad at all. Smoke is about the same. Won't hesitate to go 50% or more next time.
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nice!
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looks pretty high tech filtration system you got there haha
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the 1um spin on filters i use at work are the shat- rated for all fuels and biodiesel
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do they have a bypass? pressure rating? thinking that would be a nice filter to pump through as a last step.
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I ended up doubling up the 1um for peace of mind. Pry overkill. I dumped a thicker batch in and it's slowed down quite a bit. I'm going to clean out the 10, 25, 75 filters and see how much more I can get out of these. I've about broken even on the filters at this point.
Next plan is to get a 55gal drum setup with two 32" long filters dangling in them like Nick and Chad have. I'm going to add two spouts on it: one 12" up or so to drain fuel from and one at the very bottom to drain water/shat and take to the dump. Also plan to add a sight glass from bottom to top, hoping that will give me an idea of how much shat is at the bottom, and when draining is needed.
Low tech and cheap, should work well. Going to run my super low tech system for a little longer, maybe order a couple more 1um baby filters to get as much savings as I can. Maybe build a 'on the go' filter system out of another 5gal bucket out of the little filters so I can filter on the road as I find it.
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exactly what I'd planned on setting up - but I never made the room to make it happen, too much shat and too many projects. very nice!
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ill get the spec sheet on them, but i remember they are rated to 60psi- we consistantly run them to 80psi all day long.
and also there is a particle distribution, 1um does not really mean 1um
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You want to try filter as you find them on the road then dump straight into the tank? I won't suggest you to do that because the WMO will never get the chance to dewater.
By the way I just got home with wmo i got from Mr.Mindless's place
Shitload of water and thick sludgy WMO!!! Hell, I found a oil pickup tube in one of his bucket! Lol I'm not afraid to run this WMO.
How much you usually collect and process? I read on other forum where a guy who use a 250 gal or so tote with 6" cap on top. He bought a 7" sock filter which work perfectly on the top opening. But I still suggest a centrifuge for several reasons, I think the best part is that for centrifuge type filters, you're only paying for electric to run the pump because there's no filter to buy. I understand that you want to keep it simple though.
So, I'll suggest to you that any WMO you collect, mix it with a 15% of RUG, (Ex: a 55 gallon barrel will need 8.25 gallon of RUG to 46.75 gallon of WMO to make a W85 blend) then let it to settle for a minimum of a week to allow the sludge and water to settle to the bottom (so your filters will last longer) then pump/scoop out the good W85 off the top to do your final filtering, probably won't hurt to pump through the 1um filters for a couple of passes that smike was talking about.
Blending the wmo with RUG will help majority of the sludge and water to settle to bottom, or most of it will remains suspended in the WMO.
I use HF's 1" clear water pump for my pumping needs. $35 each.
I run straight W85. Run as much as you want.
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id say i have about 100 gallons if anyone wants it under my deck, all in 1gallon jugs, i weed kill with my lift drain and thats been dumped at least 5 times at 8 gallons
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This was the first batch I've made, just dumped through the filters and put it in the tank. Settling is probably good, this stuff sat in buckets unmoved for a long time but no gas mixed in. I avoided dumping the last inch of each in, definitely a mess on the bottom of the buckets.
Chad and Nick have 60k each on their trucks running a mix of whatever they can get their hands on, just dumping through a single 1um sock with maybe some settling time from what I gather.
As far as centrifuge, I was surprised at the price for just the centrifuge itself but you need to be able to supply it with 85psi of oil. Do you use the HF pump for that too? The pump PAbiodiesel sells is like $330. I'd like to net some decent savings from doing this before spending that much money. Once I get a 55gal drum setup, I will probably start adding some gas to the mix.
Since I can basically Google and find any answer I could ever want, I try to avoid doing that. So I'll ask you since I know you ACTUALLY do this stuff haha. How much water is usually suspended in WMO? I'm confident all but one of my buckets never would have had contact with water. That bucket clearly has about 1" of water on the bottom that I can see. For the rest, I was going on visually looking as I poured it. For now, I was going to heed the warning of my 'water in fuel' light and be good about draining the filter (less than 1k on this filter now and I carry a spare.)
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There are some people who piece together a electric motor and power steering pump off a junkyard car. I bought my motor/centrifuge package from pabiodiesel so I don't need to rig up a pump. Keep in mind that those spinner type centrifuge require high psi at around 85psi but low volume, so try avoid high volume pump or it'll not work great.
HF 1" clear pump definitely will not work because they only make half of the required psi to run the centrifuge. I use it to run through my spin on filters and into my truck's tank or my holding barrels.
The amount of water that could be in the WMO, I'll never know until I settle it out as I often get my WMO from sketchy sources. If you know your source are dry, then it won't be much if at all but it don't always happen.
For chad and nick, that's great to know that they're getting by with minimal filtering. The beauty of those 12v that they are very tolerable with alternate fuel.
I got my barrels from this guy on CL. $8 for the barrel with lid and ring, real deal.
http://rochester.craigslist.org/for/3823223101.html
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I like the idea of at least a sock as a prefilter on the way into the tote
By the way I just got home with wmo i got from Mr.Mindless's place
Shitload of water and thick sludgy WMO!!! Hell, I found a oil pickup tube in one of his bucket! Lol I'm not afraid to run this WMO.
I knew a couple of them would be bad, no idea where a pickup tube came from though, damn. Maybe engine teardown and I forgot I left it draining? Lol
Glad you have the same confidence in your centrifuge that I do :) I think Smike's oil stash is about the same quality as mine.
Going forward, mine should be in much better shape.
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Awesome info all around. Thanks a lot. If I can continue to realize some decent savings from doing this, I will definitely consider getting a centrifuge. Even though Chad will probably call me a pussy engineer, worrying too much haha! To me, the ability to pick up any oil from anywhere and know you can make it useable is huge.
Where is that dude with the $8 barrels? That's exaclty what I need! Might have to have somone scoop one for me, I plan to be out that way 4th of July with my truck. All the barrels here are $25-35 and are either ceramic lined (I'm guessing a no-go for drilling holes and welding bungs) and/or don't have removeable lids (not as big a deal.)
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i have been looking for 55gal drums too!
ill take 4 if anyone gets ahold of the guy!
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I got 2 or 4, 4gal jugs full if anyone wants, 100% 5k syntec
I also have a pretty constant supply of 4 gal water cooler jugs if anybody wants any
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The guy with $8 barrels is located around 10min drive north, and a little west of RIT. Not far away from Mr.Mindless's place. Easy guy to work with. He don't keep those barrels in his warehouse where he sell beddings (lol). So you'll need to call him (number is in the CL ad) then he'll bring barrels to the warehouse for you to pick up or so.
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You guys are way over thinking this just filter it and run it you will be fine. We have been doing it for many many miles and thousands of gallons in 3 vehicles with not one problem. But I know how you engineers think if you can't put it on a excel spread sheet and calculate the results you don't feel comfortable :)
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how many rags do you carry in the trucks for shut down!
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You guys are way over thinking this just filter it and run it you will be fine. We have been doing it for many many miles and thousands of gallons in 3 vehicles with not one problem. But I know how you engineers think if you can't put it on a excel spread sheet and calculate the results you don't feel comfortable :)
I rather to be over filtered than under filtered my WMO, but the thing is, you cant filter too much!
how many rags do you carry in the trucks for shut down!
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what are the best forums for WMO discussion? i want to read up on it some more.
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http://www.oilburners.net/forums/forum.php
http://www.oilburners.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?96-BioDiesel-amp-Alternative-Fuels
When I google for more info on WMO, I commonly find myself in ford forums as they still have lot of good info.
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how many rags do you carry in the trucks for shut down!
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I think he's referring to a runaway that Nick had - but that's 110% unrelated to fuels for several reasons.
- runaways are from oil into the intake generally from a failed turbo seal
- nasty fuel will fuck your pump and injectors, your turbo will never know.
- the equipment runs pump fuel, not found fuel.
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what are the best forums for WMO discussion? i want to read up on it some more.
this is the thread where I learned most of what I know:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/tow-rigs-trailers/815276-oil-diesel.html
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there is a time and a place for bushmechancry, and a time not.
with that said, my next cummins will be an old beater that runs on shop oil lol
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None of my equipment will ever see veggy or wmo
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Little bag filters and buckets are annoying, getting stuff together for the 55 gallon drum.
Nick and Chad's 7"x32" extended life filter bag McMaster part number: 5726K21 OR 5726K27
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http://www.microcogen.info/index.php?topic=2694.0;wap2
This is something I started to think about today. Sounds like he's discussing using WMO in small diesel engines. I think the environmental argument is probably kind of a wash, who knows what "recycled" really means. But the potential for emissions that could cause long term health effects has me a little concerned. Particularly heavy metals everyone claims are in WMO.
Paranoid? Has anyone seen any hard emissions data from doing this?
Guess I should make clear that I realize the amount of shat dumped into the atmosphere on a daily basis from all the stuff we do as humans in an industrial world. I'm talking about being in close proximity of smoke from stuff burning that isn't meant to burn and could be harmful.
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There's tons of shops out there who burn their waste oil in the oil furnace to heat their shop. It's not like you're the only one who polluting the atmosphere. Those shops probably burn significant more oil than I burn in a year. I'm not saying its ok to pollute but it's still a way to recycle the WMO.
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whats the difference between buring oil and waste oil?
the furnace at my parents house is form the 50's and burns oil like a Kuwait oil fire
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whats the difference between buring oil and waste oil?
Not exactly sure. Additives in motor oil?
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the additives is what the guy in that post was concerning himself with.
breathe deep? I'll pass. The smell is actually why I passed Brett the other day and led our way to the Pines instead of falling in at the convoy tail, but I wouldn't concern myself too much. The particulate matter that's in all pre-emissions diesel exhaust is supposedly a carcinogen already anyway.
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Granted it was unloaded and 30%WMO, but I had a friend behind me leaving work the other day and inquired about any smell, he said not noticeable. It might be interesting to see if I could get it tested somehow, I enjoy seeing hard data after reading so many claims on the Internet.
Closing in on 500 miles on this tank, gauge is reading a little under 1/4. Sweet. Dumping 15 gallons in with this fill up. This could become cheaper to run than my car, even running 50/50.
I'd like to get the timing advanced, I've read that really wakes these up, helps lower EGTs, and helps reduce smoke when running WMO.
Picking up a drum tonight hopefully, should have my fancy batch processor up and running sooner than later!
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triple yup on timing.
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I need one of these things.
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17.8mpg. Hoping to scrape closer to 20. Oh well.
Seems to run smoother and quieter on WMO. I also notice using less throttle it seems and building little to no boost to hold speed or pull small hills that would have required 5-8psi before. Interesting.
15gal WMO, 13.47gal #2. Given the weaker ratio that was in the tank already, I'd say its close to 50/50 right now.
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I only got 16.9 empty highway :(
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Got about 10gal in it now, just up to the second spout. Slots were a design suggestion from Chad, apparently bulging plugged filter bags don't fit through a 6" hole very well. Has a lid and handle style locking ring. Opted not to have the clear tube level reader dooda. Had nightmares of degrading tubing or accidental contact with a sharp object causing a very bad thing to happen.
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That's a SWEET clean tailgate there, sir!!
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60 degrees and 50/50 mix means full temp before driving? Stalling out at lower rpms. Warmed up and seems ok now.
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my truck do the same thing.
I use both of my feet to drive until the engine warm up to a point it'll idle on its own. I can see how it will be a challenge on a manual truck!
I installed an engine speed control cable in my truck so I can bump up the idle speed when cold and of course it can be used as high idle for winter.
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=BK_7311104_0006395974
NAPA part# BK 7311104 if the link dont work
This thread is what made me to do mine. I attached my cable to the top of the pedal, by drill a small hole then get the cable/wire to go through the pedal then loop it tightly to put a bolt in there, so that way the pedal movements from normal driving will not be affected by the cable.
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/94-98-performance/2072-home-made-throttle-control-high-idle-set-up-nc.html
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Made it 20min and up to full temp. Seemed fine for a while, then got worse. Cleaned prefilter and nothing. Changed fuel filter and nothing. Had to ease into shifting and keep RPMs high and made it back home. Does fine when lugged down with speed though, only when shifting.
Lift pump? Guess I won't know until I check. Not tonight, its pouring. And I did all that in the pouring rain!
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Got to get a fuel pressure gauge on there!
Highly highly suggested w the alt fuels.
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My idle is set at 1k rpm and love it there. No stalling helps with idling after starting
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If I have time this weekend, I think I'm going to pull the timing cover off and check to see if the KDP actually was fixed. I think the cover and/or one of the seals is leaking anyway, Felpro kit at Advance is $28.
Looks pretty straight forward. Belt, fan, radiator hose, harmonic balancer, maybe washer bottle for room? Then just pop the cover off. Doesn't sound like any special tools or anything. Shouldn't be more than a couple hours (knock on wood) if everything goes OK?
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Sounds about right.
Red loctite all this lil bolts. Clean the holes!!
If any o the bolts inside are loose do the same treatment w them. It can and will leak between the block and timing case too.
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Lift pump and running good again.
Hopefully running out of shit to go wrong now haha
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KDP done. It had kinda been done with the pop can tab looking thing. The pin was either starting to rattle out or whoever tabbed it the first time never tapped it back in. In any event, I made my own tab. Removing fan assembly was a pain, ended up removing whole assembly where it bolts to the block because the belt would just slip trying to remove the clutch. Fucked up the crank seal that came with the timing cover seal kit and had to buy a whole other kit since just the seal wasn't in stock anywhere. Reason it got fucked the first time was that there was a speedy sleeve on the crank I was too stupid to notice - pulled it off to find very little grooves on the crank so just installed stock size and it's fine.
Picked up 3 fresh fuel filters on E-bay for $35 shipped to keep in the cab.
Also replaced lower oil soaked radiator boot and belt which was pretty whooped.
Knocking on wood as I type this, but I'm truly hoping I have put in the necessary time and money to have a reliable, fuel saving tow rig for a while. Since owning it's gotten:
Dipstick
Turbo
Brake lines
Fuel lines
Ball joints
Front axle u-joints
Trackbar
Pitman TRE
Gauges
Injectors
New clutch everything
Transmission Mount
5th gear nut jammed/welded
Fresh fluids in tranny/t-case
Lift pump
KDP repaired
Timing cover resealed
Radiator hose
Belt
2 oil changes
Good luck Spencer, I hope spending an extra $1800 or so on truck and travel costs pays off hahaha
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Hard to be accurate because of dumped in buckets and weird high flow diesel pumps at the rest stop by Rausch that click off instantly, but my educated guess puts me a little over 13mpg.
Granted I started with 3/4 of a tank before topping it off Thursday night, but I spent $48 on fuel this weekend. That is FAWKING awesome.
50/50 on the way down, 60% on the way back. Not too bad on flat, but it has a noticable white haze pulling hills. I was hoping someone would be behind me for a while on the way back to put my mind at ease that it wasn't too noticeable or smelly. Still hoping timing helps.
When I cleaned the intercooler boots, both the of the larger t-bolt clamps on the intercooler broke so I temporarily replaced with a regular hose clamp. That sucked, must have pulled over to pop that back on at least 5 times. As Alex would say, things that really need fixing remind you they need fixing quite often. New clamps ordered.
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They look like you are driving a 1988 astro van with a serious oil burning issue when you are at 100% motor oil but who the hell cares. My truck throws out a serious smoke screen at idle
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i think im going to start 12 shoppinig for a shovel replacement haha
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Holmes 440 on a rusty second gen would be sweet!!
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i think the PTO might need to be upgraded to an ENGO though haha
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What could go wrong. The engo it totally safe for lifting stuff as long as your nowhere in the drop range.
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dodge 205 swap. "easy"
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Dump Bus lives on!!
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Ignore that whole bumper thing going on there haha
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Yeah!!
Back into a pole and straighten out that bumper now.
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Yeah, like the same pole at work I hooked it ok to bend it in the first place
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Found some concerning rust on the hitch during bed removal. Stick with class V? Or something cheaper and closer rated to my trailer... Or will I regret that? Might not even be cheaper. Will price from Arie.
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I'd go to a 2" class V so you're not so limited on drawbars - but you already have this one. If you're not planning on towing piles of trailer and wanting to borrow drawbars then it doesn't much matter.
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Update: this thing leaks oil. More than it used to.
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Reporting loss of pressure is way more important than leaking a bit!
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I was going to wait until the new sensor said the same thing.
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Research I did says these sending units are notorious for sucking. Mechanical gauge costs as much as the sender and threads right in. Might do that.
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good pre-panic plan
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I wonder if I have a known good one hanging out the side of my block. If I didn't damage it on the way out of the truck I probably do.
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Sweet. Throw it on my tab? 8)
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Only problem I have with mechanical is that stock guage was reading 40+ 90% of the time, then would get weird after 2hrs of driving. Not sure how to replicate that other than when I head to Rausch in 3 weeks.
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Thought: what regulates oil pressure in the engine?
Is it possible the oil filter has some bypass in it?
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All oil filters have a bypass. Otherwise if they clog, you would have no oil pressure at all – and dirty oil is worlds better than no oil.
However, the filter bypass is not what regulates oil pressure. I'm going to have to stop talking here because I am uncertain of whether there actually is any true pressure regulation, or if it's just the tolerances in the engine that determine pressure.
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my understanding is the bipass is not in the filter, its in the block
you can get shit stuck in this spring and plate. i had a piece of a wire wheel stuck in a chevy motor bipass once when i went to install a spendy oil pump, i found that is the issue, not the pump.
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I should have remembered that wire wheel wire
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I have confirmed via diagrams there is an oil pressure relief in the filter housing. Plan to inspect that tonight.
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The intermittency (word?) is what concerns me. May seem fine for the next three weeks then 2hrs into my trip to Rausch the pressure drops.
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look at you and your diagrams
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temperature? towing?
drops to what?
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Towing for 2hrs or so. Normal temps, 160-170. Glance at oil pressure gauge and it is only halfway up. Typically cruises at 40 or slightly less.
Hop out, little low on oil. Top off, good to go.
Top off when leaving Rausch, not very low.
2hrs or so in, same thing. This time I pay attention and load/RPMs seem to decrease pressure. Coming to a stop bumps it back to 40.
Check level, not low at all. Top off a little anyway and good to go again.
25min from home, does it again. Still doesn't seem low. Fucked off, I dump some in since it remedied it before. Fine again.
Get home, driver's side of block is glazed with oil and pumpkin is dripping probably every 5 seconds. Probably left a 4"x4" puddle saturated on cardboard along with lots of other little dribbles.
Random Googling of forums says these pressure sensors can kinda suck sometimes.
I spend some time with my sweet free HF light I stole from Chad and find the oil pressure sender has fresh looking oil around it. Think this could be great. Wipe it off clean and surrounding areas. Start up and there is a run coming down about 1" to the left of the pressure sensor. 99% sure it's the tappet cover.
$20 for mech gauge, $20 for pressure sensor. Going to plumb the gauge into that port and see what she says. People report wildy different readings from stock gauge and mechanical gauge. Kinda like stock is more like an idiot light than a true reading.
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Mech gauge says 70psi cold idle, 80psi cruising cold. Cluster says a hair over 40.
Mech gauge says 20psi idle hot, 60psi cruising hot. Cluster says a hair under 40.
Not sure what caused the weirdness last weekend, but I'm going to keep driving it around and if it doesn't resurface, I'm forgetting it happened.
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Definitely a glorified idiot light, then. A lot of OE temp gauges are the same way.
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300+ miles and no weirdness from either gauge. I'm forgetting it happened.
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Fixed!
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If only the puddles underneath were as easy to "fix" in the same way
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No oil pressure weirdness at all this weekend.
4" exhaust getting ordered this week, stock rotted in half.
Nothing like rowing gears in a loaded up 12v! Sometimes I wish I had more than 5 of them... :-X
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New Napa trackbar sucks. It was the cheap one, but still. The bushing squishes 1/4" and ball joint has play when sawing the wheel.
Moog ProblemSolver with larger ball joint is $63 shipped from Rockauto, closeout pricing. Would be nice to unbolt, then bolt on.
Or this looks cool and gets rave reviews for a little under $100 with a poly bushing as well:
http://www.lukeslink.com/Installations.html
Would be sweet to have a "premanent fix" that I could keep adding preload to the joint.
Thoughts?
Don't feel like spending the time or money on going 3rd gen double shear.
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lukes link only works to replace the stock joint not in a NAPA bar if I'm remembering right.
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Napa is ok, Moog problem solver is a no-go. Problem solver ball joint is easily twice the size of the napa/stock ball joint.
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Cut off the ball joint end and either get a bushing end on or heim and weld on bracket on the frame!
I used Luke's link and didn't last long at all.
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I'm going to hope that's because you use yours in sand dunes. Hoping Luke's will do for the duty mine sees. If not, I will cave and build something I guess.
Another question for Brett: I am getting considerably more smoke, residue in my tailpipe, and feels slightly down on power. Thinking the 15w-40 batch I made last time really needed some gas added to thin it out. Lesson learned, but I'd like to clean things out. What do you normally do in this situation? Chad said he ran his down to nothing then added 10gal #2 and 125gal worth of Stanedyne fuel treatment. Got it hot, let it sit, ran worlds better the next day. I was thinking of grabbing some Power Service and doing the same since I'm not sure where to buy Stanedyne locally. Unless you have a better suggestion on product or procedure...
Hit 4k miles running WMO blend on the way to work today.
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That statadyne is awesome!!! I was never a believer in stuff like that and when the diplomat started running like complete shit not being able to go 55 mph or anything I was about to buy new injectors and Chad said run the statdyne. I figured what the hell and put half a bottle in with about 12 gallons and once that tank was through the car was back to normal running. I am a huge believer in that stuff now
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Found a place that sells it locally. I think I will do the same thing Chad did and see what happens. Sounds promising
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Found a place that sells it locally. I think I will do the same thing Chad did and see what happens. Sounds promising
where and how much?
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I am in CT... but Metro Fuel. Same place I got DV o-rings from, small local place recommended to me. Didn't ask about price, but I'm happy to support them. It's between $6-10 online for 1 pint which treats 125gal.
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so the diplomat is back up to 58mph now? :D
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I'm going to hope that's because you use yours in sand dunes. Hoping Luke's will do for the duty mine sees. If not, I will cave and build something I guess.
Another question for Brett: I am getting considerably more smoke, residue in my tailpipe, and feels slightly down on power. Thinking the 15w-40 batch I made last time really needed some gas added to thin it out. Lesson learned, but I'd like to clean things out. What do you normally do in this situation? Chad said he ran his down to nothing then added 10gal #2 and 125gal worth of Stanedyne fuel treatment. Got it hot, let it sit, ran worlds better the next day. I was thinking of grabbing some Power Service and doing the same since I'm not sure where to buy Stanedyne locally. Unless you have a better suggestion on product or procedure...
Hit 4k miles running WMO blend on the way to work today.
My Luke's link didn't last driving to work/school. No off roading at all.
I had this issues too. I have not found a solution yet other than get 50% or higher of D2 in the tank then she cleans right up but it'll come back when I go heavy on WMO again though.
Every time I drive through heavy rain, my smoke got significantly reduced so I'm considering water/meth injection with a big tank as I want it to start spraying at 5psi.
I'm not sure if its just in my head but since I got back home in Chicago for a bit before the school start again, I drive like I stole my truck as its how things is around here especially everyone seem to think they need to cut me off, my smoke became way less... Maybe drive with heavy right foot will make a difference?
On the power thing, the power came back instantly when go back to D2. That's all I know.
The inside of the tailpipe on my truck have good amount of build up and some got on my rear bumper.
I ran a ton of hydraulic fluid, diesel oil and bunch of unknown WMO without any serious issues other than smoke and cold start/idle.
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Thanks, Brett.
Bought a thing similar to Luke's, same price but it's threaded and weld-on, and uses a metal cup instead of nylon. Almost turns it into an adjustable threaded joint kinda thing. We'll see.
I changed the fuel filter, didn't make much difference. This morning, I romped on it the entire way to work. It did seem to help a little. Darker smoke, smoother idle. I think I'm still going to run this down to nothing and try running a bottle of Stanedyne with 5-10gal of D2 per Chad's suggestion.
Mollie and Reid bought a house with comparable working space to our current place, and are all for having a 250gal storage for WMO onsite. Once we're settled, I will probably follow suit with you and Spencer and start just running W85.
Planning to rebuild my stock turbo soon and incorporate some boost control back into things. I have never tried to see how high it will go, but I can do 40 without trying to hard. Pry limit to 30-35.
Opinions: are 37s too tall? Was thinking about spending $125/tire or whatever from Trailworthy for four good OZs. Calculator says with 4.10s, I'll still be a little shallower than Spencer with 285s and 3.55s. A hair over 1900 cruising at 70. If Chad can get the Vision hookup, that would be sweet. But no news on that so far.
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my phone was dieing last night sorry i didnt respond.
Not really looking to sell my 19.5 SRWs if they dont go for extra $$ with the dodge i will keep them for trailer wheels for an 8 lug thing
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Ok, no problem. Thanks.
You said they came off a truck that drove on railways or something?
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they are wheels off a CSX truck yes
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many web wheelers make fun of the off set, its probably 1" in than stock. i bought 2" wheel spacers and they were too wide so i just run them as is. id go 245s next set of tires though.
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A hair over 1900 cruising at 70.
i'm pretty sure im right at 2k @ 70. let me check again. imo, its alllllmost a little shallow for not lugging it in 6th
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Maybe difference in speedo readings? The calc also says I should be doing 2075 with my current setup at 65mph, but it's more like 2300
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It's not like it's bad to have to drop one hole for the big hills. It's probably better for your economy overall. Shame that it's such a big step with the little transmissions, going from 2k to 2500 sucks.
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I like trying to run above 2k towing. If I were to plan what you are trying to do I would shoot for 2100 at 70. It will keep the egt way down and probably be same gas milage not that matters
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my 24 valve pulls hard from 1800-2200
3.55s and had same 285s spencer has
i thought at 70 i was more close to 1900
which is why i had towing at 65-68 with most people. its just annoying. id rather tow at 58-60 in 5th
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65-67 is all I've got. 70 has it screaming.
I like the way it feels around 58-60, right around 2000
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I can't tell WTF these things are, but they are sweet!!! Look like recaps of some kind probably.
http://syracuse.craigslist.org/pts/4015063625.html
Might lowball and see what happens. Wheels are cheap.
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dont F around with tow rig tires, i will tell you first hand a blown steer at 75 MPH hawing up a hill is no fun
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I has been thinking about get one of those 37's.
Which rims you're thinking about to get? lift or trim to fit?
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Reid's 37s... Looks awesome
It was different, but I liked how I could use the torque through all the gears. Would pry be a lot different towing. It was raining and phone speedo sucks, but 70 seemed like a little over 2k.
Chad says they are too much for towing with 4.10s. All 35" options for 16s or even 17s are almost all D range and should be put on wider rims. 19.5s are going to cost $1400ish between rims and tires... That just seems like too much for a $4k hawg. The $800 37s seemed perfect haha
If I go 16.5", pry just get steelies like those. Priced them $300 shipped from Summit.
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What about getting a 355 axle?
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37s just look right.
With a mildly turned up 12v I can't believe that towing performance would suffer that much - especially with a single tow. On the other hand you're asking a LOT more of the brakes.
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And the pos nv4500
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I don't think I'd worry single tow...
On the other hand, higher RPMs make that POS live a happier life.
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I'm not sure about summit racing's cheap black 16.5" rims as most of them are only rated around 2,000 lb each.
Basically soon as the truck get hooked to a trailer with the jeep, the wheels' "overloaded".
In the pic, do they rub? Look like no lift. What wheels are those in the pic?
I did some searching on those military 37's and I found that some said they mostly measured out to be 35"-36" tall. So if that's the case, that'll help with the fitment and towing power over true 37" tall tires.
I might gonna try the stock double beadlocks H1 rims with spacers if I still can't find rims I want with good load rating and proper backspacking.
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Did some highway driving tonight:
4th
2050 at 50
2250 at 55
5th
1700 at 55
1800 at 60
2100 at 70
55-60 could be a little tough, but not awful I don't think.
These 37s measure 34.5" with weight on them. Same as my Creepies though which run pretty true to size (but with a 4.0 on them, not a Cummins.) If militaries run the same, could potentially be a good combo.
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Brett, those are 4.5" BS 17s. No lift, rubs the inner fender when turning. Easily trimmable I'd say.
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Picked these up. 4 on rims and a rimless spare for $450. Hard to pass up. Smooth on the highway, need some trimming ASAP.
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Looks good!
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Sharp
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Thanks guys. I'm quite fond of them, actually. Noise level is noticeable, but not annoying (IMO.)
you're asking a LOT more of the brakes.
This is an issue, though. That knuckle swap gone, Mike? Need to look into that.
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You can DIY for cheaper than I'd sell you my parts - and I have DRW hubs too. For the best Ford brakes you want the 95-97.
easiest to just get a whole axle but you can save a little coin piecing together, some D50 TTB stuff crosses over. I think the knuckles differ but the rest is the same? I can't remember for certain. Read this (long) thread: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/dodge/874442-dodge-ram-2500-4x4-dana-60-hub-removal-converison-ford-knuckles.html
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maybe look for a disk rear axle also
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Noticeable increase in braking performance with the Ford stuff, Mike? Lockouts would be nice, but my unit bearings are fine right now.
Disc swap the rear? Easy and simple, but no e-brake. Read about swapping wheel cylinders for GM 14b ones, people rave about it. Cheap, meh.
I know my drums are out of adjustment, might start there. Not sure how I feel about towing with the 37s as things are right now.
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I didn't feel any immediate improvement on mine. I think mostly because my stock dodge stuff was in good shape and had good pads (ceramic). The ford stuff on my truck right now uses a wearever gold pads (semi metallic).
I did the math and found that dodge caliper's piston is bigger than ford's dual pistons. However I like ford's bolt-on calipers way better and it use 13" rotors.
DO NOT PUT GM WHEEL CYLINDER IN YOUR DODGE 2500! I regret doing it! Stick with stock dodge 2500's 15/16" bore, you may can get away using dodge 3500's 1-1/16" bore. The GM ones are 1-3/16". Huge jump over the stock 15/16" ones your truck have right now.
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I noticed a big difference but I needed brakes anyway. Brett just did it and noticed much less difference than I did.
I'd do both. I never got to the GM wheel cyl's.
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Brett had wicked problems with his brakes after the ford knuckle swap and GM wheel cylinders.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/tow-rigs-trailers/1414106-rear-brakes-lock-up-moderate-braking-severe-shaking.html
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I thought it was the front so I did the ford knuckle swap with 100% new brakes which did nothing to the problem, therefore that's when I got the clue that its from the rear.
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Duly noted on the GM wheel cylinders. I figured getting the drums in adjustment would probably make a bigger difference.
Being stick and therefore D80 rear, are 3500 wheel cylinders still larger than what I currently have?
Around town it seems "OK". Had to do a somewhat quick stop for construction cruising at 70 this morning, distance was not unreasonable but I was stomping the pedal and eyeing the shoulder until I finally did stop... was unnerving
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Have you gone through your brakes? Sounds like glazing symptoms to me.
Brett, I haven't read that thread yet but I do have a combo valve still from my truck. And a master. Only the hydroboost booster is gone. I had RWAL. Not sure if that'll help you but it sounds to me like you have brakes out of adjustment (too tight) and/or something holding residual pressure in the back system.
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I don't need more parts from you, at least for now haha. It's all fixed now. It was from the wheel cylinder too big so it overworked the rear end brakes and caused the drums to warp.
No glazing anywhere on shoes.
It stops perfectly now. I put in the stock 15/16" bore wheel cylinders and fixed the run out on the hub (which amplified the hopping from the wear pattern in the shoes & drums) then I replaced the shoes and drums.
GM wheel cylinders was way too much because they'll lock up the rear end without too much effort, basically made the front end to work less. It was dangerous when I need to make a panic stop because the rear end will be sliding all over the place.
I googled on this (to find out wtf going on on my truck) and found that its common for this to happen with the bigger wheel cylinders. Many said their fix was to back off the adjustment but that's not the right way to fix them so I put in the smaller wheel cylinders.
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interesting, I did read the rest and I'm glad you got it solved.
I too have heard rave reviews on the GM "upgrade" - good to know that it's not for everyone and may in fact be harmful especially in a 2500.
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I may or may not throw rotors and pads at it in addition to adjusting the drums. I haven't touched the brakes since owning, the pads have plenty of meat. Maybe just needs fresh parts to replace old and "glazed."
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Are rotors an annoying press fit on the unit bearing? Or do they just come off when you hammer the studs out?
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I could never be a body man, that sucked. Will serve its purpose though, it would have been rubbing and unable to turn any further before. Pics make it look better than it really is. White spray bomb and done.
Was hoping to get both sides done in the time it took to finish one...
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Pics make it look better than it really is.
never heard that before hahaha
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Went for a spin last night with my Jeep hooked up. Felt good, basically knocked everythimg back a gear. Only concern I had is 50-60mph, revving in 4th or lugging (grade dependent) in 5th.
What would be the max RPM you'd feel comfortable pulling a long grade with? Hoping I can leave it in 5th and let it do work to hold speed at 2000, but if I need to drop a hole and spend 2-3 miles at 2500 to hold 65mph, is that an issue? Being the industrial engine it is, I would think not.
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The BBB would scream all day at 2500... (63 mph with no grades) ;D
Chadley once told me that 3000 shouldn't be a problem...
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For a stock 12v, 2500 rpm will be fine.
I did that a couple of times with mine. I had to turn off O/D (auto) to keep the smoke and egt in check when towing uphill on shitty batch of wmo.
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interesting.
i was keeping mine under 2300 always. running it up would help my EGT and keep boost down slightly. probably best with the blowby thats starting
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dont be skeered of rpms
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what gov spring kit do i want to buy? 4k looks to be the consensus. one in particular that's better?
/hijack
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/hijack
Not at all. Let's expand this discussion out to delivery valves and injector HP ratings as well.
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Yes, get the 4kgsk.
If you want, leave out the smallest spring from the kit to make it a 3kgsk, so that way you have the spring needed to make it a 4kgsk later.
Since yours' trans is manual, so the stronger valve springs will be good idea to prevent valve floating when overrevved or if running an exhaust brake.
On the auto, the trans (when the shifter is in "D", that is) will always shift before ~3000 rpm so the valve springs are not a huge concern for auto guys (like me).
On my truck, I need bigger turbo even with the original stock 180hp injectors. I did the AFC spring kit from TST, along with rack travel mod, 16* timing advance, 2095 Mack plug, and of course no fuel plate, the truck will hit ~48-50 psi of boost easily and unregisterable high egt to boot. Currently running a custom grinded stock fuel plate close to #100 profile to keep thee egt and boost in check (~1400*F, ~35psi max).
I want more power but I want to do some more magic to my auto trans first. I really think there's some performance can be made with better converter and some other stuff.
At bare minimum I want the trans to have billet 300m input shaft and triple disk converter installed then I'll like to put a s475 under the hx35 or so. My goal is to have a cool running 500-600 hp or so. Yeah... Down the road...
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Definitely 4k. You don't need to use it but it'll be there an flexibility is nice. I'd do a 3500 if it existed but it doesn't.
Chadley is a fan of huge DVs and letting the injectors catch up quicker. I don't know enough about DVs to have a real opinion but it makes sense to me. I think he's told me he would put full cuts on just about anything.
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This thing hogs sweet with the new tires. 60mph was 1900 in 5th, usually dropped to 4th for speeds much lower than that. Not much of my trip is done at those speeds so it was fine.
I was doing 60-62mph peaking couple of the long hills. On the way back, I realized that this seems to be because at the throttle position I would need to hold 70, I am spooling to 30+psi with what feels like minimal increase in power beyond that. Also, I seem to blow the boot at the intercooler intake at long pulls of 30psi, so I try to avoid doing that. Having that in my head may have also contributed to my lack of sufficient throttle useage.
Interwebs say WH1C and HX35 are basically interchangeable. Might look for charts on each to compare, but I'm leaning towards rebuilding my WH1C vs Mike's HX35.
Will bigger turbo back on help keep intake pressure lower, but cooler?
Why am I blowing that boot consistently, despite having cleaned ALL oil from that area and cranking the shit out of the clamp?
I hate the jinx myself, but this truck is rapidly approaching the "I would change nothing" asymptote
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get comp cams gator clamps from summit and use a ratchet to tighten them
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Silicone boots are the schizzle
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-g31280
Those are gonna work better than these (what I have now)?
http://www.mcmaster.com/#5312k15/=oj8l8r
Worth the money to get a silicone boot/clamp kit? If the boot isn't tearing, how is silicone better?
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-g31280
Those are gonna work better than these (what I have now)?
http://www.mcmaster.com/#5312k15/=oj8l8r
Worth the money to get a silicone boot/clamp kit? If the boot isn't tearing, how is silicone better?
my bad, probably not i wasn't remembering they arnt just screw type hose clamps that suck. those look HD not sure why they are coming off.
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less expamsion; even fresh rubber would probably help you out.
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oil saturated rubber probably not helping
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Some guys used hair spray prior installation to stop the boot from coming off. Try it?
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gator clamps are the shit!
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Ran my fuel tank down too low and clogged a filter. Need to get a fuel pressure gauge on this guy, took longer than it should have to diagnose that. Not that long, but still. Needs a gauge.
Do I need one of these or can I tap the banjo bolt on the clean side of the filter for 1/8 npt? I don't care if the reading is jumpy.
http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BF-CBS010
Lost about 3/4" out of the coolant res on the last Rausch round trip.
Installed breather oil cap back on, oil leak has been reduced by 2/3.
Dan came over the other day and noticed oily goop around the #1 exhaust gasket. Said this is likely a sign of blowby. Need to do a compression test. Same cylinder that yields almost no difference when cracking the injector line, and same cylinder with issues in VA. We're both afraid 7hrs of fuel dumping on the return trip from VA may have done some damage.
Considering replacing the leaky, coolant eating, possibly damaged pistoned motor with something less used that lived a stockish life before me. Chad says not to give up until I try putting a headgasket in it. I guess that's just a weekend and a couple bucks anyway, but weekends aren't as cheap to me as they once were. Chad also suggested retorquing head bolts, something he said has worked for him in the past.
It still runs respectably right now. I scored a cheap rebuilt HX35 and got some silicone boots and a mechanical boost controller. Plan to install and keep running it, but starting to look down the road.
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All sounds hopeful & reasonable. Not sure about just throwing a HG at it. problems beyond a HG would likely be visibly apparent with a bore scope if you have access, or once the head is off.
I still have a complete mech gauge garbage picked from delphi. you can drill and tap the 14mm bolt that feeds into the p7100. the 12mm bolts aren't big enough to drill and tap 1/8" npt
the hammer will likely kill a gauge w/o a needle valve.
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I didn't need to get any fitting to put my fuel pressure gauge on. There's a 1/8" plug on top of the fuel filter (outlet) housing to remove then install the needle valve in there, done.
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40psi spikes are gonna wreck an 80psi gauge? Meh. Guess I'll do the needle valve. Bolt size explains why everyone seems to do the banjo on the pump.
HG issue is assumed from over-boosting, not anything else. Some quick shopping says finding a motor under $1k will be tough. Would be annoying to pull the head and find a motor not worth putting a head back on, then scrambling to find a deal on a motor.
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very annoying.
I'm quite certain the bleeder in the 12mm filter output banjo bolt is not 1/8" NPT. I think it's a 6mm nontapered thread.
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it's the speed & frequency of the spikes that's harmful not the pressure - it sees either two or six spikes per revolution or some combination thereof with the way the cam driven mech pump pumps and the 6 DVs fill and spill.
reportedly.
I bet an HD gauge would be fine, smike would probably know better whether gauges can handle 10+psi swings at 40psi peaks at 2500*6/second
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Here's mine. It's 1/8" npt needle valve with 1/8" tubing on the top. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/02/2amuhady.jpg)
(Yes I know there's some leak, it's from the plastic tubing)
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Looks like a similar aftermarket 12mm bolt to what I had to buy for my 6.7. That's not the stock bleeder bolt.
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Fuel pressure gauge done. Friend had aftermarket tapped banjo, ordered snubber valve thingy. Sweet.
HX35 and silicone boots installed. Also installed ball and spring type boost controller in hopes of limiting boost to 35lbs. Not sure it's gonna work, but haven't spent enough time tuning it in to decide for sure. On a positive note, hills at 70 with a load seem to be no thing now.
Still leaks. Valve covers, oil drain (need to install valve from Mike this weekend) and tappet cover. First two are easy, tappet cover... Not so much. Installed a diaper to avoid ruining new driveway. Debating if I really feel like pulling everything off the driver's side of the engine to fix it. Either way, timing is next on the "upgrade" list. After that, delivery valves, injectors, and that's about it.
In the last 250 miles, I seem to have not lost much coolant. Hoping the last Rausch trip was a fluke and I can forget about that. Time will tell. For now, gonna continue to enjoy rowing gears and burning free fuel.
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Setting timing is good practice for when you want to pull the pump later to do the tappet cover gasket.
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Pondering aux tank ideas. Thinking either normal transfer pump and fill truck that way or do something similar to Motorcycle's gravity feed but controlled with a ball valve, just open till gauge reads full and close. Gravity fill is more covert, but probably not very DOT kosher. Thoughts?
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I have Mindless's 105 gal L- shape aux tank and reused his plumbing to feed the stock tank. I leave the valve open all the time. Approximately 2,000 miles range is sweet ;D
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Any range passed 300 makes little sense ..... Got to pee don't you
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I completely agree. Unless you make your own cheap fuel!
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Transfer tank with a pump is easy and has multiple uses. Then one you are lazy just fill the bed with 5 gallons jugs like I do for trips
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Got to pee don't you?
My first thought!
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Pee sure. Buy expensive fuel? Nah
~1800 mile range was SWEET. 6-800 is decent though.
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Just spent about 900 miles driving this guy, half of which was done with about 17* of timing advance. I noticed a little loss on the low end, but she rips a little harder from 1800-2200.
When removing the #1 delivery valve, we found a broken spacer washer thingy underneath it. Reinstalled for the trip home (ran the same) but hoping that may contribute to some of the #1 weirdness it's had for a while.
Also got all new fuel and brake lines Saturday at Chad's house. :-X
This will totally jinx it all, but it is running as well as it has since I have owned it right now. Governer springs would improve drivability some. Beyond that, I see delivery valves and injectors and not much else.
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Sweet batman cape underneath!
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I was driving Cummins trucks when they still needed di-a-perrrs
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We're talking about Depends, not Huggies
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Hills at 70 were a breeze with the advanced timing towing Jeepie this weekend. It's nice.
Reid bought a 96 3500 down in FL. 4x4 5spd. Took it for a rip last night, wow. Either mine is lacking or that 215 pump really does make a huge difference. I reliaze mine is on 37s and his is on 33s, but still. It seemed to require noticeably less throttle at all speeds than I remember mine needing on 32s. It also revs to 3k and mine stops at 2750. Not sure if his has had a GSK installed or not. Hoping GSK and DVs will get me close to where his is.
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it has a 3k GSK if it stops around 3k and not 2750, and that will make a WORLD of difference since it'll allow more fuel all over the place.
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Pac Brake GSK comes with springs for either 3k or 4k, so I'll decide on that later. Pry just do 4k like suggested in here so full fueling up to 3k will be possible. Assuming power <2k will be the same with either?
Will 191 delivery valves make for a good towrig/DD? As opposed to a bombed out coal roller. Chad said buy whatever I can get a deal on as stock sucks, 191s seem to go for $170-200.
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I have to defer to Chad on DVs. I'd go 4k so you can do 3200 rpm when you want or need to.
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Remember you can't get hot egt even with no plate so I wonder is its a sign there's something that's holding back your power.
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I know, I've definitely considered that too. I need to replace the broken copper washer in the pump ASAP, I'm curious how much that's hindering performance.
Chad spent a decent amount of time riding around in it a couple weeks ago and felt it was pretty consistent with what he would expect from a low HP pump truck on 37s.
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4wd was the right choice :)
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Pulling off the side of an exit ramp to pee VS
Refueling at a truck stop AKA 45 minutes of time waiting inline for billybob to stop flirting w the cashier and move his truck forward.
I used to tell my passengers on long road trips like Atlanta or Daytona. .. "get it out now. Its camel time"
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I was actually thinking about putting one of those toolbox transfer tank combos in my truck.
What specifically makes an aux tank legal or not
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I was actually thinking about putting one of those toolbox transfer tank combos in my truck.
What specifically makes an aux tank legal or not
How did Granny say it? "It aint wrong 'till someone catches you doin' it." That was her justification for everything.
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in short: if it's tied into the fuel system, it needs to meet more stringent DOT regs.
I think some of the transflow stuff is not "not to be tied in" and is actually meant to be set up the way I did mine.
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Is going through the filler neck not considered "tied in?"
I was going to go your route until I found the tank I have with a working pump on it for $100. Too easy to not just use it as is.
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I don't think "tied in" is defined, but I'm quite certain that filling directly in any way is "tied in"
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And then the DOT #s come back to bite me in the ass.
FML
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yup. DOT and DMV is so F'd up its comical.
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Is it that bad of a thing to just stop once every 300 miles and spend 5 min just pumping into your tank
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if you are a single guy no.
if you are in a convoy with 3 trucks, have any women, any children, or any dogs- like Erik said its a 45min cluster
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if you are a single guy no.
if you are in a convoy with 3 trucks, have any women, any children, or any dogs- like Erik said its a 45min cluster
So true!
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or a Garafalo ::)
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Is it that bad of a thing to just stop once every 300 miles and spend 5 min just pumping into your tank
Yes it's terrible!
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or a Garafalo ::)
Lmao
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Haha
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Anyone (Mike or Brett) know off the top of their head that the outlet of the fuel filter housing is 12mm x 1.5?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/atm-2276?seid=srese1&gclid=CLu3uc3JxrsCFWMV7Aod4mkApw
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what you linked is 12x1.25
I believe 12x1.5 is correct, about 75% certain. check someone like DAP, they sell what you're looking for.
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Oops! Thanks, that would have sucked. I guess what I really need confirmation on is whether it is 12 or 14mm, since the normal Cummins parts places sell both. Pretty confident on the 1.5 pitch.
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12mm at the filter, yes.
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Merry Christmas!!!
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/25/yre6a8en.jpg)
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now the caution: if you have stock valve springs don't get too far above 3k, they'll float
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Not really planning to rev much over 2500-2800, just to make the 3-4 split suck less. Will I get full fueling that high up with 3k springs? Or should I just got 4k. Kit came with both.
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Put both in. I love my 4kgsk.
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4k all the way, just be smart with your foot.
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Got a nice stream of coolant running down the side of the block. Looks to be the head gasket between cylinders 3 and 4.
Anyone have a lead on a cheap long block? Fuck.
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BUS MOTOR
fuck
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Fuck.
Could throw a HG at it, but that seems silly to do without rings and checking bearings and a head job with it's existing blowby issues.
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Chad says do the HG, or at least pull the head and look. No harm in checking at this point I guess.
Also noticed the oil leak was much worse, and slows down a lot when removing the oil cap.
Feeling very done with this motor.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/02/duqezatu.jpg)
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Burn it
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Gotta love $3000 Cummins trucks.
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$4000!
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time for big truck!
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$4000!
That makes it worse........
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Also noticed the oil leak was much worse, and slows down a lot when removing the oil cap.
Boooo for blowby!
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$4000!
That makes it worse........
I know. The problem I found in looking was that you need to spend at least $8000 to get something nice. Spencer's truck for $5k got him high miles and time bomb trans, my roommate just bought a 96 for $6000 with over 350k with non-functioning 4wd and a shot clutch. We all looked for 3+ months, either gotta gamble on cheap or double your price range... :-\
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http://newhaven.craigslist.org/pts/4251799699.html
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That's a 1st gen.
Car-Part has a few over 200k miles missing turbos for $1000-1600 :-\
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$1k motor most likely includes injection pump, and being a 97, it would be higher HP pump. Plan would be to scoop that up, throw a fresh head gasket on it on the stand and run it. Could pry recoupe a few bucks by selling my current pump.
Before I convince myself that's the best path to take, is this motor worth rebuilding? Rings and gaskets like Mike said? Would that fix the blowby? Or is that more likely from piston/bore wear? I can't see spending much more than $1500 putting a motor back in this thing, and $1k or less would be ideal.
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rebuilding motors is for the birds.
never - ever - rebuild a motor
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rebuilding motors is for the birds.
never - ever - rebuild a motor
this...
unless its something rare or you have an emotional attachment
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Why do you say that?
I did my long block for about 1500 for the 12 gen. I know everything is tight on it too. Now the clutch is slipping though. Time for a 13.25 southbend.
Got all my parts from this place. Great to deal with. http://www.mumaudiesel.com/
rebuilding motors is for the birds.
never - ever - rebuild a motor
this...
unless its something rare or you have an emotional attachment
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No attachment, fuck this motor.
$1k, looks good to me.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/03/eby9uvyz.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/03/henuryna.jpg)
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sweet fuel filter adapter!
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Just noticed that, would actually be pretty handy for my intended purpose!!
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leaky girl, will fit right in.
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http://www.mightydiesel.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=108&products_id=1011
Thoughts? $5 more than normal head bolts. Planning to just go with a Felpro head gasket.
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that product description is so sketchy hahaha
i'd run em.
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i like how they explain 90 degrees
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incase the bolt stretches here a few extra lol
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The 90* is straight from cummins! Crazy, yessir.
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/06/ahujyvu2.jpg)
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bitch to get past the cowl and core support at the same time, eh?
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Bring back memories, Mike?
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I think the biggest pain was disconnecting the motor mounts from the block to free up some wiggle room. Not much room to get in there on either side.
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changing a cummins cam shaft in a 24' garage is way more fun, come on.
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camshaft was child's play level easy compared to R&R the complete motor! It's like changing a transmission in 571, except heavier.
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I am at a fork in the road.
I have an opportunity to buy the following for $1500:
97 4x4 auto single cab
291k
Pretty rusty
P-pump, vac/steering pump, timing cover swapped onto a 1st gen
Good mud tires on stock wheels
Driveshafts and t-case gone
Motor supposedly rebuilt, original owner who would know when and other details has passed. Motor has zero oil on it, so seems plausible.
Comes with a 180hp p-pump that the #6 barrel sticks when hot.
I got an offer for my motor for $800 complete.
I plan to put $300 worth of gaskets and head bolts on any motor before it goes in.
Yard motor that I can give someone hell if it doesn't run good? Or risk the unknown but good looking motor and potentially be into the whol ordeal for <$500 after scrap/partout.
Bahhh!!!
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97 auto will not be a 215 pump remember. I would go with the truck you can drive plus scrap and other parts you can get out of it
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It's only money (and time)... ;D
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I can't drive the parts truck. Steering/vacuum/injection pump are not on it, neither is the timing cover, radiator or intercooler.
The yard motor is 180hp being auto, and the parts truck also has a 180hp pump. I think I'd be plenty happy with either my pump (175hp) or the 180hp pump with governer springs and delivery valves (which I both have.)
Potential buyer for my motor is not interested if I pull any parts off it.
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throw the dice...
you did when you bought a $4K truck.. why stop now...
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Trying to learn from past mistakes. That said, I think I'm leaning towards letting them roll again!!
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/12/u4e8evyr.jpg)
$1200 w/o questionable p-pump
Brand new Pepboys 265 mud terrains on mint stock wheels
Rust free hood, bed, fenders
Auto with cherry red fluid
HX35
Hydroboost
3.55 axles, new u/ball joints on front axle, new looking TRE's
Extra intercooler, radiator, and lots of other stuff. Only need to use p-pump and timing cover from my motor.
So should have plenty of opportunity to make my money back! So far, so good!! Remains going to scrap Monday morning.
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Steal!
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Sweet rust free body parts yay!
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Any opinion on head gasket brand? Felpro ok?
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I'd go with cummins brand head gasket. http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/94-98-performance-parts-discussion/485355-felpro-head-gasket-ok-big-price-difference.html
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i always run OE Cummins stuff when available.
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I read that thread, and many others like it. Also ready many that said their Felpro HG's were "fine"
I suppse OE is the smarter thing to do on a job that would suck so much to repeat.
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I need the turbo flange and about 4" of exhaust downpipe if that is going to the crusher.
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/15/huhegy3a.jpg)
Lika that??
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Price break down after one week:
Price Part
$1,200 Truck
$268 Cummins head gasket kit
$135 Head bolts
-$115 Tube steps, mirror, dash
-$85 Driver fender, taillight plug
-$300 Transmission
-$275 Scrap
-$135 HX35
-$90 HY35
-$220 Intake horn, alt, AC comp, alt bracket, stat housing
$383 Total invested
Stuff moved FAST. Still have brand new mud tires, axles, hood, rad, intercooler, tailgate and lots of other misc stuff to sell as well. Have some odds and ends left to buy, but I am expecting to actually make money on everything (knock on wood.)
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/15/huhegy3a.jpg)
Lika that??
Nope, I need an earlier one where the pipe mounts directly to the turbo without the ball socket. thanks anyways.
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Nice work
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More stuff sold, now +$500 pocketed on the deal. Probably another $300-500 worth of stuff left to sell. Been looking at turbo Diplomats :-X
Got my timing case on the new motor. Cam gear is also on, that took some creativity without removing the cam, but it's done. Head gasket tomorrow, with weeknight tinkering it should be ready for install on the first weather permitting weekend.
I miss driving this thing!
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what you have left to sell?
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http://newlondon.craigslist.org/pts/4287432300.html
Up to date listing with what's left
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This hog is motor'd and running. Did a bare minimum test run, have a lot to finish tomorrow.
Was really good to hear Cummins motor sounds coming from this thing. :)
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yayyyyyy!
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4k governor springs and 191 delivery valves, whole new truck. I can hit 1100*+ unloaded now, blows black smoke at all rpms. No more white smoke above 2k.
Steering was loosey goosey, I adjusted the over center on the box 1/4 turn and tightened up the preload on my trackbar joint thingy. Again, like a new truck.
Been getting a slight grinding noise I can hear from the rearish at low road speed since towing my jeep home. Unbolted a rear axle shaft with the wheel off the ground and I can wiggle the top of the tire back and forth 1/4" or so. Gonna just go ahead and replace all the rear hub bearings. Gonna pull the cover and make sure all is kosher in there as well.
Smike/Brett, I'm assuming one of you procured dana 80 hub bearings? Got part numbers?
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IIRC, If you still have the D70, you can rob it's bearings. It's same between Dodge's D70 and D80. You even can just swap the D70 hub right on the D80.
And, I hate Dodge's nylon locking spindle nuts with wedge. I suggest to remove and promptly throw it in the trash and use something else, like 14b spindle nut stuff.
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Borrowed an AFC from Chad and traced the foot, finally got around to cutting one out of steel and welding it back on. Drives much nicer now. It had already been cranked, so it didn't make much difference initially. I dialed the star wheel back probably 3/8"-1/2" and really like it there. I can hit the throttle and it will lag for about a half a second and blow smoke then it takes off smoothly. Before it would englulf the car behind me in smoke and take forever for boost to come up unless I was really careful. Still blows a lot of black smoke if I lug it, guessing that's hard to avoid with 191s, and I don't really care anyway.
Timing tool is on it's way, going to shoot for 16*. That will probably conclude my power mods to this truck! Maybe injectors? Not sure I even feel the need.
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Timing bumped up to a little over 16*! Pieced together a sweet timing kit for $80. Snap-On and others wanted $200!
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70 up hills was no problem this weekend! Until the ripped intercooler boot let go and I hit 1500* on the pyro as I was charging up a hill :-[ Seems fine, hoping the test of time will show the same!
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with all this bs with intercooler boots you guys have... is there a solution or is it just $$?
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I don't have problem with mine, even if I hit 50psi of boost.
Just be sure to put them on dry, no oil mess.
And FYI I had to replace mine only because the boot rubbed the inner fender well.
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I had the same issue as Spencer constantly - switched from stock rubber to silicone and zero issues since. This time the boot tore... not sure why or how, I hammered the seam in the fender away from the boot.
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stock rubber suck. they get REALLY slick if any oil gets in the joint. stock clamps suck too.
silicone boots with spring clamps is the hot ticket. I never had an issue on DB with them, even after I lost a clamp and had to just use a screw type hose clamp.
like these guys (random application, good google hit to show the camps)
http://www.realtruck.com/bd-diesel-performance-intake-hoses-clamps/?productid=446394&utm_campaign=product_ads&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CjkKEQjwwbCcBRCxvJn9-N6dorwBEiQAVriOikMp2tdQhJb4vhduCgwLOnOnWBOw7Uce64ol3QEb-Bbw_wcB
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This thing sucks at stopping, pulling hills, among other things I feel may be improved by going back to stock tires. Think I'll make that switch for the next trip to see how it goes. I will miss hogging at 70mph/2100rpm, but I think it's a loss in all other areas. Wish this were a 3.55 truck.
Seems to be gradually revving slower and slower above 2200 or so. Fuel pressure is solid, hoping maybe just something stupid like clogged air filter. Will try that. EGTs seem to climb with higher rpms? 4th to 5th seems to lower EGTs... seems counter-intuitive.
Has a weird pulsating leaking sound that almost sounds like a boost leak? Hard to track down and does not do it unless letting off from a heavy load. Burnt fuel smell is accompanied with this symptom, but no large wet spots found anywhere. Series of small dark drip spots under truck, hard to identify whether fuel or oil... suspecting fuel. Will tighten all hose clamp connections I guess.
If newer Cummins trucks weren't expensive to buy, maintain, and put fuel in... I might consider upgrading. I need to fix all these little things so I can stand to sit in this thing for 5 hours.
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2100 rpm at 70 sounds around right for towing and would've loved that when I was towing through the mountains.
with my 295/70R17 (~33" tall) and 3.55, I turn IIRC just under 1750 rpm at 70 mph, basically lugging a bit when towing heavy or in any high load situation Its a no go when in the mountain, but when I drop it down to 3rd (direct), like your's in 4th, I pretty much can haul ass over the mountain but at a lower speed, ranging 50-60 mph (I don't like to really rev the engine).
What's your boost at higher rpm when towing? I was experiencing the egt than's my liking and it was solved by cranked the starwheel tighter to stop it from running a tad rich. the starwheel control the fueling from ~10psi to max boost, so if you was towing and in that range, the starwheel is important and will affect the engine's performance.
Although, smaller tires will help nonetheless. I'd image myself running the 37's for DD/local use but swap on the small, gay tires for the long haul if i have 4.10.
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Boost was 30-33psi usually. Harder to get over 30 in 4th at highway speeds, but still definitely can. I am suspecting a boost leak and/or wastegate seepage... I have the wastegate signal blocked but may need to use some other mechanical means to keep it from being able to move at all. I have been gradually dialing back the star wheel a little at a time since I got the AFC hooked back up, maybe I do need dial it back a bit more.
2100 at 70 really is ideal, though RPMs much lower than that on hills make me cringe a little knowing that 5th won't take much abuse. 1700 is the absolute lowest mine will do anything with a decent grade.
I have no interest in switching tires for different trips, just going to let it wind out at 65-70 and deal with it.
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30-33 psi? thats more than I did had. I was always below 30 psi, but if anything more, my egt go into the red zone.
Matter of fact, I just discovered my boost leak today! I have BAD leak at the elbow where it mates to the turbo's outlet. I even RTV it with no improvement, and will give it another look tomorrow. I'll be pissed if it runs awesome after the boost leaks fixed after my trip, but at the same page, I'll be glad that my truck will have more to offer when it's fixed. The reason I finally take my time to check for any boost leak as no matter what, I had shitty preboost spooling, no smoke or smoky, it prespools poorly, but once it spools, it fine.
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what you did to fix the 5th gear nut, if any?
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Do you have an HX35? Maybe 30psi+ is too much and just heating intake and driving up EGTs. I need at least 30 to do a lot of even medium hills. Still seems strange to me that I can be at 1300* at 2500rpm, then shift and drop to 1800ish and EGT goes down to 1200 while maintaining speed.
5th gear nut has a 2nd nut jammed to it and the two nuts are welded together. Nick and Mike have both sheared teeth off of 5th after fixing the nut, though they both regularly gross much more weight than I do 1-2 times a month. Still always in the back of my mind.
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yes hx35 however once I hit 30+, egt goes up rather quick so I kinda doubt it but it's a possible.
when my truck goes into overdrive, it does the opposite, my egt usually go up. if i downshift (with no throttle input change) the egt drops. although, i think my boost leak may contribute to this more than anything as when it runs at more rpm, the turbo can more easily keep up with the leak rather than at lower rpm.
swap in an auto and tow worry-free in any gears! (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/thefinger.gif)
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My truck on really long pulls like heading north up to Turkey ranch I have to keep the boost at 30 or less to keep below 1000 degrees post turbo which is the max I ever go. I really think the tires are killing you. 245 19.5 is the way to go 2250 rpm for like 68 or so mph.
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37s are big. No two ways about it. You'd be better off in the stopping dept with smaller tires, no doubt. that's an easy diagnosis and fix.
Over 32-33, the hx35 will build heat fast. It's too small. That may be why you see what you do Irish boost...
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18psi boost and my 24valve would pull pretty good at 20-24K. still miss that truck every hill :'(
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Looks like Nick's 245s run about 33" tall, about the same as the 285/75R16s I'd look for.
One text to a friend and the 37s are sold for the $500 I bought them for... deciding whether I should look for quality used or throw a couple extra hundred on there and get something from Treadwright.
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I'm leery of Treadwright these days. It seems that their new process is troublesome. Was looking to put new sneakers on the Suburban and my research turned up some recent scary stories. Bought a new set from Jared. About $50 more total when figuring shipping, mounting, and balancing. (that was for a street tread)
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One of these days I need to look up my gearing for my truck. It seems quite happy with an auto and 34.5" tires. But as mentioned before- I'm not exactly maxing out on weight most of the time.
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These get good reviews. Sweet price.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/07/tu8uny3a.jpg)
Jared... My guess would be 3.73 or 4.10 but I will also admit you l have a lot more power.
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Thats what I'm running, I like them. Treadwrights were like $100 cheaper then these from Jarod.
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Treadwrights BFG AT knockoff is $50 more for a set and 1/2" taller.
Mark, you read some stuff on a reputable site that scared you off enough to not buy them again??
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No site in particular, just Googled some tire reviews including PBB. They are all subjective opinions anyway. But all the pics were of the recently changed process where they vulcanize(?) the whole tire, not just the tread. Too risky for the family 'burb/wagon.
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The whole tire has to go through the process, they're probably just doing a full bead to bead retread where they put a light buff on the sidewall, add some virgin rubber and mold in their own sidewall pattern/name. Thats how the company green diamond did their car snow tires. Shouldn't affect reliability unless their quality control has become sub-par, or they changed rubber/cushion/glue brands.
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Did a brake overhaul last weekend. Drums turned, new shoes, new calipers, new front hoses. Wheel cylinders, pads and rotors are a year old.
Bled, and bled, and bled. Cannot get pedal to come up hard and stomping the pedal at speed results in a quick chirp of the front tires as the pedal goes the floor. Feels spongy. Assumed master cylinder, got a new one. Bled, and bled, and bled. No difference. According to part numbers, I bought 8800gvw master and calipers and my truck says 8800gvw inside the door. Drums are adjusted correctly.
If I clamp the hoses with vice grips right before they go into the calipers and turn the truck on and hit the pedal, it comes up nice and firm like it should. Based on this, seems to me that one or both calipers are causing the issue... And not the hoses or master cylinder or anything else. But how? There is no leak I can see anywhere. I can watch the caliper move on the sliders and they can easily be moved by hand in and out when taken off the knuckle.
I am just flat out of ideas. Should I just go try another pair of calipers? I'd really like to understand what the problem is here...
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Push the little button(a) on the crossover valve and on the abs pump if equipped
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I had an issue with the Rubicon where the brake light wouldn't go off due to shuttle valve movement. Never had the chance to see if it affected actual braking. Also, don't know if this applies to your situation...
http://www.fingerlakes4x4.org/modules/smf/index.php?topic=3272.0
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Push the little button(a) on the crossover valve and on the abs pump if equipped
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Has rear abs... What little button?
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The only little button that's there. Probably between the brake lines.
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Bypassed rear abs. Nothing. Put old calipers back on. Nothing.
Ready to burn it.
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Dumb question, the bleeder is on the top side?
How are you bleeding it?
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Yes, calipers are on the correct side.
Have tried a few techniques, none of which have gotten any air out of the system, only a strong stream of clear fluid.
Helper one pump and hold, momentarily loosen bleeder, repeat.
Helped 3 pump and hold, same as above
Attach clear hose to bleeder and other end in fluid bottle. Pump fluid continuously through.
Gravity bleed
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Did you bench bled the new master cylinder?
Try tapping on the caliper or so to make the bubbles to move up top to be bled out
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Yes and did that
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If I clamp the hoses with vice grips right before they go into the calipers and turn the truck on and hit the pedal, it comes up nice and firm like it should.
I keep coming back to this. What could be wrong with the calipers?!
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Are you sure they are correct maybe they were boxed wrong
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A caliper is a caliper. There isn't a part number for one with trapped air....
So to be clear, with everything installed as usual, you have a soft pedal. If you clamp off the flex lines to both rear calipers, you have a hard pedal?
Can you pump it up? What if you pull the calipers, and install a C clamp on the piston, all the way in… Does it have a hard pedal then?
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You either have a leak or air trapped in the caliper.
Make sure the banjo bolt and the copper washers are there as should.
Pics? Remember try not to think too hard, it should be simple.
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This all on the front. But otherwise, that's correct. Vise grip on both front hoses just before they go into caliper results in a hard, not sinking pedal. Take the vise grips off, pedal slowly sinks until its 3/4 of the way down and is very spongy at that point.
One observation I made was that it seemed like the calipers were "returning" too far. When someone pumps the pedal with the truck running, I can see the piston suck back in more than I am used to seeing. I can take the calipers off just by hand which also seems unusual to me.
I was wondering if maybe there is a certain point in the master's travel that it would not hold pressure, but would still hold pressure at the beginning of its travel. But a bad master would not hold fluid under any circumstance I would think.
I will give the c clamp all the way down trick a shot. Good thinking.
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No change pumping w c clamp bottoming out caliper.
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So a clamped and bottomed – out caliper was still soft?
Have you tested this one caliper at a time? Or only both or neither?
Maybe you did get the part number with the belt – in air pocket…
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Right. It is getting really weird.
I have not tried excluding one caliper from the other.
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With that behavior it really sounds like you should be seeing an external fluid leak… Without that, I really can't think of anything. Frustration sympathized!
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I exhausted my troubleshooting ability by the end of Friday. I've exhausted all the other knowledge resources I have today. Ready to give up and take it to a shop... but I need it back by Thursday and don't know anyone reputable in the area.
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Have you tried driving it around and see if it fixes itself :) are there two new calipers?
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Yes, drove it a lot last week. Both calipers are new.
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Fire.
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My last ditch would be to let the piston all the way out, and then push it back in with bleeder cracked or better yet with suction attached while bleeder is absolutely topmost, after and while tapping on it. :Shrug:
I have no clue what could possibly be wrong with a caliper for it to do that without an external leak.
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I think I'm going to go against my gut and try a new (not reman) master.
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One of my last tests was square tube between the pads to observe and was getting consistent slow sinking at the pedal.
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Sinking pedal = master cylinder
When I was in school, the professor said he always went with NEW as there's too many defective remans.
Stay with OEM if you want when buy new one. It lasted this long so can't really go wrong with another OEM.
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Still doesn't make sense that pinching the hoses results in an unsquishy pedal. Only thing I can think of like I said before is that for whatever reason, it will hold pressure at 1/8 pedal travel when the lines are clamped, but will not hold pressure once it gets to 1/2 travel or whatever. Symptom is just too funky to blame on a clearly non-leaking caliper
That being said, fuck my life. Wasted an entire weekend chasing my tail. On a positive note, jeep was prepped in two hours
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Happems :-/
Master could certainly leak as such. I'd buy that at this point.
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New Wagner hydraulics are always a safe bet..
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3 pages of fail, sorry lol
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New master in and system bled. Pedal still feels like shit but sinking is gone and front tires will lock up at 45mph with pedal stopping at about 3/4 travel. Better than a quick chirp as the pedal goes to the floor. Not convinced its right, but improved enough for use I suppose.
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Put a 10k trailer behind it, then decide...
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I bet I can still lock up the front tires even with 7k behind me!
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Brakes worked great!
30min from home, lost power steering. Got off the highway to take back roads and lose power braking. Come to stop sign and truck is making most god awful grinding noise and feels to have been down a cylinder. Pull over, stump Chad on the phone and call AAA.
Power steering res was empty. I always check it and it's never low. I forgot to check this trip.
Thinking at the very least I need a vacuum pump and steering pump. Worst case I need those plus some new gears in the timing case and an injection pump.
Feeling ready to make a change. Not really sure what yet. Love p-pumps and free fuel, but that's about it with this truck.
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im in the office all week ;)
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down for the count!
ill sell you a sweet international and any trailer you want
Hanna will have to rid in her own car though haha
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uugh!
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sounds like blown hydro hose? locked pump up? locked exploded vac pump, maybe slipped timing?
not sure how similar 12's are to 24's but i changed that seal on the vac shaft into the PS pump to stop my truck from pouring oil!
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Not sure why it ran dry. Going to pull the vac/steering assy out and have a look. If gear looks damaged I will pull the front cover.
Putting a real muffler on my Jeep, fixing doubler shifter linkage, turn signals and a couple other minor things and sticking to local trails for a while. I have finally run completely out of steam to keep this *PILE* running.
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Tough spot bro.
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That's broken
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Cam gear looks and feels ok, pump gear does not. Hopefully that prognosis stays the same once I pull the timing cover off. Would not enjoy doing cam gear in the truck!
Could be worse I suppose.
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why would power be down though if all is ok hmmmm
vac or PS pump seized? what would cause that?
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Catastrophic failure like that could have caused pump timing to suddenly slip.
I think my pump gear went with my pump. I think I still have a cam gear on my hot rod cam, and a stock cam that's fine.
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Have not pulled front cover, but the cam gear looks and feels OK. Pump gear (can't actually see through vac pump hole) feels like the same as the vac pump gear, kinda gnarly on the edge of the teeth. So planning to replace that, hoping I can get away without replacing cam gear as that would suck to do on the truck. Thanks Mike, I will let you know. My guess is that the cam gear was continuing to spin the unconstrained vac pump gear and forcing it up into the injection pump.
Idk if I noticed power being down until right before I shut it off and it was clearly misfiring, could hear and feel that. Could slipped timing make just one cylinder off? I wouldn't think so. In the few minutes before this all happened, I may have been seeing an occaisional random puff of smoke from the tailpipe. Maybe I was losing an injector anyway and it didn't show up until I stopped... completely unrealted.
I think I need to get it back together, timed right and go from there. I really don't think I hurt the pump.
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Could slipped timing make just one cylinder off? I wouldn't think so.
No, outside of something else being weird. I guess if it was WAY off, to the point of missing, one might die before the rest if its injector or compression was a little off from the rest. It might feel like one hole dead even if it's just missing gently all over.
Agreed on putting it back together, running it, and seeing.
Id aim for 18* timing running alternative fuels, if not a little more. I ran mine between 16-16.5 and it was pretty great there on #2.
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18 was my goal as well per Chad's suggestion. Interwebs agreed saying that 16* worked well for 215 pumps and the smaller pumps (like my 175) seemed to feel really good with 18*.
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http://www.fourwheeler.com/vehicle-reviews/2014-ram-1500-ecodiesel-review-towing-and-mpg-fuel-economy/
These are intriguing. $30k for a 4x4 base model. Seems like it could be good for a DD/once a month towing machine. Could sell stuff and save for a bit and have a good down payment.
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a. sweet!
b. boooooo DEF
c. sweet!
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DEF isn't bad....until it is. :-)
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Why is DEF bad? I just see it as an extra fluid to keep up on with regular maintenance.
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When it works it's great, and easy. Once the filter starts going downhill it gets expensive fast. If the bake/pressure clean of the filter doesn't work you have to replace the whole thing usually.
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Why def? Why catalysts? Why low sulphur fuel?
Old mechanical diesels use to run forever with little maintenance...
That's why it all sucks
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The trucks my dad saw at Peterbuilt were putting out cleaner air than what it sucked in when the system works right. In real life the truck s go in to regenerate mode from Def filter issues
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We have how issues because of regen.... Don't know how the real trucking world is dealing.. It makes my life miserable.
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I know a few companies have been buying glider kits and throwing older rebuilt motor in them. ...
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http://www.fourwheeler.com/vehicle-reviews/2014-ram-1500-ecodiesel-review-towing-and-mpg-fuel-economy/
These are intriguing. $30k for a 4x4 base model. Seems like it could be good for a DD/once a month towing machine. Could sell stuff and save for a bit and have a good down payment.
http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/ecodiesel/
starting at $36,475
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I optioned a Tradesman with reg cab, 4x4, and ecodiesel and it was just over $33k. Then they had a couple incentives going that got it to $30k.
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http://www.cardebater.com/2014-ram-1500-ecodiesel-vs-2015-nissan-titan-diesel/
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I optioned a Tradesman with reg cab, 4x4, and ecodiesel and it was just over $33k. Then they had a couple incentives going that got it to $30k.
Well that's just bad advertisement then!
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I think I might have added tow package and a different color which had the MSRP just over $33k. Their site is not very intuitive
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Whats the increase from hemi to diesel?
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About $2800 I think
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Man I had trouble keeping under 50k, your 30k model must be complete POS lol
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I'm not much of a gadget or creature comforts person. I haven't had working AC in anything since the first summer I had my Jeep in 2005 haha
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http://www.cardebater.com/2014-ram-1500-ecodiesel-vs-2015-nissan-titan-diesel/
Agree 100%. The appeal for me here is something that can get 80% of the mileage of my car and tow my Jeep 70% as well as much truck (assuming it's running right which seems to be a 50/50 shot haha) with a 100k warranty for what I consider a reasonable monthly payment.
Definitely tempting.
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I know a few companies have been buying glider kits and throwing older rebuilt motor in them. ...
That's the way to go!
Those guys aren't running California after I think 2016 though. Fuckers are forcing repowers, new trucks, aftermarket filters...
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http://www.cardebater.com/2014-ram-1500-ecodiesel-vs-2015-nissan-titan-diesel/
Agree 100%. The appeal for me here is something that can get 80% of the mileage of my car and tow my Jeep 70% as well as much truck (assuming it's running right which seems to be a 50/50 shot haha) with a 100k warranty for what I consider a reasonable monthly payment.
Definitely tempting.
Yeah the 3.0 numbers are pretty impressive. Although if the titan really gets 24 that's doubling my current mpg's ::).
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My cousins ecoboost is getting 22 highway. Towing 7-8 k once a month is acceptable IMO.
I wouldn't buy one to haul for hire.
But loaded it's 50 grand
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He doesn't have trailering MPG #s because he only just bought a boat.
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My dad claims his 2009 Silverado 1500 Z71 with the 5.3/6l80e get 16 mpg pulling his pop up camper loaded, 24 mpg in the city's highway (speed limit 55, so he go no faster than 60). Overall average mpg of 14.5 since new, with ~32k miles on it now. He bought it early this year with just under 29k miles for ~$24k. The best part is his truck came with built in trailer brake controller.
Id avoid buying spankin brand new to avoid the huge value loss.
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2014 was the first year for the 3.0 diesel in the Rams, so not much choice there unfortunately.
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waiting a year is always a choice
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I dont regret buying a new truck, especially if you plan on keeping it for awhile. I ended up getting it for the same price of used I was looking at and super low interest. And all these incentives that pop up when your about to walk out lol. All depends on the deal you get. For 30k i dont think you can go wrong with that...
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Thinking about selling my truck once it's fixed, hoard cash until February or so, get my tax return back and throw as much cash down on one as I possibly can.
Wheel my Jeep locally and hog Jeepie to Rausch a couple times more this year. Be ready to go with a sweet new tow rig by Ice Breakers 2015.
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Ballahhhh!
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Plenty to wheel around you..
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Maybe all your truck needs to behave better is a sweet name like "JEEPIE" ?
Could also apply same sweet Name theory to Mike's Dog issue?
That's my third great idea for the week! Where do I collect my prize?
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I shall call him... petunia.
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Ha I call my Jeep "Jeep". Hannah named hers Jeepie. We do not possess any naming creativity. Interesting theory though, maybe it just needed to feel like it belonged? Hahaha
Test drove a quad cab diesel and sat in a reg cab. Has a little turbo lag, but scoots along pretty well. Merging into traffic I figured I was doing 50-55, then noticed I was passing everyone and looked down to see I was doing over 70. And of course it was nice to have tight steering, powerful brakes, air conditioning, the ability to have a conversation inside, etc. Reg cab has a decent amount of room behind back seats for bags and whatnot, Hannah and I agreed it would be plenty of room for clothes bags and stuff for trips. Camping gear would obviously need to go in the Jeep for wheeling trips, but that's what we've been doing anyway.
I liked it.
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My Jeep's name is Fiona, maybe that's why it overheats al the time :o
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YJ is eugene for obvious reasons...
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Glad this is going away.
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I can imagine that making some unpleasant noises
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JB Weld?
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$1/lb?
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$1/lb?
If only. Nvm
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This is got to be one of the sweetest rides out there!
I will give you $750 for it :)
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<$1/lb?
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Mr.Mindless - you have that extra camshaft w/ gear still on it? How much?
Look like I probably will be the one who'll help a lot to fix it. ::)
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still have hot rod camshaft w gear on it, stock camshaft no gear.
hot rod has a bolt-on retainer. There's probably some fancy locktite that would make me trust a pressed gear to stay on, not sure I'd trust it bare.
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Getting parted this weekend. Sweet engineer Excel spreadsheet I made of asking prices is about $10k. Wish me luck
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What you'll want for the lift pump, injectors, turbo, and possibly front axle? I at bare minimum need the housing with brackets intact on the D60.
Just let me know what you'll want for them and I'll see if I can come up with something to get them.
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Sent you a text
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that eco diesel has to be laughing all the way to the scrap yard haha
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Bye
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Guess that seals the deal!
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lots of autos at that yard!
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save the rear glass!
<chip?>
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That rear glass had a broken pane, I have a good one at home though