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dubt

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #165 on: January 15, 2013, 08:28:27 PM »
Same here with the p22 as the saying goes they can pry it out of my cold dead hands
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #166 on: January 16, 2013, 12:13:17 AM »
Could you guys have the treads machined off the end of the barrel if you wanted to be compliant ?
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #167 on: January 16, 2013, 08:59:14 AM »
Anyone happen to know if that background check process has been established yet? If I wanted to sell something, how do I make the check?
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« Reply #168 on: January 16, 2013, 09:23:36 AM »
Quote from: awl4928 on January 16, 2013, 12:13:17 AM
Could you guys have the treads machined off the end of the barrel if you wanted to be compliant ?

There is a little cap that fits over the threads. I think I'll just TIG it to the barrel with a tack on the bottom and call it good. If a LEO ever has a problem with that I'd be happy to take it to the SCOTUS.
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« Reply #169 on: January 16, 2013, 09:25:10 AM »
Quote from: FallibleXJ on January 16, 2013, 08:59:14 AM
Anyone happen to know if that background check process has been established yet? If I wanted to sell something, how do I make the check?

No, it's not. You want to sell a firearm? I would run it through an FFL just to be 100% legal.
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #170 on: January 16, 2013, 09:30:15 AM »
Quote from: KingtheZJ on January 16, 2013, 09:25:10 AM
Quote from: FallibleXJ on January 16, 2013, 08:59:14 AM
Anyone happen to know if that background check process has been established yet? If I wanted to sell something, how do I make the check?

No, it's not. You want to sell a firearm? I would run it through an FFL just to be 100% legal.

Kinda what I thought. Maybe I'll just start calling that number the FFLs use... and when they ask for my FFL number I'll just explain I don't have one but I still need to do a check :P
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #171 on: January 16, 2013, 09:35:02 AM »
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PRIVATE SALE OR DISPOSAL OF FIREARMS, RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS. 1.
 IN ADDITION TO ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS PURSUANT TO STATE AND FEDERAL LAW,
 ALL SALES, EXCHANGES OR DISPOSALS OF FIREARMS, RIFLES OR SHOTGUNS  SHALL
 BE  CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS SECTION UNLESS SUCH SALE, EXCHANGE
 OR DISPOSAL IS CONDUCTED BY A LICENSED IMPORTER,  LICENSED  MANUFACTURER
 OR  LICENSED  DEALER,  AS  THOSE TERMS ARE DEFINED IN 18 USC

S 922, WHEN
 SUCH SALE, EXCHANGE OR DISPOSAL IS CONDUCTED PURSUANT TO  THAT  PERSON'S
 FEDERAL  FIREARMS  LICENSE OR SUCH SALE, EXCHANGE OR DISPOSAL IS BETWEEN
 MEMBERS OF AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY. FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, "IMMEDIATE
 FAMILY" SHALL MEAN SPOUSES, DOMESTIC PARTNERS, CHILDREN  AND  STEP-CHIL
 DREN.
 2.  BEFORE  ANY SALE, EXCHANGE OR DISPOSAL PURSUANT TO THIS ARTICLE, A
 NATIONAL INSTANT CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK MUST BE COMPLETED BY A DEALER
 WHO CONSENTS TO CONDUCT SUCH CHECK, AND UPON COMPLETION  OF  SUCH  BACK
 GROUND  CHECK,  SHALL  COMPLETE  A  DOCUMENT, THE FORM OF WHICH SHALL BE
 APPROVED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT OF  STATE  POLICE,  THAT  IDENTIFIES  AND
 CONFIRMS THAT SUCH CHECK WAS PERFORMED.
 3.  ALL DEALERS SHALL MAINTAIN A RECORD OF SUCH TRANSACTIONS CONDUCTED
 PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION AND SUCH RECORD  SHALL  BE  MAINTAINED  ON  THE
 PREMISES MENTIONED AND DESCRIBED IN THE LICENSE AND SHALL BE OPEN AT ALL
 REASONABLE HOURS FOR INSPECTION BY ANY PEACE OFFICER, ACTING PURSUANT TO
 HIS OR HER SPECIAL DUTIES, OR POLICE OFFICER.
 4.  A  DEALER MAY REQUIRE THAT ANY SALE OR TRANSFER CONDUCTED PURSUANT
 TO THIS SECTION BE SUBJECT TO A FEE OF NOT TO  EXCEED  TEN  DOLLARS  PER
 TRANSACTION.
 5.  ANY  RECORD PRODUCED PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION AND ANY TRANSMISSION
 THEREOF TO ANY GOVERNMENT AGENCY SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED A PUBLIC RECORD
 FOR PURPOSES OF ARTICLE SIX OF THE PUBLIC OFFICERS LAW.

At least it sounds like it wont cost more than $10 from an FFL. Though I don't get the whole superintendent of state police bit. Sounds like we have to do the check, sign some papers, then send them off to get approved before we can make a sale... what a load of crap. Sounds quicker just to adopt someone then sell them the gun...
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« Reply #172 on: January 16, 2013, 09:48:21 AM »
The approval of each individual sale and the need to have a ccw renewed each 5 years by the superintendent is extremely concerning. That right there is where the restrictions will come. All of a sudden they will say "we don't approve the sale of any semi auto" or "we are not reissuing pistol permits"

Fawk. This. Bullshit.
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« Reply #173 on: January 16, 2013, 09:48:53 AM »
that's my full expectation.
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #174 on: January 16, 2013, 10:29:07 AM »
This may be a silly question but when does this go into effect? This morning?
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« Reply #175 on: January 16, 2013, 10:38:04 AM »
The way they rushed that shit through I bet immediate effect.

Usually there's a set date in the text of the legislation.
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #176 on: January 16, 2013, 10:39:35 AM »
Quote from: mr.mindless on January 16, 2013, 10:38:04 AM
The way they rushed that shit through I bet immediate effect.

Usually there's a set date in the text of the legislation.

Yea, I just noticed immediate in the bill...
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« Reply #177 on: January 16, 2013, 10:41:01 AM »
 "The bill will take effect immediately except where otherwise provided,"
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #178 on: January 16, 2013, 10:43:57 AM »
here is an idea, make it a law that if and only if you use your non registered or "improperly" sold or bought fire arm to commit a crime- be punishable... o wait....





stupid.
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #179 on: January 16, 2013, 10:46:15 AM »
Quote from: M4wdFab on January 16, 2013, 10:43:57 AM
stupid.

This sums it up pretty good.
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