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Harrison

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Time for Tons
« on: October 05, 2012, 02:24:38 PM »
I figure I will keep a thread going on here so I can tap into this wealth of knowledge.  ;D

Plans:
Ball Joint D60 front, 4.10s, lunchbox. Narrow 4" to 65" WMS. Keep my current 3 link.
C&C 14B rear (63" WMS), 4.10s, welded, simple 13 bolt shave. Chevy 3/4 ton discs.

Picked up a set of 36" Swampers on pre-Superduty Ford factory 8 lug aluminum wheels for cheap. Will run those until I'm sick of the ground clearance, then upgrade to something larger and regear to 5.38 down the road.

This is going to be a very budget minded build. The main objective is to get my Jeep into harder terrain without fear of breaking front shafts like it's my job. For where I'd like to be next year, 44/8.8 would have probably suited my purposes well, but I don't plan to stay there so tons it is. I'm hoping 36's, 4.10s, and 6.36:1 low ratio will be doable for a while (math says it should be close to where I'm at now).

I don't have many pictures to post, I'm hoping starting this thread will motivate me to do something in regards to this project that's worth of photographing.

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Re: Time for Tons
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2012, 02:27:00 PM »
First off... Smike mentioned re-splining shafts is relatively cheap. It appears that I have non-neckdown shafts so I'm hoping this is possible.

Does anyone have any idea where I could take/send my long side to have 4" whacked off and splines put back on?

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Re: Time for Tons
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2012, 02:30:02 PM »
weld the front, spend the locker money on 35 spline outers and drive slugs

do some bushmechanic welding and plate your ford nuckles

dont bother with shaving, thats what wheeling is for.




with your goals a stock form 60 is pretty stout, but seems like the WNO guys that run tons on 37"s ish at big dogs break more ford knuckles that shafts.


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Re: Time for Tons
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2012, 02:54:07 PM »
I'm keeping plates on this hog, so it's either welded front and lockouts or locker and drive flanges. Spencer found a dude on Pirate selling Lockrights for $305 or something.

Barnes4x4 sells a 14b cover that's pre-shaved. You cut off the bottom to match it, weld a plate on and call it a day. I watched Ryan wedge his lip a couple times at Big Dogs with 40"s...

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Re: Time for Tons
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2012, 03:12:42 PM »
yes,the ford knucks are notorious for breaking (read: i bought an axle and didnt look close enough and the driver side is cracked :mad3:). it seems that generally that is when you are running high steer though, and he has BJs

we are both keeping them on the road. so locker + drive flanges or welded +lockouts would be needed.
i'm going with welded and lockouts now because its cheaper. when i gear i'll go to locker and flanges.

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Re: Time for Tons
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2012, 04:03:29 PM »
thoughts:

Hope the lockouts are schrong, welded is lots more stress on them (cumulative time-wise) than a locker since it never unloads. unlocking is probably a two person job too to saw the wheel back n forth to unload the splines.

balljoint knuckles don't fail as often it seems. and with low steel my Ford KPs have been "fine" so far
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Re: Time for Tons
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2012, 04:07:46 PM »
Hope the lockouts are schrong

35 spline warn premiums?

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Re: Time for Tons
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2012, 04:15:00 PM »
you know I broke one... :shrug:
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Re: Time for Tons
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2012, 04:32:49 PM »
special case









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Re: Time for Tons
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2012, 04:37:27 PM »
weld the front, spend the locker money on 35 spline outers

This.  And lockouts.  With spares.  = cheap fuse.

Or change to slugs for wheeling trips.
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Re: Time for Tons
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2012, 04:51:50 PM »
Hmmm. I was planning to run a lunchbox on the stock 30 spline outers and stock lockouts. I was thinking it was reasonable to run them with 36s. I have no interest in running 35 spline lockouts, so when I do that upgrade it will be getting drive flanges.

Who has broke a 30 spline outer? What size tires were you running? I tore the 60 down last night and must say I was not impressed with the outers when I laid one of my many broken D30 shafts next to it...

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Re: Time for Tons
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2012, 05:21:32 PM »
i cant imagine you will have any issues with stock shafts, new joints and 36"s



i ran stock shafts on my CJ5 and the buggy for a while with <200hp  42"s   

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Time for Tons
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2012, 06:20:15 PM »
I think I will stick with the lunchbox plan then for street manners. I will leave it until last to order and if Big Dogs is around the corner and I need the money for gas... The welder may come out.

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Time for Tons
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2012, 06:21:20 PM »
Tires. $275 for all four on rims.

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Time for Tons
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2012, 11:09:55 PM »
Looks like a score on the tires.

I forgot you guys aren't doing 38s+, even stock 30sp outers and lockouts will probably be fine.

I broke both my 30sp outers at once doing a front dig. First shafts I broke, stock inners lasted a long time after that.
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