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Re: Land Rover 109
« Reply #225 on: November 22, 2016, 09:12:55 AM »
hard time finding or hard time measuring?

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Re: Land Rover 109
« Reply #226 on: November 22, 2016, 09:16:55 AM »
Race guys would have more knowledge but I would put the shaft about 40% compression and 60% droop since this isn't a high speed machine. Adjust bumps and limit straps accordingly.
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Re: Land Rover 109
« Reply #227 on: November 22, 2016, 09:22:28 AM »
what would you end up with for extended length if you just size it to let the bump stops do their work? Something too short or something that allows too much droop? If the latter, I'd run a center limit strap to keep the driveshaft happy and go about my day.
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Re: Land Rover 109
« Reply #228 on: November 22, 2016, 09:41:40 AM »
I'd run a center limit strap to keep the driveshaft happy and go about my day.

I had to do this on the Willys.
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Re: Land Rover 109
« Reply #229 on: November 22, 2016, 09:45:31 AM »
hard time finding or hard time measuring?

I can measure, cant spell

I'm starting from scratch.. these springs are way taller than anything offered off the shelf.
bump stops I guess will need to be adjusted down.. how do I factor load carrying ability into that?

I know this is all rather simple stuff.. just don't want to miss anything
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Re: Land Rover 109
« Reply #230 on: November 22, 2016, 09:46:09 AM »
109's come with limit straps and mounting points from the factory.... mine were never present since purchase..
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Re: Land Rover 109
« Reply #231 on: November 22, 2016, 09:52:14 AM »
short version on starting from scratch:

figure out your maximum compression clearance and maximum droop clearance.

in your case droop limited by driveshaft to frame, compression limited by bumpstops or tire clearance or driveshaft to frame or axle to fuel tank or whatever
it's [obviously] best to have bumpstops hit before shocks bottom, so extend if needed.

I'd then look at compressed shock lengths half an inch shorter than that, and see where that puts me for droop, and I'd probably center limit for the driveshaft to keep additional flex available for articulation if it's any sort of significant difference
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Re: Land Rover 109
« Reply #232 on: November 22, 2016, 10:02:43 AM »
short version on starting from scratch:

figure out your maximum compression clearance and maximum droop clearance.
jack on the pumpkin, ass in the air?  Frame on stands axle at drop?

in your case droop limited by driveshaft to frame, compression limited by bumpstops or tire clearance or driveshaft to frame or axle to fuel tank or whatever
it's [obviously] best to have bumpstops hit before shocks bottom, so extend if needed.
with the absence of bumpstops I should focus on propshaft?  tires will stuff no issue..
load carrying capacity is then determined by spring ability and eventually bumpstop height?


I'd then look at compressed shock lengths half an inch shorter than that, and see where that puts me for droop, and I'd probably center limit for the driveshaft to keep additional flex available for articulation if it's any sort of significant difference
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Re: Land Rover 109
« Reply #233 on: November 22, 2016, 10:05:15 AM »
don't I need to stuff weight in the back to get the max compression value?
weight of the vehicle alone I think is where I went wrong last time around and why I'm down a shock mount...

good thing rock salt is in season around here....
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Re: Land Rover 109
« Reply #234 on: November 22, 2016, 10:07:42 AM »
jack on the pumpkin, ass in the air?  Frame on stands axle at drop?

tape measure in hand, A-B=C style whether at ride height or on a lift.

IMO it's usually not practical to get all the way to full stuff in a static, in-the-shop situation with leaf springs.
RTI ramp or similar can let you watch for what gets close and where you need to stick said tape measure



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with the absence of bumpstops I should focus on propshaft?  tires will stuff no issue..
load carrying capacity is then determined by spring ability and eventually bumpstop height?

yup & yup
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Re: Land Rover 109
« Reply #235 on: April 27, 2017, 08:33:48 AM »
such a blast to drive.... even with improper length shocks.. ::)

if it weren't for kids and winter there would be no reason to own a real car
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Re: Land Rover 109
« Reply #236 on: April 27, 2017, 09:14:15 AM »
no real car is so fun

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Re: Land Rover 109
« Reply #237 on: July 21, 2018, 02:48:05 PM »
Need to upgrade the rear seats to real seatbelts..   latch system for car seat won’t cut it anymore..  the boys are big..
I never wanted a red car.. always thought they were tacky and common...
I now have 4 very not common cars and they are all red.. :o