Hauling Heavy- Recreational Vehicles

[M4wdFab]

i dont know if it was my right to not let the DOT officer search my trailer. 


search results of your trailer would be same as my trailer.  stickers on race car- commerce. 

[Wingman]

You can certainly refuse, 4th amendment and all.  It may delay your adventure while they attempt to develop a case for obtaining a search warrant, if desired.

[mr.mindless]

Is there ever a time that refusal goes smoothly? I have the impression: rare but not completely unheard of.


Tapatalking in traffic

[Nick]

we should really try this since we now have a legit heavy RV in the family.  I still cant find if NY law carriers to Federal and all states.  That would be nice to know.  the commercial plate pickup thing still kills us. 

Recreational Vehicle or “R” endorsement - Recreational vehicles, with or without
air brakes, are not defined as commercial vehicles. You can apply for an “R”
endorsement for your Class D, Class E or non-CDL Class C driver license to allow
you to operate a recreational vehicle (RV) with a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of over
26,000 pounds (11,794 kg). An “R” endorsement also allows you to drive a rental
vehicle with a length of more than 40 feet for the transportation of personal
household products.
To get an “R” endorsement: Submit a completed Application for Driver License
or ID Card (MV-44), indicating a license amendment, to a state or county motor
vehicle office; pay a permit fee, which is valid for a maximum of two road tests;
and pass a road test in the size and type of vehicle you will drive. No written test
is required. For the road test, a driver who is at least 21 with a license valid for the
vehicle you will drive during the test must accompany you. (e.g., a driver license
with an “R” endorsement or the correct Commercial Driver License). The road test
will take approximately 15 minutes and will include turns, intersections and backing
the vehicle to the curb. When you pass the road test, you must go to a motor vehicle
office and pay the required fee to complete the license amendment process.

Just get your cdl a and take all the questions out of it. Problem solved and now you have one other thing people may need and a opportunity to make money.

Nicks approach works only within NYS.  travling over states lines you need trip permits (70-140$ each) and IFTA and im sure other hassels

Because its all BS. Just like the DOT numbers. It's yet again another way to wring money out of us.
So
I bring up the question again...
Why the big worry?
Have any of us ever been pulled over, forcefully weighed and ticketed?
Mike mike doesn't  count because he is for hire.
And Nick F is hauling construction equipment that is for hire.

I'm referring to transporting unregistered and or untitled offroad vehicles. Regardless of whether they are in a  competition or not.

Just Run it.

Now what Erik?   

I think that trip permit stuff only if you are driving a vehicle like a dump truck in another state.  Me and my buddy almost got in trouble with that last year on the way home from buying a dump truck and my 20 ton trailer down in Maryland. If you were in your private vehicle or RV I'm sure they couldn't say anything just because you got your cdl.

[JEEPWERX]

So why then didn't NYS DMV feel it necessary to mention to me at the time we registered our privately owned 33k lb RV that we needed a special licence to drive it?

Funny that JT, the guy we bought it from owned it for years.
Lived in it full time.
Traveled across the country for 3 years hitting aprox 30 Jeep shows per year, all with a 13-6"  Tall × 38' Long Tag Trailer in tow with at least, 2 fully Decaled JEEP JKs inside. Not to mention his 10k dollar Nemesis awning, Nemesis flags, JW Speaker banners, Etc. inside. He never once had anyone, in any state, over all those miles, even look twice at his set up. Let alone pull him over and demand to open up the trailer.

Times are changing I guess. We better play nice!


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[Wingman]

Is there ever a time that refusal goes smoothly? I have the impression: rare but not completely unheard of.

Not usually.  It really depends on how badly they want to get access.  Sometimes, the po-po just have to stuff it and send you on your way.  They will typically delay you for as long as possible and make your life as inconvenient as possible.  Document everything you can any way you can for potential use later.

[etk300ex]

Mountain bike... 

[orange anchor]

and a GTI

[M4wdFab]

The FMCSA site sucks

[M4wdFab]

heading to the DMV tonight

have everything printed out and highlighted so a 5 yr old can understand.  only unknown is :

How do I apply for passenger class plates?

You must apply in person at a DMV office.

You must surrender your commercial plates (be sure to remove frames and fasteners), and bring your

a completed Vehicle Registration / Title Application (MV-82) - make sure to complete section 6, question 4
proof of NYS liability insurance 1
the title certificate
proofs of identity and age 2
payment for the fee  to register as a Passenger Class ($28.75)



there is only 5 sections on MV-82   

[mr.mindless]

section 4 question 4 is what that should say.

I don't remember that question being in a different location since I've been here, but I don't have any old copies

[M4wdFab]

section 4 wont apply to me because i wont be registering a PU any more, its a modified PU


these forms and information are so terrible. 

[KingtheZJ]

Just be aware that with your passenger plates there would be no GVW listed on the registration. The only weight listed on the registration is 6001. I think this is the only issue with how that is interpreted, especially in other states.

[M4wdFab]

took two trips and 200$ but done. 


2014 Ram Suburban

weighed, re classed, registered.  no commercial plates

[KingtheZJ]

How does Tim do it?
Semi would need to be business owned for tax reasons, no? Seems you're definitely "commercial". Also stickers on trailer like Smike noted would be an issue. Jeeps are not stickered/ wrapped. But most rolling that way are.

Why are we jumping though hoops to avoid tickets and no one else has issues?