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Title: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2012, 03:58:55 PM
Just thinking aloud....


if i get two fabricated 9 housings one off set to the left and one off set to the right, i can build any off set diff car, front or rear engine, passenger diffs or driver diffs on both sides.... hmmm
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2012, 04:02:43 PM
offsetting both diffs?

isn't the 9" pattern reversible, too, so there is no right or left drop, just an offset (ignoring drain and fill holes I guess)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2012, 04:09:37 PM
thats what im forgetting, if the pattern is flippable, ill have to look into that.

big choice is going to be spendy light 9's or do 14's   i have to do some reading on both, but one will happen.



ya i was thinking pass diffs but after Ryans comment nothing says i couldnt flip the other 60 i have, weld on solid C's corrected and run it.  new car will stay 4.10s in 1:2    70-80mph is plenty fast in the rocks  :)



Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2012, 04:18:16 PM
lots of load on 4.10s apparently? can't believe Rywan's broke.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on June 04, 2012, 04:18:28 PM
The TrueHi9 is one I always thought looked damn good. Prices are rough though as expected.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2012, 04:20:48 PM
I would never ever run a hi-9. ever.

debatable reliability issues and SHIT support issues.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2012, 04:21:29 PM
With some shock tuning and good steering I don't think it would be too used up and would be a top contender. You can really drive these days, no doubt about it.

So am I fired? :)

571 might do the last RCrocs race with the motor as is.  im not going to put another one in it right now.

you are fired for 572.  :'(

plan to start bending tube in 2 weeks or so.   Time to build the car i should have built, the way i should have built it.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on June 04, 2012, 04:24:34 PM
I would never ever run a hi-9. ever.

debatable reliability issues and SHIT support issues.

Really? I must be reading the wrong stuff... whoops
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on June 04, 2012, 04:24:50 PM
IDK, its all about the Benjamins.  ;D

Rausch style racing, would the 14b hold up better than the fabricated housings?

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2012, 04:27:16 PM
if i was going to run 9's id run the kind you find in junk yards, and have 2 spares.  if it really was an issue, id get rid of them.


my thought with running the 14's the wrong- it way would be as strong if not stronger than a 60
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2012, 04:30:29 PM
unsprung weight is the biggest performance killer in high speed and in "rock bouncing" 


going 9's would be a huge weight benefit taking a ton off the car 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on June 04, 2012, 04:34:42 PM
6.0 motor? 4L80E?
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2012, 04:37:55 PM
Fancy hubs can save almost as much as the housing, but seems silly to put bling hubs on a junkyard lump.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on June 04, 2012, 04:43:57 PM
Just out of curiosity, anyone running rcv's in ultra4? Glanced at my "rock bouncing" calender on the wall... 99% of those guys have em. Carrying entire spares (if you managed to break one) would obviously be next to impossible though.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2012, 04:56:38 PM
another 5.3, and a BUILT th400 will be my flavor in the new car.


i dont need any more power than i have now, ill keep my yukon super shafts and make them stronger with a lighter car.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2012, 05:20:30 PM
some do run them, but it seems most don't break chromo 60 shafts to begin with.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on June 04, 2012, 05:40:36 PM
if you really wanted to win a race you would just buy a retired campbell chassis, duh
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2012, 06:33:03 PM
why buy when i could copy in 3 days



ryans chassis is scary close to what i copied except what he asked to be changed.
the #8 car is what ill copy.  more than enough in one of the crawl writups to knock it out.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Nick on June 04, 2012, 06:38:21 PM
Shrong!!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2012, 06:39:46 PM
may/june 2011 crawl has stupid info on it.  easy. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on June 04, 2012, 07:06:26 PM
this one?
(http://ultra4racing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/3-campbell-cars.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2012, 07:07:15 PM
linky? google-fu is failing me, "8" is hard to search for.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2012, 07:07:56 PM
that seems likely, way to do better than I Troyer!
Title: 572
Post by: Ryan on June 04, 2012, 07:08:40 PM
That's Nicks that was at SEMA ? It is nice, small and light looking.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2012, 07:11:50 PM
I think that's the SFA car Shannon won in that Nick races now. Where's Racerpedia when we need him??
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2012, 07:22:08 PM
yes, thats it


#8 car


112" wheel base
158" overall length
65" tall
18" belly
80" track
3300 lbs
510hp
36x19 ron davis dual pass
9's and 40s under it

2" main chassis, 1.75 else where
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on June 04, 2012, 07:23:44 PM
i started with #8 then googled ultra 4 #8 car
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2012, 07:26:16 PM
interesting how different the results are for that than they were for "ultra4 car 8"
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2012, 08:12:19 PM
get off your mice guys and build some fucking race cars





 :o

 8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on June 04, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
i would but im waiting on a guy who cant make up his mind if he's gonna sell his c/o's or not
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2012, 08:41:31 PM
if that guy is me you are shit out of luck.  they are jack stands under scrap as far as i am concerned. New Co's are going under new car.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on June 04, 2012, 08:44:53 PM
OK, so im waiting for a guy to sell me his jackstands then
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2012, 09:02:15 PM
just talk to ryan for new shit, mine are worth a grand as is.  thats it
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2012, 09:05:14 PM
I pay scrap prices...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 07, 2012, 11:36:36 PM
http://www.gmtruckhq.com/lsx-tech/ls-engine-oil-pans-all-them-2720.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on June 08, 2012, 07:40:28 AM
you told me at the RCQ that 9s were garbage?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 08, 2012, 08:17:57 AM
they are, and id be kicking my self with them.... but still have decisions to make.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on June 08, 2012, 09:33:29 AM
14b front and rear.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 08, 2012, 09:47:02 AM
my opinions on the 14b aren't what they once were after talking axles with Startzel at EMS. Their track record surely is what it is though.

the points of interest, articulated poorly compared to a guy who lives and breathes axles.
- the 3rd bearing is a pure bandaid. the first 14b didn't have it and wasted pinion bearings constantly because the spacing is simply too close
- the 3rd bearing is usually hosed when a 14b is torn down. It's undersized for the job required of it

He strongly prefers a Dana 70 center section. In my eyes you surely can't beat a 14b for ease of setup among the big boy axles, and as I said their track record really really doesn't suck - they're just really not actually the holy grail, unfortunately.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 08, 2012, 09:54:20 AM
i have take 3 well used street truck14 bolts apart and everything in them looked brand new.    I guess if i cared id take the buggy rear apart because i dont think we know ANYONE in our extended circle that has used one harder than I in the last 2 years.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on June 08, 2012, 10:03:53 AM
Is that the front rear or the rear rear???  :P
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 08, 2012, 10:04:51 AM
true that. I'd be interested. It would be an interesting conversation for the next time I'm at EMS too - and then maybe I'd get to put the 14b back to holy grail status :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on June 08, 2012, 10:35:43 AM
back rear
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on June 08, 2012, 05:01:58 PM
why are you considering new axles,the ones you have ,have never let you down other than the knuckles of coarse
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 08, 2012, 05:04:57 PM
everything is rapped and wrong
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on June 08, 2012, 05:08:17 PM
Going to make a stereotypical custom 8 into 1 collector for this rear engine high horsepower hawg?  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 08, 2012, 06:45:38 PM
ear plugs are defiantly on the race prep list :)


i actually almost just started on the sub tonight.  but grabbed some paper and my key board to work some details out.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 08, 2012, 07:55:04 PM
i cant find anything bigger than like a 27"x15" core radiator thats off the shelf


any other places than summit and speedway?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on June 08, 2012, 08:53:48 PM
http://www.dillonradiator.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_2000000&products_id=200000007
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on June 08, 2012, 09:11:05 PM
jegs,jcwhitney
Title: 572
Post by: Ryan on June 08, 2012, 09:11:42 PM
Try searching NASCAR radiators
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on June 08, 2012, 09:32:46 PM
Some 36"x19" here

http://www.crracing.com/radiators/off-road-radiators
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on June 08, 2012, 09:53:03 PM
14B fronts are for babies   :)


Dana 80

http://www.rme4x4.com/showthread.php?83182-DANA-80-front-axle-build

(http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt331/SWALLDOG/newfrontend/DANA80FRONT148.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 08, 2012, 11:46:36 PM
that looks awful big, random, and fragile   
Title: 572
Post by: etk300ex on June 09, 2012, 07:53:09 AM
Those knuckles do not look schrong
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 09, 2012, 01:45:43 PM
Hope they're only half done.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on June 09, 2012, 02:14:07 PM
Apparently noone read the build?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: cracker on June 09, 2012, 02:19:11 PM
Heck no we just look at pictures
Title: 572
Post by: etk300ex on June 09, 2012, 02:35:03 PM
Seriously who has time for that
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 09, 2012, 03:22:09 PM
50$ from J&J added a ton of things to the parts pile for the new car
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on June 09, 2012, 03:59:52 PM
The Guy who had a random day off and drank most of his breakfast and lunch apparently .....lol. He had tons of gussets on top of that pic. That was just the placement steel.  Still not sold, it was ridiculously huge and barely fit in a 22.5 rim but looked shronger than that pic.
Title: 572
Post by: etk300ex on June 09, 2012, 04:18:31 PM
Smike took 50 bucks out of a wad of money and told dude it was all he had lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on June 09, 2012, 04:54:36 PM
That's funny
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 09, 2012, 05:22:48 PM
Smike took 50 bucks out of a wad of money and told dude it was all he had lol
rofl
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 09, 2012, 06:47:49 PM
true story
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on June 10, 2012, 10:59:53 AM
that looks awful big, random, and fragile
Those knuckles do not look schrong
Hope they're only half done.


I guess I made my point.     I would not take the time to build some crazy front one of a kind axle only to have it break.

The only weakness I see left in a HP60 is the Ring and Pinion.   Replacement parts are off the shelf. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on June 10, 2012, 12:16:11 PM
Smike took 50 bucks out of a wad of money and told dude it was all he had lol
ive learned at j&j just hand smike some money and sit back and let him do ALL the talkin
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 10, 2012, 01:29:08 PM
Bargain hard there, and start at half what you'd feel good paying. Sometimes they'll just take it.
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 10, 2012, 07:20:12 PM
Well this is no good. I appear to not want smike to have an LM7. I didn't see that this oil pan has a small crack nor make sure it spun. Which it doesn't. Fuck me.

Guess I've gotten too used to just being a transporter.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 10, 2012, 07:23:12 PM
I cant get this thing to turn over, it is seized
there is oil / sand / sludge behind the throttle blade
the oil pan is clearly cracked where the oil filter is crushed from some sort of impact
the main crank / balance pulley has been destroyed with a gear puller of some sort and appears to have been re assembled- its hosed.
one of the idler pulleys and stud is missing
the starter motor and nurl bolts are missing
4 coil pack to plug wires are missing


cut wires on harness plugs, but i guess that was shown in pics
missing alternator as advertised
4 broken bolts in driver head as advertised
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 10, 2012, 07:33:42 PM
sounds like a good core motor...
want to order a reman?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 10, 2012, 07:53:54 PM
if i wanted to spend 5 times $$ id go with a different platform.



its just so annoying to be nickle and dimed with all the little stuff.  Even if i had a crate motor sitting in front of me, it would be twice what i just paid for this hunk to make it "Complete" 



99' 5.3 LM7

i am guessing somewhere around 1800$ for a short block, 3000 for a long block, and 5K for a complete crate to drop in and bolt up no issues.   


That's also leaving out EMS
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 10, 2012, 07:58:44 PM
I'm sure core charge is more, but $600 for a "core" condition motor is pretty shitty too.

For the absolutely no good it does, I'm sorry I didn't do a thorough inspection. .
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 10, 2012, 08:41:44 PM
gimme  year make and model for shits and giggles..
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 10, 2012, 08:49:07 PM
doesnt one of the express vans I have have this motor in it?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 10, 2012, 08:56:03 PM
99' chevy 1500 5.3  is what my ECM is flashed to run stand alone.


Not sure if express motors are 5.3 or 6.0

i was hoping for simplicity to stay with the same 5.3 platform for the new car since they appear to grow on ebay trees. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 10, 2012, 08:59:34 PM
what are the year and model of the express vans, looks like a lot of them come with the 4.8l V8
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 10, 2012, 09:16:09 PM
Someone was telling me good things about the 4.8. Jake, come to think of it. His drag racer buddies build from them, saying they're stouter than the 5.3.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on June 10, 2012, 09:17:53 PM
WTF? Getting your money back I assume?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Nick on June 10, 2012, 09:26:25 PM
Where is the link to the thread where smike calls the guy a summmm beach!??!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on June 11, 2012, 07:05:24 AM
"I have never fired the motor but it is free, and there is no doubt in my mind it runs, motor is "as is".
"
he obviously lied but you know where he lives so lets go lynch his ass
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 11, 2012, 08:16:21 AM
99' chevy 1500 5.3  is what my ECM is flashed to run stand alone.


Not sure if express motors are 5.3 or 6.0

i was hoping for simplicity to stay with the same 5.3 platform for the new car since they appear to grow on ebay trees.

Make Chevrolet
Model Year 2003
Model Express
Engine Series V-8 5.3L
Fuel Type Gasoline
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 11, 2012, 08:21:14 AM
already talked to the guy its going back 6/21

nothing i can do with it
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 11, 2012, 08:25:59 AM
2003–2007 Chevrolet Express/GMC Savana  is the right LM7 block


what do you have arie?  any thing wrecked?  or running with a good 2wd trans?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 11, 2012, 08:30:07 AM
worht taking a look at..

UCI Norfolks van... hit a deer i think... rad smashed engine looks good from what i have seen...
still all there..

(http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee343/rejeep/Rochester-20120503-00451.jpg)
(http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee343/rejeep/Rochester-20120503-00453.jpg)
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 11, 2012, 08:44:00 AM
already talked to the guy its going back 6/21
good
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on June 11, 2012, 09:20:04 AM
6-lug on the 2500, seems odd.

Something is different with van motors, maybe just wiring could be intake differences, not sure more research needed.
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 11, 2012, 09:45:27 AM
6 lug is weird.

Oil sump is sometimes different. And on second look I remember that one. Rad is pushed back pretty hard, I'd double check accessory brackets but I think it's okay.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 11, 2012, 09:53:00 AM
its a LM7 motor...
if it runs you can pay me something for it..
if not just wasted some time..
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 11, 2012, 11:14:45 AM
idea on miles? 


motor and trans were probably functional if it wrecked, or was it driven into the ground after it was wrecked?





Ill make the whole van go away if you want
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 11, 2012, 11:33:24 AM
high miles...
but deff driving... only reason took off the road was due to the hit..

I can have mile bring the van down to you
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 11, 2012, 01:01:18 PM
2003 Express van, with a 5.3L engine and 4L60-E transmission.  Probably should build a TH400 or get a 4l80E



I am game Arie, but id really have to know the financials on the complete van whether its a $3500 as is pile or its a 800$ as is pile....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 11, 2012, 01:21:40 PM
deff the later of the 2 numbers would be just fine...
title included... so the scrappers are happy...

I just want to make sure its a runner before anything else..
your money is no good to me/Hahn unless its for something worth money..
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 11, 2012, 02:54:46 PM
is this thing local?  If mike could drop it, awesome. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 11, 2012, 03:03:14 PM
@ carter...

whenever mike can grab it is ok with me...

my MJ and CJ just need to catch the ride up....

WOW ... you really dont get emails
@ work.... I would hate to work in a dead zone..
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 11, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
gmail goes to my phone, i dont carry my phone at work for many reasons.  gotcha.


ya ill take it if it runs and shifts
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on June 11, 2012, 04:52:08 PM
Fire up that BIG OLE VAN MOTOR!!!  8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUfYwCBzLGQ
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 12, 2012, 10:40:09 PM
http://rochester.craigslist.org/pts/3068329458.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 13, 2012, 10:13:40 AM
massive ruff stuff order placed
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 13, 2012, 10:54:26 AM
Everybody loves a VAN MOTOR!

94 is useless to me as a Dakota spare. OBD I. Otherwise coulda been a good trade for Express parts.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 13, 2012, 11:07:13 AM
Mike.. the willys is done
want to do a carter run today and bring smike back the 2003?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on June 13, 2012, 12:29:35 PM
That van should have 16" rims, and 6 lug. hmmm

trailer rim upgrade as well....
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 13, 2012, 12:45:22 PM
Mike.. the willys is done
want to do a carter run today and bring smike back the 2003?
gotta be after work

Trade for some lights? I need to make a list. It's short.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 13, 2012, 12:46:03 PM
i find it funny you guys think i dont have 3 ways already planned to make money on anything i buy or scrap, as plan B



it leads me to believe that i am just better at this game then some of you. haha




No the link was not for a dakota spare, and 16" 6 lug rums off the van if it shows up are already spoken for.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 13, 2012, 01:06:01 PM
Mike.. the willys is done
want to do a carter run today and bring smike back the 2003?
gotta be after work

Trade for some lights? I need to make a list. It's short.

I can leave keys for Van @ scottys with willys and MJ keys
I dont mind them sitting outside overnight.. ill just move them inside in the AM
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 13, 2012, 01:07:40 PM
im going to be doing some manual labor acorss the street...
so if you need me or want to finalize a place shoot me a text or email
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 13, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
ill be in the shop tonight finishing up a skid
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 14, 2012, 12:13:16 AM
this van in the dark looks like its got some good potential
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 14, 2012, 08:32:11 AM
its a VA vehicle.. so the nasty should be minimal..
I know the repair estimate was for body work...(just looked at the file)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 14, 2012, 08:46:24 AM
ya there is 4 grand easy i bet to make this thing a usable fragel van with all the doors, bumpers, front end F'd


ill drag it in the shop tonight and see if i can get it running and then go from there.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 15, 2012, 02:00:37 AM
drove the 03 express van into the shop tonight, she is a 256K machine!



shame to cut her up its in descent shape.

what is the status of the title arie? available to put her back on the road?


lots o lights on the dash, gona hook up a tech2 before i go through pulling it.



trans looks coco puff fluid, motor seems to have no bad noises though
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 15, 2012, 07:49:04 AM
clean and clear....


I dont think its worth a flip if thats what your thinking
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on June 15, 2012, 08:38:45 AM
I foresee a knocking 5.3 swap into the van and a for sale sign in the window...  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Nick on June 15, 2012, 08:42:35 AM
Me and troy came to the conclusion that the knocking is in smikes head
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on June 15, 2012, 08:59:35 AM
i concur with dr. nick
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 15, 2012, 09:05:46 AM
i put it in gear to swap bays its like a snare drum
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 15, 2012, 09:07:52 AM
hmm.. snare is usually a bad lifter,
Timpani is usually a knock
 ;D
Title: 572
Post by: Ryan on June 15, 2012, 09:12:45 AM
Run it until it blows.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on June 15, 2012, 09:19:06 AM
build a new buggy mikemike wants to drive the old one till its gone
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 15, 2012, 10:27:40 AM
mike mike will have to run alot of mazda3's to get into the driver seat
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on June 15, 2012, 10:30:03 AM
It could be a rental, Mike, Matt, ALex, or anyone could rent it for a race. Hahahahahah
Title: 572
Post by: etk300ex on June 15, 2012, 10:36:09 AM
572 trailer?

(http://img.tapatalk.com/aefeb057-4855-52ab.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 15, 2012, 11:58:28 AM
Rental with 12k deposit, and 3K prep fee, sure
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 15, 2012, 05:44:32 PM
more to the pile....

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on June 15, 2012, 11:24:05 PM
that cant be all of a $900 order,wheres the rest of it
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 16, 2012, 01:23:36 AM
check your math there troy, that is all of it.


lots o 1.25" heims adds up quick.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on June 16, 2012, 07:41:17 AM
oooo, shiney!  :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 17, 2012, 10:07:14 PM
I'm gone most of this week if you wanted to meet up for paperwork.. I know you work fast.. Didn't want a hulk sitting there longer then my MJ
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 17, 2012, 10:16:11 PM
ill probably pull the motor out next week.  seems to run fine.  ill part a few things out.  Dont really need paper work, but sure.  whats left will end cut up in the back of a pickup.




Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on June 17, 2012, 11:35:23 PM
i need to take some time to get over to M4 and see whats a brewing.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 30, 2012, 10:43:47 PM
express van cut up, monday will be a scrap day!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 03, 2012, 10:07:20 AM
Have on the shelf:

5.3 motor
4l60e trans
Ford 205 case
axles
rear disc brackets
2.5Co's
480' of 1.75" tube
6 pairs of 1.25 heims
6 pairs f 7/8" heims
PSC 2.5 x 8 ram
drive train bushing mounts
2 volvo fans
brake / gas assemblies / booster MC's
KRTS on H2s
Aluminum for roof
2" carrier bearing
drive shaft parts almost
rear mirror
2 sway bumps
exhaust parts
yellow top
gazilion 3/8" link tabs


Need:
ECM flash
radiator
8:1 exhaust hehehee
fuel cell
orbital
hydro lines
seat
harness
trans cooler
steering cooler
link material
MS disco
knuckles / arms / front shafts/drive slugs/stage8's
rear disk hardware
wheel / column
winch
horn
lights
gages
Belly HDPE
GPS
window nets



not running a sway bar
not running a spare tire
Title: Re: 572
Post by: awl4928 on July 03, 2012, 10:23:55 AM
No spare tire?   Are you planning to.just drive back to the pits on a whooped tire?
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 03, 2012, 10:26:11 AM
8:1? I'm not rec wheeling with this pile ;)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on July 03, 2012, 10:28:01 AM
I think you need to run a sway bar and shorter shocks, at least on the rear trailing arms.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 03, 2012, 01:45:34 PM
trophy truck style
i am with MaxD on swaybars
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 04, 2012, 08:34:12 AM
stage 8's for a 60 are now 62$ a side, dam
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 04, 2012, 09:15:47 AM
reached out to a few custom radiator manufactures today, see how that goes.


trying to get a 36x20x4 built
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 04, 2012, 01:58:30 PM
how close to a stock 2nd gen Cummins 4 core is that? seems near-ish but the Mopar part may be taller
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 05, 2012, 01:30:03 PM
spare oil pan $60 OBO; kanukistan


http://throttlehappy.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=3914&pid=26495&st=0&#entry26495
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 05, 2012, 01:31:14 PM
also noted the other motor broke free and supposedly looks good
http://www.rc4x4.org/rcforum/index.php?topic=17128.0
Title: Re: 572
Post by: carchameleon on July 05, 2012, 01:55:17 PM
didn't you get that motor for 600?  he relisted it & upped the price?
interesting
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 05, 2012, 02:16:19 PM
Had to spend to get the pan fixed I guess? Hah
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 05, 2012, 02:20:51 PM
you never get what you ask, and if you do its more than you needed to sell it for.


an alternator and serp belt appeared also.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on July 11, 2012, 10:02:07 AM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/552472_3126844424609_1823347501_n.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 11, 2012, 10:12:26 AM
Those pivots are above centerline and I don't see anything else holding the link upright. that's a lot of effort put forth to have floppy links poor control and be beating the shit out of the shock eyes.

FAIL.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on July 11, 2012, 10:43:56 AM
Same problem here?

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/321350_240580432650724_4244694_n.jpg)
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 11, 2012, 10:55:24 AM
No. Draw a line between the centerline of the link joints. Shock bolts should be at or below that line. Fist pic are WELL above, second look same or lower.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2012, 12:34:22 PM
pics blocked
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on July 16, 2012, 02:33:46 PM
http://albany.craigslist.org/boa/3143027373.html not color but a good unit and a good price.

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 23, 2012, 06:40:33 PM
i really just need to commit to my summit cart and start building this thing.  killing me this week, going back and fourth.  i am at the breaking point of parts on the shelf already absorbed cost that would make 571 just about where it should be to kick ass, or start over and doo it ALLL right HD shrong single suicide style
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on July 23, 2012, 08:14:18 PM
Take the winter and do it slow?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 23, 2012, 09:29:04 PM
doing things slow just takes up space and costs me money

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: Nick on July 23, 2012, 09:37:21 PM
I think you are missing some tires
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 23, 2012, 09:44:55 PM
missing a few things.  really going to be hard to keep the wheelbase i wanted with a 205 if i go modern trans  a th350 old school short tail again would help, or a mated case which i really dont want to do. 

front shaft will be short, rear three link will be tight, not nearly enough room for a cell and tire like i thought with most similar buggies i have seen.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 23, 2012, 10:34:54 PM
ifs front would fix a bunch of things haha
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 23, 2012, 10:41:43 PM
It always does.

AMC had the right idea with the Eagle!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 23, 2012, 11:19:55 PM
maybe trying to shoot for a 110 wheelbase is not the right idea


Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on July 24, 2012, 08:26:36 AM
get yourself a land rover chassis.... ;)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 24, 2012, 10:11:05 AM
those tin cans wouldnt last 5 minutes the way i drive    8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on July 24, 2012, 10:25:01 AM
sounds like you need an eagle with LS1 :D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 24, 2012, 12:32:47 PM
i would build an s10 or other mini truck on like 34's   be fun for line mountain, and be fun for regular wheeling trips when we are more tj/35's group
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on July 24, 2012, 03:12:03 PM
You might have to put a little though into where you are about to go...  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: orange anchor on July 24, 2012, 05:25:05 PM
no thought just put a winch on the back too
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 24, 2012, 06:38:54 PM
i think i am going to go build a sub for this guy, F it.  no customer work that i have unconsciously pushed off till Friday, and next week. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 24, 2012, 11:29:48 PM
m4 fab has begun

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on July 25, 2012, 07:54:07 AM
That racing seat is  8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on July 25, 2012, 10:25:44 AM
3 or 4 link front and rear?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 25, 2012, 12:11:56 PM
rear three, i was also thinking front 3, but i will see how it lays out.  have materials for either on the self.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on July 26, 2012, 12:26:53 PM
I don't see a seat for the guy that watches the guages...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 26, 2012, 01:05:29 PM
your observation is correct. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 26, 2012, 01:12:54 PM
man i burned the shit out of my right arm last night welding up the sub on this guy.  to hot and didn't put the welding jacket on, stupid.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Nick on July 26, 2012, 05:01:11 PM
You are the man!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 26, 2012, 06:31:15 PM
god i love fresh metal  yesssss





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Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on July 26, 2012, 07:17:36 PM
is that the belly ?  did you build your jig table at ride height?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 26, 2012, 10:12:30 PM
that is the belly, table is higher than ride height.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 26, 2012, 10:13:17 PM
tonight's progress:

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on July 26, 2012, 11:32:35 PM
cool.    how big is the "foot print" of that belly.

I ask because i was shocked how much damage the belly of my buggy took.   
I think low slug, lighter material and having a lot of belly surface area was the issue. 


Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 26, 2012, 11:54:20 PM
Seems.... interesting.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on July 27, 2012, 07:40:11 AM
someones sore about getting fired :P
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 27, 2012, 07:59:42 AM
ya the front "foot print" i am not real crazy, but it kinda just ended up where it would be.  keeping room for the front shaft, 36" ish links, and petals will be forward of the front sub.  it will start to come together when tube gets bent, it may get changed a little, but its a start to get the drive train mounted up. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 27, 2012, 08:02:05 AM
tall motor mounts will of course have a ton of tie in when tube starts to get run.  it has some CJ upper 250 wall links it it.  Motor mounts are all 3/8" plate and tabs shrong.  3" bushings.  i should get a seat before i mount the trans and case. 
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 27, 2012, 11:26:24 AM
Sub seems ridiculously huge for its height on the chassis at this stage is what I'm thinking.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 27, 2012, 12:30:34 PM
i guess i disagree, look how "big" Atom was  this is smaller. 

WB is longer than i wanted but most cars are actually 120-125 these days
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on July 27, 2012, 12:44:54 PM
That is the bottom of the car, right. Not an actual subframe. Its like Atom was, not like yours and mine are now. That square is the from itself.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on July 27, 2012, 02:25:16 PM
That is the bottom of the car, right. Not an actual subframe. Its like Atom was, not like yours and mine are now. That square is the from itself.


I would say its both.

Im just hypersensitive to belly size.   :)

Im rebuilding mine like a battle ship!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on July 27, 2012, 04:24:00 PM
http://rochester.craigslist.org/ptd/3119702429.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 27, 2012, 05:17:00 PM
yes, that is the bottom on the car!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 29, 2012, 10:11:02 PM
shit is getting real now!  time to order parts, i crossed the line tonight!




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Title: Re: 572
Post by: cracker on July 29, 2012, 10:24:44 PM
looks sweet..
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 29, 2012, 10:27:27 PM
a couple lines will change a little, but i think thats the general idea.  Built around radiator fitting between the double pillars.  Looks like everything is laying out pretty good.  probably gona change the A pillar angle, i was trying to follow the campbell#8 car at that point, but i seem to have ended up with a huge window net opening again...


Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on July 30, 2012, 08:30:54 AM
Done by tomorrow's meeting?  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on July 30, 2012, 09:57:26 AM
That looks nice.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on July 30, 2012, 11:35:32 AM
I like the lines of this car.   Clean and simple.     


Question.   Why are the main hoops not complete single tubes?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on July 30, 2012, 11:40:20 AM
NM.   i figured your going front to back  not side to side.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 30, 2012, 11:47:59 AM
ordered last night:

seat
cell
harness
gages / tach
power panel
disconnect
oil pressure shutoff
push button starter switches / horn
header gaskets
misc wmall ruff stuff order placed

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 30, 2012, 11:50:32 PM
more tube ran tonight, on hold till parts come in and customer work complete
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 31, 2012, 12:17:23 PM
i talked to my boy Kalvin at PSC and he said they ran that radiator for KOH, and one other short course race.  only pulled it to swap for one that had an oil cooler in it.  hmmmm
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on July 31, 2012, 01:01:23 PM
Race-proven...

Like "slightly used" or "road-tested", only not.  :P
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 31, 2012, 01:02:15 PM
and yes the gob a JB weld was repaired 2 days before KOH haha,  no thanks


this look pretty awesome, the google said nascar demo cars

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PWR-RADIATOR-OIL-COOLER-DUAL-AN-12-INLETS-1-75-OUTLET-NASCAR-ARCA-IMCA-/180852494492?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%252BFICS%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D120899129515%26ps%3D54#ht_1045wt_1344


huge oil cooler, nice radiator
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 31, 2012, 02:16:07 PM
dual AN-12 sounds like nothing your motor wants to talk to without either hack or decent expense.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 31, 2012, 05:08:16 PM
thought AN12 sounded small... easy to adapt
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2012, 10:10:57 PM
dual AN-12 sounds like nothing your motor wants to talk to without either hack or decent expense.


looks like press in to AN20 available though....


http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-Chevy-LS1-LS2-LS7-water-pump-top-fitting-20AN-short-/290735956122?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43b136a09a&vxp=mtr#ht_2460wt_730
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2012, 10:46:41 PM
nascar radiator ordered...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on August 02, 2012, 12:01:54 PM
bring it down and put a weld on it.   Not sure if i would trust press fit...

AN fittings sure are nice :)     
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 02, 2012, 12:21:47 PM
i went with the dual 12AN, i can make a block that y's 1.25" to dual 12AN
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 02, 2012, 10:57:17 PM
many boxes yesterday and today showed up.


cell, harness, gages, misc electrical stuff

Seat and Radiator still in the mail. 




After this TJ cage and 571 prep for 8/18 race, ill start flying on this thing....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 02, 2012, 11:22:01 PM
I can't find any used nascar pumper stuff on eBay.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 02, 2012, 11:37:42 PM
do better?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 02, 2012, 11:52:46 PM
I looked for a while. Guess I don't have master searching skills.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 04, 2012, 06:30:13 PM
i got my radiator, its awesome, other than the hole clear as day in the front of one of the tubes!


FML   >:(
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on August 05, 2012, 10:54:19 PM
what is this car going to look like?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 05, 2012, 11:07:50 PM
gif, think you can tig up a radiator tube?  if not the guy is cool and will send a FedEx pickup tag.  meh


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 05, 2012, 11:19:38 PM
Do not run that.

Send it back. Buy one without holes (new).
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 05, 2012, 11:52:59 PM
this is a 1000$ radiator that i did not by new
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on August 06, 2012, 07:49:29 AM
Do not run that.

Send it back. Buy one without holes (new).

This.  If you are serious about this new car, don't skimp.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 06, 2012, 08:56:31 AM
you guys just have all the answers,,,
Title: Re: 572
Post by: cracker on August 06, 2012, 09:06:09 AM
you guys just have all the answers,,,

as long as YOU have all the $$$
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 06, 2012, 09:31:37 AM
you guys just have all the answers,,,

Nobody has all the answers, just opinions and I guess they are not wanted, so carry on.  :'(
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2012, 09:40:08 AM
I have all the answers!!! :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on August 06, 2012, 09:46:46 AM
gif, think you can tig up a radiator tube?  if not the guy is cool and will send a FedEx pickup tag.  meh


brazing is the answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siRk3aO6oHo&feature=relmfu
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 07, 2012, 11:03:45 PM
two jeeps through the shop tonight, and a couple more tubes after on this guy

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on August 08, 2012, 08:13:10 PM
this build has me looking at rear engine cars.

Funny how this hobby always has you wanting more...
Title: 572
Post by: etk300ex on August 08, 2012, 08:43:24 PM
Oh no
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 08, 2012, 10:27:37 PM
its a disease. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: orange anchor on August 09, 2012, 12:19:22 PM
this build has me looking at KAYAKs and soft sided cooler.  Looks great
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 09, 2012, 12:27:25 PM
i have built kayaks before, and i own a soft cooler.  although it has been in the back of my truck for 6weeks with god knows what in it.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 09, 2012, 05:22:07 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/INTERCO-SUPER-SWAMPER-TSL-SX-TIRES-43-x-14-50-17-NEW-Set-of-4-/110902201038?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19d2494ace&vxp=mtr#ht_1349wt_934
Title: Re: 572
Post by: orange anchor on August 10, 2012, 10:39:30 AM
You kill me, good luck this weekend
Title: 572
Post by: GBR928 on August 12, 2012, 03:35:22 PM
this build has me looking at rear engine cars.

Funny how this hobby always has you wanting more...

A rear engine jeep willys pickup themed buggy similar to Shannon campbell's ttc buggy would be a sweet machine!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 14, 2012, 02:47:48 PM
full credit back, radiator sent back
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on August 14, 2012, 03:04:14 PM
Glad he was a good seller
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 15, 2012, 09:32:18 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Pair-LS1-Header-Flange-Laser-Cut-1-2-Steel-1-8-Port-/280931676380?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4168d530dc&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_1361
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 05, 2012, 11:28:03 PM
sold last of express van parts today, 300$ for tires  8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on September 25, 2012, 10:08:51 AM
i assume you are going with a 14b, but i know you talked about 9s at one point. good deal for a rear housing
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/axles-tires-wheels-sale/1075132-ruff-stuff-specialties-full-float-9-rear-end.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 09, 2012, 09:02:10 AM
man so many choices, interco makes a 42.5" sticky bogger on 17" now


that could be a sweet tire
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on October 09, 2012, 10:07:53 AM
boggers never sidehill well, not sure how a sticky with deep tread would deal with being cut up for some lateral grip.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on October 09, 2012, 10:12:18 AM
Rockers work well. Just look at Jeff, he would be lost without them.  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: orange anchor on October 09, 2012, 07:50:24 PM
that true kids...  Save your money for good rockers, put them on a hay wagon w/ a tow motor engine and beat $20K rigs in the rocks all day long.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 10, 2012, 12:01:10 AM
3 wheel drive too
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 14, 2012, 10:03:19 PM
shop re organised for chassis fab.

pulled the lift out for a couple weeks.

got the left side roof line tube done tonight.  she is tricky.  finish up the driver side and it will fly after that.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 15, 2012, 11:01:37 PM
tonight's progress.  looks like a car now.    i liiiiike it.     8)








 





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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 15, 2012, 11:46:40 PM
ls flanges on the way, i thought i drunken ordered them last week, guess not.  2 other ebay auctions didnt ship.  nice.  thanks sticks
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 17, 2012, 11:49:26 PM
doing work.

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on October 18, 2012, 08:13:49 AM
look good
Title: Re: 572
Post by: cracker on October 18, 2012, 08:32:40 AM
you need to make a sign and lay it on the motor that says.. "YES THE MOTOR IS SUPPOSED TO BE BACKWARDS!".. maybe that will stop all of the stupid comments on FB each time you post a picture...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 18, 2012, 09:10:06 AM
they are just scared
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on October 18, 2012, 09:27:43 AM
Looks like your welder cart tire needs a little Slime.

571 is cool and all, but I really like the look of this one so far.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 18, 2012, 09:30:21 AM
the welder cart is just aired down for flex,  aired down via 1/2 hole


15' mig lead makes the welder not really move anyway :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 18, 2012, 09:32:23 AM
i cant believe how fast i can lay tube now with the plasma templates i am making as i go. 


im going to make like 10 of them with different notch angles. 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: Nick on October 18, 2012, 09:40:57 AM
The problem with the welding cart is the front tires bind up and hit each other as soon as you try and turn it.  :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on October 18, 2012, 10:01:41 AM
i cant believe how fast i can lay tube now with the plasma templates i am making as i go. 


im going to make like 10 of them with different notch angles.

So, no official tubing notcher, just your plasma?  Smart!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on October 18, 2012, 12:08:58 PM
Good to see some work being done on it.

What is ride height going to be comparied to the table?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 18, 2012, 12:45:48 PM
on the table its about 6" taller than ride height
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 19, 2012, 11:14:54 AM
more work, going slow.  Copying chassis is much easier than doing your own thing.

packaging sucks.  the rear axle links / pan bar / bumps / coil overs / sway bar / truss have to fit into like a 10" x 10" home....!



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Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on October 19, 2012, 11:19:15 AM
I love the wrap on that gusset/shock mount!  Sweet!
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on October 19, 2012, 11:24:50 AM
Motor is never coming out? Hole looks small.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 19, 2012, 11:30:43 AM
hole is small, motor can come out.  This car is build on Easy trans pull out, Pain in the dick motor pull out. 

i have been battling on how the fuel cell will come out... even in Fab stage.



looking like a high sway bar like the jimmys cars run, if one at all
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on October 19, 2012, 01:33:29 PM
Makes sense. And it is looking real good back there.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on October 19, 2012, 02:27:35 PM
I like those link mounts
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 19, 2012, 03:39:20 PM
http://rochester.craigslist.org/pts/3349761805.html
Title: 572
Post by: Harrison on October 19, 2012, 06:02:30 PM
With discs. Good deal especially if it has 4.10s
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 20, 2012, 12:00:01 AM
205s are so gawd dam heavy.  F me
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 20, 2012, 03:55:13 PM
Case is mounted.  Runing out of the easy things to do...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on October 20, 2012, 06:51:49 PM
pics?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 20, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
day 8

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 20, 2012, 11:48:58 PM
rethinking the cell placement for weight transfer and spare tire.  its just not working in the back to support the rear coil mounts, and there is a TON of room behind the driver seat.


Tight up front, but workable. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 23, 2012, 11:29:05 AM
no progress last night. got home, went to sleep.  woke up to eat, went back to sleep.

ha,  felt awesome this morning.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 24, 2012, 10:43:59 PM
petals started, momemtum of this build is slowWing down.


have to put the lift back in soon to knock out a few customer trucks, bah!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 26, 2012, 09:55:46 PM
man if i could find a 14" tall 32 gallon cell id be happier than shit.  seems they just dont make them  bah!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 26, 2012, 09:59:06 PM
i need this cell

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Jaz-32-Gallon-Polyethylene-Street-Racing-Fuel-Cell-Tank-w-Cap-33-x-17-x-14-/380485635593?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5896b60e09&vxp=mtr

but in a steel thing
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 26, 2012, 10:00:23 PM
and im not paying a 1k$ for this, the only one i have found

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Enduro-32-Gallon-Racing-Steel-Can-Fuel-Safe-Cell-w-Bladder-Safety-Foam-/380484849596?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5896aa0fbc&vxp=mtr
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on October 27, 2012, 02:35:07 PM
i need this cell

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Jaz-32-Gallon-Polyethylene-Street-Racing-Fuel-Cell-Tank-w-Cap-33-x-17-x-14-/380485635593?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5896b60e09&vxp=mtr

but in a steel thing
so buy it, go to your uncle's shop, and bend up a steel thing for it.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 29, 2012, 11:47:43 PM
orbital on the way for this guy, ebay special
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 01, 2012, 12:56:27 AM
more ebay placed
summit order placed
o my
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 02, 2012, 10:55:51 AM
cell
column
wheel
quick release
padding
driverside net
stage 8's for the 60
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 05, 2012, 06:07:29 PM
crazy, the orbital i got is vac packed with new fitings, and PSC numbers on the bags.  looks never opened.  100$ score. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on November 05, 2012, 06:14:15 PM
thats an awesome deal
Title: 572
Post by: etk300ex on November 05, 2012, 06:30:22 PM
Damn
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on November 05, 2012, 06:48:11 PM
Woah! Scoreee
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 05, 2012, 07:00:42 PM
hope its useful, it was so cheap i didnt look at the specs really too carful, but its the "middle" size PSC sells so what could possibly go wrong
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 08, 2012, 09:50:39 PM
column and quick release came yesterday

cell came today, fits good.  ill make up an enclosure
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 15, 2012, 02:09:11 PM
blem boggers say 18" wide, site for regular says only 19" wide


hmmm

145lb tire
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on November 15, 2012, 02:21:12 PM
Mine are 18"
But they are also 11 years old.
But I've never seen them listed at 19" wide in any catalog.

And they actually measure aprox 15"
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 15, 2012, 02:31:57 PM
yours are 39's also


these are 44's
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on November 15, 2012, 08:11:08 PM
Ummm. They are 39.5 to be exact. :P

I found the 4 wheel parts listing for boogers 44's are listed as 19.5"
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 24, 2012, 10:51:25 PM
Mike and I made an Enclosure for the new cell today after fixing my cum apart

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on November 25, 2012, 07:52:23 AM
hahaha, fixing what??
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 25, 2012, 09:18:42 AM
Dodge blew water pump yesterday, Cummins Came apart
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on November 25, 2012, 10:01:07 AM
Much clearer, thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on November 25, 2012, 02:48:29 PM
looks like it should do nicely.
is there a specific gauge the enclosure needs to be for KOH or Ultra 4?

oh and I see why you guys have limited RACE FUNDS...

stop spending so much money on all that high quality beer!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 25, 2012, 08:12:10 PM
i read somewhere 20g minimum.  thats what i did.  its the same as both my RCI cells i have
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 14, 2012, 08:20:41 PM
Empty shop today with just this guy.   Beat the 14 into submission.  Finished the fuel cell enclosure.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 15, 2012, 11:53:17 PM
cut some tube out of the back, and added to the sub some for the new cell.



looking good.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 16, 2012, 10:33:02 PM
rear link mounts are looking shrong


also for reference

http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-O-E-Bulge-Acorn-Lug-Nuts-3-4-Hex-9-16-Thread-Size-/250781341926?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3a63bb98e6
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 24, 2013, 11:11:27 PM
rear axle has disks and calipers on it
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 26, 2013, 12:01:42 AM
C's pulled from axle



nothing less than FUCK ME


that was beyond painful.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: awl4928 on January 26, 2013, 12:03:37 AM
Did the porta-ram make an appearance.?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 26, 2013, 12:13:23 AM
 my porta ram is gay.  it leaks



used matts 12ton bottle jack inside the pumpkin
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on January 26, 2013, 01:13:54 AM
Fancy
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 26, 2013, 12:47:02 PM
I made a compromise.  It will be fine.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 05, 2013, 10:25:16 PM
day 10 this hog is rear linked
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 06, 2013, 04:45:01 PM
talked to one of the motor guys at work today- he is buying all the software and hardware to burn the new GM computers- no more sending to LT1 guy any more :) 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on February 06, 2013, 04:57:54 PM
nice!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 09, 2013, 12:33:23 AM
started hacking shit and making stuff work.


got the rear axle figured out.  its 3 linked, and will have provisions for bumps and sway bar.  not an easy feat with space with links, track bar, and coils in the way.....

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on February 09, 2013, 08:28:59 AM
Awesome
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 09, 2013, 10:44:06 PM
more work today 

rear STILL coming along.  close to bumps and finish up rear of chassis.


should probably have a radiator by now. time to start shopping again. 

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on February 10, 2013, 08:20:21 AM
I didn't realize it until now.  You are driving from the right side of the buggie?  Little european in you coming out?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on February 10, 2013, 08:42:19 AM
just UK... rest of Europe is LHD..

only countries that are left hand traffic were old British colonies...
something to do with knights and the side of the road your sword was on ?!?!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on February 10, 2013, 09:01:45 AM
I always wondered why!  8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 10, 2013, 09:10:09 AM
it just worked, and why not-  not like there are any rules to these things.   


it all goes back to having "stock" axles and ease of replacement components.... they are just upside down :) 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 10, 2013, 07:12:31 PM
deal pending on a new motor for this guy.  i think im going to build another TH350 for this guy, and move the motor back 4" and the Case back 10"  wheel base is out of hand with the 4l60 being so long
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 10, 2013, 09:19:34 PM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4829496849957


yup
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on February 11, 2013, 01:29:16 AM
Content not found. Yup
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 11, 2013, 10:46:52 PM
sorry.




more work done tonight- a little JK rear brake schooling slowed down progress though.


Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 13, 2013, 10:45:28 PM
bumps mounted in rear



picking up new motor tomorrow :)




can you say aluuuuuminum :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 13, 2013, 10:55:50 PM
put in for boggers.  doing it!  fuck rausch creek mud
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on February 14, 2013, 07:23:26 AM
Boggers for racing?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on February 14, 2013, 07:28:37 AM
Need pricing?  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on February 14, 2013, 07:55:20 AM
Cut them up and they will be awesome.
Its all in the tires
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 14, 2013, 08:50:43 AM
Going blems jarid so I didn't bother asking you.
Title: 572
Post by: GBR928 on February 14, 2013, 09:26:01 AM
44's?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 14, 2013, 09:26:55 AM
sir yes
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on February 14, 2013, 12:30:46 PM
Little grooving and they'll be groovy!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 14, 2013, 08:15:02 PM
insert one of mikes rusty spoon comments


drove 3 hours tonight for nothing-  it was an iron block, i educated him that it was not an 09.



Fucker
Title: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on February 14, 2013, 08:16:36 PM
The one from Flx? Damn
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 14, 2013, 08:17:47 PM
yup

fail
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on February 14, 2013, 08:56:36 PM
Pictures would have saved you 3 hours.  ;D
Title: 572
Post by: etk300ex on February 14, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
No good!
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on February 14, 2013, 09:16:05 PM
Son. Of. A. Bitch.
Title: 572
Post by: GBR928 on February 15, 2013, 07:42:53 AM
Aww man!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on February 15, 2013, 07:52:14 AM
I'm still hung up on the boggers ! ???     :o
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on February 15, 2013, 08:08:49 AM
I love what you can do with such a crazy canvas though...

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on February 15, 2013, 08:16:16 AM
I'm still hung up on the boggers ! ???     :o

X2

Didn't like mine.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on February 15, 2013, 08:27:28 AM
I love what you can do with such a crazy canvas though...

Is that a Rockwell with ball joint 60 C's???
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on February 15, 2013, 08:35:52 AM
Wasn't even looking at that...wow!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 15, 2013, 09:15:56 AM
race at RC and 5/6 races you might give boggers a second chance. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on February 15, 2013, 10:47:41 AM
race at RC and 5/6 races you might give boggers a second chance.

I always thought of Boggers as being heavy and sloppy.
But I know they work...

And stepping up to 44"      are you going to need deeper gearing?



Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 15, 2013, 10:51:47 AM
ill take HP and an 800$ trans cooler over gears anyday   :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 15, 2013, 11:18:43 AM
a 2500$ pallet of Solid goodness is coming for Matt and I!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on February 15, 2013, 01:14:16 PM
I think they make a "sticky" bogger now too.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 15, 2013, 02:07:21 PM
im gona take some time away from stickies- they seem really annoying other than a hot dry day they are stupid awesome.  not the best RC tire.   Needs lots of HP to warm them up and by that time 10% of them are gone.


i couldnt believe what a virgina trip did to a brand new set of stickies.   
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on February 15, 2013, 10:00:26 PM
Im the perfect spokes person for Boggers.
Groove them and Run them at 2-3 psi for rec wheeling.
Air them up to 10-15 for racing. Maybe more as they break in.
Indestructible.
Best quality tire I've ever owned, and im 3rd owner.
Sure they are prob obnoxiously out of balance but then again what tire wouldn't be after a race at RC?

U gonna need gears though! :P

Title: 572
Post by: GBR928 on February 19, 2013, 08:11:01 AM
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=uyXO4-oepMA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DuyXO4-oepMA


Smike, 1:56 is where you come in!
Title: 572
Post by: etk300ex on February 19, 2013, 09:30:05 AM
They are ugly lol, but I can't think of many times I've seen The cj buggy turned down!

swampers only get better with age :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 19, 2013, 10:01:23 AM
my swampers are showing their age.  i think they need a groover soon to sharpen up some blocks.  they have aweseome tread they are just worn out.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on February 19, 2013, 10:04:35 AM
i have the $50 groover. its ok. 1hr per tire.

the expensive ones look way nice.
Title: 572
Post by: Harrison on February 19, 2013, 10:45:57 AM
1hr per tire

On a 34" tire haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on February 19, 2013, 10:54:59 AM
that's a great downfall vid.  hahaha

looks like it fell off the trailer on the way there! great
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 19, 2013, 11:38:11 AM
link was broken this morning for me, didnt see it
Title: Re: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on February 19, 2013, 12:32:44 PM
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=uyXO4-oepMA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DuyXO4-oepMA


Smike, 1:56 is where you come in!
Absolutely hysterical.
Great find!
Do we know who made that!
Title: 572
Post by: etk300ex on February 19, 2013, 10:46:39 PM
Hahahaha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 27, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
solid order- they delivered 4 packages but held the 5th for some reason for signature:

it ended up back on its way after it sat at UPS for 5 days to CT for some reason!  originally came from OHIO lol


    02/27/2013    10:50 A.M.   UPS has requested a Delivery Intercept for this package. / Deliver to Another Address.
Waterford, CT, United States    02/27/2013    7:39 A.M.   Out For Delivery
02/27/2013    1:42 A.M.   Arrival Scan
Hartford, CT, United States    02/27/2013    12:46 A.M.   Departure Scan
Hartford, CT, United States    02/26/2013    12:23 P.M.   Arrival Scan
East Syracuse, NY, United States    02/26/2013    3:29 A.M.   Departure Scan
East Syracuse, NY, United States    02/25/2013    10:40 P.M.   Arrival Scan
Henrietta, NY, United States    02/25/2013    9:03 P.M.   Departure Scan
02/25/2013    8:39 P.M.   As requested by the customer, the receiver will pickup at a UPS facility within 5 business days. / Returned to the sender. The package was not picked up as arranged.
Henrietta, NY, United States    02/18/2013    5:44 P.M.   As requested by the customer, the receiver will pickup at a UPS facility within 5 business days. / Customer has confirmed and will pick up packages this evening.
02/18/2013    1:10 P.M.   As requested by the customer, the receiver will pickup at a UPS facility within 5 business days.
02/18/2013    6:49 A.M.   Out For Delivery
02/18/2013    5:23 A.M.   Arrival Scan
Buffalo, NY, United States    02/18/2013    3:21 A.M.   Departure Scan
Girard, OH, United States    02/15/2013    10:00 P.M.   Arrival Scan
Boardman, OH, United States    02/15/2013    9:21 P.M.   Departure Scan
02/15/2013    7:30 P.M.   Origin Scan
United States    02/15/2013    3:57 P.M.   Order Processed: Ready for UPS
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 27, 2013, 12:25:13 PM

 1Z01426Y4242280660
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 01, 2013, 10:16:38 AM
hitting this sat or sunday

http://buffalo.craigslist.org/pts/3641706525.html 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on March 01, 2013, 01:46:04 PM
hitting this sat or sunday

http://buffalo.craigslist.org/pts/3641706525.html

Wow.  That's not bad if they are 60's.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: wnyjpgy on March 01, 2013, 01:51:21 PM
They are.

That's Randy that owned United 4wd. That business is closed and that's the end of his inventory.

I spoke to Matt that use to work there to check for myself.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on March 01, 2013, 01:55:34 PM
From $300 to $600, complete axles will be more int he $600 range I bet,
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on March 01, 2013, 01:57:52 PM
Hmmm.  I'm am free this weekend...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on March 01, 2013, 02:01:11 PM
Smike did your tires show uP yet?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: wnyjpgy on March 01, 2013, 03:51:15 PM
Some of those axles are ball joint unit bearing style. I assume newer dodge axles.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on March 01, 2013, 03:59:39 PM
i see 3 ford axles.
2 bj on far right and far left
1 kp 3rd visible from right.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 01, 2013, 04:33:35 PM
i slacked- 44 boggers are gone.


have another set of KRTs coming sometime after next week.  They are paid for, just have to arange shipping. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 10, 2013, 10:43:35 AM
Left voice and txt.  In the truck in the area with a stack of cash.

hitting this sat or sunday

http://buffalo.craigslist.org/pts/3641706525.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 10, 2013, 11:48:41 AM
No Chevy stuff left
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 11, 2013, 09:20:14 AM
front axle is mostly linked in

128" is the current wheel base   :-\
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on March 11, 2013, 10:02:43 AM
https://www.fedex.com/fedextrack/index.html?tracknumbers=308393661219775&cntry_code=us&cntry_code=us


 ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on March 11, 2013, 11:01:02 AM
front axle is mostly linked in

128" is the current wheel base   :-\

Your going to need 44+ tires to rock that WB.    :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 11, 2013, 12:06:24 PM
ya i was looking at my options. i could knock about 3" out of the rear with two tubs changed that mount the bumps, and i could probably pull 2" out of the front.



even move the motor back 4", change to TH350 or 400, and move the case back 10" total, cut the front sub out, Bah!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Nick on March 11, 2013, 12:19:10 PM
the limo!!!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 11, 2013, 12:21:28 PM
120" on 571 has never bothered me
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 11, 2013, 12:22:06 PM
my butt will feel like its in a 90" car,  massive tree bars and HP will take care of the rest
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on March 11, 2013, 03:29:34 PM
But your belly height is really good so you might be Ok with that WB

Your turning radius might suck...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on March 12, 2013, 10:41:03 AM
RCV's are in
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on March 12, 2013, 11:07:36 AM
ooOOooo :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on March 12, 2013, 11:09:44 AM
tires should be here today or tomorrow
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 12, 2013, 11:53:53 AM
sweet let me know when and where to meet up to grab both with the truck
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on March 13, 2013, 01:58:03 PM
tires are in
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 14, 2013, 05:42:29 PM
tires look good!

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2013, 12:04:29 PM
opened up on of the RCV boxes to find a nice little disclaimer


no spools or welded diffs

no tires above 47"




cant find this on there site at all... awesome...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2013, 12:53:14 PM
80 miles away... fawk   guy will take 500 for the set.


http://syracuse.craigslist.org/pts/3681962192.html
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on March 15, 2013, 01:25:47 PM
I almost asked if they were for sure king pin, but that's not a Chevy question to ask, is it?


I wonder how far out of my way it would be to take 81 to 90 instead of 15 to 390 on Sunday.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on March 15, 2013, 02:08:24 PM
If he has a way to load them into my utility trailer, I can retrieve them for you.  Just not willing to sacrifice my spine...

Need to know before the bank closes.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2013, 02:41:48 PM
yes he can load

kingpin SRW 4.10 chevy


Mark are you on your way back or something?

address is 3869 floridaville rd Cato NY 13033

Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on March 15, 2013, 02:52:39 PM
On leave today.  Just cooling my heels...

On my way to the bank.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2013, 02:57:08 PM
whats your delivery cost to my shop?  :D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on March 15, 2013, 03:29:04 PM
Let me get them here first.  Has he been answering texts or did you call?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2013, 03:32:05 PM
very responsive with Txt


said he is flexable and can be around, i told him id be there around 7 at the latests


how far is it for you?  i can bring out those springs or what else do you need? haha  Sunday or next week would work for me to grab them.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on March 15, 2013, 03:35:29 PM
40 miles.  Just got a reply back from him.  Heading out now.

They can sit here until you are ready for them.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2013, 03:39:54 PM
cool!


should be all set, but verify

kingpin, 60 / 14  SRW (no dually hub crap!).  said complete minus one lockout is missing / broken

500$   

Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on March 15, 2013, 03:54:37 PM
Crap...we were just up there. Could have saved Mark a run.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 16, 2013, 08:21:49 AM
Thanks Mark for the delivery!


My luck its a dodge 60 and not a Chevy.  Hopefully I can move it.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on March 16, 2013, 02:39:37 PM
Thanks Mark for the delivery!


My luck its a dodge 60 and not a Chevy.  Hopefully I can move it.

He had it posted as a CHEVY...?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 20, 2013, 09:18:24 AM
thanks to Jeff and Tower's massive lathe we got the solid C's turned out and they are mounted on the housing.


looks beefy. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 20, 2013, 09:57:05 AM
looking at coolers today ,ha

http://www.rotary-works.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=rotaryworks&Product_Code=RW-OC-248-30-AN10

looks nice for 100$
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on March 21, 2013, 02:10:58 PM
front axle is mostly linked in

128" is the current wheel base   :-\

Your going to need 44+ tires to rock that WB.    :)

set of 49 Iroks listed on blems!
http://intercotire.com/news-article.php?article=1
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 21, 2013, 02:55:10 PM
haha that would be fun


572 would not be race duty then haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 04, 2013, 12:49:08 PM
front is three linked. 

parting the GMC tonight to steal SRW hubs and maybe 4.56 gears
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on April 08, 2013, 09:19:28 AM
http://www.hardlinecrawlers.com/forums/index.php?topic=23785.0

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 13, 2013, 02:19:58 PM
Front of this car looks like a space ship.  I am rocking it.  Looks fawsome with 42" profenders on it.  I real sorry who ever has to lift this front axle or who gets hit with it.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 13, 2013, 02:23:08 PM
255$ to the bolt bin after I was short some 5/8" washers last night.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 13, 2013, 11:34:00 PM
needs steering tie rods, 2 front coils installed, tacks inspected / added, tires mounted to wheels Matts bringing tomorrow and this guy is a roller..... 

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: awl4928 on April 14, 2013, 02:43:47 AM
Might need a front bumper for some logging. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 14, 2013, 08:56:35 AM
Ya, its fins get a hoop to protect the trackbar.  I hadent planed on it being in front like that but it will work
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on April 14, 2013, 09:12:59 AM
Oooo, put a huge stinger on there!  :P
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 15, 2013, 08:00:38 AM
On tires inbetween the lift!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on April 15, 2013, 08:01:22 AM
;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 17, 2013, 08:53:26 AM
car looks plain hot from all directions :)


Took 3" out of the wheel base, down to 124" now- tolerable.  gona order some 2" wheel spacers, should look awesome with 42' / 44"s, but tolerable with the KRTs.

its a full welded suspention roller, moved back over to its bay, shop cleaned, matts on the table.  Lift bay open for stupid jeeps  ::)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 17, 2013, 03:45:41 PM
new wheel, clamps, and ujoints ordered from summit


new 5.38 ring gear ordered from mudflaps.com 165$ lol     PORC has changed names- who knew! 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on April 17, 2013, 05:02:31 PM
that's PORC?? they have one of the best prices on my airbag.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on April 17, 2013, 10:25:56 PM
jeff showed me some pics.   buggy is looking good!

124" WB on 42 or 44 would be perfect.   low and long.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 19, 2013, 08:24:39 AM
mounted a winch last night

cut 5" out of the ass of the chassis, re mounted bumps and rear track bar.  2 square tubes need to be rerun for rear driveshaft home, but she is good and i am happy with the wheelbase and stance.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on April 19, 2013, 08:44:42 AM
I'm glad you were able to shorten it up a bit.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on April 19, 2013, 09:07:32 AM
Sounds like it's close to Big Dogs ready!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 19, 2013, 11:27:55 AM
not that close, but a couple weeks it will be making noise
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 30, 2013, 11:14:04 PM
first ever one shot gear setup


new 5.38 gear set

carrier, ring gear spacer, diff, miss matched races i found somewhere



slapped 4 shims on pinion, bolted in.   preload mint

put diff in, back lash mint



race ready. 




made a front shaft, and discovered both my 205 yokes are 1330 and not 1350.... bah!
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on May 01, 2013, 01:03:03 AM
Pattern? Who needs a pattern checked?


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 10, 2013, 09:42:51 PM
Wheel and orbital mounted
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on May 10, 2013, 10:10:35 PM
Let the "vroom vroom" sounds commence!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 22, 2013, 10:10:48 AM
neat!  since when do fedex drivers call you to ask if you are home for a signature.  Awesome. guy is going to call me when he is 5 min out so i can meet him haha.



Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 22, 2013, 10:11:21 AM
he was probably like FAWK this is heavy i dont want to move it more than twice haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on May 22, 2013, 10:30:47 AM
PSC goodies?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 22, 2013, 10:46:08 AM
ya for 571 and Matts buggy
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on May 22, 2013, 11:11:21 AM
neat!  since when do fedex drivers call you to ask if you are home for a signature.  Awesome. guy is going to call me when he is 5 min out so i can meet him haha.





He deserves a tip
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 22, 2013, 12:06:25 PM
was perfect


showed up as he pulled in, desk to desk 6min
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on May 31, 2013, 07:57:58 AM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/axles-tires-wheels-sale/1313266-raceline-monster-beadlocks-1000-shipped-8x6-5-a.html

seem like a decent deal
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on June 02, 2013, 10:09:39 PM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/axles-tires-wheels/851296-dana-60-dana-44-spindle-bushing.html

these are what i was talking about when we were working on 571
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 11, 2013, 01:08:00 PM
threw more tube at this guy last night. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 13, 2013, 09:25:57 AM
more tube- the core around my head is done.  Radiator is going only place is fits- behind my head.  lower mount started, got a plan
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 13, 2013, 09:56:23 AM
last nights progress

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 13, 2013, 01:04:42 PM
http://www.4ws.com/

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 14, 2013, 08:09:29 AM
radiator shroud done
Fan mounted
Radiator mounted in car


after the 4th one of these, i finally got it figured out how to do it with my piss poor non box break with the least amount of bushmechanicry.




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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 15, 2013, 12:34:15 AM
fan shroud bolted to radiator mount
more front chassis tubes in
front air bumps in minus supports
rear sub of chassis cut and changed up for more rear shaft room


punch list on the wall.  this is day 3 of pretty good progress on this guy in a long time.  hoping to keep it going this weekend and get her full welded and ready for rear shaft / wire / plumb by sunday. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on June 15, 2013, 07:32:51 AM
Are you shooting for shakedown at RC 6/22?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 15, 2013, 08:43:01 AM
Probably a streatch, but there is a car show at work 6/27
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 16, 2013, 11:53:58 PM
on the lookout for a set of cheap non chrome ls headers



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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 17, 2013, 10:41:22 AM
213$ headers ordered that im just going to cut in half lol   :o

oil cooler adaptor and LONG throttle cable ordered.


Title: 572
Post by: GBR928 on June 17, 2013, 12:18:51 PM
Cheap oil filter adapter for chevy LS. Is this what you ordered?

http://m.summitracing.com/parts/trd-1020
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on June 17, 2013, 12:26:23 PM
Thats a remote filter adapter, for moving the filter to another location.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 17, 2013, 12:35:43 PM
ya, that would work, but you need a remote housing adaptor also.


The one i found

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hda-225/overview/make/chevrolet

has a T stat in it, and the filter screws right on it it. 

i have the fear of an oil filter flopping around and breaking off what ever mount its mounted to since they are are shitty cast junk metal. 

Hope there is enough room from filter to sub on my car
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on June 18, 2013, 09:09:59 AM
572 is looking good.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 18, 2013, 10:34:25 AM
i know


-Hon Solo








haha sorry
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 18, 2013, 10:43:48 AM
i have a problem


http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/axles-tires-wheels-sale/1337353-4-bfg-krt-b-s-39-5x13-50x17.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on June 18, 2013, 10:47:18 AM
Like a woman with shoes...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 18, 2013, 11:15:46 AM
i like my shoes :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 18, 2013, 12:12:15 PM
your shoes need moar tread!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 18, 2013, 12:27:16 PM
excited for the new ones on 572. 




i still like the tires. they just take a different drive style and a little more fuel :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 19, 2013, 08:09:49 AM
got pics of those tires, waiting on address to send check bah! hicks in Alabama without paypal lol  at least he took my offer to just pallet them and ship.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on June 19, 2013, 08:17:58 AM
send check

Never! Just not worth it at any price.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on June 19, 2013, 08:45:56 AM
send check

Never! Just not worth it at any price.

True story
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 19, 2013, 08:59:42 AM
what are my options for sending money to dumb people? 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: awl4928 on June 19, 2013, 09:07:00 AM
Money order.   Cashiers check.   Personal check.   transfer.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on June 19, 2013, 09:09:01 AM
And they all suck, you have zero recourse if he does not ship the tires.

Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on June 19, 2013, 09:17:26 AM
ive filed multiple paypal claims against sellers who never shipped parts. it doesnt matter what the price is or how "cheap" i cant afford a total loss on the purchase price. its just not worth it to me.

but ymmv
Title: Re: 572
Post by: awl4928 on June 19, 2013, 09:21:42 AM
Explain to me why you can't cancel a check?  Seems like recourse to me.  They don't ship you cancel payment.  35$ cancel fee seems way cheaper than a grand lost.   
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 19, 2013, 09:27:31 AM
how do you cancel a check that is already cashed lol 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 19, 2013, 09:28:09 AM
if i was on the other end, i would cash the check, wait till it clears, then ship. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on June 19, 2013, 09:28:23 AM
Explain to me why you can't cancel a check?  Seems like recourse to me.  They don't ship you cancel payment.  35$ cancel fee seems way cheaper than a grand lost.   

afaik, most banks will not reverse the check after its been cashed. if they will, it will take a lot of convincing.

canceling a check before its cashed (thus creating a "bad check") is different from reversing funds.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 19, 2013, 09:33:09 AM
ive filed multiple paypal claims against sellers who never shipped parts. it doesnt matter what the price is or how "cheap" i cant afford a total loss on the purchase price. its just not worth it to me.

but ymmv


to be clear, you are saying to you paypal is no better?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: awl4928 on June 19, 2013, 09:33:34 AM
I was under the impression the bank would also go though some effort to recover the funds if cashed.  Evidently miss information. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on June 19, 2013, 09:41:12 AM
ive filed multiple paypal claims against sellers who never shipped parts. it doesnt matter what the price is or how "cheap" i cant afford a total loss on the purchase price. its just not worth it to me.

but ymmv


to be clear, you are saying to you paypal is no better?

no, in my experience paypal was good and is the only way i send money for parts. they refunded my money twice when sellers didnt ship. the money has to be sent as payment for good (seller charged the paypal fee) in order for the transaction to qualify for the buyer protection (ability to file a claim)
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 19, 2013, 10:11:19 AM
There has to be money in the seller's account too.

I don't pay for goods from unknowns with PayPal balance or bank xfer. Only CC. Then if PayPal stiffs me I can reverse charges.

I learned that with a $40 Jetta grille. thankfully not something more expensive. By the time he really didn't ship he'd withdrawn funds. He never responded to the PP inquiry and lost by default but had no funds in the acct. he just lost the use of that account. Weak.

As for that situation? Hope it's fine. If its not fine it's flushing funds. Being a pirate deal there are always plenty who would help "enforce" if it went south so I'd worry way less than other avenues.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 19, 2013, 12:15:38 PM
i am not a high roller on pirate though haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 19, 2013, 01:32:11 PM
as long as they don't realize how much you hate the site, they'll still have your back  :-X
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 19, 2013, 04:00:49 PM
meh, check sent from bank. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 20, 2013, 12:30:21 AM
exhaust looking good   8)

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 20, 2013, 01:03:31 AM
gota love free shipping summit this month yessssssss
Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on June 20, 2013, 12:20:06 PM
Not going to melt the fan like that r U?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 20, 2013, 12:22:00 PM
even if i didnt have a 150' of header wrap coming, no way a Taurus fan would ever care about glowing exhaust 1" away haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on June 20, 2013, 01:49:58 PM
did i ever show you the electric fass we stock?  they are actually kinda nice
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 20, 2013, 04:43:29 PM
nope.


The taurus fans are crazy, mine draws 26amps static power
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on June 20, 2013, 11:37:20 PM
nope.


The taurus fans are crazy, mine draws 26amps static power

Truth.

Nothing better for the money.


Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 21, 2013, 11:51:47 AM
treps are for kids

(17) 54" Bogger blems up. Roll dubs, son
http://intercotire.com/news-article.php?article=1

Or (4) 49" Iroks for 17s...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 21, 2013, 12:45:42 PM
49's or 47's would be a fun play tire


20"s are dumb
Title: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 21, 2013, 01:56:01 PM
On a 54? C'mon.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: 572
Post by: etk300ex on June 21, 2013, 02:16:02 PM
20s bring the cones!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 21, 2013, 02:25:25 PM
dumb, because i dont own any- on the other hand i have like (20) 17"s
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 21, 2013, 05:43:01 PM
hahaha

I like your reasoning. and qtys.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 23, 2013, 10:40:15 PM
played saturday, but progress sunday.

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 24, 2013, 10:58:36 AM
looking good! how long until that sweet exhaust is tested out?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 24, 2013, 11:04:45 AM
hard to tell these days- customer work is going to get in the way pretty soon.  race prep and trailer build also in the que.  I "think" i have everything i need other than a 14 bolt pinion and trans / steering lines. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 25, 2013, 04:14:37 PM
Tire update.

Check received, tires palleted and sent.


Might have to go to terminal in buffalo to pick them up, Meh.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on June 25, 2013, 06:09:21 PM
We're up there weekly if that works out and you need them picked.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 28, 2013, 01:08:48 AM
one hugger wrapped.  disappointed in SS cable ties i got.


T case shifters fabbed and in. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 28, 2013, 10:09:22 AM
tire pickup went well?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 28, 2013, 01:22:21 PM
meh.  i have to bitch to him.  2 tire have bead damage that will probably be fine.  one tire looks like it was taken off with a sawsall.  one tire mint.  Awesome tread on all 4
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on June 28, 2013, 07:11:00 PM
Exhaust is looking good. I would have ended the exhaust with a simple 45* cut.


(http://bb.m4wdfabrications.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=310.0;attach=1447;image)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 28, 2013, 10:31:52 PM
the end is a 4" cummins down pipe from turbo back,  its fun. 


shafts all done.

Tcase shifters have bling handles i spun today
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on June 30, 2013, 11:22:51 PM
add to your collection
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/usa-northeast/923911-northeast-forsale-wanted-trade-post-only-here-57.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 27, 2013, 03:47:29 PM
M4 all caught up so back at this thing.

Cell mounted
Battery mounted
Radiator pulled and chassis full welded around it.
Headers and exhaust wrapped and instaled with o2's
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 28, 2013, 12:55:34 AM
throttle cable at food done
trans to case alignment fixed
radiator hose adapters / mounts plumbed in

Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on July 28, 2013, 08:24:02 PM
http://www.spike.com/episodes/sgqcbn/powerblock-xtreme-4x4-14-bolt-axle-101-low-dollar-wheeler-part-iii-season-3-ep-146

jump to the 10 min mark for front 14b oil issues

not sure if a flip D60 has same issues
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 29, 2013, 12:38:16 AM
Two trans coolers mounted
maf and air cleaner mounted
Throttle at engine mounted
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 30, 2013, 02:08:06 AM
fuck dash tube work, im stumped.  on to finishing the rest of the car.

Rolled on the lift, front axle full welded and almost race prepped.

RCV's are no joke.  man tools needed and tight tolerances to assemble. 



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Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 30, 2013, 09:21:32 AM
that looks awesome
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on July 30, 2013, 09:22:33 AM
really that hard to assemble?

I got the set for the 6... haven’t opened the box yet
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on July 30, 2013, 09:25:44 AM
Mine came pre-assembled.  Just had to pull the unit bearing, clearance the knuckle, and insert the RCVs.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 30, 2013, 09:39:00 AM
the 60 comes with a tool to remove them.  shaft assembly was easy.

install boot into knuckle, install shaft through knuckle boot.  no grinding on the solid nuckles needed.  large hammers and persuation to get the shaft into the boot, then allign with splines while large hammer to get CV to snap into boot.


never new the boots were hard plastic! 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 30, 2013, 09:40:07 AM
doing work!

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on July 30, 2013, 09:41:52 AM
never knew the boots were hard plastic!

The rest of the post before this makes much more sense after reading this haha

Looks frickin awesome, though. Cannot wait to see it in action
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 30, 2013, 09:52:25 AM
ya the boot is like same plastic as a Funnel, thats 5/16" thick
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on July 30, 2013, 09:55:09 AM
That boot is a pain!  I'd repressed memory of that part...  :P
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on July 30, 2013, 10:44:11 AM
RCV's or Superjoints? Which were more of a pain?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 30, 2013, 11:48:35 AM
superjoints lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 30, 2013, 01:52:35 PM
taking friday to run around for metal, welding gas, hydro hoses and such


11 vacation days to burn left
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JWOK on July 30, 2013, 05:16:49 PM
Yeah they are a PITA. Then I had no idea how much grease to put in them. Eric and Brian thought more is better. My knuckles and wheels will never rust:)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on July 30, 2013, 05:41:10 PM
Bah forgot to measure my car for hoses
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on July 30, 2013, 05:59:07 PM
you should of read the directions prior!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 31, 2013, 02:26:06 AM
mine came greased, the dirrections did not say to add any i didnt  said to just put oil on the boot to slide in
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JWOK on July 31, 2013, 10:08:59 AM
They come with a tube of grease and a zerk in the end?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 31, 2013, 11:30:45 AM
tube a grease, zerk is flush on the ball of the CV
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on July 31, 2013, 01:53:24 PM
sMike's got big boy RCVs.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2013, 11:31:12 AM
run around list for tomorrow

4x8 x 1/8 steel for bottom
4x8 x 1/8 aluminum for fire walls floor pan
4x8 x 1/16 for dash
band saw blade
Mig Tank swap
Hydro hoses
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 01, 2013, 11:34:32 AM
Can you get me a sheet of the. 050" aluminum if the still have it? 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2013, 11:36:19 AM
ya,
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2013, 12:15:38 PM
last of header wrap and DS ubolts came in yesterday.

Carved out the rear axle 14bolt pinion last night before FLXmeeting
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2013, 01:08:02 PM
Trouble finding limit straps (instock)

quadratec sucks i dont know why i bothered.  Atleast their chat was useful in <5min to tell me not in stock
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 01, 2013, 01:13:13 PM
http://prpseats.com/Products/55-limit-straps.aspx
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2013, 01:23:33 PM
i want 40s

just sent email to WODesign they have the mill spec 4 web also
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2013, 01:27:01 PM
TJ has them also, sent inquiry
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2013, 01:35:44 PM
Sorry TG trail gear, couple bucks more  but they have them instock, asked guy if they have race program
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2013, 01:46:29 PM
and one email, 2 sentences and a picture of 572 i get 30% off


that is how we do it. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 01, 2013, 01:48:17 PM
Can you get me 30% off on an orbital?  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on August 01, 2013, 02:26:08 PM
run around list for tomorrow

4x8 x 1/8 steel for bottom
4x8 x 1/8 aluminum for fire walls floor pan
4x8 x 1/16 for dash
band saw blade
Mig Tank swap
Hydro hoses

If you're going to surplus, can you pick me up roof and hood material?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on August 01, 2013, 02:28:12 PM
Also..,  awesome I was going to suggest TG limit straps! Saw the ad in crawl!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2013, 02:37:14 PM
retired guys and guys on vacation asking me to do shat



i will see how tomorrow goes, i am on a tight sched
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2013, 02:39:43 PM
limit straps ordered, was cheaper from any other place i called shipped after race discount. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 01, 2013, 02:54:16 PM
I really dont need the aluminum so no worries if you cant get it, It will just be taking up space here anyway.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2013, 11:59:12 PM
rear 5.38's in
rear axle full welded up
burned the bottom up untill i was out of gas

hydro lines measured AN6
trans lines measured AN6
oil lines measured AN8

hit list for tomorrow made.  fawk i better get my ass moving
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 02, 2013, 10:44:22 AM
Got ass rapped at powerdrives
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on August 02, 2013, 10:57:02 AM
beats a trip to every TC in the tri-county area lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Nick on August 02, 2013, 11:17:37 AM
Bench mark hydrolics out in Ontario is real good for hydro stuff and custom lines
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on August 02, 2013, 12:40:27 PM
How much we talking
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 02, 2013, 12:53:23 PM
TSC is cheap and if you just use basic connections.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 02, 2013, 01:26:34 PM
Cheap and easy for basic stuff, yes – but useless if you need AN stuff aren't they?


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 02, 2013, 01:47:18 PM
Jic is what I always use. An is expensive.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 02, 2013, 02:03:12 PM
he talked dash sizes, that makes me think AN.

I don't know what flavor fittings are on the trans and engine.

I'm too spoiled with the cheap leaky simplicity of NPT
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 02, 2013, 02:10:07 PM
Yes, if he the hydro lines were made with actual AN fittings it would be expensive, JIC is functionally the same as AN.

- sizes are 1/16" so a -6 is 6/16" or 3/8" JIC, same 37 degree flare.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on August 02, 2013, 03:23:17 PM
I use this place

http://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?catname=hydraulic&keyword=HHNB

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 02, 2013, 03:37:56 PM
258$ for 3 lines and a bump fitting that adapts pump to jic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 02, 2013, 03:40:04 PM
410$ at surplus

80$ at Jackson for 2 tanks

30$ granger for band saw blade.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on August 02, 2013, 04:13:22 PM
Tossin bills!!!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on August 02, 2013, 04:59:29 PM
258$ for 3 lines and a bump fitting that adapts pump to jic
holy crap,glad i just made what i had work
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on August 02, 2013, 05:32:29 PM
I walked in there laid my cylinder orbital pump and res on the counter and said these need to go together haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 03, 2013, 11:30:35 AM
Same think I did with my Scout box and Dodge pressure line at Parker Hanifan.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 03, 2013, 02:30:44 PM
Just handed him the card.  Whats a jeep on the lift for 3 hrs between friends anyway for some hydro hoses. 

Steel and hdpe  skid ready for install. Finishing all mechanicals that are way easier to get to now before skid on.  Clearancing yikes and getting shafts in prepped taking longer than I want.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 05, 2013, 12:37:35 AM
floor pan and HDPE skid done, welded on / bolted on

Front ram mount / axle welded

front bumps tied in

Rear bumps and track bar tied in

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 05, 2013, 12:38:18 AM
pretty slammed at full bump   8)

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on August 05, 2013, 11:18:08 AM
Looking good!    Target completion date?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 05, 2013, 11:46:56 AM
id like it to move by this weekend in some form, race it 24th
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 05, 2013, 11:49:07 AM
working from ground up. 


drivlines and diffs race prepped minus 14 bolt shafts / 60 slugs for ease of moving

short one 1350 joint for front shaft

need trans shifter

dash / dash tin

wire

plumb brakes / coolers/ fuel

foot pan

side tins

lights


Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 05, 2013, 11:50:36 AM
ryan can you check what coils you have left?


need something light for the front, probably ok for rear what i have.  ill mess with them, then order all new PACS if we get close. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 05, 2013, 11:59:13 AM
14x75
14x100
16x150
18x150

All 3" 2of each.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 05, 2013, 11:59:53 AM
Also 18x200
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 05, 2013, 12:12:18 PM
The reinforcement looks good. Sweet stance at full bump


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 05, 2013, 12:15:17 PM
i will take the 16 and 18 150s off your hands


im still not happy with a plan for getting the back of the chassis a little more tied in, but ill figure it out.  good enough to run it right now for some testing.  not good for 40mph tree location specialist work. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on August 05, 2013, 12:49:14 PM
Will gave us a sneak peak at the new KOH movie this weekend

Hannah wants to know when 572 will be competing
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 05, 2013, 01:17:58 PM
You don't have room for a tree location specialist! Single seat jack of all trades, generalist territory!


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 05, 2013, 04:27:28 PM
racing aug24


or maybe just prerunning and then wheeling the weekend for fun because ill be burned out lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Liz_rn on August 05, 2013, 05:40:09 PM
What kind of frosting do you want? Vanilla from the can? Homemade?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on August 05, 2013, 06:41:46 PM
Smike you only get cake if you don't ditch us and leave right after the race :)

that is how i roll
broken we roll, always work in the shop to be done.

No cake then.

 :o
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 06, 2013, 01:14:25 AM
white cake with the colored dots in it and white frosting or pink frosting from can!






dash tubes, fire wall tubes, and floor pan tubes layed out tonight. 

ready to start placing gages / switch pannel
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on August 06, 2013, 07:55:02 AM
You're going to need cake after this push to finish!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 06, 2013, 08:33:50 AM
some battery cables, fluids, mount a fuel pump and a night of fab- we should be ready for some real vroom vroom noises. 



Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 06, 2013, 12:12:38 PM
I might be able to deliver things tonight.

4-springs ($160)
4-oval tail lights($45)
1- red dot light($5)
2- Amber dots (for Arie)

I should stop at Fastenal today to get that set too.

Anything else?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 06, 2013, 12:52:18 PM
spring price doubled huh haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 06, 2013, 12:53:24 PM
i only have 150$ in my pocket, i will see what matt has haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 06, 2013, 01:04:26 PM
cut harness, hook up a fuel pump- hack some wires, loop trans cooler lines, make 572 run tonight?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 06, 2013, 01:10:20 PM
need coil wires,

and steering hydro hooked up i think

man short of brakes thats really not that bad for a test drive this weekend!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 06, 2013, 01:25:49 PM
3" spring cost me $45 each when purchased.  :'(
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 06, 2013, 01:27:17 PM
I can maybe do a little hacking of wires tonight.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 06, 2013, 01:32:51 PM
ok, i take that back, i forgot they are bigger than 2.0's   :)


it would be sweet if we got the harness down to power, crank, and keep alive, and tac wire for me to hook into later haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 06, 2013, 01:42:54 PM
Im going to Tampa next week and could use the cash.  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 06, 2013, 02:31:05 PM
wheeling sunday?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 06, 2013, 03:09:06 PM
wheeling sunday?

Sure, any ideas where?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 06, 2013, 03:51:06 PM
somewhere local, dont care if its my shop lot lol

should get some whoops set up in the lot haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on August 06, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Has anyone talked to Guy? Or Casey?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on August 06, 2013, 08:23:51 PM
Found out I have to work this weekend so I'm out
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 07, 2013, 12:35:19 AM
express van 5.3: 1     
M4  :   0






we think the computer has a security that needs to be flashed out.  sending out the ECMs tomorrow.

Bah- thought it would run with no flash.


Goes Vroom from .6seconds and sounds sweeeeeet then dies no matter what we do.   


exhaust sounds badd
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 07, 2013, 12:42:20 AM
dash layed out!

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 07, 2013, 01:03:49 AM
looks like security BS goes back as far as 2000 with the express vans

fawk




ill talk to LT1 guy tomorrow and get the fix.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on August 07, 2013, 08:24:58 AM
This exhaust makes full grown men giggle.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on August 07, 2013, 08:25:57 AM
Because they lose their hearing?  :P
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 07, 2013, 08:41:05 AM
the pleasant teaser tune we heard will not be ass loud as i thought
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on August 07, 2013, 09:46:18 AM
only security i know about is the fact it has a remote lock.. usualy means some security feature.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on August 07, 2013, 10:35:41 AM
GM has used VATS for a long time.     

Smike, look up your year make model on ebay for remote start bypass module(s) 

But, if your having the PCM flashed anyway for other(s), then he can just flash out this too.


Im having remote start days flash back...   I think its just a resistor value.

post up the year / vehicle it came out of.   I tell you what you need.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 07, 2013, 03:35:23 PM
fedexd out this afternoon

no worries.


2day was 48$  lol  fawk
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on August 08, 2013, 11:39:08 AM
Quote from: SKOP;19845066
Badass john
Did u dip the heat wrap in water for a few mins before wrapping exh? If not u might wanna then set it to dry out and it'll tighten up a lot more n won't fall off down the road,I didn't do that on my bike exh was a fawking piss off

A thought from Pirate for future reference if you have issues?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 08, 2013, 11:49:49 AM
i will never ever ever use header wrap again- i hate the stuff its a mess and gets everywhere

they have sprays and such also
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 08, 2013, 11:50:24 AM
Brendan confirmed its the VATS that was shutting us down, he should have the ECMs tomorrow
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on August 08, 2013, 12:48:48 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 08, 2013, 01:44:06 PM
Good news. Looks like it will be next week before you are driving it.  :(
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 08, 2013, 02:25:40 PM
ya,  give me this weekend to finish up a lot of stuff that i wouldnt have just to drive it haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 09, 2013, 10:26:21 AM
TJ limit straps are NO JOKE

4 layer strap, 4130 heat treated ends
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 09, 2013, 03:14:52 PM
ECM will be here tomorrow! maybe still some sunday testing if i get my ass in gear tonight
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 10, 2013, 01:09:02 AM
lawn mower fuel system plumbed

hydro hoses started

dash tabs and mounted

all front tubes and such full welded.

ready for wires and tins
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 10, 2013, 01:32:28 AM
any body have the part number for the straight flex line with 3/16 female ends?


hose shopping soon.....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 10, 2013, 10:24:55 AM
this sucks waiting home for mail i have work to do!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 10, 2013, 10:31:26 AM
whoohoo just got it!  yess
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 10, 2013, 05:22:06 PM
Its alive.  First try, car wired legit75%
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on August 10, 2013, 11:46:03 PM
how does it sound  :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 11, 2013, 12:07:22 AM
nasty, bitchy, mean, pissed off the throttle isnt at WOT



 8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 11, 2013, 12:09:20 AM
pannel and relays all hooked up hydro hoses sunk through first foot well tin!


Troy, spenser, and Mike stopped over and we got it holding water and let it warm up and close loop.  Mike is awesome at tunring a water pump with a corless drill and some wire
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 11, 2013, 09:45:02 AM
Easier than sitting on the hood of 571 doing it by hand.

Thing is gonna be a monster. I like it.

Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 11, 2013, 06:08:30 PM
2 turns lock to lock idle
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 11, 2013, 11:48:49 PM
first lap around the shop lot, it moves it self :)



on the the details.... starting with brakes!



Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on August 12, 2013, 07:55:41 AM
Yea!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 12, 2013, 08:18:43 AM
Nice!


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 12, 2013, 08:54:29 AM
probably need a little smaller orbital-  not sure.  i bet it will make things hot they way it is.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 12, 2013, 09:00:28 AM
last summit order! hopefully lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on August 12, 2013, 07:32:39 PM
probably need a little smaller orbital-  not sure.  i bet it will make things hot they way it is.

what do you have in it now?  9.7?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 12, 2013, 11:16:50 PM
ya



bought 5 wrong flex lines fawk.  didnt notice diff between metric and non inverted on a few ends
Title: Re: 572
Post by: cracker on August 13, 2013, 02:16:18 PM
Sounds like a nice course for maiden race
I know we are going to hear what no rocks?  Well we made it easier to try and keep to finish rate high.  The harder we make it, less finish.  We want finishers.

Ok here we go.  Rocky a little. Down hills.  Fast yes no river crossings. I will bypass that one.  Lol.

I am going to say about 10 miles.    5 laps


(http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv253/zj98/null-3.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 14, 2013, 12:12:18 AM
Nuway and two late trips to Advance and back this pile has brakes


Summit order tomorrow and lock down a few things we should get good test run around the shop.


Have to wire up coolers, plumb coolers, mount coil res
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 14, 2013, 04:28:32 PM
picking up my spare TH400 with a fresh rebuild for the shelf tonight
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 15, 2013, 08:50:04 AM
she rips pretty good.  still a few things to button up.

Ordered the wrong size gages fawk

2 pole switch for fan hi low is monster also lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 15, 2013, 08:54:25 AM
sitting at a pretty good race height with 200/250 in the rear, 150/150 in the front.  its probably going to be a little high with Nitrogen charged

23-24" belly 68" roof right now
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on August 15, 2013, 09:00:15 AM
What's left?  Tins, gauges?  Got to be close to "field" testing!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 15, 2013, 09:12:11 AM


wire cooler fans
alternator charge wire
install front shaft
install front drive slugs
fill front rear diffs
fill case
figure out how to flush / fill trans
bolt roof on
supply vac to brake booster
limit straps
couple skid bolts install
top lock link bolts / shock bolts
redlocktight / check steering hdware
front lug nuts
full weld both track bars
mount PCM
tidy up some wires / cables / hoses
charge shocks / bumps
harness tabs


shaft guard
foot well tin
mud guard for gages / panel

Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 15, 2013, 10:16:09 AM
Flush trans with its own pump through cooler lines?

Shit, I think you'd have to pump it in, it's just pressure out not draw through. Hmm


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on August 15, 2013, 10:18:11 AM
It's a pain, but I did my Jeep and Burb through the lines. Let it piss a couple quarts into a bucket, shutoff and add two quarts, repeat until cherry red again. Probably wastes some fluid, but better than dropping pan if you don't have a reason to.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 15, 2013, 10:21:39 AM
HF has this thing you hook to a shop vac, i was thinking about trying it. 


my own fault pan should have gotten pulled and temp sensor / bung / aftermarket pan should have gotten installed
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 15, 2013, 10:47:06 AM
Nitrogen can be anywhere from 100 to 200psi
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 16, 2013, 12:08:12 AM


wire cooler fans
alternator charge wire
install front shaft
install front drive slugs
fill front rear diffs
fill case
figure out how to flush / fill trans

bolt roof on
supply vac to brake booster
limit straps
couple skid bolts install
top lock link bolts / shock bolts
redlocktight / check steering hdware
front lug nuts
full weld both track bars
mount PCM
tidy up some wires / cables / hoses
charge shocks / bumps
harness tabs


shaft guard
foot well tin
mud guard for gages / panel
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 16, 2013, 10:54:11 AM
side note- motor has way more ass than 571 for some reason, maybe its just the 5.38 gears and noise it makes but it feels LS good  :) 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 16, 2013, 12:11:41 PM
gears and noise. they clearly need to race each other though.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 16, 2013, 12:17:50 PM
I have most of the tabs your ordered here in stock, if you are in a hurry for them.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 16, 2013, 01:04:39 PM
just replacing stuff i stole from Matts pile, no hurry on this one. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 16, 2013, 01:12:24 PM
its also a higher HP motor 4 year newer i believe
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 16, 2013, 01:20:07 PM
ya-

The 1999 LM7 engine produced 270 hp (201 kW) and 315 lb·ft (427 N·m), 2000-2003 engines made 285 hp (213 kW) and 325 lb·ft (441 N·m). The 2004-2007 engines made 295 hp (220 kW) and 335 lb·ft (454 N·m)



so stock its 15-25hp more, tuned it might even be more of a difference.  they figured out how to cam away EGR on this gen also. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 16, 2013, 01:59:29 PM
they figured out how to cam away EGR on this gen also. 

If it's a static cam, that's got to be bad for it in tuned form in my mind. Unless they did away with the need for it entirely on the tuning side
Title: Re: 572
Post by: orange anchor on August 16, 2013, 02:41:57 PM
is it ready for testing at Lake X?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 16, 2013, 04:10:09 PM
will be ready one way or another tonight!  i want a full speed rip before dark on M4 grounds!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 17, 2013, 01:31:11 AM
fully preped and beat on around M4.  Fucking thing leaks anywhere gear oil is so that will have to be delt with next week. 


Roof on and coolers doing jobs.  shocks and bumps charged ready for some shakedown. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: cracker on August 17, 2013, 01:14:31 PM
I am next door at Ontario County park and could hear the sweat sounds for a while.. Then it got quiet.. Hope all is fine.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 17, 2013, 02:50:01 PM
All is well just a leaky brake booster.  Good test run
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on August 17, 2013, 02:53:48 PM
This thing is sweat!

Sounds awesome on the rev limiter.... ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2013, 12:25:38 AM
needs more brakes
rear 14 bolt needs wheel seals / vent added
front 60 needs inner axle seals
RCV boot clearance issue  - i think the boot is rubbing on the king pin threads, weird.
needs expanded steel on the floor tin
tree bars
trans dip stick moved


bunch of other shit normal prep
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 18, 2013, 04:36:29 PM
Good stuff. Working most nights I'm guessing? Lmk.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2013, 11:04:45 PM
Tony, Matt, Myself, and Another FLX guy went to Pines today to rip around.

Buggy rips hard, no issues still. trans seems to not care on near vertical climbs.  The deeper gear of the 4l60e and way better shift points along with the 5.38s make this thing feel like twice the power to the ground as the other car.  is pretty silly with your foot down.


Fixed the case leak last night, two pin holes in the PTO cover rotted out- swapped with an SM465 PTO cover i had laying in the shop. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2013, 11:37:39 PM
i have decided not to race this weekend.   i am going to continue to prep the car, but i just dont want to rush it be cause it will stay hacked. 


I still plan to take the car down Friday afternoon, prerun the course but wreck wheel the weekend.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on August 19, 2013, 07:40:57 AM
 :( for racing, but probably the right thing to do.  Can't wait to see this thing in action!  8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on August 19, 2013, 08:19:46 AM
define wreck wheeling
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on August 19, 2013, 08:20:43 AM
Van Motor FTW...
are you sure you dont want a 6 popper...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 19, 2013, 09:09:56 AM
define wreck wheeling


Recreational wheeling, while attempting to find weak points (wreck the car off course)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on August 19, 2013, 09:27:51 AM
(non-racer version)

= recreational off-roading until something breaks on your pile.

or

= recreational off-roading with whatever junk (aka wreck) you brought to the trail.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on August 20, 2013, 07:34:51 AM
Well put Mark
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 20, 2013, 08:37:23 AM
I think if it as recreationally wheeling - without mercy. When in doubt throttle out. Give 'er. You ain't stuck if it ain't broke. Etc.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jaysenodell on August 20, 2013, 12:19:09 PM
:( for racing, but probably the right thing to do.  Can't wait to see this thing in action!  8)
Got to see it (mostly as it left me way behind) Sunday. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 20, 2013, 11:49:34 PM
winch hooked up
harness mounts in and seat locked down
foot well tins and expanded steel traction welded in

needs some shaft and rear fire walls, a longer fuel vent and tins to pass tech

needs a horn too that i dont have fawk

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: awl4928 on August 21, 2013, 12:02:42 AM
I'll sell you the horn off my totalled motorcycle for the price of free
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on August 21, 2013, 07:02:04 AM
When did you wreck the bike?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on August 21, 2013, 08:35:00 AM
I've got another a-oo-ga horn I'll donate!  I'll throw it in the truck for RC.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 22, 2013, 12:52:22 AM
fork me i still have a ton of shit to do.


got a hood (looks like shit), interior pan, PCM mounted, couple things welded up, more real plumbing mounts done, front track bar brace welded in and thats about it.



Needs side tins, chassis brace on front, limit straps, rear tin and lights hooked up, fuel cell fire wall, rear mid shaft gaurd, oil pressure gage and idiot light, window net


bah.... need another 3 nights not 1
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 22, 2013, 09:42:16 AM
needed tech items,

2 fire ext
window net
first aid kit
catch cans (think im good)
Numbers
Amber rear light on ignition
rear firewall side to side
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 23, 2013, 01:06:51 AM
packing a fire suit....




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Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on August 23, 2013, 07:34:30 AM
wrong number
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 23, 2013, 07:44:12 AM
well, needs numbers on all 4 sides to pass tech, so we had priorites with what was at hand haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on August 23, 2013, 07:46:59 AM
you can’t name a new vessel an old vessels name... bad luck..
switch that shit around   715....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on August 23, 2013, 08:04:18 AM
this thing looks fawking awesome  8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on August 23, 2013, 08:29:58 AM
Get some sweet Lowe's mailbox numbers!  :P
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 23, 2013, 08:33:02 AM
Numbers are not necessary. Run it.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 23, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
numbers are necessary according to rules

brake lights or horn is not. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 23, 2013, 09:11:02 AM
They are not too strict on some of the "rules" 

I had no numbers on the Profender car.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on August 25, 2013, 10:21:05 AM


brake lights or horn is not.
http://rochester.craigslist.org/pts/4010428133.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 25, 2013, 09:09:19 PM
this thing plain works.  i like it a lot.



did anything 571 has done and more in 1 day.  love the solid 3 links- im sold.  curous if i under sized the track bar rod ends though see how they last. 


lots of oil leaks to fix, fluids and tool storage needs to be delt with, and finish up the rear of the chassis.   



jotters is fun now :)   
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 25, 2013, 09:39:00 PM
this thing plain works

Can't say much more than that.

I'm blown away. None of the rear engine issues I was thinking of as possible. Climbs like a billy goat.

Hope the gears last, coast-side ring gear loading is the only concern I've got left and that'll take a while to prove out.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2013, 08:33:16 AM
loving the high belly.  its really nice not to have to belly flop and pole vault with HP over stuff. 

hit it once or twice running walking in the park at race pace while the rest of the group was in convoy headed back



couldnt get up stair step, but i bet ill be able to run a little more to the right on pitman rock
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on August 26, 2013, 09:15:59 AM
Did you get lonely all by yourself
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2013, 09:31:45 AM
nope, the 4l60e and leaking 205 kept me company

Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on August 26, 2013, 09:53:23 AM
Facebook videos look awesome. Sorry I missed the maiden voyage
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on August 26, 2013, 10:27:16 AM
If you gotta order 205 output seals I could use 2
Where do you guys get those small lug nuts from,fastenal?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2013, 10:37:38 AM
small lug nuts?


my 205 is coming out, i hope to find what the leaking issues are and solve them.  it leaks 1 quart in 6 hrs of use
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on August 26, 2013, 10:40:21 AM
Ya ,mine take like a 1 1/8" socket to take off you and Ryan's look like a 3/4" socket
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2013, 10:44:48 AM
are they 1/2" or 9/16" studs?

ebay a full set of enclosed lug nuts that use 3/4 socket for 9/16" stud are like 24$ for 32   they are awesome, Gbroslostbomer, 571, 572 all have them now


http://www.ebay.com/itm/32-LUG-NUTS-CHROME-9-16-ACORN-STYLE-9-16-9-16-9-16-DODGE-RAM-HEMI-DUALLY/300776846464?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D17393%26meid%3D842540795162519165%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D8093%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D290903335972%26
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2013, 11:07:01 AM
this is so cheap is not worth the hassel of getting PNs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Chevy-Dodge-NP205-Transfer-Case-Gasket-Seal-Kit-/370674359722 


if matt and i get one, you want a full kit troy too?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on August 26, 2013, 12:19:00 PM
Yes please and thank you
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 26, 2013, 12:42:54 PM
me three
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2013, 12:52:34 PM
4 kits ordered
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 26, 2013, 01:04:57 PM
gracias
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2013, 02:51:10 PM
Videos are uploading to youtube, I think this is the right public link to my recent uploads:

http://www.youtube.com/user/mrmindless/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_index=0
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on August 27, 2013, 06:09:41 PM
are they 1/2" or 9/16" studs?

ebay a full set of enclosed lug nuts that use 3/4 socket for 9/16" stud are like 24$ for 32   they are awesome, Gbroslostbomer, 571, 572 all have them now


http://www.ebay.com/itm/32-LUG-NUTS-CHROME-9-16-ACORN-STYLE-9-16-9-16-9-16-DODGE-RAM-HEMI-DUALLY/300776846464?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D17393%26meid%3D842540795162519165%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D8093%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D290903335972%26
i was thinking more like these,i think ryan has them,these seem like a good deal
http://www.ebay.com/itm/32-LUG-NUTS-8-LUG-WHEELS-OPEN-ACORN-FOR-DODGE-RAM-TRUCK-9-16-SOME-FORD-CHEVY-/140970099452?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20d27902fc&vxp=mtr#ht_1692wt_917
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 27, 2013, 06:10:02 PM
Let me know when you are swapping springs. I will try to get there to do some shock tuning while they are off.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on August 27, 2013, 06:11:04 PM
Those came with my spacers. Enclosed will protect the studs
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on August 27, 2013, 07:44:26 PM
is the pitch on those 18,they dont list it?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 27, 2013, 09:47:28 PM
not sure when i will get to working on the car- things are really starting to get in my way and piss me off. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 27, 2013, 10:24:01 PM
spent some time reading the homebuilt paper work i submitted for back in 2011 for the other car.  Looks like having a 200X motor kills the deal to do it full legit-  must have emissions for motor year. 


getting a VW title or some other title... bah!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on August 27, 2013, 10:52:40 PM
Sometimes I can't imagine what was going on in their minds.  Any newer engine is going to be running 100% cleaner even without all of the emissions than the older exempt engines.  Why put a restriction on it like that?  Stupid NY.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on August 27, 2013, 11:48:41 PM
I'm assuming it's not as simple as adding an OBD port and a cat?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jaysenodell on August 28, 2013, 10:19:55 AM
Sometimes I can't imagine what was going on in their minds.  Any newer engine is going to be running 100% cleaner even without all of the emissions than the older exempt engines.  Why put a restriction on it like that?  Stupid NY.
Isn't all about the $$? How else can they justify the constant increases in fees (aka taxes) on any motor vehicle?

But I digress...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 28, 2013, 10:25:56 AM
so list the fees and key terms defined, dont DMV jungle gym it into a 4 month unknown process
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 30, 2013, 01:38:39 AM
big boy rear shaft welded up tonight
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 01, 2013, 12:37:41 AM
new rear shaft installed
rear 14 bolt hub seals replaced
front 60 torn down, inner axle seals installed
axle vents both ends installed
205 pulled on the bench and re sealed / re gasketed
oil cooler block off plated tapped and oil pressure sender hooked up for gage, idiot light sender installed
dash and leg padding installed
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 01, 2013, 10:16:33 PM
no longer leaking.  YESSSS



needs a radio, cup holders, tree bars, some other stuff
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 04, 2013, 04:31:50 PM
swapping coils tuning shocks tonight!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 04, 2013, 11:48:35 PM
100/150 front less compression and less rebound
150/250 rear less compression not so much but still less rebound

no ride height change, fixed -1" preload on rear driver corner
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 05, 2013, 02:08:27 PM
(http://www.offroaders.com/tech/images/autogage4.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 05, 2013, 03:19:30 PM
http://www.offroaders.com/Search/ isn't a good image url

EDIT: assholes....

maybe a clickable is clickable
http://www.offroaders.com/tech/images/autogage4.jpg
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 05, 2013, 03:25:14 PM
works for me as i posted it hmm
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on September 05, 2013, 03:28:06 PM
me dos
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 05, 2013, 03:30:32 PM
lost the instructions for the tac.  was nice of them to put huge warning labels on the wires not to hook them up wrong and void warranty- you think they could have put a description for the 4 wires on those labels- no
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 05, 2013, 03:35:10 PM
weird, didn't work for me and right click to view in new tab brought me to their search page
Title: Re: 572
Post by: cracker on September 05, 2013, 04:02:25 PM
weird, didn't work for me and right click to view in new tab brought me to their search page

same here.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 05, 2013, 11:35:44 PM
shock tune much better but its got more to go.


i think the front needs more taken out of both, and the rear needs more taken out of just the rebound



ass end wants to go over the front when jumped just like the other car does.  not sure if its driving or not.  i dont think i was wimping it, and stayed on power
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 06, 2013, 11:58:50 PM
limit straps all 4 corners installed,

ready for more sky time
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 07, 2013, 11:00:27 PM
gps in
winch control mounted in dash
tack installed, but i guess i need a resister and white wire pin 10 for 03+ ECMs to work
tins cal''d up
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 15, 2013, 09:06:13 PM
flogged the shit out of this car several times this weekend, it refuses to fail.  i am pleased.



couple small known issues that occurred


popped rad hose that was exposed, new aluminum straight neck in hand
bent rear mid shaft ( pillow block needs to move further back and shaft material upgraded
broke limit strap eye day 1 obstical 1, possible mounting issue
PSC ram loose internally
left header flange contacts plug boots cracked a plug, coil is grounding out somtimes- meh
slammed knee on orbital mount in otters trail, need to fix or move or pad better, no good. 
front suck down loop broke off, needs more steel
bent front track bar, needs more wall

several rock bounce attempts inside shoot the moon exit, had to turn Rs in mudd with bounce assaults on right side.  that trail is nuts now.

All 3 cars made it up both talismans today.  i gave up on lower, then gif and jeff made it, so i hit it harder and made it barely with lots of Rs and smoke



front end needs more shock tune too bouncy going slow
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on September 17, 2013, 11:18:33 AM
I watched the flogging 572 took.  It was impressive.   I have to say, I have never seen a burnout on a tree that was still standing with a wheel that was 5 ft up it before.   We need to start taking more videos.   ;)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 17, 2013, 01:24:57 PM
flog by brail to where the traction is....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 20, 2013, 03:51:24 PM
Failed TG strap Rc47 bolt ends
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 20, 2013, 10:59:23 PM
i guess "it'l be fine" is no longer good for my wreck wheeling style.  Chassis welds broke in 5 places around rear end....always knew it needed more tube, just didnt think it needed it for a RC wreck wheel trip....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on September 21, 2013, 07:50:01 AM
The buggy weekend was pretty intense...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 21, 2013, 10:52:05 AM
Wow. That's surprisingly many


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on September 21, 2013, 11:38:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjED522hsW8
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on September 21, 2013, 11:44:52 AM
i guess "it'l be fine" is no longer good for my wreck wheeling style.  Chassis welds broke in 5 places around rear end....always knew it needed more tube, just didnt think it needed it for a RC wreck wheel trip....

we are not nice to the buggies  8)

define welds broke.   I would think the material next to the welds broke.  your welding looks good.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 21, 2013, 07:16:58 PM
ya material failed next to welds
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 21, 2013, 07:20:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjED522hsW8

that was me wreck wheeling.


then you and jeff had to hawg your way up so i hit 10 times more 3x harder and made it lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 21, 2013, 07:41:30 PM
someone asked me if there were plans to build my buggy from today hahaha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 23, 2013, 11:13:48 AM
broken material ground out / re welded.  6 or 7 tubes notched in and tac'd up.  good start about half way to rear end finish. 


F Mud.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: orange anchor on September 23, 2013, 12:21:40 PM
I feel like we are just driving around looking for something to break the buggies.  In one day of "Wreckage Wheeling" I broke a CV, Front stub and rear axle shaft. Boy, did we have fun though.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on September 23, 2013, 02:41:16 PM
I feel like we are just driving around looking for something to break the buggies.  In one day of "Wreckage Wheeling" I broke a CV, Front stub and rear axle shaft. Boy, did we have fun though.

No.  No.  No.    We are looking for challenges to test our design and fabrication skills.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on September 23, 2013, 02:48:22 PM
Yup.  Does that mean that Jeff's fab skills failed miserably?  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 23, 2013, 02:57:16 PM
im pretty sure im down to either an electrical failure, or tires


probably should get a trans gage, but thats why it got two big boy coolers.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on September 23, 2013, 06:14:45 PM
Yup.  Does that mean that Jeff's fab skills failed miserably?  ;D
No.  That means he has exceeded the components operating limits.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on September 23, 2013, 06:34:34 PM
Several times.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 29, 2013, 09:55:56 PM
this hawg needs a new shifter before next trip. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 09, 2013, 02:05:20 PM
new limit straps on the way



need a night in the shop to inspect, complete cooler/ tool storage, and fix trans shifter. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on October 10, 2013, 10:27:01 AM

new limit straps on the way



need a night in the shop to inspect, complete cooler/ tool storage, and fix trans shifter.

Check fuel issue too. She was running rough going on the trailer at WW.


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 10, 2013, 10:32:07 AM
forgot about that, thanks.


it was fine when i pulled into trailer last week.  when the problem occured, the dash indicator light was dim and flickering, has to be electrical supply issue.



Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 14, 2013, 12:27:02 PM
trail gear sent me 2 new limit straps, free overnight ed.  thats pretty stellar service, when they gave me half off on the first 4 shipped lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on October 14, 2013, 09:26:08 PM
you move your steering valve?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 15, 2013, 12:54:03 AM
/no     :o


prep done

some fliuids
fixed rear limit strap
HD front suck down
added some front tie downs
made shifter cable solid rod


needs a bath, fuel, and straps. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 18, 2013, 02:41:47 PM
Teaser:


ride height of 572 soon to be 3" higher    8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on November 18, 2013, 02:57:03 PM
are the axles getting higher?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 18, 2013, 03:40:16 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on November 18, 2013, 03:41:50 PM
so you got 45.5s :o
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 18, 2013, 03:45:13 PM
good effort, but no
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 18, 2013, 03:45:58 PM
bald KRTs to the cords run about 38" tall   
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on November 18, 2013, 03:46:37 PM
Bawgrz
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on November 18, 2013, 03:56:12 PM
hawgrz
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on November 18, 2013, 04:13:20 PM
east cost mud flingers

bog n grog pantie droppers

rock bouncin hill climbers

RCQ boat paddles



...ok thats all i got. sweet rubberz  8)

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 18, 2013, 05:13:16 PM
deck over status when needed :) :D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on November 18, 2013, 05:54:20 PM
I've been thinking about how nice 102" would be. You've got the lilwedgie though, she's full width isn't she?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on November 18, 2013, 06:25:54 PM
30" travel triple bypasses?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on November 19, 2013, 07:04:26 AM
Bawgrz
???

Bawgrz only work in the mud pit silly!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on November 19, 2013, 09:06:34 AM
43" sx stickys are also n the blem site, $545 each
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 19, 2013, 10:00:52 AM
WTF those were not there yesterday

shat.  really wanted to stay with 17s bah
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on November 19, 2013, 10:08:38 AM

deck over status when needed :) :D

Oversized load!


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on November 19, 2013, 10:15:48 AM
Call and have them change it, or did they ship already?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 19, 2013, 10:19:33 AM
meh
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 26, 2013, 01:45:43 PM
new rubber in the back of the dodge.  yummy
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 02, 2013, 10:22:54 AM
H1 12bolts are neat.  they have this oval shaped valve stem hole- he gave me these things that bolt in and make it NPT.  weird.  I welded and re drilled for normal stems.  Cut the rubber run flats down with a chain saw :o  took about an hour of grunting to get the method down on the first on but i got these guys mounted up Friday.  They were nice and painted.  They were re centered to about 3.5" BS by a real company with nice pressed centers.  The 5th wheel i dont need looks a little hack with a flat center, meh.  New combo looks HD.  looks crazy.  Also started on a light bar Saturday and get it mounted and wired last night.  Fixed a couple other issues and ran a real cell vent.  Had to move the coolers and tweak the upper radiator hose to keep the bar inside the chassis. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on December 02, 2013, 10:28:30 AM
Looks good!  KOH ready!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on December 02, 2013, 10:49:25 AM
fawk those are some big girls!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 02, 2013, 12:25:07 PM
fawk those are some big girls!
8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M on December 02, 2013, 03:52:04 PM
I'll go the other way... . tires look too small, you need 54s!  :o

of course I am kidding. looks awesome!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M on December 02, 2013, 03:53:54 PM
you're also using the boggers the wrong way    ;D


(http://www.fototime.com/%7BF23009EE-A35B-4268-BBF6-6A6DAF2A9979%7D/standardpict/exp=f&modt=38883.404576794&ssdyn=1/P1010043.JPG)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 02, 2013, 03:54:23 PM
looking forward to some hill killing saturday to see how they dig.  i got a new air cleaner too.  HP felt like it was down smoking on trail5.  air filter was sucked shut packed with mud lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on December 02, 2013, 04:06:41 PM
going to waynes?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 02, 2013, 04:12:06 PM
ya matt and I going as long as weather is not shat icy sleety salty wet
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on December 02, 2013, 06:53:32 PM
Yeah I'm on the same page, Titan tires are not great lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 03, 2013, 09:30:46 AM
boggers jump snow mounds pretty good.  feels good on the car.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on December 03, 2013, 11:25:07 AM
i like bikinis
Title: 572 wide bottom
Post by: mr.mindless on December 06, 2013, 02:42:42 PM
crappy. You're pushing 102" OoT? wide bottom!
Title: Re: 572 wide bottom
Post by: M4wdFab on December 06, 2013, 03:21:09 PM
92" wide with boggers in front 91" in rear

mats trailer is 90" door open, kitchen hauler is 89"

didnt measure my little enclosed

16 lugs with a dewalt and a high lift wouldnt be the end of the world, and worth it to avoid a salt bath
Title: Re: 572 wide bottom
Post by: mr.mindless on December 06, 2013, 03:34:25 PM
oh, doors! duh.
Title: Re: 572 wide bottom
Post by: orange anchor on December 06, 2013, 04:28:52 PM
sounds like M4 might have to use a tape measure before anymore late night purchases LOL
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 06, 2013, 05:19:55 PM
we new it would be wide and i have a wedge.  they were bought for Nates and jeffs and other local woods wheeling really.  Wedge duty trips.  Anything far we go to is for Rocks and KRTs so id have the enclosed trailers then
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 07, 2013, 03:32:49 PM
3 wheel status.  Failure somewhere between diff and left rcv boot.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on December 07, 2013, 05:06:33 PM
Toyotas also 3 wheel status
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on December 07, 2013, 05:08:43 PM
And not running status
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on December 07, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
3 wheel status.  Failure somewhere between diff and left rcv boot.

How did the hoggers do?   

I bet they are not nice to drivetrain parts.       lots of traction and mass

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 07, 2013, 05:23:55 PM
Didn't really get to try them out.  Broke on bounty hill on a pre full yetassult that I wasn't really on it yet
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 08, 2013, 03:28:56 PM
short side inner RCV shaft gave up.


time to go to the 4K$ 300M option
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 08, 2013, 03:45:37 PM
hmm i guess they are only 3K awesome :o
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on December 08, 2013, 04:18:26 PM
short side inner RCV shaft gave up.

 :o  >:(

Warranty?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 08, 2013, 04:37:11 PM
sounds like they will allow you to upgrade your warranty to 300M shafts.  didnt know they were only 800 more. 

wont be taking the same shafts to the desert thats for sure!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on December 08, 2013, 05:33:33 PM
So much for "indestructible"...  :(
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on December 08, 2013, 06:16:08 PM
I think mike's application falls out of the suggested guidelines for indestructible.

But I won't say anything. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on December 08, 2013, 07:10:30 PM
I assume that location of failure raped the carrier? I have an open one if you need it.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on December 08, 2013, 07:24:47 PM
I think mike's application falls out of the suggested guidelines for indestructible.

Good point.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on December 08, 2013, 08:48:26 PM
I think mike's application falls out of the suggested guidelines for indestructible.

But I won't say anything.


plenty of guys on 44's that dont brake those.  And with way more HP. 
 I would think the pinion at the yoke would have broke first.   Or maybe the 1350 joint at the axle end.
I think he got a defective one.


 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Nick on December 08, 2013, 09:01:48 PM
Burn it.  :P
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on December 08, 2013, 10:24:01 PM

I think he got a defective one.

I'd tend to agree. And also agreed on what the weak points SHOULD be, much further up the chain from the axles shafts.


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on December 09, 2013, 08:33:22 AM


I think he got a defective one.

I'd tend to agree. And also agreed on what the weak points SHOULD be, much further up the chain from the axles shafts.


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Same I was sure it had to be the spider gear welds. Upgrade to 300m doesn't sound like a bad idea though. Might try and get a spool with that upgrade?


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 09, 2013, 09:24:07 AM
i was surprised i was able to use 2 telescoping magnates and with some jiggling the chunk of spline slid out of the carrier though the tube.  Carrier does not appear to be f'd just the seal.  I didn't pull the diff cause no point in 2x work.  it got a spindle and hub thrown back on and stuck in the trailer. 


Ill look at spool costs.  id say the weak link is still the stock rusty front 84 GMC drive shaft with one semi dry original 1350 ujoint that was in said drive shaft when i picked it up out of the scrap pile lol.  it is 5.38 times less ass there and really only 300hp on a cold day.  A ring gear running backwards or the shafts still have to be the weak link.


300M and maybe a spool will be the fix.  needed a fluid change and a diff cover bolt guard is near in the future

for what i have done with KRTs in the rocks, i dont think it was defective.  anger and HP could not break them at least 2X
   
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on December 09, 2013, 09:31:53 AM
many spool options all the way from 155-355

http://www.summitracing.com/search?SortBy=BestKeywordMatch&SortOrder=Ascending&keyword=60%2035%20spool

http://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-7185666-dana-60-spool-4-series-35-spline.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 09, 2013, 09:34:25 AM
RCVs now for rockwell 2.5 tons


47 spline    :o
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 09, 2013, 10:06:29 AM
237 for a yukon 4.56 and up isnt terible.  would get rid of the spacer i have now.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 09, 2013, 10:34:08 AM
email into RCV.

their live chat is not so live.


probably have a 4130 shaft warrantied- either sell the set or keep as spare.  Then just get another full 300M set because no sense in having 3 spare weak shafts. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 09, 2013, 01:21:40 PM
any more air videos of 572 haha.  thats a fun rock jump hill


i like the one josh got of 4 wheel roosts though two gears launch
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on December 09, 2013, 01:28:05 PM
that ledge looks so small on video
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 09, 2013, 01:48:45 PM
its only like 4'  :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 10, 2013, 12:48:26 PM
Called RCV- they said it broke the way they break. 

287$ option to upgrade the shaft to 300M, or free warranty of the 4130 shaft.


the upgraded 300M kit has 300M CV's so ill just warranty the shaft, and get another full set of 300M RCVs. 



he was very supprised to hear 300hp and 44" tires broke a shaft.  same response copper fab gave me when i was the only guy to break one of there sway bars so far.  Cant wait to break a solid knuckle next!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 10, 2013, 12:50:04 PM
RCV Performance Products
611 Beacon Street
Loves Park, IL 61111
Phone: 815.877.7473
Fax: 815.877.1218
sales@rcvperformance.com

RMA 121013AKWR
Craig
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on December 10, 2013, 12:53:14 PM
Glad they warrantied it!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on December 10, 2013, 01:30:35 PM
a company like that lives and survives on reputation...  was never a thought in my mind they wouldn’t
Title: Re: 572
Post by: SlvrJK on December 10, 2013, 07:38:55 PM
Told ya they'd take care of you.  They are good dudes over there who stand behind their product.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 10, 2013, 07:51:36 PM
Chromos w CTMs
12 year old bald boggers
And 68 HP...
Thats how its done SON.
Dont risk it w anything less.

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 10, 2013, 08:11:12 PM
you have much still to learn erik haha


CTMs are silly when you break chromo shafts (shafts not yoke failure)  im up to 4 or 5 now i believe
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on December 11, 2013, 07:56:21 AM
Old interco's and low HP is clearly the way to go!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on December 11, 2013, 08:18:02 AM
Chromos w CTMs
12 year old bald boggers
And 68 HP...
Thats how its done SON.
Dont risk it w anything less.

the AMC 360 will drop in my Buggy CJ

This and brand new Boggers won't bode well...  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 11, 2013, 08:59:14 AM
RCV shafts are really neat to get apart.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on December 11, 2013, 09:52:47 AM
PITA to get together in a CJ D30
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 11, 2013, 09:55:41 AM
same as 60

do you have to break ball joints free?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on December 11, 2013, 11:39:03 AM
and grind down and assemble stub shaft with knuckle...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 11, 2013, 12:18:19 PM
Chromos w CTMs
12 year old bald boggers
And 68 HP...
Thats how its done SON.
Dont risk it w anything less.

the AMC 360 will drop in my Buggy CJ

This and brand new Boggers won't bode well...  ;D


Itll be fine!
Besides I can just buy all smikes leftover axles.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 11, 2013, 12:36:03 PM
chromo RCVs for sale soon.  shaft in the mail headed back to RCV

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 11, 2013, 01:36:40 PM
4.56 and up full spool ordered.  boggers will not win.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on December 11, 2013, 01:41:14 PM
time for 573 on rockwells  :o
Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on December 11, 2013, 01:43:00 PM
Next weak link.  R&P
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 11, 2013, 01:44:03 PM
4 wheel steer full 300M RCV'd 47 spline rocks with 53 Mickys, ya.   later.  still into racing for now. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 11, 2013, 01:45:30 PM
Next weak link.  R&P


we talked about this, and dont forget- i running a 60 R&P on the coast side backwards.  good thing though if that blows, ill just cut out the center and put a 14 section in with all the same parts
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on December 11, 2013, 02:17:26 PM
Next weak link.  R&P


we talked about this, and dont forget- i running a 60 R&P on the coast side backwards.  good thing though if that blows, ill just cut out the center and put a 14 section in with all the same parts

14b has the same weakness, no? Or just not worried about strength of that monster
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jaysenodell on December 11, 2013, 02:21:31 PM
just looked up what 'rockwells' were. I think I'm most intrigued by the pinion mounted disc brake options. I'm looking at that and thinking "how much simpler could it be?" I'm assuming there is only a solid shaft in the axle tube for that to work. Or could you use an open/auto/lsd and still use pinion braking?


Granted 572 would never use anything but straight welded axle anyway...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on December 11, 2013, 02:26:18 PM
pinion disk brakes are primarily used as a parking brake..
they are available for 231’s D300’s, Atlas etc…


I would think.. if you use a pinion brake at any type of speed the DS is spinning a hell of a lot faster than the wheels with less mechanical advantage...

shits gona brake (get it)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jaysenodell on December 11, 2013, 02:31:47 PM
shits gona brake (get it)
Ha!


That parking brake makes more sense than driving brake. I would also expect they require some type of balancing too.


I'm thinking 573 (should she ever exist) should be built on rockwells. Then we could start a pool on how long it takes Mike to need new shafts.


2" diameter shafts... I think it would take him a bit longer with those.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: cracker on December 11, 2013, 02:34:26 PM
monster trucks use pinion brakes..
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on December 11, 2013, 02:59:34 PM
Rockwell pinion brakes are mounted on the 3rd member, so driveshaft strength would not be a concern
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on December 11, 2013, 03:03:10 PM
A lot of rockwell guys use strictly pinion brake.  They are a lot more heavy duty than those designed for a parking brake.  But yes they are much less functional at speed.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on December 11, 2013, 03:12:29 PM
http://www.rockwellrebuildmanual.com/pinion-brake-or-wheel-brakes-for-your-toploader-rockwell-axle/

yup...

and double yup....  wouldn’t not want them on a street or race rig....

all I’m picturing is 65 mph and a panic stop…
driveshaft lock up....  crunching and snapping to follow...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 11, 2013, 03:17:04 PM
Umm mechanical  engineer disagrees.  I get 5.38 revolutions now of pad on rotor to stop 1 rotation of a tire?  The mechanical advantage is the other way.   What do larger rotors do... more linear feet of dragging per* wheel rev.   ( pressures and surface area considered)


Didn't read link you posted arie yet
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 11, 2013, 03:23:12 PM
http://www.rockwellrebuildmanual.com/pinion-brake-or-wheel-brakes-for-your-toploader-rockwell-axle/

yup...

and double yup....  wouldn’t not want them on a street or race rig....

all I’m picturing is 65 mph and a panic stop…
driveshaft lock up....  crunching and snapping to follow...


no useful information there.

also.... what is this drive shaft speak?  its a pinion brake, not a transfer case output brake people... no load on shafts unless your doing a brake stand





Title: Re: 572
Post by: jaysenodell on December 11, 2013, 03:23:48 PM
all I’m picturing is 65 mph and a panic stop…
driveshaft lock up....  crunching and snapping to follow...
Automatic trans?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 11, 2013, 03:47:49 PM
straight from the pirate-  you guys read and maybe will clear up some things.. read it more than once.  i think the conclusions are a little bias based on poorly designed OEM systems, but the physics don't lie, pinion brakes can and will create more braking when used properly.



OK, so, moving rig has kinetic energy, kinetic energy must be turned into heat, rotors must absorb said heat. Big deal, so what?

Well, the equations that follow are used to calculate the temperature increase in the rotor for a given kinetic energy.  Remembering that kinetic energy depends on weight and speed, they also explain in incontrovertible terms (big word – means you can’t bloody argue with me about it!) exactly why “pinion brakes”, flat out suck, and why Patooyee’s rotors keep trying to melt off ! Remember – to add insult to injury “pinion brakes” are often used on Rockwell-axled rigs – which are big and heavy, and weight is a multiplying factor in the equation for Kinetic energy.

[As an aside – the previous discussion on brake torque also explains why some feel that pinion brakes work well “at slow speed”. It’s because the rotor is placed before the axle differential, meaning the pinion brake’s brake torque is calculated as above and then multiplied by a factor equal to the axle ratio.  This means, even with small callipers and rotors, they can develop tremendous brake torque. But – remember what we said about the requirements of a braking system – it must also have sufficient thermal capacity – and they simply do not. In fact, they’re dangerously inadequate in this regard!]
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jaysenodell on December 11, 2013, 03:58:36 PM
It seems to me they would be much stronger due to the reduction of the diff (resistive force created by kinetics from moving vehicle goes backwards through diff so ...) but then you would have an increased likelihood of diff explosion. It looked to me like these things use a standard open diff with spiders (but then I may not have been looking at the pieces correctly) which would seem to allow one wheel to freewheel with a pinion lock up (reverse of traction loss).


As a bonus, the loss of critical mechanicals and rotational weight at the wheels would seem to provide in increase in responsiveness (albeit small) and longevity.


That is just from the outside looking in though. I would still think an automatic would be prefered to keep the drivetrain happy in a panic situation. That won't fix any related diff explosions though.


Smike, when you getting some? [size=78%]  [/size]
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 11, 2013, 04:08:12 PM
later.  they are way to dam heavy for now.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on December 11, 2013, 05:21:13 PM
thermal capacity is a limiting factor... but boy howdy do they do work.

was looking for and failed to find a pic of the sparks the MJ trucks throw during a freestyle run.

without lockers or spools though you're in bad shape if you lift tires.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on December 11, 2013, 08:57:44 PM
also.... what is this drive shaft speak?  its a pinion brake, not a transfer case output brake people... no load on shafts unless your doing a brake stand


never mind.. this solved it for me...

no more discussion needed...

(http://static.wixstatic.com/media/74eb1b_69fe469e1632ce5f79c777b1f12991a3.jpg_srz_425_227_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz)


I was picturing this kind of setup but with the brake on the driveshaft side of the axle pinion..

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/d20j3k.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on December 12, 2013, 12:20:02 PM
Next weak link.  R&P


we talked about this, and dont forget- i running a 60 R&P on the coast side backwards.  good thing though if that blows, ill just cut out the center and put a 14 section in with all the same parts

umm 14 bolt front...

Are the splines the same from a 60 to a 14b?  or upgrade to the 40 spline...

Wait you are running a chevy front correct that is upside down?

So actually you would be running on the drive side of the gear.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 12, 2013, 12:26:16 PM
not sure if splines are same, but id get a spool or different inners


front chevy flipped with input dirrection changed... running on coast backwards
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 12, 2013, 12:27:08 PM
rear 14 is flipped also, running on coast side
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on December 12, 2013, 05:53:38 PM
Cut and paste:


Q: What's wrong with pinion brakes?

A: Nothing, really. Pinion brakes are awesome but there are some things that need to be understood about them. The main thing is that the reason they are so effective at stopping a rig quickly is that they use the Rockwell axle's deep gear reduction to multiply braking effort whereas a conventional axle has the gearing working against the brakes. But in exchange for this multiplicative effect the pinion brake spins 6.72x faster than a conventional wheel brake would. Thus, roughly about 6.72x the heat is developed to stop the vehicle. At 30mph braking at the pinion is very similar to a normal wheel brake rig riding the brakes at over 100mph!!! So pinion brakes are really good at stopping a rig quickly but not for long periods of time. If you don't ride your brakes coasting down long hills or go fast a lot then pinion brakes are probably great for you. But if you drive on the road or wheel at places like Harlan, KY pinion brakes probably aren't the best choice.


2.5 tons wheel brakes:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/944694-free-rockwell-wheel-brake-recipe-rims-smaller-than-20-patooyees-parts.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on December 17, 2013, 10:34:25 PM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/1562698-testing-new-bfgoodrich-baja-t-kr2-hammers.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 18, 2013, 12:16:53 AM
Yummy, want.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 18, 2013, 08:24:56 AM
Those look good.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on December 20, 2013, 02:14:19 PM

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/1562698-testing-new-bfgoodrich-baja-t-kr2-hammers.html


Nice saw those on McMillin's TT for the Baja 1000. Was wonder what they were!


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on January 07, 2014, 10:20:02 AM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/axles-tires-wheels-sale/1581450-39-krt-b-racelines-new-will-ship-koh.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 07, 2014, 10:58:02 AM
pretty over priced, can buy all of that actually new for less. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 09, 2014, 08:56:51 AM
new radio installed
rear track bar made 1" longer to eliminated some binding at stupid flex
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 18, 2014, 12:46:51 AM
Back expanded steel in for tool bags
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 19, 2014, 11:28:53 PM
Swapped rubber and a couple new KRTs onto beadlocks.
Rear 14shaft pinion guard installed
front shaft last gmc 1350 replaced
front steering clevises, heims, arms, and ram dissembled and re redlockd
oil low pressure light in
trans temo gage in
trans flushed and filled
grease job
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on January 20, 2014, 09:10:44 AM
Nice!


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 20, 2014, 10:25:11 AM
hmmmmm

http://rochester.craigslist.org/pts/4294346950.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on January 20, 2014, 10:34:56 AM
Ha, a little pricey for your typical engine budget?  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on January 20, 2014, 11:58:47 AM
That motor will need actual tuning. Involving someone with a dyno. Not a plug and play motor.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 20, 2014, 12:38:00 PM
I bet lt1brad guy could could take a crack at the first tune.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 21, 2014, 09:10:36 AM
fresh aluminum-num for some new tins
needs a horn installed
fluids storage
retube front shaft HD
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 21, 2014, 09:30:42 AM
own 16 Krts that hold air,

whats another 12 KRs for go faster races this year    8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 26, 2014, 10:56:07 PM
hawg is packed and ready for the lake bed.



rear tool bags
fluids contained
horn installed
winch controller swapped
new tins and hood
bunch of other little shit
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on January 27, 2014, 08:03:02 AM
Where does the cooler go?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 27, 2014, 10:32:28 AM
dont worry sir we will take car of that!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 11, 2014, 10:10:14 AM
car took a beating last week.


Need to invest in fuel pick up changes


Hot lapped chocolate thunder twice at night for spectators   8)

failed at backdoor-  didnt get to hit it sunday morning like we planed due to transporters wanting to get a head start to the ice. 

winched 3X's? running some of the course rock trails saturday
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 11, 2014, 10:12:42 AM
eats 3' whoops at 50 alright

not so good at 30 lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on February 11, 2014, 10:21:16 AM
Not much time wrenching on it, I take it? that's a testiment!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 11, 2014, 11:16:47 AM
i had a hissy fit about the breaker on my cooler fans, and i loossened a ground bolt installing a cup holder that needed a quick fix before we left camp day one haha. 

Pulled tins to get some ATF for Matt, that was the only wrenching.


dynomax muffler holds 6 burritos! 

we were hammering through some crazy stuff.  the whoops in the sand are really neat. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 25, 2014, 11:17:01 AM
short list for this guy

need fix fuel pickup issue below 1/2 tank
bigger or shielded air cleaner needed
radiator level checked
upper hose / T stat housing swapped
front shock hoops need to change- i cant see shit.  possibly go to 14" shocks
brake system needs more
need new tunes jump drive
rear shaft guard
top lock entire car
rear fire wall improvements
check rules for bumpers

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 25, 2014, 01:17:48 PM
walbro pickups ordered.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 04, 2014, 10:01:31 PM
walbros came in.  started the car up and ran for half our.  looking forward to finishing up some customer work to get a break for my toys. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 09, 2014, 09:44:18 PM
walbros installed


1 3/8" MC installed- sealed up tracker booster= whiplash flat spot KRTs power brakes pushing big bore now


YESSSSSS
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 09, 2014, 10:14:30 PM
bent the pushrood had to make a big boy one on the lathe
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on March 09, 2014, 10:42:42 PM
Too much time around high HP

Saw bent pushrod in the preview before I clicked and my first thought was an LS tragedy.


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 09, 2014, 10:53:26 PM
haha

junkyard motors win
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 09, 2014, 10:57:00 PM
also noticed that in a 4 wheel skid in FWD, the rears lock up like they have 75% brake power.  i must have the front/ rear swapped, or it just how it is....


i decided to leave it this way because when going fast in 4x4 it doesnt matter, but in front dig it puts way less stress on the front shafts just tapping the brakes to lock the rear.


meh
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 10, 2014, 09:13:41 AM
I believe KOH has claimed my brake flaring kit.  searched all mine and Matt's tool bags, looked in all the trailers, and then did it all over again for fun.  wasted 2 hours looking for it, and then got to advance 20 min after they closed.  (3rd auto parts run for the day)

got back, used the tub clamp part from an old kit that dies are broken and threads are stripped on press part....


clamp tube.as you would normally
hit with hammer and mushroom over
take dead center from lathe, hit with hammer


best freaking double flares i have ever made in 15 seconds
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on March 10, 2014, 09:41:33 AM
That is some sweet engineering!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 10, 2014, 11:54:46 AM
Lol
I'll have to have you show me that method.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 20, 2014, 02:44:49 PM
took a beating this weekend with no issues.  Fuel pickups seem to not harm, dont know if they help yet.  didnt burn enough fuel and didnt get crazy enough on the comp course.

new tunes in an SD card thats much more protected than a jump drive sticking out

New brakes are Fawsome
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 21, 2014, 10:58:54 PM
tree bars
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 22, 2014, 09:41:51 PM
bumpers to meet race spec
Title: Re: 572
Post by: SlvrJK on March 23, 2014, 01:28:08 AM
Looks good man
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 24, 2014, 10:00:24 AM
well, the welds look good anyway  :o

not much to support the front bumper. Solo cup fabrication was in full accueyeball effect
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on March 24, 2014, 10:38:35 AM
solo cup...level...close enough
Title: Re: 572
Post by: tony on March 24, 2014, 01:12:38 PM
nice
Title: Re: 572
Post by: SlvrJK on March 24, 2014, 04:27:16 PM
Solo cup fabrication was in full accueyeball effect

Lol nothing wrong with that. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 26, 2014, 10:51:31 AM

Battery enclosure violation
rear firewall additions
electrical and oil lines in cab
trans NSS
trans blow proof covers
orbital is not behind firewall
number plates
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 26, 2014, 11:35:47 AM
went after a leaky 14bolt spindle last night.  the seal surface has been pitted and grooved beyond used.  Disassembled, cleaned and sanded down.  pressed on a speedy sleeve repair kit, installed new timken seal in hub.  spent more time cleaning gear oil dirt soaked brake components that install took.   hopping to fix leaks!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 27, 2014, 07:57:23 AM

Battery enclosure violation
rear firewall additions
electrical and oil lines in cab
trans NSS
trans blow proof covers
orbital is not behind firewall
number plates

Trans blow proof cover?

What I read was orbital needed to be "behind Cowl"
I assumed that meant under.

I was hoping to just encase it in its own aluminum box under the cowl if it's an issue.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on March 27, 2014, 09:04:44 AM
Enclosure of the orbital would at least meet the spirit of the rule, very much so. The intent is that a bad fitting/ loose fitting/ blown line won't douse you w burninating hot fluid or pose an injection hazard.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on March 27, 2014, 02:23:29 PM
R rated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A45yAvUsjjw
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on March 27, 2014, 04:07:36 PM
That's kinda gross
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 01, 2014, 01:50:08 PM
new helmet and pumper ordered.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 05, 2014, 11:29:52 PM
pumper mounted
rear interior tin fab'd and installed
weighs 4960 race packed full of fuel me not in it  :o
Title: Re: 572
Post by: SlvrJK on April 06, 2014, 05:44:06 AM
weighs 4960 race packed full of fuel me not in it  :o

Jeebus, I would have thought it would be lighter than that. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on April 06, 2014, 07:40:57 AM
x2

That's pretty portly!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 06, 2014, 08:32:32 AM
Na new she was heavy.  Lots of 250 2x2
 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 09, 2014, 08:06:58 AM
pulled corbeau seat last night to dry out the bottom.  still soaked from last weekend rausch rain prerunning.  suspention cords broken on bottom and left side.  Material failed on front of suspention web.  Spend most of the night repairing and stiching back the seat.  dont understand why this one failed so quick.  571 seats have been fine and still are.  guess its time for an upgrade.  again.

radiator level checked ok
orbital sheilded and no longer "in drivers compartment"  looks lame but in the"thought that counts" of the rules. 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 09, 2014, 12:28:32 PM
wonder what 3 tool bags, and extra battery, 4 gallons of fluids / extra RCV shafts, and fuel weigh on572 haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on April 09, 2014, 02:19:21 PM
wonder what 3 tool bags, and extra battery, 4 gallons of fluids / extra RCV shafts, and fuel weigh on572 haha

I just realized that my car weight inclued my spare tire too.    Now I dont feel so bad... :P
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 10, 2014, 11:03:20 AM
ready for a bath and load up
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 14, 2014, 08:52:32 PM
finished 25th over all.

thats not bad for being out of the car for 10 minutes fixing a stupid issue. 


50 miles in 2hrs 21 min.  felt like i had a lot of traffic laps 3,4,5.  lou was the only guy that passed me that WAS FASTER than me. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on April 15, 2014, 08:52:56 AM
What were you out of the car for?


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 15, 2014, 09:02:10 AM
stuck throttle, cleaning my pants from almost yardsaling into a forest of 12" trees down hill at 45mph

note my first lap time was like 35min not 25
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on April 15, 2014, 09:27:50 AM
I did note that.

gotcha.

Mounting is certainly a concern but I think we'd all be safer with something like this (at least in cases where the throttle cable is able to be pushed on - 571 would need a different cable for a toe strap to be of any use), like the monsters are required to run
(http://www.thmarine.com/userfiles/image/gallery/1396/original/HF-1-DP-Hot-foot-throttle-boat-foot-throttle-universal-500.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 15, 2014, 09:48:03 AM
summit order placed

new cable,
4" pipe and air cleaners to relocated intake
water temp sensor for idiot light
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on April 15, 2014, 09:51:46 AM
link to water temp, please? planning on that myself along with moving idiot lights to the center cage pillar to be right in line of sight no matter what
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 15, 2014, 11:19:51 AM
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/QCR-61-740
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 15, 2014, 11:38:16 AM
ordered 400 tear offs for my new helmet.  45$ shipped. 

http://www.racedaysafety.com/
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on April 15, 2014, 12:41:48 PM
That's cheap.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 15, 2014, 12:49:08 PM
it was cheap enough to try.  Everyone says to try them i dont really see them being usefull.  no mud flap and hard to just grab one. 

I did great this weekend with just a roll of paper towels.  i would be unstoppable with a box of wipealls mounted to the roof. 



i have also considered a headlight wiper assembly or some other type of electric wiper. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on April 15, 2014, 12:51:19 PM
tear-offs are the shit!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jaysenodell on April 15, 2014, 12:57:48 PM
So the advantage to the desert is no mud. Too bad sand is just as bad...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 15, 2014, 01:05:09 PM
i assume i am going to learn there is a reason why no one we race with uses tear offs.  the goggles we got are pretty good with roll offs but they have their limitations. 

i ran for a while with the roll off goggles over a full face helmet.  that would be the ticket if we could find a larger roll system. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on April 15, 2014, 01:24:47 PM
I thought what you said the other guys did with a squirt bottle and rag would Prob work ok too. Simple.
I don't know if I would hate silt worse than mud... never been in real desert silt so I can't really say.
But I really hate mud.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on April 15, 2014, 01:38:29 PM
tear offs work great for atv'n dont see why not in a buggy
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on April 15, 2014, 03:00:46 PM
mounting the roll off to the helmet has promise, I think. Agreed that a larger rolloff would be very nice both in length and height.

I think a bike water bottle cage w big bottle could work well for a squirt n wipe but that's some complex operation while under way.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on April 15, 2014, 03:22:23 PM
Co dog should give the squirt and wipe.
Driver need to look at oncoming muddy forest.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on April 15, 2014, 03:54:38 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Wotefusi-Windscreen-Suzuki-Motorcycle-Helmet/dp/B00H40T9YM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Windshield-Wiper-For-YAMAHA-Honda-Suzuki-AGV-Motorcycle-Helmet-Full-Face-Al-Size-/251286995076?nma=true&si=xtF0BgkqQSA2uJA%252FUd2gaxhZ848%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41X9UgeozzL._SX425_.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Nick on April 15, 2014, 04:24:56 PM
Ohhhh my god haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on April 15, 2014, 04:41:06 PM
I can see that lasting MINUTES!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on April 15, 2014, 05:13:04 PM
I can see chip having 2 installed for himself.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 15, 2014, 05:16:48 PM
why lasting minutes that thing is amazing i want one.

would be epic with a water squirter 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 15, 2014, 05:19:44 PM
minus the suction cups
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on April 15, 2014, 06:00:19 PM
(http://www.bigtimeteez.com/image/cache/data/Thumbnails/Fragile-400x400.gif)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on April 16, 2014, 09:06:37 AM
Yea fragile is my thought. I wouldn't expect that to put up with mud and grit. Almost cheap enough to try though. Would need to drill for mounting I think.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M on April 16, 2014, 11:07:51 AM
Would need to drill for mounting I think.

I think 3M VHB tape will do the job just fine.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on April 16, 2014, 11:36:37 AM
that thing will be off before you even get into the car
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jaysenodell on April 16, 2014, 11:54:03 AM
Set it up to pull the top layer of the pull offs?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 16, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3aSTBnD-Pc 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on April 16, 2014, 05:14:50 PM
Looks sweet... like your driving from inside a BMW headlamp.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 16, 2014, 05:35:32 PM
had one in a cart but 17-28 days shipping.  cant find the US vendor i found yesterday that was 15$ more. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 16, 2014, 09:24:11 PM
looks like i have a slow leaking KRT up front from an outer bead hit on left side.  Driver side has a bent bead lock wheel / rim but minor.

left side outer heim bolt lose and arm rapped.  need to loose BS and go to 7/8's like 571 and 928.

lots of blue paint on driver sliders and bumpers.  i guess i really railed that guy last lap.  i drove through a cluster of 3 trucks and could tell if they were stuck or waiting.  lumber jacked and monster trucked though never looked or lifted.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on April 16, 2014, 09:57:44 PM
I did that on lap 3 at the bottom of the hill where I broke. No feeling like clearing all 3 of them by inches. No paint traded.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 17, 2014, 09:18:48 AM
o i traded paint, sounded like a 3 lb sledge on a hood, or a tire blowing, ha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on April 17, 2014, 09:21:51 AM
Shoulda saw the full size bronco I passed lol


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 18, 2014, 12:01:33 AM
high steer arms drilled to 7/8" and some mis alignment spacers turned from some DOM.  Front steering  back together and HD
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on April 18, 2014, 08:10:35 AM
I heard you pulled a blue hair maneuver and backed up right into Garafalo Bro Mid corner?
Is that trading rust? ;)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 18, 2014, 02:32:54 PM
No care what is behind me
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 18, 2014, 10:58:22 PM
new air filter
new throttle cable
seat pulled and started repairs
alternator charge wire was blown, fixed
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 21, 2014, 07:57:14 PM
sitting in the shop ready for a wreck beating!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 23, 2014, 07:38:30 AM
so i finish my 10 minutes of packing and mount 2 new trailer tires, go to pull buggy out of shop, running and stumbling like crap and while im looking for a coil wire or cracked plug or some sensor loose i notice there is coolant pouring from the front of the block around the water pump.  awesome.   Pull the pump and find the compression limiting gasket is nuked.  run to shitbox store and get 2 new gaskets, and an entire water pump assembly that also comes with its gaskets.

decided the welder is buried and packed so sealing up the new WP heater outlets will be a hassle.  Throw new gaskets at old pump with everything cleaned up.  what a PITA to line up these gaskets without the bolts falling out.  start car, fill coolant system, and still has small drip in same place but not pouring out like before.  motor starts making horrendous high pitch screeching sound with 4psi oil less than normal now.  after 20 min of searching, the hose i rerouted ( i think PCV from left head) into the manifold that was causing my throttle to stick on is now causing all the noise in the intake, the motor running like shit, and the oil pressure.  i have no idea, that hose is hanging now and the manifold port plugged.  ignoring the coolant drip for now.

had not planned on a late night.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on April 23, 2014, 08:21:19 AM
WTF brutality the night before departure.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 24, 2014, 01:56:22 PM
Two fan issues and a burnt coil wire for the wreck wheel win!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on April 24, 2014, 03:03:54 PM
bad PCV valve on that hose letting raw vacuum into the valve cover and everything inside very angry about that? only thing that can make sense....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on April 28, 2014, 04:32:22 PM
what lug nuts are on this unit? I seem to remember you had a good source.

I'm tired of 2 sizes.


edit:
this looks good
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrome-Tall-XL-Closed-Bulge-Acorn-Wheel-Lug-Nuts-9-16-18-13-16-Hex-Qty-32-/141214046896?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20e1035ab0&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 28, 2014, 04:47:16 PM
they make a 9/16" with a 3/4" socket which is what we use with the thick alum bead locks there is no room.  i thought ford 60's use 1/2" thread sometimes so check that
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 28, 2014, 04:48:51 PM
these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/32-LUG-NUTS-CHROME-9-16-ACORN-STYLE-9-16-9-16-9-16-DODGE-RAM-HEMI-DUALLY/300776846464?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D17393%26meid%3D842540795162519165%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D8093%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D290903335972%26
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 01, 2014, 10:27:57 AM
quick Bath tonight
Replace a fan
Check out seat
mount up the Boggers
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 02, 2014, 09:18:41 AM
 8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on May 02, 2014, 09:43:15 AM
Did the van you got the engine out of have hydroboost?


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 02, 2014, 10:30:24 AM
good question- i dont recall.  it was a 2004 2500 express van, 6 lug

There is a factory power brake fitting plug that would be installed in the manifold we could check on 571 and 572.  571's motor was unknown application also. 


I recall ryans 6.0 motor did have hydroboost and had the plug we had to remove. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on May 02, 2014, 12:12:27 PM
that looks pretty sinister with the boggers on it......
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 02, 2014, 01:02:22 PM
def looks like it has anger issues up close.  hard to get a good picture.  its like 96" wide
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 06, 2014, 10:30:13 AM
got a power wash bath
full bolt check
heims lubed
front shaft pulled and HD tubed
gage splash guard installed
lower king pins new grease fittings
grease pumped in many places
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 08, 2014, 10:58:42 AM
ups express 18 hrs came through!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 09, 2014, 12:33:07 AM
F this pile
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on May 09, 2014, 07:49:00 AM
Glad I'm not the only one


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 09, 2014, 07:59:22 AM
2nd time the car has sat for 3 nights, and then i have 2 issues before i can even load the car.

fuel pump switch is dead, now 2 switches are dead on the pannel  need to rebuild with water proof switches.

forgot about my missing trailer bearing cap.  went to 3 places no luck.  made one.

fixed broken trailer wires for light issues

loaded / fueled and packed minus cold food in shop fridge / ice.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on May 09, 2014, 08:02:30 AM
no good
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Nick on May 09, 2014, 08:07:20 AM
Tractor supply has trailer bearing caps
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 09, 2014, 08:09:36 AM
it was 8:30 by the time i hooked the trailer and realized i forgot about the cap all this week. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on May 09, 2014, 08:25:48 AM
Fuel pump switches are silly. Let the ECU do work! then have a selector switch if you want dual pumps. 2¢...


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 10, 2014, 10:53:13 PM
ran 4 hard laps.

piled in a tree hard.  REALLY HARD.  felt fine, then noticed car was squirly and going strait driver side wheel was towed out 20 degrees  limped a little 5th lap with a motor that was starving with a caked air filter.

solid high steer arm looks like a candy cane.  no other damage.

over heated motor from my paper towel stash clogging up the front of the raidiator.

was passed by about 4 cars on course. 

go pro lasted entire race but was mud covered in the first 3 min.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 12, 2014, 09:42:13 AM
needs more motor and a built trans, better mud protection.

some front shock tuning would help also.


i hit 46mph on the cobble stone chop straight in front of the pavilion, and that was comfortable enough to look at the gps....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 12, 2014, 09:27:59 PM
yup if they can build it i can bend it. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on May 13, 2014, 07:35:15 AM
stop running into trees!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on May 13, 2014, 08:49:03 AM
Might as well cover your buggies with a sweet plaid paint scheme, for they be lumberjacks.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 13, 2014, 11:53:33 AM
starter motor has been flakey after last two races.  clicked 2twice then fired to pull out from trailer. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jaysenodell on May 13, 2014, 02:17:07 PM
Wouldn't it just be easier to admit you want new high steer arms?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 13, 2014, 03:41:12 PM
upgrades ordered already, so no. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on May 13, 2014, 04:27:18 PM
Engine upgrade  http://syracuse.craigslist.org/pts/4437608005.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on May 13, 2014, 04:30:42 PM
Another, cheaper

http://syracuse.craigslist.org/pts/4449499084.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 27, 2014, 09:20:08 AM
weekends toll:

broken Lii mirror glass
ripped front bumper off
radiator fan locked solid!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on May 27, 2014, 01:24:34 PM
Yea that was a rough day.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 31, 2014, 06:39:50 PM
Pretty good power slide roll
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on May 31, 2014, 07:42:43 PM
Who ever said Whispering Pines was boring wasn't watching sMike perform.  Awesome!  Belts, cage, and vents did their job well.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 31, 2014, 09:39:24 PM
user error

3/4 roll coming in hot



knocked head, both knees, left elbow and crushed my hand a little.  was lucky as the car rocked from its resting place i was able to reclaim my hand back


A to B on the left side of the car that took the brunt of it is frowing 3"   
"X" in roof is a little visible pressed into aluminum!


should have had my shoulders on and that was stupid. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 02, 2014, 10:49:05 AM
water proof switches next day'd
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 02, 2014, 11:49:35 PM
Artec arms, bolt tie in kits, and king pin spring eliminators installed.

shit is HD and took a little bit of muscle to get it on but all good.


both king pin bushings were exploded and bits.   
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on June 03, 2014, 08:16:11 AM
it seemed to be ok with exploded KP bushings?

like you said, bronze would be nice, but having a little give somewhere in the system is probably good. since the nylon ones  are a $3 part, might just be a replace every 2 races kinda thing.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 03, 2014, 08:48:57 AM
Looks good.

So it has a bronze bushing in there?

Breaking things to get give where things should be tight doesn't seem ideal to me. I like the idea of bronze and no springs for tight steering all the time. It's not like that 1/8" or less of give when the plastic shatters is going to help prevent catastrophic failure.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 03, 2014, 09:06:35 AM
king pin spring eliminators installed.

still have nylon, but no springs.

I didnt really know if it was fine because of the 10 degrees toe out i still had.



There is nothing else to break in my front axle other than the spindle, and that means RCV shaft damage most likely- bah. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 03, 2014, 09:48:09 AM
I bet spindle bolts would break before the spindle, but maybe not with that deep shoulder?

Probably bend the spindle first and not know it until the bearings explode...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 03, 2014, 02:56:18 PM
id bet spindle tube failure before 6 hardened studs let go out of solid knuckles.

wheel spacers and shallow backspace don't help the situation.



need to hit fastenal for 4 bolts- the existing fine thread 1/2" high steer bolts are two long in the Key way positions, need more thread, and shorter.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2014, 09:37:00 AM
Race tires swapped on
Full tin strip and bath
Water oroof switches installed
collector gasket changed
Coolant topped off
front bumper beat back into spec

Running for hardware and parts to do air filter relocation tonight
small list of of prep items
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2014, 10:13:52 AM
sounds good!

hope all goes smooth for you and good luck this weekend
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2014, 01:42:43 PM
got 6' of 3.5" exhaust cut and hand carried to my car for 36$, thats not bad
hit FNL for some bolts, need to grab another eblow from lowes/depot tonight.

need to decide on trailer plan of roll with wedge, fix black trailer, or put a 10k under the black trailer tomorrow with wedge as backup. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2014, 03:44:15 PM
if the measuring tape supports the 10k plan, I like that personally. I should be able to lend a hand tomorrow night if you want.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2014, 04:10:50 PM
1" shy of a bolt on swap width wise.  i layed under it for 10 minutes staring at it, not sure what i want to do.    jacking two boxes up high enough and moving tires i think will take longer that burning on two brackets. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2014, 06:03:03 PM
jacking? H.D. ramps!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 05, 2014, 12:16:48 AM
race prepped and ready to load minus number plates that didnt get washed.


intake re plumbed to clean air under tins!
found both chassis track bar mounts to have cracked tube after roll! 
light bar end also broke, swapped. 


tomorrow is come up with a trailer that rolls and holds lights
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 30, 2014, 12:28:31 PM
would this fix your exhaust stud issue?

1999 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 1500 Exhaust Manifold To Cylinder Head Repair Clamp
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?carcode=1353686&parttype=48942
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 30, 2014, 12:50:29 PM
neat!  very close.  ill have to look at that.  Similar to what i was thinking of making- only issue is i have the extra coolant port tapped for dash sensor.  right rear would be where my issue is.  its always the same bolt on trucks and vans that breaks. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 06, 2014, 07:14:12 PM
wore through a hydro line- Matt had a spare that was correctly longer to fix 90% of wearing points.  Have to make sure its hung right.  Got twisted up in an ATV trail and lumber jacked causing the water pump to get cracked from a 3" tree.  bah


got drug out by 928 and called it a day early today.

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 09, 2014, 02:09:13 PM
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/csi-911ls1b/applications

oring grove .030" deeper than stock! sweet to put brand new things on the lathe to make them work!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 10, 2014, 10:44:49 AM
water system back and good on this guy. 

new 160 stat
straight billet water neck out put
new water pump
heater core outlets removed and plugged
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 10, 2014, 03:02:37 PM
application to fox race program accepted
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on July 10, 2014, 03:27:04 PM
Sweet
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 10, 2014, 03:32:01 PM
reminds me that the shaft seal on one of my rears is leaking. I almost think it's the new one.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 10, 2014, 03:37:27 PM
driver spindle seal was replaced 2x
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 10, 2014, 03:42:43 PM
nah, front axle is leaking but rear is good. shock seal.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2014, 09:52:15 AM
Fox race is 20%, some contacts, ability to setup tuning with Wayne, logo acces, few others
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 11, 2014, 09:55:08 AM
how's the bottom line compare?

polyperformance was the first catalog I came across, looks like I could have bought two Fox 2x14s for less than I gave Dean for two Profenders.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2014, 09:57:53 AM
havent looked at any numbers-  it was within 10% of what ryan got us for so not terible.

Wheels / tires / full suspension replacement on the short list
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on July 11, 2014, 10:47:46 AM
Fox sounds like a good deal.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
what did you give dean like 250$?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 11, 2014, 11:38:39 AM
I must have gotten 3, not 2. It was 815 shipped. Thinking harder and seeing 250 reminds me I have TWO spares not just 1.

I wonder if my broken shock has a good seal to steal... Probably not and probably not able to get it out undamaged if it does. I need to go through these things and learn how they go together some day (when I have time :) )
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2014, 11:39:35 AM
the 2.0's suck, the 2.5s are way better they bolt together


 ::)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 11, 2014, 11:49:49 AM
that does sound MUCH nicer.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on July 11, 2014, 12:06:38 PM
Poly performance has shit tons of fox in stock. 2.0 x 7/8 shafts
And Awesome customer service.

Cali style Bra


Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on July 11, 2014, 01:07:28 PM
I think I have Profender 2.0 shaft seals in stock. I will check.

Bent shaft?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 11, 2014, 02:05:48 PM
I need to take a closer look at it. I think it's the new shock. Noticed oil-wet mud after AOAA.

It'll be fine through LM 3.5 I'm sure. Especially if the rest of the car breaks around it ;)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 13, 2014, 04:42:52 PM
14 bolt went kaboom! On jotters
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on July 13, 2014, 06:08:15 PM
14 bolt went kaboom! On jotters

Shaft or internal failure?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on July 13, 2014, 07:01:48 PM
14 bolt went kaboom! On jotters

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Cq5-7uiBweA/U2l_SfsPPwI/AAAAAAAATJU/TavtK9ZZNcA/s1600/what-hi.png)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 13, 2014, 08:46:59 PM
right side wheel no turny

probable shaft failure, doubt the globe blew- regardless its getting a yukon spoll to match the front for easy broke bits extraction next time.



jotters was dry.  i was rock bouncing the left side after heating them up and making the right side.

big snap after lift off and down hahaha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on July 14, 2014, 10:23:31 PM
No good
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 14, 2014, 11:46:55 PM
shaft failed.

5 min swap and back in business at least for the race this weekend.


looking in to long term upgrade. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on July 15, 2014, 07:51:11 AM
Wow
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on July 15, 2014, 09:14:23 AM
Good god. Such a clean break
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2014, 09:53:17 AM
it did its job untill it didnt haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2014, 09:54:05 AM
i know stu was taking video, there is one posted that ends right when i take off for the right side.  ill try to get it up.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2014, 10:31:59 AM
you can put 1800$ into a 14bolt if you want lol

http://www.40spline.com/products/300m-floater-shafts-flanges 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2014, 10:34:51 AM
RCV has some options too
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2014, 11:25:19 PM
front 5.38 gear set BLOWN
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 16, 2014, 12:00:06 AM
Fuck you summit, my country is not invalid- fix your dam website so i can order my shit
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on July 16, 2014, 08:01:33 AM
No good
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 16, 2014, 09:08:35 AM
Jegs has a midnight pickup if summit didn't come through. Same day shipping if you order before 23;00 eastern. That was news to me - shame I ordered at 0100, else I'd have a trans today.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 16, 2014, 09:26:00 AM
50$ shipping to get a 200$ gear set and pinion seal here thursday.


bah.


Back up plan was make the car 4.56's which i have sitting on the shop floor in my way, but thats about 4X the work for a downgrade. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: tony on July 16, 2014, 01:31:20 PM
just ordered my chromoly rear kit from summer 269 shipped... got a steal.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 17, 2014, 10:01:34 AM
couldnt wait any longer for fedex guy bah

updated account settings for drop off to leave all packages. meh.  ill be running around later im sure to find my gear set. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: ct67_72 on July 17, 2014, 11:20:36 AM
Should have asked me on the gear stuff, I would have hooked you right up.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 17, 2014, 11:41:53 AM
unfortunately i didnt have more than an over night shipping option from summit this time around.  i see some gear changes soon with probably all three of the cars this year lol

delivered at front door apparently. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 17, 2014, 12:43:32 PM
Gear set and pinion seal in hand.  missed that pinnion yoke seal surface is a little beat, i guess that will be next prep when it starts to leak again haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 17, 2014, 12:57:03 PM
bolted on rear tires last night trying to get as far along as possible with what i had- noticed the driver side chassis link mount has 1/4" play and the bolt is rattling around in the bolt lock.  looks like welded in top lock broke free in the chassis.  removed, have a fix plan- just ran out of steam last night.


crazy. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 17, 2014, 11:28:58 PM
front end re geared, rear link chassis mount fixed.  window nets and numbers, loaded in the trailer just needs fuel!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 18, 2014, 08:32:18 AM
i set the pinion depth .008" more to compensate for outer gear chipping.  Added .004 to pinion preload.  both gear sets were +.005's


Id give this failure 50% random setup that lasted 1 year, 50% loose pinion nut loss of pinion preload. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2014, 02:59:19 PM
pumper needs replacement or fix
rear sway bar would be nice



ruff stuff parts lists are very confusing for sway bars

are the arms just plates or assembled? do you need the "kit" also?

are the arms sold in pairs or single? fully welded ready to bolt onto a bar?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 18, 2014, 04:13:56 PM
Can't pick a bar out. Sounds like he wants a phone call for bar stuff. I need to do same but I think wheels may have to come first :(


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on August 18, 2014, 05:42:01 PM
What about the currie kit?

Arms aren't as stout as ruff stuff.  Are they more of a crawler kit?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 19, 2014, 09:37:58 AM
http://jkolvaphotography.smugmug.com/Rcrocs-Race-8-16-2014/i-4vL6XfR/A
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 19, 2014, 10:21:00 AM
siiiiik
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on August 19, 2014, 10:25:00 AM
nice shot!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on August 19, 2014, 10:31:33 AM
scrolled thought some of those pics...
some of those rigs look awesome.. would love to see them in action
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 19, 2014, 10:34:44 AM
a lot of farm trucks. 

a few surprisingly FAST farm trucks

Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on August 19, 2014, 10:38:05 AM
A lot of entertainment for the line mountain mobiles
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 19, 2014, 11:15:09 AM
a lot of farm trucks. 

a few surprisingly FAST farm trucks



A lot of surprisingly loud farm trucks.

Several surprisingly FARM trucks.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on August 19, 2014, 11:30:55 AM
 a lot of shocks
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on August 19, 2014, 11:52:44 AM
i think it was 743, butt ass ugly truck but fast as hell
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on August 20, 2014, 09:26:03 AM
Some very interesting vehicles
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 20, 2014, 09:35:41 AM
i think it was 743, butt ass ugly truck but fast as hell

one of the twin forward revers 4 link cars.

those guys are pretty creative with engineering backgrounds. 
The cars chassis are all Stainless Steel also.
Ford 351 /C6, chain drive single speed PTO to front rear axles. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 20, 2014, 10:39:56 AM
Contrary to the spuratic non use ful negative tech i have read, im going to try some nascar swaybar parts with a little twist  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 25, 2014, 04:35:26 PM
u4 needs

breakdown device  Two battery-operated red-light flashing beacons or two red reflective
devices must be carried in the vehicle as breakdown safety devices. Reflective
devices must be at least 12” high and 12” long and be free standing (similar
to trucker’s breakdown triangles


check first aid kit
Front / side/ rear numbers
weight 4400lbs

Gussets must be installed at all major intersections, including diagonal and
rear down braces, where single weld fractures can affect occupants’ safety.
Gussets constructed of 3” x 3” x .125" flat plate or split, formed and
welded corner-tubing, or tubing-gussets made of the same material and
thickness as the roll cage may be used.


Each vehicle shall have a means of applying continuous brake pressure while
vehicle is parked with occupant(s) outside the vehicle. Hydraulic “line-locks”
or mechanical “emergency brakes” are permitted.

There must be a substantial cross member and firewall between the fuel
tank and the occupants

Internal baffling is mandatory in all
fuel cells. Foam is an acceptable form of internal baffling


Fuel isolation valves that facilitate isolation of the fuel tank from the fuel supply line, fuel return line,
and fuel vent line are required. Ball valves, or a combination of ball valve
and one-way check valve, located at the supply, return, and vent line are
acceptable.

Fuel tank must be filled from, and vented to, the outside of the
occupants' compartment.

All fuel fillers attached to the frame or a body panel must be connected to
the tank using flexible couplers. Boot or splashguard must direct fuel spillage to outside of vehicle and away
from occupants’ compartment, engine, and exhaust.  A fuel filler roll over or check valve must be incorporated in the cell. 


Fuel vent lines must have a rollover check valve incorporated at the fuel
cell, and must vent outside of occupants’ compartment, and be directed
away from the engine and exhaust system.

6.2.14.3.7 Fuel vent line must use one of the following routings:
6.2.14.3.7.1 Fuel vent line must extend to the highest point of the roll cage
nearest the fuel cell, across the width of the vehicle, and down to below the
belly pan of the vehicle or 3” below the fuel cell, whichever is lower.
6.2.14.3.7.2 Fuel vent line must loop above the fuel cell to a point that is 4” above
the top of the fuel cell. From there it shall be wrapped one full loop around
the outside of the fuel cell near the top of the fuel cell and then be routed
down to a point 3” below the lowest point of the fuel cell.

Fueling mat


Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on August 25, 2014, 05:15:15 PM
might as well just start cutting for 2", you just gained another 50lb after those changes
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2014, 10:48:13 AM
not stated in rules that a winch is required!  thats a ton of savings (on the wrong end though)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2014, 10:49:30 AM
85lbs to be exact!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on August 26, 2014, 11:37:44 AM
You could always just take a broken winch empty the internals and stick an empty case on there
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2014, 12:11:50 PM
all things needed ordered
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2014, 11:39:55 PM
lost track of the money thrown at this thing this week

sway bars came in today and some aluminum.  more aluminum and summit stuff on the way

tires for all this year and hopefully next orded direct from BFG



sway bar mocked up.  worried its going to be stiff, but functionally its going to be pretty HD.  have to remember to unbolt for wreck wheeling. 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 27, 2014, 11:53:17 AM
14 short course tires paid for. 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 27, 2014, 12:01:42 PM
Finally! They coming to the Lifetime dock as well? That'll really be a ton of rubber!


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 27, 2014, 12:04:14 PM
depends on what Arie can do to help out.  they need to be picked up.

Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on August 27, 2014, 12:06:02 PM
I'm in canandaigua today with a 5x8 enclosed.
Heading north around 130pm
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on August 27, 2014, 12:08:15 PM
Whatever I can't get ryan can fit in the Beemer. 
;)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 27, 2014, 12:11:13 PM
Thumbsup!


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 27, 2014, 12:46:22 PM
Thumbsup!


Tapatalking in traffic

that would be a long ride since the tires are in CA right now, but thanks for the offers
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on August 27, 2014, 12:46:49 PM
Oh ok
Title: Re: 572
Post by: tony on August 27, 2014, 07:07:28 PM
What was wring with old sway bar that you need such a stiff bar
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 28, 2014, 08:11:20 AM
hp speed 40's need more bar to be worth it. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 29, 2014, 12:16:53 AM
front end torn down.  Kaboom ring gear as expected.  all other parts look good.

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 30, 2014, 12:03:16 AM
front end back together with a new gear set minus a diff cover and oil

2 upper links turned out
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 31, 2014, 07:35:04 PM
chassis gusset tube work in and full welded

rear sway bar mocked up and arm extensions done. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 01, 2014, 07:06:21 PM
Cell foamed
inlelt flap rollover valve added
vent roll over valve
remote fill
tube gussets full welded
more sway bar work
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 04, 2014, 01:35:22 AM
all links and track bars cut, right hand threads tappped

flats in sway bar links. 

more taps comming tomorrow to finish all. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on September 04, 2014, 12:20:18 PM
tap is in my car...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 04, 2014, 12:30:04 PM
great, ups says the rest from enco is on a truck out for delivery.  that was fast!

i am a pro at links now- still takes a long time lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 05, 2014, 01:52:29 PM
KY prep Progress
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on September 05, 2014, 02:01:37 PM
poor car, it was so bad ass looking till you put on what looks like forrest gump leg braces
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 05, 2014, 02:17:56 PM
whahuh?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on September 05, 2014, 05:42:40 PM
that shiny contraption of nascar parts
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 05, 2014, 11:55:11 PM
thanks for the help tonight guys


new aluminum top locked in
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 08, 2014, 02:01:46 PM
u4 needs

breakdown device  Two battery-operated red-light flashing beacons or two red reflective
devices must be carried in the vehicle as breakdown safety devices. Reflective
devices must be at least 12” high and 12” long and be free standing (similar
to trucker’s breakdown triangles


check first aid kit
Front / side/ rear numbers
weight 4400lbs

Gussets must be installed at all major intersections, including diagonal and
rear down braces, where single weld fractures can affect occupants’ safety.
Gussets constructed of 3” x 3” x .125" flat plate or split, formed and
welded corner-tubing, or tubing-gussets made of the same material and
thickness as the roll cage may be used.


Each vehicle shall have a means of applying continuous brake pressure while
vehicle is parked with occupant(s) outside the vehicle. Hydraulic “line-locks”
or mechanical “emergency brakes” are permitted.


There must be a substantial cross member and firewall between the fuel
tank and the occupants

Internal baffling is mandatory in all
fuel cells. Foam is an acceptable form of internal baffling


Fuel isolation valves that facilitate isolation of the fuel tank from the fuel supply line, fuel return line,
and fuel vent line are required. Ball valves, or a combination of ball valve
and one-way check valve, located at the supply, return, and vent line are
acceptable.


Fuel tank must be filled from, and vented to, the outside of the
occupants' compartment.


All fuel fillers attached to the frame or a body panel must be connected to
the tank using flexible couplers. Boot or splashguard must direct fuel spillage to outside of vehicle and away
from occupants’ compartment, engine, and exhaust.  A fuel filler roll over or check valve must be incorporated in the cell. 


Fuel vent lines must have a rollover check valve incorporated at the fuel
cell, and must vent outside of occupants’ compartment, and be directed
away from the engine and exhaust system.


6.2.14.3.7 Fuel vent line must use one of the following routings:
6.2.14.3.7.1 Fuel vent line must extend to the highest point of the roll cage
nearest the fuel cell, across the width of the vehicle, and down to below the
belly pan of the vehicle or 3” below the fuel cell, whichever is lower.
6.2.14.3.7.2 Fuel vent line must loop above the fuel cell to a point that is 4” above
the top of the fuel cell. From there it shall be wrapped one full loop around
the outside of the fuel cell near the top of the fuel cell and then be routed
down to a point 3” below the lowest point of the fuel cell.


Fueling mat
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 08, 2014, 04:54:59 PM
Matt at Dynomax getting me into 2014 Contingency program


just in case i win something this weekend :) 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 09, 2014, 09:15:46 AM
mounted 3 more tires on new KMC's

all three wheels short 2 washers in hardware kit
one wheel is missing 1/2 the machine work for the inner air lock fill
one of the rock rings is 1/8" thicker than the other two

 :o
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 09, 2014, 09:56:59 AM
rush job? Friday job?

oi.

glad some things showed up though. Good luck, sorry I've not been over to help out.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 09, 2014, 10:57:46 AM
huh


mounted grooved bald tires.  we dont have new tires.

i have had the new wheels for weeks
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 09, 2014, 11:09:54 AM
wondering if the wheels were a rush job or just built last thing on a friday
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 09, 2014, 11:40:19 AM
o, gotcha


no clue
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 15, 2014, 11:04:04 AM
we got a police escort from the track to the fair grounds. 

572 is tight and drives straight at 55mph on pavement now for some reason lol




dove the crap out of this car

needs more motor and suspention.

flys fine.  takes casing / lawn darting doubles like a chap.  only almost hurt my self once. 

air cleaner was packed 2nd race.  boo.  changed out and ran hard LCQ

no tire issues.  trans likes to be left in 3rd best.



both cars passed hammer teck and chassis are banded
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 15, 2014, 11:09:31 AM
both cars passed hammer teck and chassis are banded
Stellar


Very cool on the police escort too :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on September 15, 2014, 11:22:31 AM
No escort back to the track though.
We missed that boat.
Rode dirty!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 15, 2014, 12:11:35 PM
Loren Heely was behind me beeping like we were racing lol


my car was the lowest roof line at the race and probably the longest WB lol 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 15, 2014, 12:59:12 PM
two fresh dents in the rear from Wayland's IFS car      8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 15, 2014, 02:41:18 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LS3-6-2L-430-hp-424-lb-ft-torque-from-a-Corvette-based-crate-engine-/151409177562?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item2340b0b3da&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on September 15, 2014, 04:17:24 PM
http://buffalo.craigslist.org/ptd/4616423419.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 15, 2014, 04:22:34 PM
i saw that place.  i bet i know the guy.  i lived in NT for 15 years
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on September 15, 2014, 04:25:01 PM
You have all week to get one transplanted......
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 15, 2014, 04:27:22 PM
not even in the cards no way lol


this winter project for sure.  car getting blasted and coated then assembled with new motor / trans.  keeping current trans as spare. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 15, 2014, 05:02:34 PM
Seems like a good plan.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 15, 2014, 05:11:09 PM
wow

short course tires are awesome.  need to look closer, but way better shape than i expected.

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 16, 2014, 03:48:22 PM
looks like im gona try to make a farm truck air filtration system using big truck parts.  gona visit the filter place and see what they have for off the shelf cheap BAFs
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 16, 2014, 04:13:12 PM
You plugged up even running to behind your seat?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 16, 2014, 04:16:03 PM
yep.  sucked.  pissed about it.  was sunday driving foot on floor with 20% power  for 4 laps 2nd prelim
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 16, 2014, 04:41:30 PM
am i suppose to be able to feel when my car is on two wheels, because i cant

also notice coming down of a wadded jump my limit straps are not even tight.  way too much rebound?

Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on September 16, 2014, 04:53:55 PM
Smike..  I have a Donaldson offroad air filter assembly you can test out..

Problem with them is max cfm...   
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 16, 2014, 06:30:16 PM
Gotta be way too much rebound.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 17, 2014, 09:23:17 AM
spare sway bar arms ordered
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 18, 2014, 12:21:23 AM
prepped and tool packed. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 18, 2014, 03:36:18 PM
new pumper
new air filter
changed out bad oil pressure gage
added tool bags
added spare fluids
didnt wash
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 22, 2014, 08:18:27 AM
gota figure out where the fuel was dumping from when i was on my driver side.  Must have something to do with the remote filler neck change we did for kentucky. 


NO GOOD when line mt guys walk up to help with 1" of ash cig in one hand, beer in other. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 23, 2014, 12:38:23 AM
front king pins were floppy loose, torn down and re lock tighted.  both sides will need to be welded in like 571 upon next tear down. 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 27, 2014, 11:15:59 PM
Loaded up with a rear mid shaft failure from rock bouncing crawldaddy
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on October 10, 2014, 08:54:22 AM
8.1 big block,   http://rochester.craigslist.org/pts/4705368927.html

 ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: SlvrJK on October 10, 2014, 04:30:16 PM
Yesssssss
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on October 24, 2014, 01:36:43 AM
miller has some race tires for sale
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/axles-tires-wheels-sale/1653466-bfg-krts-krawlers-iroks-md.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 24, 2014, 09:52:39 AM
thread has been up for a while, those tires are all beat and overpriced
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 16, 2014, 05:59:56 PM
koh teardown has started.... 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 21, 2014, 11:24:39 PM
new output bearings and seals thrown at the 205 after replacing all the broken parts.  Waiting on rear billet output flange in the mail and should be 100%

started eyeing up diet efforts.  should be able to cut almost 100lbs with the plasma cutter and put back in some aluminum and 095 DOM

hope to get it 100% power washed on the warm day next week while its still a roller.  then tear down.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 30, 2014, 12:43:26 AM
6 spicer 1350's in hand for drive line rebuild
full shop top lock stock ordered
new windownets ordered for U4 tech
3/4 ton brake kit sitting on shelf
D60 bronze solid bushings on the way
new King pins in hand
3 quart oil accumulator on the way
new 3layer fire suit came in
2 spare pillow blocks on the shelf
mid shaft 3/8" wall DOM ordered (again)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 03, 2014, 01:19:49 PM
4 filters for 100$

might not be a bad shot at a booty fab desert air filter system
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 04, 2014, 08:47:01 AM
almost like a real company....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 04, 2014, 09:15:25 AM
ordering BFGs once i call to verify what i want in stock
anyone needs tires let me know.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 08, 2014, 08:59:46 AM
ripped into car last night with Matt

both diffs gutted, bunch of weight torched off!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 08, 2014, 01:13:41 PM
RCVs sent

RMA 112514JDO
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 08, 2014, 11:34:42 PM
took my scale over to the shop

each of my tree sliders weigh 25 lbs
front bumper 15lbs
rear bumper 20 lbs
front 1/8" plate removed 8lbs
 :o

14bolt spool is 27 lbs-  might lathe off another 8lbs
14bolt oe clam and welded globe 33lbs

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 09, 2014, 09:29:58 AM
have building some spare drive shafts in the back of my mind since even though i have been through a lot of iterations of improvement- they still seem to be one my my common failures.

mid shaft in the car is a good spare, but it has a slugged section, with the failure of plug weld designed removed.  i have 3/8 wall DOM to replace it but having a hard time coming up with a way to adapt while maintaining strength.  have a few 60 pinions laying around, 1350 yokes are 50$ each

im tempted to go back to original 2" 120 wall tube to 14bolt yokes, with a slug of 7075 inside of it to keep bending down
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 10, 2014, 09:55:06 AM
ordered some fresh KRTs

started turning down a yukon spool last night- currently at 12lb lighter than OE clam, have a bit more to go.  all carbides are not a like!  turning twislers!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 12, 2014, 01:01:00 PM
14bolt weight reductions in
14bolt OE clam  33lbs
yukon spool 27lbs
M4 shaved yukon spool 18lbs

15 lbs lost!

Fresh sticky KRTs delivered this morning
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on December 12, 2014, 06:39:31 PM
i love the smell of new tires in the morning...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 12, 2014, 06:57:33 PM
im more a sucker after they are mounted on the new KMC's i have sitting still in boxes....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on December 12, 2014, 07:31:35 PM
have you been deleting pics off this build thread?   
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 12, 2014, 07:48:32 PM
the forum gets purged from time to time of old attachments
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 13, 2014, 08:04:20 AM
Those look more like HEAVY truck tires than sticky desert tires
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 13, 2014, 09:52:52 PM
14 bolt gear set back in
front solid 60 cover has a crack in it
7075 tie rods machined
winch pulled
radiator mount trimmed up
battery mount trimmed up
mud chipped and vacuumed out of sub
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 14, 2014, 07:45:45 AM
Better find an extra 4 - 5 lbs to shave off somewhere to compensate for the new radio.
Wow these are heavy.
I suppose you could pull it out for weigh in
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 14, 2014, 10:14:56 PM
placed ruff stuff order last monday

still no confirmation




cant this be easier
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 15, 2014, 11:23:38 AM
amazes me the ruff stuff sits on stuff


ya uh we are waiting on a big heim shipment, maybe Thursday.  so keep my money for 10 days and don't ask me ?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 15, 2014, 11:29:19 AM
poly performance

no lead time no idea, cant give me anykind of answer or number to call for fuel jug order that is being sat on also. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 15, 2014, 11:41:31 AM
RCV got my shafts back ok

BFG did not charge me for KRTs as far as i can tell   :o
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on December 15, 2014, 12:47:03 PM
I think BFG charges when they ship?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 15, 2014, 01:19:55 PM
i got them thrusday i think, no charges yet
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 15, 2014, 11:45:47 PM
the mud guard for my relay packs under front hood, 8lbs steel removed

all cooler mounts and battery top mounts removed and swapped to aluminum flat stock, 12lbs removed

I think fuel cell enclosure / mounts are next after running some numbers.  i am at about 190 lbs of 240 needed to be gone. 


my sway bar / hardware is 28lbs, removed but i dont think that was on for last weigh in. 

AGMs are 45 lbs each   :o
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on December 16, 2014, 12:21:04 AM
Those little race batteries are super light... That'd be expensive but effective. Smaller mount needed too.

Odesey?  I cant remember


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 16, 2014, 08:45:33 AM
The deka I got for the Brolite is listed at like 23 lbs for the 350 CCA
Would that be strong enough ?
I haven't actually weighed the battery I actually recieved.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 16, 2014, 08:51:58 AM
id rather keep the batteries i have.  one will be pulled for weigh in, but they both will bee needed for the welder
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on December 16, 2014, 08:52:51 AM
I have a MSO sheet for the batteries if your looking to trim
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 16, 2014, 02:30:48 PM
more money gone to RCV bah

joints were shot, one of the outer 300M stubs was twisted


joints rebuilt, new stubs, and more grease on the way
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on December 16, 2014, 02:43:58 PM
Thought they were guaranteed?  :o
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 16, 2014, 03:12:52 PM
guarantee is for breakage-

not wear out
not spine twist or shaft twist



Hell if i am going to run clicking and poping and twisted RCV's to KOH and hope they dont break!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on December 16, 2014, 03:29:20 PM
how long have you had those like 4 months? 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 16, 2014, 03:32:12 PM
ya,
not at all happy for near $6K investment

im done with them after this, tig welded CTMs are next up
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 18, 2014, 05:42:45 PM
Fedex says they were delivered 9:45am 

not here or at neighbors


my fucking lord i hate people

i swear i am going to start taking the dock guy at delphi beer to throw my stuff over the fence
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 18, 2014, 09:30:41 PM
rcv's located
starter motor cut out  :o and new installed
bumps pulled, all blown seals from jacking pressure and jumping 3 heats KY racing
90% of ruff stuff order came in.  i had the missing heim i needed on the shelf.  7075 tie rods assembled.

Ready to do work and fully both axles tomorrow.


 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 20, 2014, 12:00:56 AM
shocks shipped today.  should be just in time to get lost in Christmas rush, fuck those last minute guys

started stripping rust from chassis
pulled cell, 20lbs of mud under it
axles tomorrow for diff rash rebuild.  both missing bottom diff covers


Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on December 20, 2014, 11:53:09 AM
shocks shipped today.  should be just in time to get lost in Christmas rush, fuck those last minute guys

started stripping rust from chassis
pulled cell, 20lbs of mud under it
axles tomorrow for diff rash rebuild.  both missing bottom diff covers

my front center chunk is in need of some steel as well
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on December 20, 2014, 02:41:18 PM
smike is officially famous
https://www.facebook.com/KingofTheHammers/photos/a.540237969333834.122480.197874200236881/877547442269550/?type=1&theater
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on December 20, 2014, 04:02:03 PM
Oh shit!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 20, 2014, 10:58:19 PM
haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel86 on December 21, 2014, 01:12:54 AM
*infamous
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 21, 2014, 09:30:37 PM
how rude

summit shipped me the wrong window net.  i thought i screwed up but checked the order they send me a different but close one.

works fine for the bro lite but doesnt help 572!



broken cast axle housings got welded and repaired, plated
axles blasted and painted
front shaft rebuilt
rear shaft rebuilt
left header pulled for rewrap


mid shaft is a cluster i think i need some new parts. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 21, 2014, 10:01:09 PM
on the hunt for some Spicer 3-28-777's tomorrow to fix my mid shaft woes for good.

ill bore my 2" DOM 3/8" wall ends to a 1.75 press and throw down a good weld.  should be lighter and much stronger than the last 3 shafts that i failed


 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 21, 2014, 10:51:59 PM
haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 21, 2014, 10:53:09 PM
3 link chassis mount fail
parts
axles wrapped to cool
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on December 21, 2014, 11:07:10 PM
i like your tables
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 22, 2014, 07:52:53 AM
High tech
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 24, 2014, 12:31:39 AM
HD mid shaft made
fuel cell now has an aluminum enclosure
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 24, 2014, 09:09:14 AM
Schweet
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 24, 2014, 10:47:05 AM
brown truck came
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 24, 2014, 05:45:38 PM
Schweet x 4
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 26, 2014, 11:30:37 PM
Front end got the torch, new ground for new winch / track bar mount
chassis 100% stripped, 95% painted

ready to start re assembly and front shock mock tomorrow.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 26, 2014, 11:35:26 PM
Painted
Title: Re: 572
Post by: SlvrJK on December 26, 2014, 11:42:20 PM
Woah  8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 27, 2014, 07:18:03 AM
Looks good
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Callelle on December 27, 2014, 12:03:50 PM
Looks so much better than dirty, rusty tube.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 27, 2014, 11:41:48 PM
header wrap fixed
axles bolted in under chassis
front shock hoops removed and chassis cleaned up


thanks for tube erik and springs ryan


looks like a pair of 14"s fit

i was wrong, i have also 100's so looks like ill try 100/100 and see where its at
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 28, 2014, 03:01:27 PM
front end changes fully welded.  gona finish up the winch plate / front bumper once tires are back on. 

im happy.  guess perfect on limit straps for bolt on.  im happy
Title: Re: 572
Post by: SlvrJK on December 28, 2014, 09:11:13 PM
That's worlds better, nice work as always. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 28, 2014, 11:50:52 PM
the 60 gets loaded tomorrow
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 29, 2014, 09:47:58 AM
Sight lines look better!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on December 29, 2014, 10:11:08 AM
sexy winch
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 29, 2014, 01:12:52 PM
It's so little.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on December 29, 2014, 01:14:30 PM
50 ft of rope!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 30, 2014, 12:17:18 AM
sexy new lines!

Title: Re: 572
Post by: tony on December 30, 2014, 03:17:49 PM
Ft looks like a bird
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 30, 2014, 09:04:17 PM
i prefer Raptor sir!

high from painting!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 01, 2015, 11:36:47 PM
tons of work last few days.



brand new 172$ startmotor clicks and spins but doesnt crank motor.  awesome.  glad we didnt need the emergency buy spare for KY.... ill be taking it back and getting an arie unit as i should have in the first place....



lots of electrical and hydralic clean up today, case and front shaft in.  oil changed.  going to tackle air filtration tomorrow. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on January 01, 2015, 11:50:17 PM
what is the target weight?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 02, 2015, 12:02:42 AM
<4400 lbs
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 02, 2015, 07:31:45 PM
driveline is in
fuel system back in

Title: Re: 572
Post by: tony on January 02, 2015, 07:57:25 PM
Smike.. How much weight you drop??
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 02, 2015, 08:22:51 PM
when car is done i can weigh....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 04, 2015, 12:21:24 AM
the starter motor problems i was having were because when i moved the primary battery, i crossed power and ground hookups.


fried ECM and who knows what else. 


572 is dead right now.  no good.


Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on January 04, 2015, 08:51:35 AM
No good
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on January 04, 2015, 09:10:57 AM
GM pn# on that ecm...
I can flash and reprogram at North...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 04, 2015, 10:26:19 AM
unfortunatly this isnt an OE application


a new one needs to be sent to Brendan tomorrow to flash
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 04, 2015, 09:46:45 PM
filtration unit    8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 05, 2015, 09:29:59 AM
ECMs and express payment sent this morning.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 05, 2015, 09:35:48 AM
spare 1350s
spare 60 yoke
spare 5.38 gear set
new helmet sheild
25' trans cooler hose
25' fuel line

ordered summit
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 05, 2015, 09:36:44 AM
125#
150#

front pairs of coils ordered
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 09, 2015, 04:36:42 PM
both ECMs headed back and should be here tomorrow.

Brenden said he was able to communicate with both ok


so good news that ill have exactly same flash, bad news is WTF it didnt work lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on January 09, 2015, 05:24:44 PM
Big wtf but hooray spare?


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 09, 2015, 05:48:02 PM
or more hard parts blown on the ecm that you cant tell by a plug in

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 10, 2015, 02:00:36 PM
2 working ecms now
oil done, trans flushed, steering flushed.


Run arounds for the day done

Spare radiator, cooler, and Pumper also showed up today.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on January 10, 2015, 05:15:50 PM
or more hard parts blown on the ecm that you cant tell by a plug in


x2

i had one that looked good thru the programmer but the injector outputs were bad
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on January 10, 2015, 10:04:14 PM
Did you decide to upgrade GPS? Old one for sale if so?


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 11, 2015, 12:33:05 AM
havent had time.

what would be my upgrade best choice?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 11, 2015, 12:39:43 AM
got the motor back running today.

front shock limit straps settled on with a new pair that were 1" shorter than i guessed initially. 
shocks and bumps charged
ecms mounting done
Front Resivior mounts done
locking oil dip stick and mount done
light weight integreated breakdown triangles / rear reflectors done.  sweet design implemented.
front diff got first 2 quarts, need more gear oil
steering cooler swapped to full cooler
light bar and mirror mounted


running out of big things to do.  a few pains left and new tires to mount.  doing well.

helped matt setup his 14 bolt
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 11, 2015, 11:20:26 PM
break down triangles
new removable light weight orbital shield
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on January 12, 2015, 07:05:07 AM
My guess is that triangle mount might not fly. May appear to on coming traffic that you are broken down.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: cracker on January 12, 2015, 08:35:34 AM
My guess is that triangle mount might not fly. May appear to on coming traffic that you are broken down.

I believe it comes off and is only displayed when needed.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jaysenodell on January 12, 2015, 08:49:40 AM
flip it around so reflectors are pointing into car.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 12, 2015, 09:49:22 AM
the car is required to run rear facing reflective surface.  surface requirements undefined.  Reflective break down devices must be min 12" tall.  (or battery beacons).  Min 2.  i made 3. 

I got the idea from Bill Barids car.  very similar, except his exhaust runs though the middle of the pinned triangles.

the black part in the center of the triangles can be folded down 90 degrees to make them self standing, or 180 degrees to stake into sand / ground.  0.050" aluminum and cotter pins for quick no tool release.   

i think its well with in the rules. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on January 12, 2015, 10:17:25 AM
They're perfect. particularly since the rear reflective surface requirements are undefined.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 12, 2015, 10:19:36 AM
i thought it was pretty genius taking bills design that doesn't meet the free standing rule and fixing it   8) 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on January 13, 2015, 07:46:08 AM
It's a great design. No doubt.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 15, 2015, 12:47:51 AM
shit is about to get real
Title: Re: 572
Post by: SlvrJK on January 15, 2015, 05:39:12 AM
God dayummm
Title: Re: 572
Post by: cracker on January 15, 2015, 08:26:17 AM
damn that looks good!  not sure if it was the front end do-over or the chassis paint but that looks awesome!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on January 15, 2015, 08:40:13 AM
ide be proud to slap a sticker on that ass
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 15, 2015, 08:49:24 AM
changed to 125/150 springs up front with 185psi all 4 corners for the ride height up where i wanted it! 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on January 15, 2015, 08:54:02 AM
Looks great.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: tony on January 15, 2015, 11:56:24 PM
Sexy
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 16, 2015, 01:08:21 AM
tins done
winch wiring done
spare shafts welded up
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 16, 2015, 01:17:17 AM
1.5" 16 spline
1350's
3.25 DOM .219 wall
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on January 16, 2015, 07:34:21 AM
Nice
.219 wall = BEEF
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on January 16, 2015, 07:36:16 AM
they look beautiful...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on January 16, 2015, 08:20:47 AM
nice work
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 16, 2015, 09:18:18 AM
so much easier to weld them and set up with the lathe

i am able to chuck up the shaft, hold with live centers or whatever to ensure straightness...

tack 3 places, then turn the big pulley on the lathe with my left hand while laying down the bead with the mig gun resting on tool holder. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on January 16, 2015, 09:41:37 AM
Pro set up fo sure
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 16, 2015, 10:05:07 AM
i am stuck on a good air cleaner housing / dust sheild. 


the hard part is done and the filter is fit to the chassis.... made a thin alum shield quick but it looks hack.



I think an alum tig is on the list this year. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on January 16, 2015, 12:15:05 PM
i am stuck on a good air cleaner housing / dust sheild. 


the hard part is done and the filter is fit to the chassis.... made a thin alum shield quick but it looks hack.



I think an alum tig is on the list this year.

Let me know if you wanna play....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 18, 2015, 12:37:12 AM
ready for night racing  8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on January 18, 2015, 09:29:58 AM
I think an alum tig is on the list this year.

ill invest in that
Title: Re: 572
Post by: SlvrJK on January 18, 2015, 08:52:13 PM
New front end looks tits
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 18, 2015, 09:12:28 PM
new sticky KRTs on new KMCs look even better
Title: Re: 572
Post by: SlvrJK on January 18, 2015, 09:15:00 PM
new sticky KRTs on new KMCs look even better
Pics???

Me being facebookless means I miss alot, haha. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 18, 2015, 10:14:05 PM
no time for facebook today hhaha

mounted 4 all new race tire / wheels

got a front number plate on.  chassis 100% painted

helped work on matts car

we are both in pretty good shape. 


hope to get radios in tomorrow, and finish up the air cleaner housing mounts. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: SlvrJK on January 19, 2015, 08:48:27 AM
Haha excellent
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M on January 19, 2015, 09:01:54 AM
I think an alum tig is on the list this year.

ill invest in that

Miller 250dx with tigrunner, I can do $2k shipped. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on January 19, 2015, 09:35:01 AM
Spy Photo!
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/19/809fef61fd1fdcff87ca50033bd8ce01.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 19, 2015, 09:36:38 AM
sweet! sweet!


lets do this!!!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 19, 2015, 09:37:02 AM
MLK day today, im off and in the shop all day
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on January 19, 2015, 09:47:36 AM
fuck you and your useful vacation days!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on January 19, 2015, 09:49:47 AM
Ha ha.
Working for the man has its privileges I guess.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 19, 2015, 09:49:59 AM
hahahahah!


you need a parts delivery today or are you stopping by soon?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on January 19, 2015, 12:07:49 PM
I can swing by tonight or tomorrow night.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 19, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
Matt and I are hitting Macs tonight for club meet greet so before 7 or tomorrow and good
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on January 19, 2015, 04:56:28 PM
before 7, then. was that with wicked jeeps? good crew at MJ this weekend, many thanks to them.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on January 19, 2015, 08:56:49 PM
What length are those spare limit straps you have?


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 19, 2015, 09:55:41 PM
29 or 30"
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 19, 2015, 10:49:36 PM
Ryan

tomorrow or wednesday for the wrap?  i can bring the tins to you or?


Which ever night let me know, i need to shoot to buffalo the other night. 

wrap install and shop clean up the other night.  Thursday gathering!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on January 19, 2015, 11:02:16 PM
We can do it there. I will call them in the morning to check status.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 20, 2015, 10:53:51 AM
cool

Wednesday night might be better anyway.

Either way let me know. 



this week is gona fly.....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on January 20, 2015, 10:54:25 AM
It will be done today. I have to check schedule,  but I think tonight is out.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 20, 2015, 12:05:02 PM
cool

ill plan to head to buffalo tonight for dinner with mom and then wrap and clean shop tomorrow!

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 20, 2015, 12:58:05 PM
rugged order due thrusday
summit order due wednesday
go pro dorder due unknoon 2 day express from sunday

Matt ordering more rugged stuff and new bling pumpers for both of us.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on January 20, 2015, 02:21:46 PM
Just picked up the wrap. They had extra material so they made some awesome stickers. (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/20/72cf826db9700fb789583582c5dd09d6.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on January 20, 2015, 10:39:57 PM
Those look great.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: tony on January 20, 2015, 10:52:20 PM
Clean.  Sharp
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 21, 2015, 08:32:30 AM
http://www.drivingline.com/2015/01/how-to-avoid-top-10-ultra4-violations/


have to look at belts and i guess window nets.  otherwise good.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 22, 2015, 12:45:46 AM
wrapped.


hood is stripped, trimmed, and on also now.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on January 22, 2015, 06:44:36 AM
Looks great what a transformation.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: CJ on January 22, 2015, 07:53:58 AM
Looking really good Mike & Ryan!!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 22, 2015, 08:00:12 AM
new shoes got swapped on for tonight also!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: tony on January 22, 2015, 08:22:50 AM
So I must say.. That color combo and wrap is an eye catcher... Did you ever go thicker with side panels
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 22, 2015, 08:41:37 AM
stayed with thin tins for race weight!


scales should be at the shop tonight for weekend weigh in
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M on January 22, 2015, 04:50:52 PM
so, whats left to do for 572? all done for race?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on January 23, 2015, 06:26:19 AM
car looks sharp... nice job!

be sure to get pre and post pics of it at KOH.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 23, 2015, 09:18:23 AM
last push list

mount harnesses
check window net
install seat
lock roof bolts down
wire light bar back to existing circuit
power to radio
mount GPS mount
install SPDT switch / circuit for front lights
rear number board
eval hood / hood paint
air cleaner tab
weigh car on race scales (God these scales are HEAVY!)
swap helmet sheild / clean helmet
in car water
first aid kit / food kit



pack tool bags
assemble fuel jugs
procure fire extinguishers
procure fuel tarps
pack totes
pit tent power assesment
remove alum box from 4500
sleeping 4500
4500 inspection
Call bank for VISA travel


Erik- i think im going to change the air filter gaurd to the bottom like you said.  such a simple thing that has stumped me- will fix easy removal, dust shield on bottom, and look way less obtrusive to the car lines. 



weekend buy list
tarps
fire ext
black bed liner spray
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on January 23, 2015, 10:10:27 AM
How long do you have the scales? I would love to get corner weights on my car for when I order 2.5s
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 23, 2015, 11:46:09 AM
probably for as long as i want them.  id like to be careful with them and keep them in the shop though.  Welcome to do it after koh. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on January 23, 2015, 01:39:47 PM
Sounds ideal, was hoping they'd be available after.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: tony on January 23, 2015, 05:09:30 PM
I'll lend a hand tomorrow around 1030 if your at m4 with final prep
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 23, 2015, 08:18:39 PM
4420 lbs first weigh in. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 24, 2015, 02:16:39 AM
Side trans tin cover reduced to 1/16" and flat blacked
removed rear fire wall 16g steel, 1/16" alum replacement lighter and safer.  goes wider and too the floor
pumper torched out

Ligher bar and radio is 15 lbs

going to work on front foot well tins tomorrow, and swap to prerun tires to check weight again.




car was 4420 and less than 3% off set front to rear AND side to side.  weird.  guess cat scales were right. 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on January 24, 2015, 10:17:53 AM
Awesome! Must be a load off knowing you're that close!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 25, 2015, 01:45:41 AM
last push list

mount harnesses
check window net
install seat
lock roof bolts down
wire light bar back to existing circuit
power to radio
mount GPS mount
install SPDT switch / circuit for front lights
rear number board
eval hood / hood paint
air cleaner tab

weigh car on race scales (God these scales are HEAVY!)
swap helmet sheild / clean helmet
in car water
first aid kit / food kit



pack tool bags
assemble fuel jugs
procure fire extinguishers
procure fuel tarps
pack totes
pit tent power assesment
remove alum box from 4500
sleeping 4500
4500 inspection
Call bank for VISA travel


Erik- i think im going to change the air filter gaurd to the bottom like you said.  such a simple thing that has stumped me- will fix easy removal, dust shield on bottom, and look way less obtrusive to the car lines. 



weekend buy list
tarps
fire ext
black bed liner spray

ready to load
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on January 25, 2015, 09:12:20 AM
I have a couple cases of epoxy chassis rattle cans If that's what your looking for
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 25, 2015, 09:49:30 AM
all set.  interior and hood got flat black bedliner.  looks mint, low reflection for night
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on January 25, 2015, 10:30:51 AM
looks awesome...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on January 25, 2015, 01:59:37 PM
Looks great! 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M on January 25, 2015, 09:45:58 PM
So when you're on the track and you encounter a point where you'd need to winch out, how do you do that when you have no codriver?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on January 25, 2015, 10:09:45 PM
You get out and do it.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 26, 2015, 12:22:43 AM
getting out sucks.  you loose 10 minutes plus what you had to do.  belts and nets and radios and pumper hose.  something is bound to get put back in an agitating way. 

your car being in the way is also a risk, especially since i cant really see behind me.  at all. 




Tonight start good, turned bad, returned to good.

pulled the rear bench seat from the 4500, made a carpet covered deck, mattress fits much better now.  Rear tool box removed.  Radio antenna mounted to headache. 

Stripped out a rear wheel stud locking down lug nuts on the car.... added spare front / rear studs to the parts pile and spare lug nuts....

packed car tool bags and on board spare parts.

pumped out matts car.  11 gals of fuel is FUCKING heavy. 
added back my remote fill to the car.  no way you guys would be able to fuel me safely without it. 

packed and packed more.  Matt and I dropping 4500 at regional 8am for sticker.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 26, 2015, 08:42:07 AM
last push list

mount harnesses
check window net
install seat
lock roof bolts down
wire light bar back to existing circuit
power to radio
mount GPS mount
install SPDT switch / circuit for front lights
rear number board
eval hood / hood paint
air cleaner tab
weigh car on race scales (God these scales are HEAVY!)
swap helmet sheild / clean helmet

in car water
first aid kit / food kit



pack tool bags
assemble fuel jugs

procure fire extinguishers
procure fuel tarps
pack totes
pit tent power assesment
remove alum box from 4500
sleeping 4500

4500 inspection
Call bank for VISA travel






weekend buy list
tarps
fire ext
black bed liner spray
headlamp




4500 radio power
footwear
spare 4500 key
fire suit
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on January 26, 2015, 03:41:46 PM
flat black hood looks nice
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 26, 2015, 04:11:15 PM
online order to walmart for some hydration packs!  see how that goes lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on January 26, 2015, 05:32:20 PM
Camel back?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: cracker on January 26, 2015, 05:40:31 PM
Don't buy camel back brand.. they support grenie organizations who are very anti ohv.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on January 26, 2015, 05:42:59 PM
Good to know.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 27, 2015, 02:51:25 AM
off brand randos that were cheap. only thing in stock for pickup.


late night second shift gnomes working at m4!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on January 27, 2015, 08:45:52 AM
the black list
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 27, 2015, 09:02:41 AM
never heard of a single one of those besides northface
Title: Re: 572
Post by: tony on January 27, 2015, 09:59:52 AM
All my stuff is camelbak. Glad our military supports this
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on January 27, 2015, 05:40:06 PM
never heard of a single one of those besides northface
you need to get out more. seems like most are local to ut,co , but youve never heard of burton snowboards or red wing shoes?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M on January 27, 2015, 07:16:07 PM
or patagonia, teva (sandals), etc
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on January 28, 2015, 12:12:06 AM
Oh i missed those names.
Next time can we get an alphabetical list of companies EROC? ;)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on January 28, 2015, 10:30:19 AM
thats from pirate its a few years old.  it is hard to read...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on January 28, 2015, 10:34:16 AM
never heard of a single one of those besides northface
you need to get out more. seems like most are local to ut,co , but youve never heard of burton snowboards or red wing shoes?

or patagonia, teva (sandals), etc

Do you guys really think Smike knows these companies you mention?  sandals?  lol
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on February 12, 2015, 09:16:45 AM
How did the recent brake rotor/caliper conversion do for the race?  Good pedal?  Good stopping power?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 12, 2015, 09:25:45 AM
braking change was transparent 

locks all 4 no problem
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 12, 2015, 07:09:01 PM
reality check

Lucas has over 9K into his motor with 512 at the crank


fawk
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on February 12, 2015, 07:37:08 PM
Replace dollars with cubes? I don't recall his base unit...


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 12, 2015, 07:42:44 PM
stroker 6 to 6.7 what i was thinking.  it thought it looked like 3K in parts over a good doner block.  some dyno work and ECM flashes.  Then probably a 4l80e upgrade
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on February 12, 2015, 08:31:14 PM
just got a hot reman of what you got.. you already have the fuel system in place..

or just go GM performance and be super done.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 12, 2015, 08:40:39 PM
you cant buy what i want lol


Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on February 12, 2015, 08:56:20 PM
if it exists it can be bought..

affordability is another thing...

what is it.. the "stroker" build of the chevy world?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on February 12, 2015, 11:19:55 PM
Buy a used Ls1 or Ls2 from that place in Buffalo. They say they have many 5.7 and 6.0 takeouts from GTOs and such. It should be plenty in stock form, or do some head work and get a few more out of it.

I think Cody Addington is running a stock bottom end LS1 with just some ported heads and got like 350 at the tires.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 13, 2015, 09:35:02 AM
this is pretty

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LS3-6-2-ENGINE-490HP-FORGED-PISTONS-LS1-LS2-LS6-LS7-/201285580028 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on February 13, 2015, 09:41:16 AM
let your sponsors work for you..

http://www.gmperformancemotor.com/category/LS.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 13, 2015, 11:59:32 AM
price for Parts #: 19301358 please   ::)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 13, 2015, 12:01:28 PM
would be anoying to re ECM/ wire / DBW the car bah
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 16, 2015, 12:44:04 PM
these and and ls1 hot cam should get me in the mid 400's with a LQ4 block.. 

https://rochester.craigslist.org/pts/4886140643.html

Talks today, i think a head and cam build on a 6.0 block is the better route for now.  spend about 2K instead of 10K bah
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 16, 2015, 12:53:40 PM
o my.  the LS forums really like to yell at people for plugging the steam ports  :o



Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on February 16, 2015, 01:11:39 PM
running your request up the GM flagpole..
don't hold breath, but free is me.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 16, 2015, 01:23:52 PM
keep an eye out for a smacked up fleet van with a 6.0 also!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on February 24, 2015, 07:19:21 PM
 http://m.summitracing.com/parts/aei-18309?seid=srese1&gclid=CN2IjpLo-8MCFbBj7AodklIA0g  (http://m.summitracing.com/parts/aei-18309?seid=srese1&gclid=CN2IjpLo-8MCFbBj7AodklIA0g)
Spendy but sounds like it cures all.
Any other options out there?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 24, 2015, 07:25:35 PM
i think my current system is fine- i just need to find the problem.  i chose to use one vented walbro, which may have been a mistake based on lack of research.

i also added 1 cubic foot of foam before KOH which could have disrupted internal plumbing. 

once the plow truck burns all the fuel in the cell, ill remove and dissemble the entire cell.  rebuild with all new parts, and put a renduant pump / filter system in as backup. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 12, 2015, 02:10:59 PM
yeah for having to pull RCVs and send them back again
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 12, 2015, 06:42:27 PM
F that product
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 13, 2015, 01:56:47 PM
Race prep list

Dissasemble fuel system- replace / clean as needed.  still having power issues after sustained WOT
Rear Fox shock and bumps instal
tree bars
nut and bolt car
adress leaking tires
eval air filtration / make mud guard
trailer prep
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 29, 2015, 12:21:15 AM
found a level of IB and jim bean Maple that allowed me to do some fuel system work tonight while Matt and Joe prepped 928



Found RCI cell internal hose disintegrated at walbro tee, sucking air 5" above bottom of cell.  This was our running out of fuel at 22gallons used issue at KOH.

All foam removed and cut into smaller pieces.  hose replaced with some other upgrades.  Walbros in good shape.

Fuel system no bubbles with 4 gallons in the cell now. 




Car race prepped, bolt checked, fluids, front shocks bumped up 1" ride height and dual rates lowered 1"   
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on April 29, 2015, 08:52:40 AM
Rci-supplied hose? The normal fuel injection rated stuff we use should be submersion rated but who knows what they use. Crappy, but good it was obvious and easily fixed.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 29, 2015, 09:20:42 AM
yes RCI supplied hose.  looks like it was standard trans cooler type hose with a push connect AN at the top connected to the bulk head fitting though tank.  i suspect the hose is not rated for ethanol like there foam and cell gaskets aren't.


regular PFI hose is NOT submersible.  The ethanol rated coating inside the hose is very thin and weak, strengthened with a not rated external fiber reinforced shell.

rubber submersible hose is very expensive, like dollars per inch- i used some to connect my walbros inside the cell.  it was in great shape. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 29, 2015, 09:36:34 AM
571 and 928 should have all aluminum hard pickups of it recall
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on April 29, 2015, 09:53:33 AM
My foam is still bagged in a cabinet, and I'm not racing any u4 this year, so I might confirm that next winter? :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 08, 2015, 10:01:45 PM
ran 30 miles like a rapped ape.  loved front shock mounts in the trees.  shock preload and dual rate adjustments were massive improvements.  limped 10 miles to finish 40 miles


barely wanted to climb trailer fenders tonight to unload.  at least the problem is still present.  going to tear into fuel system- pull and flush injectors, change pump, check cell pickups again. 

install fuel pressure gage





man this thing is dirty i hate mud races. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on May 09, 2015, 09:51:32 AM

install fuel pressure gage.

Step 1?


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 09, 2015, 09:52:55 AM
probably! lol

i think i can just screw one on the rail schrader port
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on May 09, 2015, 03:21:32 PM
probably! lol

i think i can just screw one on the rail schrader port

does the ECM make any fuel decisions?     Limp mode?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 09, 2015, 08:36:24 PM
it makes all the decisions.  no current way to get a reader on it.

4 wheel spin on loading dock had good power and good fuel pressure. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on May 09, 2015, 10:03:22 PM
So it fixed itself? Crap.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on May 11, 2015, 07:58:39 AM
http://rochester.craigslist.org/pts/5007223380.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 11, 2015, 09:45:53 AM
not really much of a power upgrade, no harness is deal breaker, priced 2x what its worth anyway. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on May 15, 2015, 03:05:13 PM
SMike..
you happy with the rock series winch?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 15, 2015, 04:18:41 PM
i only used it once so far, so no verdict yet.


love it for speed loaded and even faster loaded though.  well worth weight savings too. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 20, 2015, 12:04:07 PM
this thing has a 4l80 in it not a 4l60


i guess thats why the trans aint care
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 20, 2015, 12:15:04 PM
put air in the leaking tire and loaded in the trailer
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M on May 20, 2015, 03:16:39 PM
this thing has a 4l80 in it not a 4l60


i guess thats why the trans aint care

did you think it had a 4l60 all this time?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 20, 2015, 04:30:10 PM
no clue the visual difference.  i assumed it was a 4l60e, but wiki says all 2500's have 4l80e

ill have to confirm i guess next time the car is torn down  (its kinda buried inside and not visible 99% of the time)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 01, 2015, 11:56:54 PM
got the lift tonight on this guy


found a broken rear slider bolt!  new failure, suspect wreck wheeling slammed calliper up i guess?

also found a huge chunk of black rubber gasket material blocking filter inlet.  going to change filter and pump, call that fixed for now. 



not sure my plan for 2" fox bumps is going to be a bolt on swap.  the can lengths are much different and i was bottoming on the end of the bump in my design.  might just run as is for now, fix can mounts for IN race.

rear shocks and limit straps pulled for Fox 2.5 install
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 03, 2015, 09:55:47 AM
prepped and done

motor sounds reborn with 60psi of fuel instead of 45.  filter was being blocked by a 1.5"x.5"x.5" hunk of jello gooo inner hose gunk.
Fox 2.5 rear CO's installed
rear slider bolt replaced (pulled spare that was in on board tool bag)
front pinion fixed and welded
fire ext replaced from brolite
bolt check and lube
fluid checks
swapped back to old bump setup- new foxs are too different in length and will cause shock crashing.  fix TBD

will need all new lower heims soon.  significant play everywhere....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 09, 2015, 11:05:46 AM
Full set of all Link heims ordered with SS misalignments
parts to fix hydraulics with filter, and some fitting angle changes / new hoses ordered
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 11, 2015, 09:53:22 AM
Badlands list

Tree bars
hydro lines / steering filter
Link heim replacements
spares in order
tins / wrap
air filter change
fluids check
lube
change tins back to bolts for quick changes
tire situation eval

trailer prep
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 11, 2015, 11:08:40 PM
koh flat Erik changed dismounted.  only a small pin hole found in the side wall..   easy patch. 

Thanks again Erik and Cora for catching a hissing tire before i destroyed it!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on June 14, 2015, 09:26:25 AM
koh flat Erik changed dismounted.  only a small pin hole found in the side wall..   easy patch. 

Thanks again Erik and Cora for catching a hissing tire before i destroyed it!
You Betcha

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 16, 2015, 12:31:32 AM
chassis power washed down again
front hydro lines and fittings re arranged for fix
fluid containment balloons swapped



i seem to have a bolt / miss alignment failure and not the actual heims that are wearing and causing the slop.  not sure whats up. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 16, 2015, 11:01:28 AM
You're still not on top locks, right? Could be loosening just a smidge and allowing some play/slam/wear?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 16, 2015, 11:36:56 AM
All top locked and checked tight at least 2x since KOH.  Heim ball doesnt move, bolt doesn move.  misallignment moves in heim and around bolt. 


i did notice some of the tabs are not quite parallel and maybe edge loading the missalignment so might adjust and add some washers ect
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 16, 2015, 01:51:39 PM
Could the misalignment spacers be just a little bit long inside the Heim joint?

I guess that would not explain the spacers moving on the bolt, just the ball around the spacers


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 16, 2015, 04:07:21 PM
i think its just the softest material compared to the heim ball and the 3/4" bolt and it got beat.


We are changing to all Stainless steel misalignments for east coast problems.  i guess the strength will be      different. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: CJ on June 16, 2015, 08:45:13 PM
I can test hardness of old and new stainless spacers of you really want to know.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 16, 2015, 11:15:42 PM
i could to, and do a lot more at work- but it wouldnt matter.  we are stuck with what we have.  SS should be here tomorrow. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 16, 2015, 11:17:01 PM
wheel bearing service completed.

2 new KRTs mounted up, 3 more tomorrow after sifting though worst mounted on KMCs

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 17, 2015, 03:08:54 PM
SS misalignments made it in today
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 18, 2015, 12:06:13 AM
all new 3/4" grade 8 link hard ware and new SS misalignment spacers installed.  8 heims out of 12 changed for any kind of play.  front upper was fine on both ends, rear right side lower was fine. 

all joints had crushed/worn misalignments as 90% of play.  looking at the thickness of the design, i think its just weak and crushes with race prep torque.  see how the SS work.  i didnt go nuts and only torqued with impact instead of 3' bar hump. 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on June 18, 2015, 07:58:41 AM
1-1/4" Ruffstuff chryo Teflon etc etc heims?

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 18, 2015, 09:04:27 AM
yes
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 18, 2015, 03:35:55 PM
best i can tell for 572

LR 150 / 250   16/18 @ 33.3" free height __ shaft
RR 150 / 250   16/18 @ 33.0" free height __ shaft

LF 125/150 14/14   @ ____ free height __ shaft
RF 125/150 14/14   @____ free height __ shaft
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 19, 2015, 12:39:22 AM
new tins and tree bars on tonight
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 20, 2015, 12:38:50 AM
tins fit to tree bars
2 more tires mounted up
air filter serviced
grease job



race ready minus fuel, wrap and tin install, tool bag pack. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 30, 2015, 05:16:31 PM
sick of fuel system issues
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on June 30, 2015, 07:39:37 PM
fuel pick up issues?

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/hydramat/
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 03, 2015, 11:49:29 PM
Broken 4340 14 bolt shaft today.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M on July 04, 2015, 02:48:45 PM
fuel pick up issues?

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/hydramat/

https://youtu.be/yfE1v65fNZI?t=21s

impressive
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 09, 2015, 03:31:04 PM
gona start banking parts for a 14bolt front axle build

tricky part i dont see much about is making the 35sline RCVs play in something that will hold a 14 bolt ring gear.  rest is easy with seals, a new pair of solid C's and parts swap. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on July 09, 2015, 03:36:43 PM
what does the Torq axle use?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 09, 2015, 03:43:47 PM
I know one potential solution is having ARB side gears broached.

not sure what others use. more likely custom axle shafts to match the standard 14b 32sp involute?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 09, 2015, 04:41:55 PM
14bolt is 30 spline on 1.5" 
60 is also 1.5"and of course 35 spline. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on July 09, 2015, 05:09:47 PM
Here is an interesting quote.

35 spline would be a strength downgrade from the factory 14-bolt 30 spline layout, so I'd be surprised if anybody will be offering them as a standard-production item.

Personally, I think if I had to have that, I'd make it out of a set of D60 side gears, a stock 14-bolt carrier, some tube scraps, and a bunch of welding wire.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 09, 2015, 05:28:03 PM
yes, i read that also.  in the same thread i also read someone say that running a 14bolt backwards is no stronger than a 60 forwards... which we have proven false many times over this year. 


I also have $6K in axle shafts that are 35spline.  could spend 2K on 4 more custom inners, that would be much lead time to replace. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: CJ on July 10, 2015, 06:46:39 AM
I have a Dana 60 broach, didn't need one for my 14 Bolt design.

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 10, 2015, 09:13:20 AM
can i have and aussie that fits in a 14 but is broached for 35 spline 60?   :)   


that would solve all my problems haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: CJ on July 10, 2015, 10:58:15 AM
Yes you can!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 10, 2015, 01:22:37 PM
wonder how materials compare to a yukon spool to hold the 300M


Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 12, 2015, 10:15:32 PM
pulled in tonight.


i have two failing non water proof switches for front lights and HI rad fan.  need to source match to other waterproof switches.
exhaust flange swapped to 3000 deg graphite
flat tire from badlands got two new valve stems
pumped 22 gallons of fuel from cell after when erik put 10 gallons in last lab of badlands and a full hard day of wheeling with Gif at RC.  At about 8 gallons pumped, air started to show in supply.  AN fitting on cell found to be finger tight!  F 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 13, 2015, 09:57:57 AM
WOOOOO finger loose! :-/

Hope that was it. You digging deeper?


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 13, 2015, 11:14:27 AM
will being able to pull 22 gallons out of the cell after badlands lap and day at RC, im good for now.  if i have problems at line mt, ill pull cell apart again. 


My LifetimeLED headlights took a beating from the front end loader chain at badlands!  tweaked and cracked but adjusted and still working lol 
chassis tube up front found cracked
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 14, 2015, 08:52:13 AM
put 29 gallons in the cell
bolt checked
rear left tire changed back to full tread
fuel filter changed
lubed

just need to swap two switches and dry out the seat.

just about race ready.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 18, 2015, 09:03:15 PM
car working great.  felt a little loose first lap but i just needed to settle in.


Eric peterson pulled over to let me by, i went through some tall grass and found a 24" tree stump.   hit hard.  thought the car was ok but soon after the rest of the chassis mounted front 3rd link mount let go.  i thought it was the front R&P so i continued to run at reduced pace on lap 3. 

the link slamming around eventually took out wires that killed the motor.  severe damage, front coilovers, shafts, bump and steering damage, front drive shaft yokes beat.


2 hours to strap it to mobile and limped rest of 3rd lap.

worst carnage to date probably.  shitty.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: jacel861 on July 18, 2015, 09:30:45 PM
You and trees just don't mix! Sorry to hear, that sucks.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 19, 2015, 12:01:26 AM
Only one incident can really compare. Considering that one cracked the transmission case as well, it's still in contention for worst.

Really sucks. I'm glad you didn't get hurt.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on July 19, 2015, 09:06:56 PM
I thought it was bad when we were bombing around RC south property and hit a few of the new stumps at wreck wheeling speed.
Cant imagine at race speed!

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 20, 2015, 09:21:27 AM
too see the materials and sizes of welds that failed on the car- is impressive.  the third link mount to the floor failed at impact- but felt fine because the main support tube just bent up and jammed up against the dash bar but eventually failed miles later and started flooping around and took out the main power too my dash panel.  Low side driven fans and radio was good so i knew it wasnt total electrical failure. 


my neck hurt all day yesterday, is pretty good today. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 20, 2015, 02:36:26 PM
Wayne got some new shock eyelets from Fox this weekend at a short course race he was at.

Also talking to the guys at PolyPerformance about getting on the race program and waiting to hear back express shipping quotes for shafts, eyelets, and a gallon of spendy oil. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on July 20, 2015, 09:21:22 PM
in before their express shipping turns to 3 weeks
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 20, 2015, 10:41:13 PM
washed

front right tire leaking air
upper link mount on axle truss cracked and ready to tear off
chassis upper link mount failure
30% brakes for unknown reason
looks like front CO shafts are ok.
One bent eye, one blown eye
rear coilover dual rates set too low, bottom coil crashing and exploded dual rate spacer both sides had to pound down upper coils.   
right rear coil over lower coil flapping around and beat up bottom of the shock like profenders do normally.  FAIL from IN tuning fix. 
front shaft slip yoke hosed
front D60 yoke hosed
lost gallon of coolant in fluids storage

at this point i left the shop and sick of looking at it. 

Fuck this thing.  sick of 1000$ to run a 40$ race
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 22, 2015, 12:28:20 AM
parts on the way
de trail rigged and spares / tools removed for short course. 


badness cut out and most of heavy fab work done and full welded on the chassis side.


brake line found failed. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 22, 2015, 01:03:13 PM
no response from poly guys, after live chat "he was back from lunch and sitting down to it now" 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 22, 2015, 01:08:03 PM
that really annoys me- i put together a nice professional proposal and they new that really i just needed parts quick this time, but would like to be on there race program for next time.  no responce.  Glad i just moved forward with Chris and Wyane at Altech to get parts.



50$ a gallon for shock oil!  eeek 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 23, 2015, 12:06:26 AM
front upper link back in, new driveshaft in, brake line replaced.  steering and brakes bled, full zip tied!

tomorrow shock parts order should be in, need to pull all 4 shocks for parts to swap in, going to increase spring rate in the rear also. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 24, 2015, 08:52:40 AM
good to go minus tire swap.  Might change in new 300M RCV
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 02, 2015, 11:35:45 PM
12 laps of short course is too much for my cooling system.  first time its been pushed.  We got lucky Derek West flipped in the woods caused a Red flag that gave us 20minutes of recovery time before the last 4 laps of the race once restarted.



Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 02, 2015, 11:37:54 PM
we need more HP simple as that if ever coming back to Sturgis. 


new shocks in the rear and springs felt good.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 02, 2015, 09:18:57 AM
hmmm

found one of my drive slug snap rings sitting on the bench   ??? 


too many visitors or too much beer?  hope that 300M stub lived this weekend
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 14, 2015, 11:01:23 AM
continued fuel system issues past 8-10 gallons used. 


cell getting pumped out and pulled again this week.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 16, 2015, 09:50:18 AM
total fuel cell disassembly last night.  Found hardlines and walbros on top of foam chunks.  drained, pulled foam, cleaned and shopvac'd crap out of cell.  leak checked pickup to walbros no leak. 

pulled foam, reassembled, fixed leaking cap.  (was a vented cap)

changed fuel filter, all is good so far. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 16, 2015, 10:45:02 AM
yellow foam?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 16, 2015, 01:21:19 PM
foam was in good shape- there was chunks of disolved black hose, black gasket and orange gaskets.  the 70um walbros really keep any big crap from getting up to the main filter and pump. 


im going to go solid baffling for KOH now that the cell is clean.  my try the grey thin sewer drain and see if fuel kills it
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 16, 2015, 01:26:31 PM
Try it in a bucket first :)


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 16, 2015, 01:38:18 PM
probably just give Wayne 200$ for his stuff.  Might ask our materials people here for off the shelf ideas to put up with pump gas
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 16, 2015, 03:52:37 PM
old gas cans :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 16, 2015, 03:56:18 PM
thats not a terrible idea lol


we have about 10 YJ poly tanks out back, also have a 22 gallon fuel cell.  could cut some 2" rings and stick them in.  would be a lot of deburing thouh from a chain saw blade or circ saw the cut it

Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 16, 2015, 05:13:28 PM
Wouldn't take much to clean them up with a fresh flap wheel. Would be harder to make sure they are really clean than deburred. I don't know about the shape of those YJ tanks and making shapes that wouldn't nest, while still fitting through the hole.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 16, 2015, 05:18:00 PM
i was thinking taking the tank and slicing it like a loaf of bread,2-3" thick rings would fold into the 6" hole i have.  i bet 2 tanks would do it with 20 rings
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on September 16, 2015, 09:19:51 PM
Stupid question, but this is to reduce sloshing?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 16, 2015, 10:58:50 PM
its a required tech item for Ultra4


crash protection with a half full cell not wanting to slam through and rupture. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on September 17, 2015, 06:44:37 AM
use the tire grooving tool, then no deburring necessary
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 17, 2015, 09:46:04 AM
or the air shear or power nibbler. 


The other idea, possibly more simpler i read about guys doing, cutting the tops and bottoms of 1quart oil jugs
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on September 17, 2015, 10:18:05 AM
http://www.alltechmotorsports.com/accessories.html

Call for a racers discount
Title: Re: 572
Post by: CJ on September 17, 2015, 10:19:02 AM
would anything hard in the tank, like the pick-ups, be vulnerable to plastic chunks sloshing around?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 17, 2015, 10:41:11 AM
Very much so. Anything like this has to be packed in there pretty tightly.

Oil quarts is probably the best low buck option in this vein, I'd seen them discussed before Wayne found his supplier. That, and things like bike water bottles.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 20, 2015, 09:27:49 PM
car was running great.  i backed off a bit this race and kept in comfortable control

heard what sounded like one of my headers fell off, then got sprayed with hot coolant.  Hans and fire suit kept from steam burns on my back and neck.  2 fellow racers helped pull me out of the car fast.  in the moment i was looking at the wrong dam gage and couldn't understand what was occurring.  Radiator fan blade blew off motor.  pinned gage, probably motor damage with this one. 


Magivered one of my trans coolers in front of the radiator which allowed me to drive at 260-275 in 1/4 mile bursts with a cool down of about 5 mins off. 

2 fast consistent laps, short cutted out to camp on lap 3. 


no fuel issues to report. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on September 21, 2015, 02:37:37 PM
next time you look for tires maybe consider these
http://www.rdmoffroad.com/General-Grabber-Competition.aspx
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 21, 2015, 04:07:29 PM
id like to stick to 40"s 


Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on September 21, 2015, 04:27:44 PM
broken fan blade is a random failure  :o

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 21, 2015, 04:30:07 PM
not really.  we have had 3 taurus fan failures so far this year.  they cant take racing.  time to move on. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 21, 2015, 04:31:21 PM
the fan looked ok, most likely the retainer clip vacated.  maybe welding it to the shaft would fix that not sure.  wont know until it comes out, and thats about a 3 hour job. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on September 21, 2015, 04:32:26 PM
 debris getting to the blades ?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 21, 2015, 04:36:03 PM
Mikes i think motor burned up and seized, Matts the fan housing broke muitiple times, we made a steel cage that seems to have fixed.


My first fail, motor bearings failed and seized, this one the blade assembly vacated from motor shaft.  Mine is very protected and stays clean. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 21, 2015, 04:56:03 PM
My motor went electrically open. still spins free.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 25, 2015, 08:14:58 AM
Moved last night out of the trailer.  Cylinder #2 def a COLD HOLE.   

Boooo.   

Probably do compression check after confirming no electrical issues, then pull that head, its the easy access side. it will be less than an hour of work on that side, and either a new head would fix (if combustion chamber isnt box of rocks) or with the top end removed, maybe the motor would lift out without chassis cutting.  meh. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 03, 2015, 04:43:44 PM
#2 has compression (same finger check pass as cylindar next to it) and spark. 

plug is black and wet.  still a cold hole with plug swapped. 

not sure what that means?   going to pull exhaust manifold and watch valves  on cranking. 

addition 5.3 doner or heads for 6.0 build acquired.  4l60e 4x4 core also came with it.  350$ complete
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on October 03, 2015, 07:26:04 PM
Swap wire and coil... Seems weird.

Score on truck.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 04, 2015, 09:36:10 PM
power washed and hot lapped back to the shop.  starting to think this thing was on 7 cylindars for a while.  it feels the same fine.  #2 is dead. 


still need to do compression but everything else is ok.  no fire. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 04, 2015, 10:53:19 PM
seems like there are alot of junkyard LM7 with Ebay turbo builds that are pushing 600hp



sounds like something worth investigation. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 05, 2015, 06:53:03 PM
WTF


125psi compression in the #2 cold hole

running down the head back to front, 120,120,118
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 05, 2015, 06:56:11 PM
Quote
What is common, if you have a very high mileage engine... is low compression across the board. Low usually means anything under 120 PSI (although the service manual says 100 PSI is the minimum). If your engine has reached this point... it's also smoking from the quart of oil it's burning every few days. The other symptoms you'll see is that the idle will be very rough.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 05, 2015, 06:59:02 PM
i guess next is swap an injector.  maybe the wetness observed on the plug is oil and not fuel? 


coil pack, wire, plug swapped to another cylinder, work fine after some at work suggest spark loss under compression.

Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on October 05, 2015, 07:58:03 PM
must be fuel based on the above findings
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 05, 2015, 11:57:44 PM
injector resistance good.  pulled injector.  minimal debris in 30um inlet filter.  flushed and verified function.  cranked and fired motor with bank of injectors out of the intake.  no fuel spray from the cold hole.

ground good to injector.  pulled ECM pinouts... no dice for continuity to the pin it is supose too be! 


wire harness failure. 


bingo, jumped in a new wire for testing, V8 status returned. 

now to assemble, and fill with water / fix radiator / remove trail fix hacks and see if head gaskets blown at temp. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on October 06, 2015, 08:29:24 AM
Nice work!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on October 06, 2015, 08:37:47 AM
Let's hope that was it!

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 07, 2015, 12:20:14 AM
reassembled and filled rad with water.  heat cycled to 240 and runs like rapped ape.  i think she is ready for KOH round 2...... 



yessssss.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on October 07, 2015, 08:41:13 AM
I hope so! Damn thats weird. You find the actual short/ wire damage? Look fresh?

The change in exhaust note is whats staying with me here, would love to explain that.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 12, 2015, 10:00:39 AM
motor is good to go.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on October 12, 2015, 10:04:06 AM
takes a licking' and keeps on ticking'... !!!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 08, 2015, 11:03:30 PM
KOH 2016 prep started.

list on the wall.


this weekend- stripped and deep power wash cleaned
Tree bars cut off and metal prepped and painted
front tow hooks repaired / welded up
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 09, 2015, 09:37:36 AM
ruff stuff order placed for heim overhaul
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 09, 2015, 09:55:54 AM
invoice requested for fresh limit straps from trail gear.

need to send broken yukon and RCV parts back this week. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 10, 2015, 02:44:00 PM
chassis damage repairs made last night
front bumper got wrapped with new DOM
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 13, 2015, 04:17:35 PM
37$ to send a broken yukon shaft back to WA state
18$ to send a broken RCV shaft back to IL



lame
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 16, 2015, 08:53:27 AM
fuel cell pulled and disassembled, inspected, cleaned and re assembled.  pump had pulled down to <1 gallon fuel left in cell.
power steering system cleaned, and leak found.  going to have to pull apart- failed oring inside the can.  boo.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 17, 2015, 09:39:20 AM
oil changed
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 17, 2015, 04:10:03 PM
25749748
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 18, 2015, 12:23:19 AM
all bad heims replaced tonight.  tight as a new girl.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 19, 2015, 12:19:24 AM
front axle torn down
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 20, 2015, 12:32:24 AM
new ring and pinion, full bearings, and a new 1350 yoke on the front housing installed.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on November 20, 2015, 06:57:23 PM
How much steel is left on the diff?   
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 20, 2015, 07:08:23 PM
diffs are still good from last year KOH prep.  didnt really do any rock races this year...


in fact, the 14 bolt has the same oil in it since KOH2015 prep which is unheard of for me for a year.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 23, 2015, 01:10:31 PM
stripped and fresh coat of paint on the chassis
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on November 23, 2015, 01:54:36 PM
Looks good with the paint!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 23, 2015, 03:05:52 PM
replacement 4340 14 bolt shaft on the way
replacement 300M long side RCV on the way
300M CV rebuild, boot, and more grease ordered
New Corebeau XP ordered
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 27, 2015, 06:47:28 PM
front limit straps swapped for news
yukon shaft came in
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 06, 2015, 10:51:33 PM
100 new lug nuts ordered
not much work this weekend
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 07, 2015, 04:59:04 PM
i guess this is the family of GM PN for the van pumps
Brand: GM OEM
Part Numbers: 15928343, 26069075, 15766348, 20832683, 25745840, 15270799, 20832683, 25749748, 88963503
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 07, 2015, 04:59:41 PM
this is what i have on the car that leaks a tiny bit

http://www.idealsurplus.com/hydraulic-pump-gm-25749748-power-steering-unit-pl031222a.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 07, 2015, 05:00:20 PM
another updated PN and found available

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-15928343-Steering-Pump-/301773656840?hash=item46431c9308:g:-n8AAOSw9mFWJqpF&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on December 07, 2015, 06:15:21 PM
did you pull the old one yet?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 08, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
no- havent made a decision yet.  steering is a pretty critical part of the car, and i want to make sure no contamination or changes occur to the system. 

i took the mounting bolt out the back and Red RTV'd it, has stopped weeping.  could run it as is.  its been weeping for at least 2 races now. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 14, 2015, 04:11:55 PM
made some orders, hopefully the last wave of $$ for this year

SPDT with center off water proof toggle switches ordered for front cube lights (amber/white) and for main Radiator fan (hi/low)
new fire suit
new helmet shield
more header wrap and clamps
full hydraulics replacement from surplus
OEM GM steering pump ordered
bulk punching balloons from ebay found
couple new air filters found similar sizes for cheap to play with
more TG limit straps for rear
comp cam clamps
SAE fittings for Matts trans cooler

Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on December 14, 2015, 08:18:35 PM
pop the old PS pump out of the can and post up a pic of the back of it...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 17, 2015, 09:52:15 AM
4 boxes o parts came yesterday
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 21, 2015, 11:40:43 PM
FYI Matt can hear my car ripping around the cartwright lot from his apartment with all the windows up haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on December 27, 2015, 11:51:59 PM
ready to load minus tool bags, 14 bolt replacement shaft, wrap. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 12, 2016, 11:00:49 PM
new wrap and tins installed tonight. 


just need to charge shocks and bumps closer to load night, new lug nuts, and strap down the tool bags.  ready for the lake bed. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 10, 2016, 03:38:57 PM
koh2016 notes

shocks still suck
shattered power steering cooler
trans failure (snap, not slippage)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 10, 2016, 03:41:54 PM
1. reman trans
2. 12 or 14" 2.5" bipass fronts with 10 or 12" coil carriers
3. 14 bolt front axle
4. turbo 5.3 build / dyno work
5. investigate brakes and steering upgrades
Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on February 11, 2016, 12:16:57 PM

4. turbo 5.3 build / dyno work


Oh this could get interesting
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 14, 2016, 07:37:38 PM
going to concentrate on getting this thing sorted this year to either sell or hit back racing hard again in 2017.  By this winter, i may start on a new 2 seater multi use truck.   

Racing is getting tiring, id really like something with summer plates on it that can take my abuse 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on February 15, 2016, 12:42:30 AM
going to concentrate on getting this thing sorted this year to either sell or hit back racing hard again in 2017.  By this winter, i may start on a new 2 seater multi use truck.   

Racing is getting tiring, id really like something with summer plates on it that can take my abuse


If your going to sell 572, just repair the the tranny, let the new owner sort out the rest.

I agree that a dual purpose rig would be nice.  But the fact is you crossed over to dedicated off road vehicles. Thats hard to come back from.  No way could i tolerate 100:1 gear ratios and slow wheeling.   Thats the only way those dual purpose rigs survive.

Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on February 15, 2016, 08:18:28 AM
I've not experienced the full race car stage but I can see Gif's logic.

But sMike didn't say anything about going slow, just being able to plate and drive what he races.  4600 class calling?

I can't wait to see what sMike comes up with next!  I've thought something might be changing soon...  :P
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 15, 2016, 08:47:56 AM
mild pro4, that runs the street and crawls 95% of what the buggies do would be the theme haha

who knows havent really though much about it yet. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on February 15, 2016, 09:20:48 AM
I got a 68 commando that's worth more in parts to me than a complete vehicle..

clean NYS title..
Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on February 15, 2016, 12:17:08 PM
Wonder how hard it would be to have something like this be street legal

(http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachments/general-4x4-discussion/614373d1313372916-hallstyle-ifs-early-bronco-skinned-buggy-build-ifs-bronco-037.jpg)

Or
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag74/Mickeymomo1/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsqzlsukjx.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 20, 2016, 05:05:39 PM
unit relocated to the shop.

90% unpacked from KOH
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 21, 2016, 06:45:17 PM
got a 1/3 into trans pull and found the range shifter position sensor is cracked..... 

stopped and need to do research.  probably should have read trans codes, and possibly change this sensor or at least swap with the other one sitting on the shop floor.  gona be pissed if thats all it is. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on February 21, 2016, 08:25:27 PM
range shifter position? Is that something that reads shifter position in addition to where the control valve is in the valve body?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 21, 2016, 08:53:40 PM
not a ton of info i can find (maybe my issue)  i thought the mechanical lever only really actuates the park pin and detents for the other possitions.  the sensor is what tells the trans what to do. 


other tell tail i found with my no motion in any gear, check level engine off, then check level engine on in P, if same level, pump blown.  if lower, pump is working. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on February 21, 2016, 09:04:36 PM
Are you certain the pump runs in Park? I don't know for certain on the GM trannies, but I do know on the Mopars you must check in N. The pump is disengaged in P. Best practice to cool them off in N for the same reason.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 21, 2016, 09:42:37 PM
i dont know.  i think when i flush my cooler it pumps in any gear and P with engine on


21. No movement in any gear: pump failure, or total loss of fluid. Remove transmission and rebuild, or refill pan and find the leak. If out of fluid, avoid running the engine until the transmission is refilled to avoid pump damage. To check for pump failure, check fluid level with the engine off, then start the engine and recheck fluid level. If level does not go down when engine is running, the pump is broken
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on February 21, 2016, 09:44:45 PM
GM is check fluid in Park. Just checked mine yesterday and it said to check in Park on the dipstick

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 21, 2016, 09:54:50 PM
what trans your YJ have ryan?


can you unplug the two connectors from the range sensor and see if the trans works at all :) ?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on February 21, 2016, 10:07:50 PM
I've been doing some reading lately on 4L60E. This is the trans I've installed in the Willys.

The "range sensor" is primarily for P & N safety switch and idle bump when in gear. It also provides dash with info for display.

All of that to say the trans will operate just fine without the "range sensor".
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 21, 2016, 10:21:54 PM
also considering going to a bipass air shock w/res on the front of my car. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Ryan on February 21, 2016, 10:38:49 PM
4L60E

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 27, 2016, 12:59:03 AM
trans is out
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2016, 05:54:49 PM
looks like we are getting some motion ratio up front and doing link mounted CO's    o boy
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on March 15, 2016, 06:01:51 PM
👍🏻

go git it!

waiting on another response, probably DSC on my car. no numbers yet, not too quick on email turnaround.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2016, 08:43:20 PM
i ping'd him twice to answer you.  his # is 951 675 8224 and a phone call seems to go a long way.  got a shock quote for me at 25% off fox retail in <24hrs from his local King Guys that have stuff on the shelf, as opposed to 10-12 weeks for fox to build. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 16, 2016, 08:25:10 AM
ADS has very fast turn around!

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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 16, 2016, 08:36:53 AM
We have a great relationship with our Fox contacts and I expect no delays in my time frame.  The ADS guys seemed pretty relaxed and cool, but i have never seen them before at any event (or heard of them).  Having Wayne and Chris come out to east coast U4 races and even private VA tune sessions seems invaluable to our needs.

Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on March 16, 2016, 09:32:03 AM
they are west coast time, right? any times better or worse to call or something like 9-6 PT?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 16, 2016, 09:39:17 AM
chris has always picks up his phone,  he is usually banging on shocks when you talk to him though haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 23, 2016, 10:02:44 PM
broke free the Torque converter from my trans.  pump inner gear failure occured.  very sad, two little nubs of metal stopped me.  interweb says 700r4 and 4l60e are powder metal inner gears.  will have to see what this one is because its a rebuild. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 28, 2016, 02:15:18 PM
gaskets and seals, along with a deep pan and filter, new range switch ordered.  141$ in parts.

Plan to swap pump and converter from spare core sitting on shop floor and run it. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 29, 2016, 09:06:01 AM
ordered material for new front shock mounts.  cant find any pictures or ideas near what i want to do so just going to do it haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 29, 2016, 03:16:24 PM
front springs should be 250/300 on a 10" CO now.  just need to measure and adjust for my link dimension guesses. 
12" 4 tube 2.5 bipass going where the old CO were. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 31, 2016, 11:37:31 PM
swapped in another pump to trans, added a deep pan and filter.  ready to put back in minus needing a new rear tail housing extension. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 02, 2016, 01:17:56 PM
back in car and hooked up.  turns both ways now.  should be ready for a lot test after seat and zip ties. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 02, 2016, 07:07:19 PM
back in business.  full tear around shop all is well.  snowing now :(

swapped out broken power steering cooler.  also found a finger size rock that had one of my trans cooler fans locked solid, fixed. 



race ready minus some fluids checks, and waiting for shocks. 

Material for front link saddle mounts came in.  shouldn't be more than a night of fab to get new shocks on when they show up. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 18, 2016, 04:34:53 PM
Fedex from OH should get me a front cover by wednesday or so.  Probably should prep it and pull the cover to make sure anything else isnt broken ha

race prep / VA prep will in volve grease job and bolt check, tool pack for wreck wheeling. 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 21, 2016, 02:24:22 AM
new front diff cover, grease job, bolt check, fueled and loaded in the trailer for 3 days of wheeling and a 50 mile race. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 03, 2016, 11:32:14 PM
solid run on this unit.


prerunning i hit something the hardest i ever have that threw the front diff 3' in the air at 30mph.  worse than the stump hit that failed the 3 link.  kept on it, found another dented diff cover when returned to pit. 


no race issues, treated the car like a stole it entire course, almost ran out of talent on the back straight near 81 but stayed in it and powered out of loosing the rear end down the ravine.  Trans performed as it should with new pump install.  power of car more than adequate.  looked up and saw 67 in the woods straight the instant before letting up far beyond point of fear. 


3 link feels loose, would like better brakes and front shock package is still a mess at low speed chop. seems to be best at 40mph over 6-10" chop but that takes commitment. 


Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 02, 2016, 09:30:07 AM
bolt check and loaded

fox has new shocks done
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 02, 2016, 09:41:20 AM
7 weeks? 8?
Glad they’re finally done. Oi!


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 02, 2016, 01:05:57 PM
the quote has 3/14 on it

ha, i didnt really push it.  chris doesnt work with Wayne anymore either. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2016, 09:47:28 PM
carrier bearing failure, loop support contained rear shaft and any other damage- did its job.  probably could have continued but it sounded like rear gear set. 

front right flat- looks like driving on it carefully at a slower pace saved the wheel. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 06, 2016, 08:47:30 PM
considering changing to a 3" pillow block bearing.  need to wash and tear down tomorrow night.  bah. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 10, 2016, 01:50:38 AM
rebuild rear shaft tonight and installed.



discovered the grease fitting is not to grease the alignment, but there is a grove and hole in the actual bearing that pumps grease into the internals of the pillow bearing.....

fail on my part.   


cant believe all of our cars have lasted so long with out a few shots of lube there ever. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 10, 2016, 02:02:14 PM
grease hole
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on June 10, 2016, 03:05:46 PM
should look like this with grease pushing out the bearing

This is what mine looked like new

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/jeepgif/8B84ECBA-6A40-4555-9DD0-5B873BD76034_zpsu4aawx0c.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 10, 2016, 03:12:47 PM
ya, never knew that- assumed they were sealed.  fail on me. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 10, 2016, 11:22:45 PM
finished reassembly, prepped and loaded in trailer for next outing. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: dubt on June 11, 2016, 07:36:47 AM
Thought it was odd you could not grease it
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 20, 2016, 01:33:48 PM
good weekend no issues.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 24, 2016, 09:14:48 AM
shocks on the way

on the phone with PAC now since they dont have in stock what i ordered bah

because 200's are so rare!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 24, 2016, 12:07:57 PM
200/225's on the way for my front
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 29, 2016, 08:08:54 AM
springs came yesterday
hopefully grabbing shocks from Arie's dock after work today!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 29, 2016, 10:35:10 PM
shocks showed up today
Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on June 30, 2016, 07:28:47 AM
That's some nice jewelry.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 01, 2016, 12:55:20 AM
bipasses slid right in, have a plan and a start for CO mounts.  probably need to get shorty lower eyes to help out for the CO's that should have been 10's instead of 12's


Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 01, 2016, 11:17:41 AM
also found 4 lug nuts missing from the tire that got changed at line MT race lap1, a 5th lug nut was cross threaded and my new 20V impact took joy in shearing that stud easily.   

no idea how many miles of wreck wheeling it was run like that


Hack shack racing no good for tire change help!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: matt on July 01, 2016, 12:00:27 PM
What is the sleeve w/ pinch bolts on the lower for?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 01, 2016, 12:29:12 PM
coilover shock mount.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 01, 2016, 10:19:55 PM
upper CO mount thats happy still hasnt appeared.  all other work sorted and just about done with loose bolts. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 03, 2016, 11:34:08 PM
good day at rausch.  front shocks feel great- still room for a lot of tuning but definitely get things moving around more and under control. 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2016, 10:04:54 PM
race prep list:

wash
check front end out, replace a left spindle bearing if needed
replace / free one of the trans fans thats locked up
fluids
fuel
eval spare tire situation. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 13, 2016, 12:33:15 AM
race prep completed tonight thus far:

car washed
front axle wheel bearings and king pins tightened up
snapped right king pin adjuster, need to source a fine thread 3/4" bolt to fix
seized trans cooler fan replaced
found main radiator fan to be loose and flopping, close to failure.  replaced.
lube u joints
front bipass upper bolts changed for new


check coolant level
fuel
air pressures
source missing radio thumb screw
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 13, 2016, 08:39:31 AM
*bypass
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 13, 2016, 09:32:45 AM
https://www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-2-1-2-Alloy-Steel-Set-Screw-31KD95?s_pp=false&picUrl=//static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/31JX12_AS01?$smthumb$


2.5" long?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on July 13, 2016, 10:27:03 AM
2.5 is plenty long.
staying with the allen set screw style is much easier for adjustment, what I have to do with 2 same size hexes above each other is kinda annoying.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 13, 2016, 11:57:54 AM
well if it works out ill have a 5 pack to pick up Friday lunch time at granger and you can have 2 of them
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 13, 2016, 01:37:27 PM
side note, changes to my radiator shroud last go around with bolted in tabs and weld nuts, made changing a radiator fan a 20 minute job instead of a 5 hour job. 

winning. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2016, 08:51:13 AM
email this morning says granger has my 3/4" set screws ready for pickup.  grab at lunch, install at line Mt.  i welded a nut onto what snapped off, but left it so its mobile. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2016, 12:44:55 PM
king pin adjusters in hand


my lord the 20'syr old parts girls behind the Granger counter-  i gota will call more stuff there
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 18, 2016, 04:57:52 PM
king pin adjuster swapped no issues at line mt friday night.  2.5" is probably .5" longer than original, no big deal. 


shock notes-  much more compliant on little chop for a much better ride over all.  still harsh on mid to high range / high speed impacts.  Coil over gets warmer than bipass. 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 21, 2016, 07:59:27 AM
washed

needs an air clearner service.  way down on power responce.

RCV's are really getting BAD
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 16, 2016, 11:52:25 AM
car hasnt been serviced since KOH really


14 bolt tear down and spindle replacement
full heims check / replace
front end RCV issues
start looking at a 14 bolt 40 spline build
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 19, 2016, 11:25:28 AM
looking like 14bolt spindle replacement not as easy as i had imagined.  looks like guys are slugging on at  the tube.  that sounds silly. 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 13, 2016, 12:19:49 AM
took the porto ban to the hub and sacrificed to get to try and save the spindle.


success!  cut and ground about 1/2" of the spindle off and was able to remove spindle nut.   


hub replaced, rotor on right side, calipers and pads on both rear sides changed.  made a two bolt retainer clip to hold 14 bolt key way in on the trimmed down side.  all good. 

new brake line run, ready for bleed tomorrow and standard race prep for Saturday. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 14, 2016, 08:45:53 AM
race prepped and ready for Saturday minus fuel top off and bolt on rear fire extinguisher borrowed to bro
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 22, 2016, 08:38:46 AM
washed and flat changed
shredded BFG beads broken, wheel looks OK

needs leaky steering filter fixed for the weekend. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 23, 2016, 08:56:47 AM
2 good wheels and a 3rd rock ring freed from shreded BFG pile
steering leak fixed, found suction line pressure gage on steering not up to the task of ridding along.  removed and plugged.
window net removed and seat cleaned.

pulled hood and started looking at wilwood brake install, should be doable.  job for another day.    current brake booster might not have another race left in it before master rips off it. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 12, 2016, 09:57:51 AM
one trep mounted up, 3 KRTs dismounted.

cracked a KMC trying to straighten, boo.  might give it to one of you aluminum welder guys to fix.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 13, 2016, 11:36:05 PM
fueled

gona try to end up wheeling somewhere this weekend. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 17, 2016, 11:06:25 AM
no issues this weekend.

treps performed about what i expected :)  they still have air in them which was the goal of the weekend. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 24, 2016, 10:00:20 AM
RCVs getting really loud.
tore front end down for inspection last night.
4 or 5 pinnion chips so its going to get a new gear set tonight. 

spindle bearings hosed of course. 
RCV grease good and clean. 
King pins tightened up
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on October 24, 2016, 11:29:05 AM
that's a low pinion Chevy axle being run upside down, right? which leaves it driving on the coast side of the gears when going forward, or would it be drive side since it's always "in reverse"? I guess drive side?

just sanity checking myself and thinking about gears...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 24, 2016, 12:05:11 PM
same as yours but running backwards all the time on coast. 


this setup was 0 to -1 back lash and a welded nut before KOH.  one of the longest lasting thus far. 

i started to price out a new front end build.  going to do a 40 spline 14 bolt.  its going to be spendy.  boo. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 24, 2016, 02:09:08 PM
fresh drivetrain parts for trailer stock ordered.

front and rear gear sets
front and rear spare yokes
splindle hub bearings / seals
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on October 25, 2016, 08:23:54 AM
Have you considered to put in Dana 70 gears in it? Jana76
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on October 25, 2016, 08:27:13 AM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/axles-tires-wheels/946421-jana-76-tm-how-install-70s-your-60-a.html
Title: Re: 572
Post by: wnyjpgy on October 25, 2016, 09:00:25 AM
I'm going out on a limb.. But I would assume your thinking 14 bolt due to the 3rd pinion bearing to reduce any deflection that might be going on in your gear set?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 25, 2016, 09:38:06 AM
i have flogged the shit out of my rear gear set is more what im going on and its fine (runs backwards too)

The rear gear set in 572 was in 571 racing for 3 years, and now has been in 572 since new.  its broken 2 stock 14 bolt shafts, and 1 yukon chromo shaft, 3 rear drive shafts, and a transmission.    the thing has been zero maintance since new and still looks new lol 


I have looked into the Jana70 long ago.  dana70 parts are very expensive, custom bearings also.  it makes gear changes 5-600$ and spool costs are were crazy when i looked into it.


i plan to do a full 40 spline conversion and 14 bolt center chunk, salvaging my solid knuckles and 3/4 ton brake kit, PSC ram / steering tire rods / Artec arms.  The build will require new housing / truss, gear set, 40 spline spool, 40 spline Branik 300M shafts, CTMs, new Solid C's/kingpins, 40 spline hubs, 40 spline spindles and bearings, 40 spline drive flanges, 14bolt inner axle seals, 14bolt 1350 yoke. 

its gona hurt but i dont see any other solution to my gear set issues and RCV issues. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on October 25, 2016, 10:08:25 AM
Ok so be it! I just wondered and suggested maybe Jana 76 will get you by until you get to do the ultimate 14b front build.

Have you looked up "super king pin" Reid just released? Huge knuckles to run 05-up Ford D60 unit bearings and have more room for even bigger RCV joints (I think Rockwell sized) and the stub engages into the unit bearing directly so no drive slugs needed (similar to as dodge ball joint D60 unit bearings)

Also there's a good thread on which 14b housing will be best to use. I'll find a link to it shortly.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on October 25, 2016, 10:15:10 AM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/1887226-14-bolt-thick-casting-4.html

Go down to post #79

Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on October 25, 2016, 10:22:35 AM
Found it. Yes RCV Rockwell joint fits. Beef! ;D

Quote from: Reid Racing;35096906
We just received our first batch of inner Cs so Kevin Yoder came by today to pick up a set for KOH.  We stuffed his Rockwell RCV into the knuckle assembly to confirm fitment of the boot.  He's off to complete his front axle now.



http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/35096906-post109.html



Or 1550 u-joints can be used also (Briank make them)

Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on October 25, 2016, 11:01:05 AM
holy cow, that's huge!  8)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on October 25, 2016, 11:10:23 AM
More axle pron

CTM 1550 joints 60 degree steering

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 25, 2016, 11:13:00 AM
seems like an ity bitty joint and tiny ears for all that stub.


its ok im sure they did all their FEA work up front   ::)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on October 25, 2016, 11:32:20 AM
that stub's got to be like that to get rid of a drive slug or lockout hub, I'm guessing?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on October 25, 2016, 12:08:18 PM
that stub's got to be like that to get rid of a drive slug or lockout hub, I'm guessing?

Correct. Engages the hub directly.

Edit: and no more stub shaft bearings in the spindle to destroy.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 26, 2016, 12:01:59 AM
front axle buttoned up.  put a full tube of RCV grease in each side.   

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 30, 2016, 09:52:13 PM
rcvs were 50% queiter, and in a few trail hours i noticed most of the grease was pushed out and the sound the same now. 


found a huge fail on my part tonight.  when i changed out the hub to one of the ones i got from chris, i didnt notice he took the outer bearing snap ring out to swap to his new hubs.  outer bearing race slipped in 1/2" and no preload on the hub bearins.  caused seal to leak.  i almost left it.  shaft and rotor only holding wheel true.  shurly soon to failure. 

found snap ring in old cut up hub in scrap pile, new seal, cleaned and assembled. 

found a lot of link bolts loose tonight.

attempted to seal MC cover

lube job. 


Have two tires to break down, mount 2 treps this week, fluid check, tool bag check, fuel. 

plan to load Tuesday or Wednesday. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 01, 2016, 08:17:40 AM
two KMC/KRT's broke down, two spare treps mounted
Fluids checked and topped off.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on November 03, 2016, 12:56:32 PM
You running the smaller alternator? Why not the AD244 alternator? Big jump in amp output over the smaller one even when hot.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on November 03, 2016, 07:00:01 PM
http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/threads/232999-Whipple-Supercharger-4-8L-5-3L-6-0L-Vortec
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 02, 2017, 10:59:30 AM
got some lift time last night

#8 exhaust dead COLD-  looks like a new plug fixed it and running back on 8 again with some learning needed.
front output (rear 205) yoke replaced, drive shaft got a new ujoint and installed
front 35 spline drive slugs need replacing soon.  tons of slop in splines.  grabbed a slug from joes parts pile and fits 80% tighter.
front spindle nuts re adjusted
full grease job.



Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 03, 2017, 07:58:36 PM
added 4 quarts of oil   :o
severe blow by noted.
white, black, blue smoke on throtle rip
unplugged MAF and it also seems way happier on speed density

not sure blow by source but sounds good and def running on all 8 again. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 21, 2017, 09:04:42 PM
severe grinding on left side noted
motor running great but blowing hard smoke

lots of flogging this weekend and still functional/ 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on May 25, 2017, 09:48:16 AM
42" reds?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on May 25, 2017, 09:53:45 AM
42" reds would probably take care of that grinding noise.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on May 25, 2017, 10:23:23 AM
20"s will never happen so thats a no go
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 02, 2017, 11:02:51 AM
front diff inspection performed last night.
gear set in great shape.

Put the girdle cover on Bret traded me.  not sure i like it- i don't have a set of pass through sockets to properly tighten carrier cap nuts.  also seems like it will be a one time use once the front gets smashed by rocks and becomes un serviceable. 

brakes / hubs steering seems in good shape.  not sure what to occasional grinding noise is i was hearing. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on June 02, 2017, 11:06:37 AM
RCVs?  hahaha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 02, 2017, 11:12:23 AM
they sound HORRIBLE but thats not the sound im worried about.


probably should have done a complete hub tear down but didnt have time.  dont have spindle bearing parts on hand anyway. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on June 02, 2017, 11:30:50 AM
front diff inspection performed last night.
gear set in great shape.

Put the girdle cover on Bret traded me.  not sure i like it- i don't have a set of pass through sockets to properly tighten carrier cap nuts.  also seems like it will be a one time use once the front gets smashed by rocks and becomes un serviceable. 

brakes / hubs steering seems in good shape.  not sure what to occasional grinding noise is i was hearing.

You might find this helpful. Link to the girdle cover installation guide
http://www.jantz4x4.com/jantz.php?p=manual&pro=girdle&mid=jgi
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Install four non-locking ½ x13 nuts, 80 ft lbs. I made a ¾ socket with the back end hand ground like a spark plug socket drive to reach the nuts. You then drive this socket with another socket and torque wrench.
(http://www.jantz4x4.com/img/girdle/2.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on June 02, 2017, 11:31:57 AM
or just weld two deep sockets together to accomplish same thing?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on June 02, 2017, 11:33:30 AM
they sound HORRIBLE but thats not the sound im worried about.

You're not touching them because RCV will not warranty them until after they break completely?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 02, 2017, 01:35:39 PM
im sick of touching them and rebuilding them. 

they are too expensive to maintain, i have broken 5 shafts including a carrier damage.  the splines are now so warn i have about a 80 degree difference of travel tire to tire.

planning to just run them till catrostrophic failure then sell the bits with the other 4340 set of RCVs i have. 



Matts have ~500 miles on them and are starting to sound like mine.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 09, 2017, 01:45:02 AM
pulled out of trailer to hook up pumper and window net


found water pump dripping from shaft seal.  changed used spare from trailer.  leaking from back bolts.  ran to zone for a white box and changed that with success.  that was at 10:30.  Packed and prepped trailer, window net, pumper.  nothing else prepped meh. 


Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 11, 2017, 09:25:47 PM
didnt really feel like killing tires so i was taking it easy.  got wacked after i pulled over for a siren just after the first check point.

half mile later the carnage spread to a 14bolt yoke, rear shaft, air bumb, chassis damage, and gouges in my fuel cell enclosure.



swapped sway bar links to trackbar location after a 2" difference fit was eyeballed, drove the car out in 2wd to the road and back to the property. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 22, 2017, 12:04:29 AM
back in shape minus two leaking diffs, a cracked chassis near rear three link mount, and tool bags are a mess.


new rear shaft installed
sway bar links installed
rear 14 bolt yoke changed
lube job

broken shaft rebuilt and assembled as a good spare
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 22, 2017, 01:55:14 PM
Crack kills...


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 03, 2017, 12:59:03 AM
short side inner front blew on CV side.

shaft changed to 4130 set and leaky gurtle cover changed out. 

loaded for Rausch next weekend. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 25, 2017, 08:53:09 AM
http://store.stage8.com/p/xn-11rh-x-lock-direct-replacement-for-n-11-nut-on-40-spline-axles-right-hand-thread?pp=24
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 05, 2017, 10:03:14 PM
full front end tear down
fresh short side 300M inner warranty shaft swapped in
RCVs lubed
2 new inner axle seals
1 new spindle bearing
gears inspected and OK, new lube

brake master cyl cracks welded up and reassembled

picnic flat trep cleaned and re seated- appears no tire damage and hold air


needs fuel
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 19, 2017, 11:57:30 AM
needs a motor swap. 

picking up another 5.3 later today.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: KingtheZJ on September 19, 2017, 12:20:31 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170919/277b5a21a49bc33d6207f0c33b33a725.jpg)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 19, 2017, 10:23:28 PM
good deal maybe, but 2000 would be cast heads i think
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 19, 2017, 10:26:07 PM
took a gamble on a 2002 5.3 today.  got some extra parts with it that i can part out if its junk.  meh


stripped down and almost prepped for swap.  planned out how its going to happen.  should be more than enough room to slide back, lift, turn 90 degrees and pull motor out of top after most of it is stripped down in the car, fuel cell, exhaust, sway bar, and coolers removed.  rad and light bar should be find to stay.  dont think its going to be the night mare i thought it would be, should have new motor running saturday. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 20, 2017, 10:25:34 PM
almost started emptying fuel out of this guy tonight and then realized it didnt wash itself....


3 broken exhaust bolts extracted from heads, water pump faces cleaned up, coolant temp sensor hole taped to NPT. 


super excited to have all good exhaust holes for once on an LS motor! 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: GBR928 on September 21, 2017, 09:59:57 AM
Can come over tonight and assist.


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 22, 2017, 12:07:17 AM
pulled the old van motor tonight!  managed to twist and turn with only the addition of the light bar and oil filter removed past what i had planned.  no chassis cutting was necessary. 

some chassis work / inspection and should start on the new install tomorrow. hope to fire saturday!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 22, 2017, 10:25:49 PM
New motor fired, sounds good.  No knocks or tics, has good oil pressure and no apparent smoke with garage testing.  No blowby on dips tick.

Just a few odds to wrap up and lock the cell back down. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 22, 2017, 10:44:05 PM
total investment will be 14hrs.  probably about 6 hrs more than our front engine cars. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 22, 2017, 10:45:54 PM
i guess that includes some harness wire way fix, some exhaust wrap fix, and chassis fix near the 3 link that likes to crack
Title: Re: 572
Post by: luvmyxj on September 23, 2017, 09:13:06 AM
what are you doing with the old motor ?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on September 23, 2017, 03:53:56 PM
what are you doing with the old motor ?

I have a 5.3, PCM, wiring harness stashed in my storage unit...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 23, 2017, 09:49:46 PM
i tore it down tonight to take a peek

cylinder walls look mirror finish with no damage (cross hatches not visible)

I did find some pitting and damage on the 2 rear cam lobes and lifters

rotating the assembly, there is oil thats pushed up around the rings every rotation lol

John says the ring lands are probably cracked.  all pistons you can move in the bore laterally 1/32-1/16" i don't know if that's normal with floating rings. 




disassembling one of these things i have no idea how you could keep one clean with the intent of putting it back together with fresh parts.  everything is dirt covered even with continuous shop vac action as you go. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on September 24, 2017, 12:03:53 AM
I think you have to take it all the way down and clean every part before assembly. Trying to do something in the car? I even felt bad when I flipped my intake.

Interesting about the bore condition and oil intrusion. That seems like a lot of piston play but I think LS are known for piston slap when cold.


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 25, 2017, 09:38:43 AM
complete power wash round 2 completed with tins and seat pulled. 
rear bumper rebuilt
more cracked chassis tubes repaired
spare idler and tensioner pulleys mounted on car

failed twice at patching trep from race.  boo.  tiny center tred puncture, like a ran over a piece of rebar. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 20, 2018, 09:40:07 PM
got quick bolt check, lube, air filter cleaning, trans flush, fluids topped off and tool bags prepped today.  ATF shine for the party.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 13, 2018, 04:04:20 PM
suspected oil pump failure.

engine seized and locked up hard day 2 into hammers while returning home from shock tuning. 

boo. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 07, 2018, 09:10:07 PM
its very sad with the photo bucket thing when researching 14 bolt IFS  bah
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on March 07, 2018, 09:12:46 PM
Get a browser add on to your computer and they’ll show up just like should.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 07, 2018, 09:18:08 PM
o really they figured out how to hack around?

link for ie or chrome?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on March 07, 2018, 09:31:16 PM
Try this one
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/photobucket-hotlink-fix/kegnjbncdcliihbemealioapbifiaedg?hl=en
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2018, 07:57:25 PM
hot cam and associated parts ordered for new 5.3 build....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on March 15, 2018, 08:28:03 PM
rebuilding motors is for the birds.


never - ever - rebuild a motor

What’s the plan????  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: etk300ex on March 15, 2018, 09:08:14 PM
Lol


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2018, 09:32:51 PM
i know im already cursing myself.  not rebuilding just swapping a few parts.  making a $400 motor a 1400$ motor, could be worse....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on March 15, 2018, 09:46:08 PM
Yup. Could be making a 1250 motor a 2000 motor :-/


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on March 15, 2018, 10:15:35 PM
I love motors
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2018, 10:20:18 PM
i hate motors

i have about 6 at the shop id like at the bottom of a lake
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 17, 2018, 11:01:58 PM
extracted from trailer and pushed into shop, so it begins again. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 18, 2018, 06:55:27 PM
motor pulled
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 20, 2018, 10:10:30 PM
new motor fired on a stand, good cold idle oil pressure.  need to tack some mufflers on so i can hear any motor noise over open headers but looking good. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 22, 2018, 10:46:44 PM
fired with mufflers.  sounds good not tics or knocks cold idle 40psi

torn down and stripped for cam install Saturday. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 27, 2018, 12:23:56 AM
o my. 


she has a real car sound with the buggy exhaust   8)


needs about 20 minutes of work to drive out but in the car and fired. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 30, 2018, 01:28:17 AM
wide ban O2 and log able AFR gage installed for HP tuners
OBD2 port added to the car
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 02, 2018, 08:56:03 PM
300M shafts put back in after last sand hallow breakage
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 09, 2018, 03:06:39 PM
loaded in trailer yesterday

http://www.lt1swap.com/lsx_tach.htm

need to get my tach working for next tune session
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on April 09, 2018, 03:55:41 PM
good enough for trails?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 09, 2018, 03:59:21 PM
ya it should be ok to do some wheelin
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on April 09, 2018, 08:56:24 PM
You have Torque, you have dongle. What more do you need?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 03, 2018, 11:04:56 PM
moved this thing today.  i should do something with it.  bah. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on June 04, 2018, 01:17:03 PM
F&F 6/22-23?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 04, 2018, 01:20:24 PM
That's the next brolite race! Double Header at Rolling W!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2018, 02:47:10 PM
F&F 6/22-23?

sorry no interest in swamp moss wheeling still
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M on June 04, 2018, 03:08:20 PM
moved this thing today.  i should do something with it.  bah.

Can I go pick it up and play around in it?  ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 04, 2018, 03:51:59 PM
everything is for sale.  not much for rent


i must be getting old.  more excited about the 49 completion and getting ready to work on the Ford.  should have planned better for winter projects though lol  June already is crazy. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Harrison on June 04, 2018, 10:26:57 PM
F&F 6/22-23?

sorry no interest in swamp moss wheeling still

I took you on the wrong trails at the wrong time of year. I’ll make it up to you if you ever come back :)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 20, 2018, 09:01:54 AM
ordered this guy

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2300-2600-high-stall-4L60E-4L65E-300mm-Torque-Converter-1998-up-TMBX-TLBX-VJCX-/253683200166?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10 

2300-2600 higher stall converter
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 28, 2018, 10:12:42 PM
pulled in tonight, trans removal prep started. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 29, 2018, 11:52:34 PM
8 hrs later i now have a boat anchor stall converter instead of 2600rpm as advertised.  fucking junk.  FUCK


made a snap / pop first time i shifted it into gear, no power in any gear.  F me
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 30, 2018, 05:50:19 PM
Fuuuuuck!


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on June 30, 2018, 05:51:04 PM
Could be front pump drive again? Or junk converter? I’d check super closely... :(


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Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 30, 2018, 06:38:25 PM
i broke the pump installing the new TC. 

pulled everything out again this afternoon.  need to source a new pump or replace pump rotor in this unit
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 02, 2018, 07:47:31 PM
freshly rebuilt trans pump assembly sourced locally for 75$ with core exchange

re assembled and fully functional.

Massive improvement with stall increase from stock ~1500 to 2600 now. 

doesnt push through brakes and crawls the loading dock with ease again. 

lets go wheeling / racing. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: rejeep on July 02, 2018, 09:00:04 PM
Who rebuilt?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on July 02, 2018, 09:05:06 PM
my LS guy recommended Bart in Palmyra, he runs a small auto repair shop but does a ton of transmission build stuff.  was very knowledgeable and had everything i needed, gaskets ect. 

Bart
Palmyra Auto Repair
505 W Main St # 4, Palmyra, NY 14522
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 08, 2018, 08:58:47 PM
after basically loosing a season of racing and wreck wheeling im going to source a stock 5.3 block and R&R.  i dont have the patience, funds, or expertise to tune a big cam 5.3 for ofroad use.  i give in.  sounds cool but just isnt cutting it for practicability. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on November 08, 2018, 10:16:12 PM
Day on dyno with experienced tuner would fix.

My 2c

Mine won’t crawl either now. Won’t spin the tires in high range. Almost couldn’t drive up hills with rocks in high with the stock converter.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 09, 2018, 08:59:58 AM
i could see wasting alot of dyno hours trying to explain our usage and problems.  mine will do dyno pulls all day long.  its the low end dynamic issues- not really going to experience that on a dyno. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on November 09, 2018, 09:37:18 AM
Not all dyno use is top power runs. But I’ve not actually worked on tuning. Put foot to the floor
Anywhere under 1900rpm and my problem is 110% repeatable
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on November 09, 2018, 10:29:20 AM
hot cam and associated parts ordered for new 5.3 build....

What “hot cam” is it? (I’m curious and know very little on cam stuff)
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on November 09, 2018, 11:18:46 AM
585 lift

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 15, 2019, 06:31:13 PM
ah the sigh. 


hoping to pick up another doner motor tonight.

sending the cam motor- F that thing.  would like to wheel this summer. 


maybe it needs to go into a hot rod haha
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 19, 2019, 02:35:51 PM
flat tire, dead dead battery and fuel cell pickup is plugged or froze solid. 


in the shop. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on January 19, 2019, 04:49:02 PM
  i was just thinking its too hot in here   

looks like you got another 5.3
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 19, 2019, 05:02:02 PM
my cheap ass didnt get my propane tank filled with unknown loss of my shop this spring.  looking at a 150$ 7500watt 240 volt heater since i dont pay for electric.....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on January 20, 2019, 02:20:45 PM
Get a 100 lb propane tank? That way you fill it as needed?
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 26, 2019, 02:31:40 PM
motor pulled.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 26, 2019, 08:57:43 PM
new to it motor installed. 

guess i fucked that up.  idle wont come down from 1800 with a stock tune PCM, no indication of manifold leak anywhere.


sounds like somethings loose in motor also and banging / tapping.  bah. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: gif on January 26, 2019, 10:30:16 PM
that sucks...
Title: Re: 572
Post by: TrailTamer on January 27, 2019, 02:51:13 PM
That’s no good.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 27, 2019, 06:34:00 PM
only 60 lbs compression in #4 and #8
pulled the head and found a hand full of broken burnt plastic bits.  both cylinders also had smashed bent spark plugs that im 90% sure were fine when i put them in.   cylinder walls look surprisingly ok on that side.  John says maybe mice got in the intake and chewed it up, debree got in and bent some valves. 

might be a candidate for a freshen up and confirm that i hate building motors once more fore the cost of a head gasket, bolts, and a head.  too bad i scrapped 6 of these heads 2 months ago.  FML 

note to self!  add real mufflers and a radiator to start cart for a good functional check.  10hrs labor lost so far bah! 



motor pulled again, ran over to johns- he had a 5.3 on his start cart ready to go and fired up for me.  150lbs on all holes.  300$ and sitting prepped in my shop ready to go back in tomorrow.  could have killed my self tonight and got it in but decided not to.  noticed i may have damaged transmission lines / fittings during this process, so i am going to tend to that before there is a motor in the way of easy trans pull.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on January 29, 2019, 10:24:39 PM
the gnomes did not put a motor in this thing yet.  bah. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 02, 2019, 09:32:35 PM
all back together and good minus a gallon of water and side tins. 

5th 5.3 sounds good and tight first fire. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 15, 2019, 08:53:07 PM
lots of parts swapping and aggravation tonight.

confirmed bad IACV driver in PCM. 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on February 16, 2019, 08:58:21 PM
That’s whack. Wonder how that fried.

I haven’t sold my spare pcms but you probably have spares too. Not unlocked/tuned.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 17, 2019, 02:19:41 PM
so some time spent with John this week


he burned me an "emissions pass" PCM  (any 99' PCM is free for him to burn with his batch liscence




i kinda wana build a street U4 now lol.  do home built, it would pass no issues. F NY
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on February 17, 2019, 02:20:27 PM
also, unit ready to wheel.  all issues resolved and tins put back on. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2019, 09:08:40 AM
short side RCV gave up yesterday, boo. 

new motor hot oil pressure is no good. 

otherwise had some good laps on the short course and fun at the picnic
Title: Re: 572
Post by: mr.mindless on August 18, 2019, 12:42:48 PM
Seems like it needs 40 $pline :(
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 27, 2019, 09:07:56 PM
ready for trail status. 

outer clip on short side decided to not do its job, shaft moved into spool, sheared last 1/4" of shaft after moving an  1" inward. 

stupid failure. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on September 27, 2019, 09:12:05 PM
tried to change 2 shot rod ends on steering and gave up.  shit is tight.  spent more time than what it would have taken to Lathe out new tie rods.  F it, let it be there. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 22, 2019, 08:21:20 PM
this hawg took 27 gallons at the pump today.

Man i wish i could have plates on this.  so run to rip down the road to the neighbor fuel station dirty
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 11, 2020, 09:50:00 PM
man had to go to page three to excavate this thread.


aired up some tires tonight and hawged a few laps around the property tonight at speed. 

planned rear diff inspection and fix a slow leaking cover- found 3rd pinion bearing support in the 14 bolt smooshed over to the side.  all else looks good preload wise and gearset wise in the diff. 

front has a broken diff cover bolt so that got pulled also, all looks well in the front.  will get an 1/8 turn on the king pin preload and new gear oil.  found some sweet cracks just about all the way around the truss near 3link loading.  will get a grind and weld and 2 small triangles added. 

lube and fuel and good to go.

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 11, 2020, 10:23:25 PM
snagging two 50$ 14 bolts tomorrow, because you can never have too many 14 bolts. 


23$ bearing on amazon is 5 days away meh
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M on August 12, 2020, 09:42:11 AM
572 relieved from tractor duties now?   ;D
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 12, 2020, 10:16:02 AM
multi use machine, but my cub has been doing great with tractor duties
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 13, 2020, 10:20:28 PM
meh, got impatient and need this pile off my lift-  picked up two doner 14 bolts yesterday and harvested the bearing i needed that amazon says now will be delivered Monday instead of saturday.  should have just had one sent from dennys in buffalo for 10$ less and probably 22hr fedex.  meh


both diffs serviced. found broken hub bolts.

all heims on the car are loose wreck status.  added some ATF to steering.  need to scrounge though my broken RCV pile and see what spares i can make and what to send back. 

time to un winterize the trailer....
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on October 24, 2020, 05:01:11 PM
had two fuel line failures last wheeling trip, and another when it was parked in trailer. i guess rubber thats 8 years old gave up.

replaced all fuel lines in system.   loaded in trailer for Hallowheeling.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 05, 2021, 07:29:11 PM
2 low rear tires and fired right up.  pulled in the shop.  had some good halloween candy still in the side pockets
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 11, 2021, 05:14:53 PM
another 14bolt shaft gave up this morning, and then shortly after took out the spindle, making it look like a rear stear car.

got tow trucked from CV hill climb back to my trailer. 

short trip!

bah!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 11, 2021, 10:10:10 PM
well with what i have and what i have to work with, im thinking im going to try and slug in a new tube/spindle.  the 14bolt i have sitting here complete spare must be newer, both shafts are different lengths. 


ton of work either way, but i think ill strip off the right tower, shock, link, track bar mounts, section in a new tube and burn it all back together. 

 should be a good days work tomorrow. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 12, 2021, 02:24:07 PM
found not only shafts and hubs different, but spindles are different and its not going to work.

So swap entire axle brackerty and worry about getting brake brackets to work later, or find and 87 and back 14 bolt to steel a tube from. 

nothing listed local.  one 2 hours away that still needs to be cut from a truck.  bah
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 12, 2021, 09:52:20 PM
JJ had a housing and I ran out and grabbed for 100$ credit on bill due for brolite gear work :)

same housing, but in the end decided to slug on just a spindle.  hard part done,  just need 4 tabs back on and reassemble. 

Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 12, 2021, 09:55:30 PM
what could possibly go wrong
Title: Re: 572
Post by: Wingman on August 12, 2021, 10:31:19 PM
Never considered a “Z” cut on a tube. Smart!
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 12, 2021, 10:48:16 PM
ya figured anything i could do to make this stronger should be done.  the slug is thin wall to not block oil to the hub and not really structural more for alignment.  i sectioned it in the middle there also because the tower for the track bar and bump pad straddles that area and will add a ton of structure. 

hopefully will be a non issue and be good for years more of service. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on August 13, 2021, 05:41:22 PM
finished this up and back to used up race car status

bah.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 13, 2022, 02:51:45 PM
winter flat aird up

inspected on on lift.

looks in good shape other than a flat bump can and a couple loose heims up front.  should be summer ready if needed.
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on June 30, 2022, 01:07:43 PM
 needs fuel and a lift day after a couple wheeling trips. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 13, 2023, 05:06:00 PM
cracked/leaking radiator changed out today.  had to mod chassis for removal.  it hadnt been out since original fabrication. 

new colant
new oil / filter

have a leaking 14bolt hub thats going to need a speedy sleve. 
more fluids and general maintenance on the list this week. 

maybe some fresh tins if i get out to the hood this week for AL


Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on March 31, 2023, 06:19:58 PM
finished up on board air install today with a york 210.

works pretty good.  seems to be holding pressure fine, but i have a complete regasket kit if needed.


i had to dissasemble the entire york and soak it / break it free.  it was seized solid.

also swapped on a new cirp style clutch.  uses factory truck AC belt listing. 
Title: Re: 572
Post by: M4wdFab on April 02, 2023, 04:54:27 PM
new air hose and install finished.