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Projects place => Tech => Topic started by: Harrison on February 10, 2021, 09:19:13 AM

Title: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: Harrison on February 10, 2021, 09:19:13 AM: Grabbed a set of 37" Baja T/As on 12 bolt H1s for $150 to throw on my Jeep once my 39s are on my buggy. No inserts though.

I know there is a lot of H1 knowledge in this crowd from ~10 years ago...

What were people using for inserts? What size PVC? Where did you get it? What modifications, if any, did the PVC need to work correctly? Is the width cut anything more than measuring the assembled wheel and subtracting both bead thicknesses?

There is a $100 set of stock rubber runflats locally I am tempted to grab but am reading not all tire and wheel combos are interchangeable.
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: mr.mindless on February 10, 2021, 09:51:43 AM: magnesium came with mine and eventually got cut down. I never made drain pipe ones.
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: mr.mindless on February 10, 2021, 09:54:50 AM: I think you only run into issues with thickness of the stock ones when going to something with really thick sidewalls like a bogger or tsl

the rubbers are a total cunt to get into and out of a tire, all second/thirdhand.the bigger the tire the easier I'm sure but you may end up wanting to cut those down anyway. but for $100, maybe that's worth it.
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: Harrison on February 10, 2021, 10:27:36 AM: Trailworthy sells ready to go PVC inserts for $70ea and charges $100 for shipping. Definitely the easiest option, but I'm not ready to spend $400 on this without some more research I don't think.
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: M4wdFab on February 10, 2021, 10:37:44 AM: SD17 is the sewer pipe size you want to cut them out of

cutting the mag ones down is also fine, just take not of where the chips go, because mag dust goes up in flames very easy

the rubber ones can be cut down east also if left outside in frezzing temps and a chain saw will buzz right through them

personally the mag ones were the least hassle to install and mot reliable for me.
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: M4wdFab on February 10, 2021, 10:43:43 AM: troy and i made a jig with a couple wheels and a circ saw to cut the sewer pipe. dont remember the dimention we set on. you can also cut an interlock feature so they collapse to install with a plate and bolts to hold them in. there might be pics somewhere on this form
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: Harrison on February 10, 2021, 12:06:29 PM: Looking around a little more, it seems not difficult to cut out excess circumference from a larger size of PVC and make it work. Hopefully DJ has something kicking around...

https://www.pirate4x4.com/threads/pvc-beadlock-inserts-hummvee-wheels.537679/
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: Harrison on February 21, 2021, 09:41:24 PM: Gettin it done! Enjoying the 2006 pirate reads on how to do it.

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Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: Harrison on February 26, 2021, 08:06:37 PM: Done. Let me know if anyone sees any 16.5â€ 40â€+ tires on the cheap...

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Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: mr.mindless on February 26, 2021, 10:17:36 PM: Is this where one of us points out that 16.5s really are 10+ years on dead?

Lol

Nice work
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: Harrison on February 26, 2021, 10:37:01 PM: Quote from: mr.mindless on February 26, 2021, 10:17:36 PM
Is this where one of us points out that 16.5s really are 10+ years on dead?

Lol

Nice work

16.5s are dead. But. Reds donâ€™t work 3 months out of the year. Big dumb cheap Interco whatevers at low psi will do what I need.
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: etk300ex on February 27, 2021, 07:16:50 AM: Nice!

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Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: etk300ex on February 27, 2021, 07:16:50 AM: Nice!

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Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: mr.mindless on February 27, 2021, 08:43:54 AM: And big dumb intercos can be found from 15 years ago :)
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: M4wdFab on February 27, 2021, 10:01:45 AM: someone sounds a little butt hurt that the XJ has def beat the dakota in potato chip status ;D
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: mr.mindless on February 27, 2021, 11:40:54 AM: Nah, more proud of him than that. Itâ€™s gone much further in accomplishments too.

More sad that the super cool h1 is hard to get rubber for these days.

My 93 Chevy plow truck has 16.5s that at least look original - had to be one of the last vehicles to come with if they really are
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: Harrison on February 28, 2021, 07:49:40 PM: Dakota was and is inspiration for the condition of my XJ. Keep it going and get it done.

Clapped out TSLs are perfect for this thing and for what the reds donâ€™t do.
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: Callelle on March 02, 2021, 03:50:49 PM: Quote from: Harrison on February 28, 2021, 07:49:40 PM
Dakota was and is inspiration for the condition of my XJ.

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Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: M4wdFab on March 02, 2021, 04:16:05 PM: I just laughed so hard
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: mr.mindless on March 02, 2021, 09:44:52 PM: Hahaha

that truck got so much worse than I have at hand in my mind. Wow
Title: Re: H1 Insert Tech
Post by: Harrison on March 02, 2021, 10:16:51 PM: I remember when this was originally posted on FB Ryan commented â€œlooking at what not to do?â€