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Title: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: M4wdFab on February 13, 2020, 12:19:19 PM: Looks like i have the 56" table Beaver VBRP with R8 head

started doing some reaserch, looks like a full machine manual can be had for 43$

and some other info:

http://www.lathes.co.uk/beaver/
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: M4wdFab on February 13, 2020, 10:36:33 PM: moved to its home. heavy girl!

learned how to rotate the head. under stand more of the power quil knobs after talking to machine shop guy at work today.
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: wnyjpgy on February 14, 2020, 07:25:54 AM: Congrats.. the Bridgeport I bought recently is r8 as well which is super common..

You you have power feed on your table? I unfortunately don't, but I do have a digital read out... And I can feed my quill if needed..

Did you get any tooling?
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: M4wdFab on February 14, 2020, 09:22:16 AM: power X and power Quil. also set up for fluid pump.

no tooling with it, but i have a box full of R8 collets, a drawer of new end mills and some face boring tools along with a Kurt vice after this weeks delphi auction. extra tall mill vice jaws and mill stops / some other things i dont know yet what they are. got a sweet pad to put in front of it too!
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: M4wdFab on February 14, 2020, 10:00:47 AM: probably end up getting something like this from amazon for quick change stuff. but not like i need to be in a hurry i guess. i have plenty to get started now.

https://www.toolots.com/bodee-16pcs-full-grip-collet-chuck-sets-oz25-collet-sets-r8-shank.html?cid=8703721851&gclid=CjwKCAiAp5nyBRABEiwApTwjXh83h4J6BcPPRKdBp2TBQKtlg1aLB6EXOHDvfByfet9wQ3N06U8I6xoC_qcQAvD_BwE
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: M4wdFab on February 15, 2020, 05:53:10 PM: powered up and functional

made a new had wheel for the top of the machine that was broken

replaced two missing knobs

filled the head with hydraulic fluid.

havent found anything broken yet.
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: M4wdFab on February 15, 2020, 08:48:36 PM: kitchen hauler HDPE still giving back
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: M4wdFab on February 19, 2020, 01:17:49 PM: not that i really need it, but looks like this VFD would work nicely to eliminate the need for belt changing

https://www.amazon.com/Single-Variable-Control-Frequency-Converter/dp/B07GB2S9X2/ref=pd_cp_60_2/143-0657463-5526306?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07GB2S9X2&pd_rd_r=5fb48ef1-e140-4856-b251-71a41eb33733&pd_rd_w=GoIZx&pd_rd_wg=jELkZ&pf_rd_p=e44de6bb-cc27-4696-9c22-3a1bddefabbd&pf_rd_r=JQBNXRSQTF687MMDAF34&psc=1&refRID=JQBNXRSQTF687MMDAF34
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: gif on February 19, 2020, 02:14:36 PM: thats what i did on my mill. then you can use a simple controller for speed settings and standard industrial switches for stop/start/e-stop/ ect....
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: M4wdFab on February 19, 2020, 02:29:11 PM: i guess i didnt know the VFD also makes the 3 phase power change. that would have been better in my old shop instead of the static converter for just the lathe. now that i have the need for more power, and 440, and multiple machines im still happy with what i did, but adding a VFD for just the mill might be a good upgrade for the cost later.
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: gif on February 19, 2020, 03:06:16 PM: i would consider it for any application where the machine requires the changing of belt position to change speed.
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: M4wdFab on February 19, 2020, 09:34:42 PM: so what "belt position" do you run the mill in? high gear i assume? does that hurt the power at low RPM if you really want to hawg on something? my mill has a high and low mechanical gear, so i guess it would be ok though with a VFD and leave it in high belt position for full RPM range, but have a mechanical low gear for grunt work when needed.
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: M4wdFab on February 19, 2020, 09:35:53 PM: my mill is super easy 2sec belt change with a lever and i like it in low gear for power threading links... hmm.
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: gif on February 19, 2020, 11:11:30 PM: i selected the middle range, its probably 1:1

my mill also has a hi/lo gear box selector i am almost always (99%) in the low gear box setting.

you can stop over sometime to see what you think... i wouldn't change a thing
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: M4wdFab on February 20, 2020, 07:15:56 AM: Quote from: M4wdFab on February 19, 2020, 09:35:53 PM
my mill is super easy 2sec belt change with a lever and i like it in low gear for power threading links... hmm.

opps i mean my lathe is the quick belt change.

looks like the mill is set to middle belt but more involved to change.
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: etk300ex on February 20, 2020, 08:31:04 AM: A 3 phase VFD will work with a single phase input as it converts AC-DC-AC, but you have to derate it appropriately. Usually 1 or 2 standard sizes larger. There's a calculation if you ever want it. They can't convert voltage though FYI.
Title: Re: Beaver VBRP- Miller time.
Post by: M4wdFab on February 23, 2020, 09:19:05 PM: i just look at the amps out rating..

so last week i wanted to get my vice on so i just used my 4' bar level and some straight edges to the bed groves.

today i finally took a dial indicator in the head to the vice jaws.... didn't even move a hair over a 6" jaw with an indicator in .0001". No adjustments made!

checked tram on head both ways and is closer than i could ever get it anyway. ready to make chips.