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Title: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 10, 2019, 03:04:15 PM
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Asking $1750 in Brattleboro VT. Has some rust and a driver window issue, air suspension is all freshly re-bagged and air suspension is fully happy, daily driver status.

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Asking $2000 in Greece NY, finally got back to me after a couple days. Can look at after 7p, but I've got flashlights.

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Manual swap is available and done relatively often, $1200 in parts probably plus shipping. Automatics have torque converter issues, and almost all were sold as autos.
Inspiration and semi-plan. An updated and nicer Eagle. And 250hp stock from a twin turbo 2.7 v6 that's probably a maintenance nightmare.
more here http://mike.tepidcola.com/images/allroad/inspiration/

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Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 10, 2019, 03:09:41 PM
lift kit credit to this post https://forums.quattroworld.com/allroad/msgs/266318.phtml
photos all broken in the post, I rehosted them. they are still online now but I don't want to lose them.
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I've been working on an 2" lift kit for the allroad, and after several months of testing, here it is
Posted by: silva (1473) on 2017-11-05 10:51:38
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After seeing Nogaro Nitwit's allroad with the BFGoodrich KO2 tires, I really wanted to do something similar. Having learned that he had some issues with the tires rubbing inside the wheel wells, I decided to lay under the car for a while and see if a light bulb would go on. I think it may have!

What you see in the photos below is level 1 at where level 2 used to be, and then each subsequent level being higher. You can also see that there's a 6" difference in height at level 4 compared to an allroad at level 1. There's a minimum of 11" of ground clearance (under the belly pan) at level 4 while most of the rest of the car has 14" of ground clearance. It's silly, really, but it works well. Another benefit of this is that even with the air suspension fully deflated, the over-sized tires do not rub in the fender liners (untested at full steering angles).

This was achieved by installing some 1" delrin body spacers between the front and rear strut mounting plates and the body. I designed and had them CNC-machined. A 1" spacer on the strut has lowered the location of the bump stop approximately 2". This will put the minimum height (fender to ground) at approximately 26.5", which is about the same as the stock allroad tire diameter. With the BFG 215/70/16 there is no rubbing with the suspension fully deflated.

The vertical connecting links between the suspension and the height sensors have all been lengthened by 20mm. This allows the Level Control Module (LCM) to work within its designed operating parameters. I initially tried to program the LCM so that level 2 would be 35mm higher than level 1 (making level 1 equal to previous level 2) but the LCM does not accept values so far out of its programmable range.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: Harrison on October 10, 2019, 07:18:21 PM
Intended use?
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 10, 2019, 08:46:16 PM
Daily, exploring, winter poker runs, maybe green trails if I’m bored some weekend and don’t wanna bring out the big toys.

Overlanding with a sweet $4500 rooftop tent since they apparently cost what three of my typical cars cost.

Wintertime snow based idiocy in general.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on October 10, 2019, 08:54:15 PM
with your commute i dont see how a 400 XJ wouldnt fit all requirements and not need a rooftop tent. 

hope you find something useful.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 10, 2019, 10:03:24 PM
Zero interest in ratty XJ dailies. They just don’t turn my crank. WJs... (I should scrap that...)

The tent is mostly a joke. I had the thought and then died at the price.

Dog dictates some types of flexibility on things for another 5-7years though. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: etk300ex on October 11, 2019, 11:10:22 AM
Sell all your shit and get a new bike!
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 11, 2019, 11:27:20 AM
Wish I didn’t think bikes were dumb now. True fact. But I kinda do.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: etk300ex on October 11, 2019, 11:51:37 AM
 :o
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 11, 2019, 12:41:05 PM
Biking to work in all weather ruined me. Then I got fatter. Pure coincidence I’m certain. Which also ruined me.

Maybe next year. [in perpetuity]
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M on October 11, 2019, 01:17:54 PM
Mike, you're the perfect candidate for an ebike. 
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: rejeep on October 11, 2019, 02:53:12 PM
WJs... (I should scrap that...)

ehh
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: TrailTamer on October 11, 2019, 03:09:11 PM
with your commute i dont see how a 400 XJ wouldnt fit all requirements and not need a rooftop tent. 

I second this.

Ask M to find you a clean southern unit.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M on October 11, 2019, 03:54:27 PM
with your commute i dont see how a 400 XJ wouldnt fit all requirements and not need a rooftop tent. 

I second this.

Ask M to find you a clean southern unit.

I did, and it got sold lightning quick.   https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/455032872027418/?ref=messenger_share


edit: oh, you mean XJs.   Good clean rust free XJs examples in the south go for $4k-$5k.  They're like gold down here.    I noticed they're way cheaper up north because of rust.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 11, 2019, 10:42:45 PM
Checked out the silver $2k car tonight. Drove it. Has some electrical issues, and is no longer on air. Was spring-swapped. otherwise very good.

Hvac controls and function were flickering, and known and confirmed bad wire to oil pressure sensor. Sensor and pump swapped. Has some oils leaks from pan gasket issue and valve cover gaskets are needed. Shifter brake-park interlock is non-op and needs a screwdriver to go into gear.

Could be patched into Wonder status in a couple hours with a mechanical oil gauge + hardwired sensor and some shifter parts broken off. Oil leaks aren’t bad enough to preclude driving. Just to preclude parking in the exact same spot all the time.



I’m loving the idea of resurrecting the $600 manual trans unit near Albany.  That’s not above i don’t think. After looking one over in person I’m near certain the engine has to come out to do a head. There’s great front access to do timing belts and accessories but side access is retarded tight. Engine bay is packed.
The autos seem to fail at about the age the one I looked at is, ~150k. The mileage most of these have reached...


I think I need to clean out the driveway of VWs and have them both. Because I’m damaged in the head and fixated on a new shiny object. Drive silver through the winter and send it in months after I fix up maroon.

Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: etk300ex on October 12, 2019, 09:47:12 AM
oh my
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 13, 2019, 11:06:24 PM
idiocy may have reached next level thanks to a spotting by Mr. Turan. Talking to a seller tomorrow morning and will need to make sure Sarah can dogsit if things go well
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M on October 14, 2019, 10:03:03 AM
idiocy may have reached next level thanks to a spotting by Mr. Turan. Talking to a seller tomorrow morning and will need to make sure Sarah can dogsit if things go well

deets?
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 14, 2019, 11:33:47 PM
Cat’s out of the bag on fb

Flying to SLC and driving this home on Monday.

Gonna get shuttled around Salt Lake by a monster jam tech I haven’t seen since I quit, and hopefully catch some friends around Denver on the way back. Hoping to hear from Steph and JT. Might need to get JTs digits from Erik. Might stop in Moab then take my time through Colorado, and hustle back from there.

It’s recently on coilovers instead of air springs and the rears aren’t adjusted to proper height. It apparently needs rear tires too. Just had some suspension work incl alignment done. Not sure why one would align a multi-link car at not its final ride height, but who knows. Getting confirmation on tire size tomorrow and I’ll see how the craigslist tire population is out there. Would rather not buy 4 new of what I want there then cook them on bad alignment.



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Title: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 14, 2019, 11:36:08 PM
Expectations:
Massive oil leak, doesn’t run right, suspension is falling out of the car.

Likely won’t be worse than that. And it really should be better than that. It does have typical oil leaks, and the bad rear tires. I’d bet they’re original tires and it was driven around with rear bags blown and alignment AFU.

I’ve got photos of paperwork and ID. Guy seemed totally legit on the phone. He hasn’t had it long. Decided to keep sticking money into his 7.3 ford and race quads instead of fixing up a wannabe rally car to get to the shooting range in style.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: etk300ex on October 15, 2019, 08:18:00 AM
you're crazy!
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: Wingman on October 15, 2019, 08:29:32 AM
^^^ this.  :D
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 15, 2019, 09:41:31 AM
Correct.
But Eagle set a precident for this being a good idea. and this is its spiritual successor.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: etk300ex on October 15, 2019, 10:17:46 AM
But Eagle set a precident for this being a good idea.

by who?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on October 15, 2019, 10:46:48 AM
spend 1200 to pick up a 2000$ car?  oof. 
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: Nick on October 15, 2019, 11:52:32 AM
Your neighbors will be excited to see the quality of car has stepped up into the 2000s and a fancy Audi
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: cracker on October 15, 2019, 12:02:11 PM
But Eagle set a precident for this being a good idea.

by who?  ;D ;D ;D

hmm.. Eagle could have been kept running with duct tape and shoelaces to make it home.. an Audi.. probably not so much... hopefully it is not too much of an adventure, but we will all be here waiting for updates!
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 15, 2019, 12:30:51 PM
spend 1200 to pick up a 2000$ car?  oof. 
You're about 2x on expectation there.
Hopefully there won't be a tow bill to make you right. I think flight was $220 or so, expecting 20mpg and $3/gal for 2000 miles.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: etk300ex on October 15, 2019, 01:06:57 PM
I do like an eagle to be honest
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: Wingman on October 15, 2019, 01:23:04 PM
The Eagle had some classic/historic appeal
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: wnyjpgy on October 15, 2019, 02:56:38 PM
with all of your VW dealings I'm sure you have the Vag Com software on a laptop? Or a really good scan tool?
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 15, 2019, 04:03:03 PM
vag-com, yup.
my ram had me wishing I had something more, then I priced a DRB3 and went back to swapping parts to diagnose.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: wnyjpgy on October 16, 2019, 09:45:51 AM
I hear you..

This is what I have, it's older, and the windows boot up is slow, but its been great, updated to model year 18 (last upgrade) and has all of the European software on it as well.

https://www.snapon.com/diagnostics/us/VERDICT

I think I gave $800, still in the case with all of the accessories and manuals.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 16, 2019, 06:17:57 PM
Erik and Stef let me know why I was having no craigslist luck on tires (car needs a pair if I didn’t mention).
Local news outlet OWNS classifies there. KSL is it.


245/40r18 delinte d7 https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/57813683
130 mounted balanced and out the door for a pair. Fuck that stupid tire size but i know it fits as the car sits.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: Ryan on October 16, 2019, 08:36:26 PM
Facebook marketplace has pretty much taken over everything, Offerup gets some stuff, Craigslist is dead. KSL is more Northern Utah than down here.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 17, 2019, 12:04:25 AM
Tons on KSL up in SLC.

I hate fbm. But you’re right. People have no taste.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M on October 17, 2019, 03:58:22 PM
130 mounted balanced and out the door for a pair. Fuck that stupid tire size but i know it fits as the car sits.


Isn't the allroad AWD?   Shouldnt tire size be symmetrical on all 4?
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 17, 2019, 07:52:17 PM
As compared to the difference between its current bald rears and good fronts.

Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M on October 18, 2019, 12:06:03 PM
ah, didnt realize rears were bald.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 20, 2019, 09:45:16 PM
Locked and loaded
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on October 21, 2019, 03:19:59 PM
i just realized Allroad is the name of the car


i just thought you meant you accepted all roads lead to idiocy via MMTR lol 
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: TrailTamer on October 21, 2019, 06:06:32 PM
i just realized Allroad is the name of the car


i just thought you meant you accepted all roads lead to idiocy via MMTR lol

Same here
Title: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 22, 2019, 12:19:32 AM
Hahahahahahahaaaaaa

True.

Bunked out in JT’s trailer. Was a project to swap stock wheels on and that kept me in town*. Capt Rob’s shop to the rescue.

I’m getting rear toe adjusted first thing tomorrow before I leave SLC. I’ll regret it if I don’t from handling/ stability, and I don’t know if tires would make it 2500 miles home without showing cord.

Oil leaks will be dealt with swiftly before dd status. It stinks at idle rest.
It’s also likely gonna get a tune once it’s fully healthy and all basics are attended to. I expect more from 250hp awd 6sp.

Dumpy butt look is even more severe with slightly smaller rolling stock. I don’t know what struts were swapped on but it’s dumb. One could say: idiotic.

*the 18s on it are larger center bore than stock, and it has ~20mm spacers on it which means over length lug bolts. Had to get eccentric ring off spacer to run spacer with stock wheel, or find/ cut shorter lug bolts.
I should have probably put a pair of tires on the rear on the existing wheels and saved the room and weight of hauling 4 tires cross country. Too late now and I didn’t realize the quick fix wasn’t gonna be quick until it was too late.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 22, 2019, 10:54:27 AM
One adjuster seized. Hopefull for great improvement. Hitting the road for Moab so I’ll see!

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Typical SLC commute view doesn’t suck
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Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M on October 22, 2019, 02:26:48 PM
I cant wait to see that mountain range again.  1st week of Nov.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 22, 2019, 03:16:33 PM
Moab diner. Yum
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: Wingman on October 22, 2019, 04:54:05 PM
Moab diner. Yum

Was thinking about that place very recently...


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Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on October 22, 2019, 05:07:07 PM
ice cream!   
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 23, 2019, 02:15:45 AM
Stopped in Veil for the night.

Spent about 6hr hiking Arches NP. Couple spend another day easy.

Accidentally left the park via 40 miles of washboard dirt. Loose link in the right font was clunking. Gave it some torque but I think there’s some wear done from long term looseness. Might have spare parts in back for it.

Drives great. Not using any oil. Washboard road fixed cruise and fog lights so I know that was funk in switches.

Can’t wait to make this thing good. It’s already ok even as a basketcase.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 24, 2019, 03:33:13 AM
Effighham IL. 711 miles to go.

It isn’t using any oil. Consistently sets post-catalytic o2 codes :( rich on one bank lean on the other, wires swapped on one

Air suspension height sensors still present and functional, values pass sanity check (+10mm in front, -85mm rear)

The RF suspension link I tightened yesterday is clunking again. Pretty sure I have a spare knuckle and spare link in back, but not a spare bolt if I overtorque and break it.  Loose pinch bolt. I expect the knuckle is worn from being loose.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on October 24, 2019, 08:53:58 AM
making time!  maybe its just plugged up cats making codes and sucking power away! 
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 24, 2019, 10:27:16 AM
Could be. Low power could also be that I’m used to peak power nearly off idle and this burns gasoline. It doesn’t have full party mode at the moment but it at least gets out on the dance floor beyond ~3300.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: Nick on October 24, 2019, 11:21:52 AM
What mpg are you getting
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 24, 2019, 12:43:15 PM
Very low 20s doing low 70s.
I need to correct for tire size, will report later. Car computer thinks I’m getting 24.5 and odometer is roughly 10% off.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 24, 2019, 10:19:01 PM
Home safe.

Only LEO interaction was first thing this morning with a townie making sure I wasn’t an out of town OD.

Only mechanical was that damn loose suspension link banging on bumps. I’ll have to post a picture, it’s a weird design.

Ignoring it as-landed until next week. There’s a short 571 punch list before departure after work hours tomorrow for hallowheeling.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: cracker on October 25, 2019, 08:16:29 AM
wasn’t an out of town OD.

??
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 25, 2019, 08:44:45 AM
Utah plate on a car full of shit in a gravel lot in effingham Indiana. Hat over face under jacket and not moving. He thought I might be dead.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: cracker on October 25, 2019, 08:54:05 AM
oh.. OD=Over Dose.. did not think of that because of your usual obscure abbreviations..
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: etk300ex on October 25, 2019, 11:29:30 AM
lol
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 25, 2019, 02:10:47 PM




Used tested-good air shocks and struts arrive tomorrow.

See how quick and fun it’ll be to swap that stuff around.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 28, 2019, 03:49:13 PM
found paperwork today that indicates failed emissions inspection and suspension issues on the car dating back to 2016 😂
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 28, 2019, 10:36:43 PM
Dumpybutt done.

Had wrong o rings in stock to fix bad ones on existing air lines. Hopefully that’s the gross leak on right side and I think it is.

Front still on steel springs. It’s got the one link issue, and I found the spare knuckles I have are non-Allroad and different, so we’ll see what good the spare parts I have will do.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 29, 2019, 12:41:51 PM
Picked up a clunk in the RR. Almost sounds like strut to spring is loose and I’ll need to tear it down again At least I can hear the clunk when parked and i move the car around. I can hear that air leak too.

O rings in tomorrow. Be very interested to see how leakdown is when those are replaced proper. IF the o rings come sized right. They were bagged wrong when I last needed the same size. That was 6 months ago.

It sits straight and happy on level 2 now. Likely leave it there for a bit until I get front suspension parts in for the bad link instead of tearing down twice. Probably wait till I have a spacer kit and tricky links made up.

Should be able to size tires and figure proper wheel offset now. I hear front clearance is tight but it looks like as long as I stay off the knuckle it’s not bad.

Know it needs rear brakes. Haven’t looked at fronts.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M on October 29, 2019, 01:21:42 PM
what size tires you aimin' to squeeze in?
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 29, 2019, 01:34:40 PM
these are 205/55r16.
it was previously on 245/40r18.
"standard" big tire size is 225/65r16 with nothing more than air suspension adjustment
225/75r16 is supposedly good with a lift kit.
pictures of the offroad allroad from first post are on 215/70r16 with no rub at no air status, which is kinda important. Needing a tow if air goes out is off the table.
I'd like to get hold of a sample tire in that size to play with backspacing and whatnot.
I'm thinking I'll try to just go as big as I can without cutting and while maintaining full travel.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 29, 2019, 06:21:04 PM
5.5x8” raw material needed for rear strut spacer

Approx 2.5” center hole.
Title: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 29, 2019, 07:08:58 PM
Perfect.

Hopefully she gets back to me. Fuck FBM.

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Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on October 29, 2019, 08:43:12 PM
5.5x8” raw material needed for rear strut spacer

Approx 2.5” center hole.

you need something the size of a paint can to space a strut?  o my
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 30, 2019, 08:53:45 AM
Picking up those tires tonight. Excited.

I’m sad the A4 platform Jetta isn’t available in AWD.  Drove last night and today, and frankly I like it better. I think it’s the fresh shocks and 1,000lb weight loss. An .:R32 isn’t what I’m after at all though. All the Audi stuff is B platform, and I hate the B4. So ugly.

Rear strut perch, just 2 10mm bolts to a “shelf” on the body:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191030/9dde724e95b70f9c50764ad7fde61a68.jpg)
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: etk300ex on October 30, 2019, 09:36:26 AM
just buy more cars and put them together ;D
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 30, 2019, 10:06:24 AM
rear spacer material ordered.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Delrin-1-034-X-8-5-034-X-11-5-034-8001-/303133429233?&hash=item4694290df1:g:ErEAAOSwsWVcvlSS&autorefresh=true

Hope I can use some lathe time to turn spacers for the front out of 7075 drops I have from making links. 6 straight through 1" long spacers with male and female registers to locate them.

Need to grab bolt sizes to get proper longer bolts unless I have them around from dismantling other things, which I may...

Looks like for wheel adaptors, they're easy to find hubcentric in 20mm. Hopefully that's about right or I'll have to dig. I don't know offset/backspacing on these wheels yet.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 30, 2019, 10:18:10 AM
easier solution if I don't find the spacer I want: "wobble bolts" with an eccentric washer and then use a straight up 5x114.3 Jeep spacer that grow on trees in whatever proper thickness. on a hub-centric hub with proper rings that doesn't even seem sketchy enough to call sketchy.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 30, 2019, 10:44:14 AM
What mpg are you getting

corrected MPG for the little tires: best tank 22.6 (OH to NY), worst tank 18.9 (MO to OH). Trip average 20.7, was doing 75ish most of the time, usually using cruise.
Title: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 30, 2019, 10:10:16 PM
Looks so good it was hard to take them off, but I don’t have proper rings OR good bolt figments so setting down on them was as much as I was willing to do. Trash wheels are back on now.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191031/4217e162a8c750031a8697cbf143189a.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191031/3909d736bb98c0b46963d0d953c8576d.plist)


Current spacers are 0.610”

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191031/9d65cc2fa824393bbf557f3597282b29.jpg)


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191031/1badf384410ceb467312c789d9251316.jpg)


Little cozy without some shifting of things on the front of the front at full lock. Unsurprising.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191031/89b3ddee2f1d7e000a8743402777c72f.jpg)
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 31, 2019, 04:56:12 PM
I wonder what's up with tapatalk posting ENORMOUS photos
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M on October 31, 2019, 06:20:22 PM
It looks so damn good.   I usually hate RWL, but looks great in your case.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 01, 2019, 10:35:26 PM
Anyone have any idea why the Germans call a core support a front lock carrier?

It’s out of the way. New alternator apparent as claimed. Ready to keep stripping until the leaks are gone then put it back together. Gonna be cold in the morning.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: rejeep on November 01, 2019, 11:08:17 PM
Same reason the rad panel on a Land Rover is called the breakfast.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 02, 2019, 08:38:41 AM
For real? That sounds even more made up!
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 02, 2019, 08:40:07 AM
Left front axle inner cv boot is totally separated.

Rear diff has one bad axle seal.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 02, 2019, 01:33:12 PM
#naked
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191102/aec19d20339478cc261ce84c7babc60f.jpg)
Title: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 02, 2019, 08:17:09 PM
Rain delay #fail

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191103/5bde911d08d433b82219f8c04b827a35.jpg)

Doing the cam seals is a bigger job than a timing belt. Fuck.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 02, 2019, 08:30:04 PM
Sigh

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191103/c9a250c67b1f46dda92a43905aa75f5c.jpg)
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 02, 2019, 08:53:35 PM
Sigh

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191103/c9a250c67b1f46dda92a43905aa75f5c.jpg)
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 02, 2019, 11:01:21 PM
One head done. What a fucker.

Wheel spacers showed up. Came with proper bolts but i shire could use a DIr to chase the threads. Those hubs haven’t had proper engagement for a while apparently. The nice spline drive closed end sparco lug nuts fit too. Winning!

Hub rings didn’t make it early (all was due Monday) but I can bolt em up anyway if I want.

And I want. Because I want to be done with this timing and sealing stuff. This has to be 10 hours book labor. I’m curious.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 03, 2019, 01:10:13 PM
Could test fire right now, should be all good. Cleaned up and heading to my parents for dad’s birthday. Hopefully wrap it up tomorrow. Might take the afternoon off if work cooperates.

Probably have a total of 14-17 hours into it. I don’t find it terrible to come in at 2x book time as a non”pro doing a job for the first time on a car and platform I’m not familiar with.

Took me 1/3 the time to do the chain guides on the second cam chain tensioner as the first. Total time on that side was the same thought because I had to remove the egr valve to get things apart and that was three blind and inaccessible bolts, of which I removed 4

Too me a minute to find the extra hole, but I did!
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 04, 2019, 12:50:02 PM
Should have this (the belts and seals part at least - no the suspension part) wrapped up tonight.

ebay seller has gone quiet on the blown rear shocks and horrible rattle from one side.
emailed arie about parts, he did earlier confirm vendor relation.
I may make my rear lift blocks and throw the steel spring struts back in at a level stance. would be muuuuch cheaper, but no availability to gain inches of clearance at the push of a button. All depends what its capability really is on whether I care about that or not.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 04, 2019, 06:21:14 PM
Appears I fucked up something in the passenger side bank. Non catastrophic but fml.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on November 04, 2019, 06:24:50 PM
fawk.  get to fire before past 80% re assembly?
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on November 04, 2019, 06:25:46 PM
if it makes you feel any better, what i am going to most likely pick up Thursday is fully inspired by your shenanigans.  <keepin it a secret!>
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 05, 2019, 02:11:10 AM
I went to 90% assembly like a confident idiot.

I fixed that without tearing it down all the way - intake and exhaust were off by 1 tooth. The cam chain tensioner is a fooler. I have a photo of it when I was putting it together and it looks right. It threw codes and didn’t run right and I took the cover off and it was off by a tooth. Managed to pull the slave cam and tensioner and fix it. Left the belt on. I considered that an accomplishment until I finished it up, filled coolant, and had a gross leak.

Couldn’t find. Looked for hours. It was appearing at the bottom back corner of the block. I’d accidentally pulled one of two bolts on the crossover tube between the backs of the heads but that wasn’t the leak. It HAD to be the thermostat housing. Makes no sense - wrong place for it to dribble. And definitive check means FULL tear down, it’s behind the timing belt.

Pressurized system in hopes of speeding leak, and it sealed up. We’ll see if that lasts.

It’s still not running right either. Didn’t clear up with idle time nor a couple miles driven. Bank 1 is collecting misfires and sounds like a gross exhaust leak. Same bank that I was off by a tooth between cams.

Might check compression, but I have zero indication that anything touched. Did 3-4 full revolutions before firing and never any noises.

I did have to R&R the EGR valve twice (valve cover doesn’t clear, tensioner requires full removal) but it passes visual and I can’t feel any exhaust leak.

It’s even loud in the car under accel. It really sounds like an exhaust leak. I don’t get it.

Not giving up, but may have to throw to the Audi forums.

Definitely know it intimately now.
Put the tires on too. Had to trim 20 bolts
Found that out after bottoming 10 of them in the front knuckles. Hope I didn’t take too many miles off the bearings with that dumbassery.

Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 05, 2019, 02:34:50 AM
Exactly me


https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/565053-2-7t-quot-Diesel-quot-Engine-Noise-After-Timing-Belt-and-Valve-Cover-Gasket-Replacement
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 05, 2019, 02:42:37 AM
Same OP on audiworld too with resolution. Lots of folks saying lack of oil pressure in tensioner will do that, in his case the combo valve was lose. Will double check valve and if tight will pull cover again and investigate if I blocked the oil port somehow when I fixed the chain.

Good: next steps to take.

Probably shouldn’t drive it if the chain is rattling around without tension. Seems bad for all those parts.

Sounds like that chain tensioner does vary intake cam timing by bursting pressure to top or bottom. I didn’t realize but that makes sense. Why else would it be the way it is...
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 05, 2019, 11:55:31 AM
had a thought: I can check chain tensioner with 2 bolts and the cam position sensor. Pull that cap in 45 seconds, if the intake cam can rock back and forth the tensioner isn't working right in spite of not setting a code. If the cam seems tight, it's almost got to be a combi valve exhaust leak in spite of not being able to find it.

I couldn't resist and drove it to work. 😍 😍 😍
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 05, 2019, 12:53:38 PM
98% convinced it’s a combi valve exhaust leak. It sounds like an exhaust leak. Goes away entirely on decel until return to idle.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 05, 2019, 01:02:31 PM
if it makes you feel any better, what i am going to most likely pick up Thursday is fully inspired by your shenanigans.  <keepin it a secret!>

I’m unspeakably excited to see your secret. I don’t have a clue. It can’t be an Eagle, and i don’t expect it to be a Subi, but that seems most likely. Just too normal to count as inspiration haha
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: etk300ex on November 05, 2019, 01:29:37 PM
me too
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 06, 2019, 03:17:47 PM
gonna be rolling with that exhaust leak for a bit, seal is a week out for anyone it seems.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 07, 2019, 04:14:15 PM
available... RAUDI isn't.
Dunno if I'll bother.

Since I know Matt will wonder - the new non-yellow Excelsior plates start their run in April '20. They are similar in look to the blue on white Empire plates.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_New_York#1966_to_present
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: Wingman on November 07, 2019, 06:01:45 PM
Personally, I refuse to give this state any more of my dollars than I have to.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 08, 2019, 10:30:14 PM
Haven’t noticed any rub since I put the fender liners in. Neat!

Ordered lower arms and left axle shaft. Be here week from Tuesday. Slap that in along with the front air struts I think.

Should do lift at the same time. Need an hour or two on lathe and 8 proper bolts.

Reduce reliability! Increase cool! Go
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: TrailTamer on November 08, 2019, 10:36:42 PM
Of fraud I

Lol
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on November 09, 2019, 05:40:31 PM
can you bring my engine lift back if / when you need to use the lathe? 
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 09, 2019, 07:33:28 PM
Absolutely.

Was hoping I’d get things torn apart and have white Jetta ready for scrap soon. I think that’s next up on my list for tomorrow.

Confirmed exhaust leak, and found source, and repaired. This is the mounting face. I didn’t put the seal in that arrived today. I just moved the mounting tab for whatever that is behind the tube where it belongs. Both bolt holes are in the mostly soot-covered face of that egr tube.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191110/51f59327abb5938aabe3338ccfc9e46e.jpg)
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M on November 12, 2019, 10:00:29 AM
lol, I didn't wonder but that's cool to know.   Totally forgot NYS will have new plates soon.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 17, 2019, 05:10:30 PM
$30 and I’ve got bluetooth to the stock head unit via cd changer connection.

Embarrassingly large amount of time though. Radio didn’t want to go back in it’s home with the harness adaptor in place so after fighting with that for too long I backed the pins out of the adaptor and shoved them in the stock harness.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 25, 2019, 11:17:18 PM
Rear brakes done after groceries and dinner. Couldn’t find my VW rear brake tool, so had to improvise. Found a bolt and washer setup that worked as good as the right tool. Eventually.

Planning to try and do the frontend tomorrow. Much bigger job, essentially a full strip.
All control arms, struts, one axle and brake pads.

Maybe voodoo on one knuckle to work around wear from old loose parts, or maybe not.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on November 26, 2019, 09:52:36 AM
i have had your brake tool i believe for years, and i have reminded you that at least 3 times lol 
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 26, 2019, 10:21:46 AM
I thought you'd given it back to me a year or 2 ago, but the most recent time I remember seeing it is when I remember you giving it to me, so maybe I forgot to bring it with me and you still have it? I wasted a fair bit of time looking for it, so you still having it in spite of my memory would make a whole lot of sense!
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 26, 2019, 10:22:28 AM
A half inch bolt and some washers along with a large grinder pin spanner wrench did the trick
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on November 26, 2019, 01:45:12 PM
i might be wrong.  i despise the thing so i could have blocked it out returning it or not haha
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 26, 2019, 11:26:36 PM
Left front done. Brakes, axle shaft, 4 suspension arms and replaced a bad boot on tie rod end. Rod end was easy to move, but no click. Right front hopefully before rain tomorrow. Then cooking.

Axle that was essentially bootless on the inner cv really hadn’t worn much. Barely a click. If it’s a spare for more than one corner, I’ll hang onto it - but part numbers are different for all 4 iirc. At least for each front.

Stock air bag up front goes scary low. Dead straight ahead has the tire tucked inches and into fender liner all over. Any steering angle would do body damage and remove the flare. Will add spacers soonish. Zero driving ability if anything goes wrong with air as is. Bit worse than I expected. Seems like more relative uptravel than the rear has when flat.

Hoping for no issues so I don’t have to swap shocks back right away. Shouldn’t be too bad to do if I need to.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 26, 2019, 11:27:37 PM
And hopefully I don’t forget to hook up the sway bar. Didn’t align well enough to put on w one corner in the air.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M on November 27, 2019, 11:11:22 AM
sounds like a PITA and potential trouble down the road.

Why not convert the air suspension to coils?
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 27, 2019, 03:34:06 PM
It already was on coils when I bought it, done very wrong. I figured I’d try it as the Germans intended as my first effort on un fucking it before I give up.

Took me a little while to get ride Heights adjusted where I wanted them, all set and just did a nice test drive. Appears to be full success… For now
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 29, 2019, 07:55:14 PM
Fronts leak down overnight. Soap spray showed no bubbles at the struts. I blame Molter.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on November 29, 2019, 08:06:40 PM
boo! hiss!!
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M on December 01, 2019, 12:38:46 AM
lmao
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on December 04, 2019, 08:18:34 PM
https://www.ebay.com/i/192039715855?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=192039715855&targetid=596465996108&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9051644&poi=&campaignid=6470719577&mkgroupid=81597521270&rlsatarget=pla-596465996108&abcId=1140476&merchantid=114697491&gclid=Cj0KCQiAz53vBRCpARIsAPPsz8XQG8XAgJT0QSxwGIa-e5qAZtCnlVANhFtf9r87Tk7k7p33KI3T4qQaAjD4EALw_wcB
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on March 03, 2020, 09:34:12 PM
Noted a little loose feeling.

Jacked up the rear, and the reportedly seized toe adjuster on the left rear is loose. Nice!
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: etk300ex on March 04, 2020, 08:03:33 AM
That's the best fix!
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on January 29, 2021, 12:56:37 PM
Picked up a little vibe ~45mph on the way home last night. Getting a bit worse on the way in today. Stopped to check for a loose wheel. Nothing noted in a parking lot where shake.

I’m thinking it could be a driveshaft or axle joint maybe. Present under accel, not under neutral or coast. Gotta get it up and look at it.
Due for oil change anyway.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on February 01, 2021, 08:02:09 PM

Ordered lower arms and left axle shaft. Be here week from Tuesday. Slap that in along with the front air struts I think.

right front axle shaft seems to be my issue. boot is split, has a bit of click/play. Driveshaft is all good and rear axle shafts feel good.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on February 02, 2021, 08:43:39 PM
The last 15 minutes of the 1:10 home from work today were fantastic.

❤️️ Quattro
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on July 05, 2021, 10:13:25 PM
Pulled in for gross coolant leak that showed up last time I went to drive it, which may have been to go to Jeff's party a month ago or so? Flat dead battery, it's 2 years old and has never had any issue at all.

Went through the underside closely and have a sorta long list. Bad CV boot, bad axle seal on rear diff, oil leak. Bah. Need to tip the nose out to 'service position' to dig into thermostat housing to see if it's an o-ring or a cracked plastic housing causing the leak.

If the plastic is knackered, I believe this is the correct metal replacement. noted for self
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-assembled-by-ecs-parts/thermostat-replacement-kit/07812112jkt4/
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on July 09, 2021, 08:02:12 PM
parts car?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/737987436897000/?ref=browse_tab&referral_code=marketplace_general&referral_story_type=general&tracking=%7B%22qid%22%3A%22-8174540676047838755%22%2C%22mf_story_key%22%3A%2230663935260923799%22%2C%22commerce_rank_obj%22%3A%22%7B%5C%22target_id%5C%22%3A30663935260923799%2C%5C%22target_type%5C%22%3A6%2C%5C%22primary_position%5C%22%3A35%2C%5C%22ranking_signature%5C%22%3A3610322540917948416%2C%5C%22commerce_channel%5C%22%3A501%2C%5C%22value%5C%22%3A1.212410124141e-5%2C%5C%22upsell_type%5C%22%3A108%7D%22%7D
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on September 04, 2021, 06:46:39 PM
Impressed me today, and Sarah enjoyed. If there’s any action pics, they’re on her camera.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210904/406f44df87c7e753b511587f28bb2e61.jpg)
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on September 19, 2021, 04:44:04 PM
Moved around 4-5 times since Attica trip.
Left key on yesterday and batter went flat. Would not start. Charged and disconnected. Started once and then won’t restart.

Consistent codes:

2 Faults Found:
17800 - Camshaft Position Sensor Bank 2 (G163)
P1392 - 35-00 - Open Short to Plus

17745 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40)
P1337 - 35-00 - Short to Ground
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on September 19, 2021, 05:48:10 PM
audi / VW so fun with dead batteries!
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on September 19, 2021, 06:05:04 PM
bolts backed out, sensor broken. hell of a coincidence!
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on September 20, 2021, 09:18:22 AM
found a ton of fuel all over the injectors from cranking. have new o-rings coming too.

I know I have EVAP issues, would be nice if I can nail that down and get the MIL off for a sticker someday.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on September 22, 2021, 06:46:04 PM
Injector o rings was a pretty easy job. Fuel rails are one unit with a bunch of extra claptrap piping. All fixed on those fuel leaks.

New sensor installed. Same codes. Really long crank time (didn’t count it off, has to be 2 seconds or more when it’s always been more like 3 revolutions) but it least it starts every time now.

Didn’t note any wiring damage but I guess I need to dig deeper :(
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on September 26, 2021, 10:44:54 PM
Long crank to start and run. Guess it’s good enough-ish. Will disconnect sensors and see if codes change.

Water neck swap next week for fall color run. It’s dumping coolant again for fun. Confirmed source.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 08, 2021, 10:28:35 PM
Water neck swapped. Fully risky move to shortcut pulling alternator and bracket by pulling timing belt off of passenger camshaft. It was fine.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211009/3cafa2f284ad7e32c2f2104fd37429d3.jpg)
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 23, 2021, 04:15:30 PM
Both cam sensors confirmed getting 4.97v at the plugs sure seems like that isn’t “shorted”

I suppose I should check resistance across the pins on the sensors

I don’t have a perfect means to backprobe or to scope the signal wire of the Hall effect sensors but these codes don’t seem to say no signal.

Hmm.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211023/aa0da6497049d4436c15ad45e364f6f7.jpg)
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 23, 2021, 04:32:34 PM
Duh.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211023/24a682c9d15a4c57f83a920d2b90c4fa.jpg)
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on October 23, 2021, 08:12:29 PM
eww
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 09, 2021, 09:12:27 AM
Throwing constant suspension codes on the way to work today after airing up fine last night.

Was really fun to run around Attica which does need the adjustable height. So that’s once used in 2? years

May be time to just abandon the air.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 16, 2021, 02:25:56 PM
$25 and 30m job to put new seal in the compressor. part will be here friday. if that works I'm good with it.

will get that, and further testing on windshield squirts while it's in the air. washer resi access is through driver front fender liner.

new axle shaft delivered today too. this one nowhere near as bad as the TDI wagon so that's less emergency. that unit got parked last week for fear of axle explosion.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 20, 2021, 08:57:27 PM
Was probably 75-90 min job. Annoying to remove. Swapping the worn out piston seal once it was out was like 2 min.

Seems much much much better.

Pressure doesn’t go any mugger. All the way up to highest level the system pressure was still only 135ish.




Pulled the cam sensor that was still throwing codes. Destroyed.

Found 2 magnets (should have been 1) in the remains of the cup that the sensor reads. So parts were missed when I replaced the sensor last time. Little tin cup is a long wait and 4x the price it seems it should be. Oh well.




Looked at windshield washer. Pump is bad. Also not getting power though. Wiring diagrams for that system are confusing and colors don’t match what’s in the car. May just rewire to a dedicated pushbutton if I can’t figure that out, after checking the fuses and fuse block for an 8th time. The old pump was dead short so it should have blown the fuse.

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Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on November 27, 2021, 08:02:35 PM
Axle shaft done, camshaft position sensor done, squirts work with the new pump installed - rear seems to be missing a nozzle. meh

airs up real quick now.

ready for snow commutes
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on January 01, 2022, 07:48:50 PM
Left rear outer bad cv boot spotted while changing rear shocks. Next axle on deck I guess ¯\_(?)_/¯

Seems loud going down to road lately. Should start throwing wheel bearings at it. No distinct corner. Sounds like tire noise and I guess it could be, but I suspect not.

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Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on January 09, 2022, 06:34:25 PM
Luck ran out on no inspections today. Trooper on 5&20 spotted lack of sticker and ran plates. Asked how long I’ve been getting away with this, with genuine curiosity. He knew the date on this one from running the plate. I didn’t share how many others of mine are the same. I suspect he could see that in tracs if he wanted to under other registered vehicles…
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on January 09, 2022, 09:05:53 PM
they are bastards on 5&20 i got pulled over twice in Lima in the IH with a red sticker this year. 

The RAM got read by a plate reader in Batavia and he was confused by a blue sticker when his display said last inspected 8/2020   ::)    played dumb, got a print out and got let out of that one also lol 
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: cracker on January 09, 2022, 11:56:31 PM
I got a ticket in naples Friday for expired inspection from a trooper while driving Sara's honda.  It expired in November.. I had not noticed.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on January 13, 2022, 01:45:41 PM
bad valve cover seal likely contributing to clutch failure. not sure if clutch will get better after valve cover seal replacement or not. nearly impossible to see back there. RPM just flares all the time even in low gears, it's still drivable but I suspect not for long. It's not in shape to do a poker run, that's for sure. clutch is no small job, unfortunately.

if I want to keep it and be fun I should upgrade turbos while it is out, and reseal everything, and get a smoke machine and take care of SAI and evap issues so it has a prayer of passing inspection.

has shown me a blinking MIL a couple times a minute after cold start, haven't pulled codes to see what for yet. my bet is cam phaser something.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on February 01, 2022, 09:01:26 PM
cool! No evap codes!

Tuesday,01,February,2022,20:58:38:62508
VCDS Version: Release 21.9.0 (x64) Running on Windows 7 x64
www.Ross-Tech.com

                Address 01: Engine       Labels: 078-907-551-AZA.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 4Z7 907 551 S
  Component and/or Version: 2.7L V6/5VT     G   0020
           Software Coding: 07715
            Work Shop Code: WSC 08259 
           Additional Info: WA1YD64B83N005101     AUZ7Z0B2162515
                      VCID: 53AF0510A1016411AC-5178
12 Faults Found:

17831 - Secondary Air Injection System; Bank 1
            P1423 - 35-00 - Insufficient Flow
17819 - Secondary Air Injection System; Bank 2
            P1411 - 35-00 - Insufficient Flow
19718 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2 / B2 S2 Connections Swapped
            P3262 - 35-00 -
16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
            P0300 - 35-10 -  - Intermittent
16685 - Cylinder 1
            P0301 - 35-10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
16687 - Cylinder 3
            P0303 - 35-10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
16686 - Cylinder 2
            P0302 - 35-10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
16688 - Cylinder 4
            P0304 - 35-10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
16690 - Cylinder 6
            P0306 - 35-10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
17863 - Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 1 (G235)
            P1455 - 35-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
17584 - Bank1: O2 (Lambda) Correction Behind Catalyst
            P1176 - 35-00 - Control Limit Reached
17585 - Bank2: O2 (Lambda) Correction Behind Catalyst
            P1177 - 35-00 - Control Limit Reached

Readiness: 0000 0101
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on February 01, 2022, 09:03:15 PM
Readiness shows 2 no go: catalytics an evap

I already tried a spark plug antifouler to space the sensors out. at 192k it may need catalytics to pass without further "adjustment"
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on August 04, 2022, 07:28:46 PM
Considering TDI swapping this and sincerely making a forever car of this…

Solves the “why two wagons” question I’ve been asking myself for two years.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on August 05, 2022, 08:37:45 AM
ignoring your nuts with the lines of projects you have, doesnt that sound annoying for inspection?
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: Wingman on August 05, 2022, 10:12:10 AM
Considering TDI swapping this and sincerely making a forever car of this…

Nothing is a forever car in NY  :-\
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on August 05, 2022, 03:58:40 PM
true, but it's essentially rust free now so that's a 7-10 year car...

it would be emissions compatible, should be able to get proper vin and fuel type in computer. though I do know it's a different computer between the two. plug compatible but some pin differences. other things to look into.

but with catalytic codes and needing a clutch and evap issues... ¯\_(?)_/¯
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 23, 2022, 07:56:20 PM
ordered an expensive clutch for this guy. probably drive it this winter otherwise as-is. hopefully code out or fool the catalytic issue so I can get it stickered. smoke machine should find the evap and SAI issues, I'm sure they are patchable.

ought to be a stupid hassle.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 27, 2022, 01:01:29 PM
Interstate had a blem correct battery for this. it's a bit fit critical so that's good. nice that they're still $60.
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: M4wdFab on October 30, 2022, 04:50:59 PM
well price went up from everyone i have ever bought at 50 from them. 


im at 4 failures of last 8 batteries from them in less than 2 years, not great record. 
Title: Re: MMTR Allroad Idiocy
Post by: mr.mindless on October 30, 2022, 05:11:12 PM
I just used that same battery for winching onto your trailer. Good start by my book.

I seem to ruin 5 batteries per year so cheaper the better