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Title: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on January 24, 2017, 09:41:37 AM
newly procured project. 
determined power train is a bit loose for a buggy motor.  rolls coal great though!


07' van / chassis dual rear wheel, 589K miles on a DBW 6.0, 4l80e
we pulled the box for a shed, and now it sits.
looking for a 1930's-60's complete cab with title
and will flatbed it.

plan to use van floor and firewall, mate it to the doner cab.  source seats and interior mismatch it.   
crawler hauler potential
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on January 24, 2017, 09:44:52 AM
probably needs boost. well run in. just a couple PSI to bump the CR back up :)
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: KingtheZJ on February 10, 2017, 10:33:27 PM
https://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/5998512005.html
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on March 08, 2017, 02:20:10 PM
might have to scrap this project with town issues thanks to tenants. 


boo.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: rejeep on March 08, 2017, 02:42:11 PM
i have places you can stash if needed
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on March 08, 2017, 07:37:59 PM
unit currently powering a 10K inverter and my apartment haha


no power since about 2pm in Henrietta
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on March 10, 2017, 08:50:49 AM
might have to add a high idle feature to this unit

having trouble keeping up with a 1200watt space heater. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on March 10, 2017, 09:04:31 AM
shame the Honda is in UT.
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Post by: Wingman on March 10, 2017, 09:33:45 AM
Ground the ECM AC trigger? It'll give you at least 100 rpm.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on March 10, 2017, 09:50:22 AM
i thought about that but it was cold and the dash is all butchered with no HVAC functionality. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on March 10, 2017, 10:12:32 AM
vice grips on throttle cable?
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on March 10, 2017, 12:09:01 PM
drive by wire or it would have gotten a screwdriver uder the idle stop. 

will manage!
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on March 24, 2017, 10:57:14 AM
spencer sent over this one this morning.  hmm.  looks annoying to appear in my lot.  would have a hard time not just wanting to get it running being 4x4.  case and drive shafts out, glass and cab good. 

https://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/6057761561.html 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on March 24, 2017, 11:41:13 AM
That old chassis is about useless. You'll spend way too much time on it.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: carchameleon on March 25, 2017, 03:42:33 PM
that thing has been sitting in that spot for a long time..
the whole time i worked at that factory in macedon it was there
drove by it almost every day
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on March 30, 2017, 10:12:26 PM
https://rochester.craigslist.org/for/6055405495.html

(https://images.craigslist.org/00u0u_kIv3hDadzlL_1200x900.jpg)
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on March 30, 2017, 10:14:35 PM
https://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/6039323953.html

(https://images.craigslist.org/00B0B_kGtBYuvh6JI_1200x900.jpg)
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on March 30, 2017, 10:22:26 PM
good finds mark.  i really need a title though also.  (trans reg before 72 i believe)
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: gif on March 30, 2017, 10:31:54 PM
i like that 52  !

wonder if i can get that on my 10K trailer
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on March 30, 2017, 10:32:38 PM
...trans reg before 72...

There is a process that isn't terrible. Finding something that old with good paper will be difficult.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: KingtheZJ on March 31, 2017, 09:02:11 AM
looks super easy in theory


https://dmv.ny.gov/registration/proof-ownership-not-available

https://dmv.ny.gov/forms/mv51b.pdf
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on March 31, 2017, 09:48:08 AM
ya right.

that looks like a clusterfuck that no one at the dmv would be aware of the process or process rules.

NO THANKS
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on March 31, 2017, 01:48:11 PM
Looks like fill out some paperwork and wait. Seems like a bit of a gamble but still seems easier than a homebuilt...
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: carchameleon on April 01, 2017, 09:38:11 AM
https://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/6039323953.html

(https://images.craigslist.org/00B0B_kGtBYuvh6JI_1200x900.jpg)

i like this one
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on April 03, 2017, 02:22:55 PM
asked what paper work he has, and for interior pics

https://buffalo.craigslist.org/cto/6070907725.html 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on April 03, 2017, 02:50:27 PM
that looks great, relatively speaking. haven't seen one that complete plus that cheap in quite a while.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on April 04, 2017, 09:11:09 AM
no keys
floor already removed  :o

Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on April 23, 2017, 11:13:23 PM
looked at a 52  chevy 4400 and deal made via email. 


might need some MMTR tomorrow
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on April 24, 2017, 02:21:16 PM
Ready.


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Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on April 24, 2017, 04:30:50 PM
MV-353 does not exist on DMV site.  lame.  printed out a MV-51
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: KingtheZJ on April 24, 2017, 04:40:50 PM
it looks like MV-353 is issued by the DMV to the current owner only. My reading shows MV-51 is what you need.

I always take a DTF-802, which you have to fill out anyway, and get a seller signature right on it with sale price.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on April 24, 2017, 09:48:16 PM
sweet unit aquired,  52 Chevy 4400 hydro flat dump.  has a lot of character!   hood and driver door seized.  steers and rolls!
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on April 25, 2017, 09:19:14 PM
van was dead, battery on charge.

pulled 2 garbage cans full of mouse house out of interior of 4400

lower bench seat tossed, driver door freed up.

cant get hood to open, dont see a vin tag with flash light.  soaked with oil but probably gona get the plasma cutter next attempt
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on April 25, 2017, 10:06:01 PM
VIN plate should be between driver door hinges
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on April 25, 2017, 10:17:07 PM
there is a chevy plate but it only has the GVW between the door hinges
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on April 25, 2017, 10:24:40 PM
i guess ill have to look at it again, but there was no serial number i could see after looking at it for a minute or two. 

11000 GVW and 81.5 net HP



has part of a 1973 inspection sticker left on it
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on April 26, 2017, 09:17:08 AM
looks like CA used engine SN's as VIN
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on April 26, 2017, 09:38:00 AM
Should be the same plate. Stamping may be less than great.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: gif on April 26, 2017, 03:21:44 PM
you have a picture of the concept or goal of this build?
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on April 26, 2017, 10:28:21 PM
chevy cab on van chassis is the concept. 


do the things



run it!

hoping to have a 13' flat bed with a goose ball in it. 

minimal rat rod style work. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on April 29, 2017, 09:24:08 PM
lined up.  not sure worth saving floor and fire wall.  considering just starting with the chassis, and running the motor/trans stand alone like a buggy. 

started pulling off savable items from the van.  still left it mobile. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on April 29, 2017, 09:25:19 PM
status
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: orange anchor on May 01, 2017, 07:51:34 AM
Smike watch those rims they may be the 2 pc. killer rims. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on May 01, 2017, 07:56:03 AM
They sure are.


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Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 01, 2017, 09:27:24 AM
dont plan to touch them with anything other than my snow plow to push the scrap around
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on May 01, 2017, 09:30:51 AM
Not all of the two piece rims are death... Just a particular version (RH-5). Those actually look like 3 piece wheels.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: jacel86 on May 01, 2017, 10:38:45 AM
Lock ring = safe
2 piece wheel= run
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170501/1ee3630ebbcc89e6f70af13283c832ec.jpg)

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Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on May 01, 2017, 10:53:03 AM
this thread taught me things.

http://forums.aths.org/172090/5%C2%B0-split-rims?PageIndex=2

looks like on the lock ring type wheels, the bead seat actually presses everything together. On that 2 piece, it just needs to be in its happy place.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 01, 2017, 10:55:46 AM
WHere is the wheel mount surface in the above pic?  lol
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on May 01, 2017, 11:11:28 AM
WHere is the wheel mount surface in the above pic?  lol

Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 01, 2017, 01:08:39 PM
wheel mount surface (lugs) not where the tire rubber goes


or im not understanding even more....
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on May 01, 2017, 02:14:44 PM
that's just a the rim profile - all are shown in profile as "demountable" wheels. wheel could also have a center attached to the inner shell. not shown but it would be towards the bottom of the pic (obv)

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRE6cBZKzhKp9DcqKirIFBmGFTcGgQNJZONiY8B6FrbGaV1B1zu)
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 07, 2017, 10:47:29 PM
van stripped to a chassis, cab and scrap loaded on RAM

52 pushed into the shop.

rear cab mount shackels in tact and functional, should bolt right to new frame.  center fire wall mounts pretty rough and fighting to come loose.  front clip mount free after two snapped bolts.  torched some of the hood hinge levers and got the hood open, gutted electrical. 

should be good to lift off next time in the shop after disconnecting steering. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on May 08, 2017, 09:14:02 AM
awesome
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 08, 2017, 09:16:02 AM
Tap measure says the 52 frame is 36" wide OD.  the Van frame is 36" ID.  after spending some time under the 52 cutting mounts, i dont see anything that that will be an issue. 


Track width the front duals should be flush or exposed by .5"
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: TrailTamer on May 08, 2017, 10:01:56 AM
What's your plan with wheels/tires? Stock van tires seem like they'll look tiny
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 08, 2017, 10:15:27 AM
will evaluate once i get closer with the cab mounted.  might run them or plan b is to find some 19.5s to bolt on
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 08, 2017, 10:34:52 PM
night 3

got the 52 cab popped off and hung for install.

looks good, need to pull some dip sticks and radiator might be interesting, but fire wall and wheel well looks good. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 10, 2017, 12:57:14 PM
just pushed the 52 rolling chassis on to a trailer at lunch and sent it with the first CL guy that contacted me. 

cut my bumper off and grabbed some other things but not worth my time i guess to part it out!

Same guy that bought Jeffs Green truck. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on May 10, 2017, 02:30:41 PM
Save that guy's number, I may have things for him too...
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on May 10, 2017, 02:37:02 PM
interesting. Glad to see it going somewhere good.

100% money back?
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Post by: etk300ex on May 10, 2017, 02:38:29 PM
$/lb?
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Post by: orange anchor on May 11, 2017, 06:56:16 AM
I am wondering how the connection was made between us.  Is the guy a big living in Mendon that owns an excavation company?
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 11, 2017, 08:43:27 AM
yep thats him. 


Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 11, 2017, 09:27:00 PM
52 cab is sittin on the new chassis.  front and rear mounts cake.  center wont be too bad.  it was super tight so i opened up the inner fender wells.  steering and everything looks great.  Radiator is going to be tricky
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 11, 2017, 09:31:05 PM
got the 52 cab with in a round inch of where it will live. 


I might actually like the van rubber.......  little plasma work and she slipped right on. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 11, 2017, 09:57:09 PM
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Garage-Sale-Universal-Aluminum-Radiator-27-Inch-Tall-Passenger-Side-Outlet,294597.html
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 11, 2017, 10:40:03 PM
just say no!


https://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/6111843451.html 


Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 12, 2017, 09:17:34 AM
van cab loaded for scrap at lunch
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: TrailTamer on May 12, 2017, 09:34:08 AM
where you usually take scrap to? I have a lot of scrap to get rid of as well
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 12, 2017, 09:48:01 AM
metalico on scottsville rd
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Post by: matt on May 12, 2017, 12:10:24 PM
Thought I had a set of 19.5 for you I spotted at the junk yard but they were 10 lug not 8.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 12, 2017, 12:41:05 PM
155/GT netted 47$ from a van cab

man the scrap people are out eyeing up my truck at the lol
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: rejeep on May 12, 2017, 01:58:03 PM
Metalico on Portland.. just to keep it real
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on May 12, 2017, 03:10:52 PM
thought they closed the Portland location? or was that just the transfer station I'm thinking of?
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: dubt on May 12, 2017, 08:59:25 PM
Just the transfer station
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Post by: M4wdFab on May 12, 2017, 11:06:51 PM
got to stare at this guy in daylight.  i love it.


started on front passenger center cab mount reconstruction.  going to weld 16gage steel in like a farmer.


need a bigger shop. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: rejeep on May 13, 2017, 06:02:49 PM
its awesome
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Post by: gif on May 13, 2017, 09:59:16 PM
Looking good.

Wheel and tires look fine.   Run em

Your making me want to start another build
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 13, 2017, 10:26:37 PM
both sides floors rebuilt and tied in to fire wall and a pillars,  Cab is a unit once again.  sitting on rubber bolted down in 6 places with doors that open.

Side steps re hung



that was an M4 14hr day today....
out of mig gas.


hit list

send ECM out
oil cooler provisions
order radiator
gages
ignition and lights wiring
front bumper hang
extend hydroboost lines
mount brake assembly
mount DBW gas petdal assembly
mate steering shaft
air cleaner
decide on exhaust or leave.
bench seat
flat bed
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 14, 2017, 12:26:14 AM
the next one, i think ill def look for a better cab,  this thing was pretty shot.

cant believe how it fits on the frame like a glove though
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: luvmyxj on May 14, 2017, 08:23:14 AM
gonna slam it or leave it at ride height?
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 14, 2017, 08:43:36 AM
pics above are at where its gona be. 

not going for a low rider, just a farm truck
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on May 14, 2017, 10:13:25 AM
both sides floors rebuilt and tied in to fire wall and a pillars,  Cab is a unit once again.  sitting on rubber bolted down in 6 places with doors that open.


Holy shit you work fast. Floors must not have been too bad to patch up?



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Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 14, 2017, 10:08:58 PM
14hrs lab in my shop = it was a pain in the fucking dick but a good start to being done right when i get more mig gas.


not much done today by the time i got to the shop.  Front bumper cut apart and prepped for install.  ECM pulled and packed up to send out tomorrow. 




Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 15, 2017, 11:25:24 PM
summit order and ebay orders placed, 95% of all components needed for completion ill have next week
dropped ECM to post office to send to LT1

HTR core in and out holes tapped and plugged on the 6.0
52 column pulled, pull all van and all 52 steering parts on the bench.  went together great, using most of the van parts adapted to a shortened 52 column.  it fell together with no issues and will be awesome.  as long as my measurements were right. 


had to cut 52 fire wall to get column out as its an assembled unit to the box.  70 year old grease is awesome. 

should steer tomorrow. 
needs a driver tie rod end. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 15, 2017, 11:27:00 PM
delphi car show June 20. 

thats the drive out goal. 


havent had this much fun in a while on a project.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 16, 2017, 09:51:51 AM
van steering is really neat.

i ended up using all the parts to make it easy and get around the LS headers. 

The shaft tube will bolt to a bracket welded to the frame coil spring mount. 

buried in 70 year old grease, there is a 3/4" shaft in the 52 column that adapted right up to van parts / column bearings.  turned out awesome. 

need to install tonight and make the coil bucket bracket. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: orange anchor on May 16, 2017, 01:37:50 PM
I agree, I used all the bus steering components.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 16, 2017, 03:36:01 PM
gieco quoted a 52 chevy at 175$ every6 months. 

i guess if im going to have 4 sets of plates i should run some quotes else where.  gieco seems to not give mulit discounts with single drivers. 
Title: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: KingtheZJ on May 16, 2017, 03:59:36 PM
gotta go historical if you can.

state farm current list:
2003 silverado with comp and collision $78/mo
2007 fusion with comp $68/mo
1986 Jetta with comp historical  $12/mo


had:
1988  XJ with comp historical $7/mo

multi vehicle discount is 15% off

i'll text you two contacts to get quotes from.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 16, 2017, 05:28:43 PM
your truck number sounds way high compared to what i pay for my RAM with real numbers and collision / 500deduct


shit jeeps are like 130-150 every 6 months state min

they want 175 / 6 month for a 1952 other state min. 



cant find a way to see a break down per car on giecos site
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 16, 2017, 10:00:59 PM
steering in, brake assembly mount started.  looks like the fire wall need some steel to stiffen it up to take a petal assembly.  everything was under the floor in the 52 running gear. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on May 16, 2017, 10:26:42 PM
Monthly $. Basic coverage is very good since I have a personal liability umbrella as well that requires high minimums. I think 250/500/250. Ram comp and collision deductible is either 250 or 500.

Liability $1m umbrella $13
07 ram full coverage $61
98 tdi $42
04 1.8t $38
Gus withdrawn from use $14
Trailer 10k agreed value $8

Lino Reale State Farm in victor. Paul's buddy Steve used to work there, Erik uses him too. Good guy. He knows what I've got and what I do.


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Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: carchameleon on May 17, 2017, 05:37:51 PM
i had multi car discount with geico

i now have state farm (Van Travis in brighton)
sasha and i are on same plan
i still get multi car discount (i'm the only driver on the cj)
don't remember how much but was comparable with geico, i think it was a little better actually

we also have home owners and umbrella coverage and life ins. (plus 3 vehicles)
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: luvmyxj on May 18, 2017, 02:06:20 PM
is this what you mean by farm truck?
https://www.facebook.com/news.ustruckerscom/videos/702423933291015/
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 23, 2017, 12:05:01 AM
3 wheeler?  thats odd and lame.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 23, 2017, 12:07:14 AM
back to work on this guy tonight.


firewall plate made and welded in
hydroboost assembly and petal assembly bolted in
steering res mounted, Hydro lines extended
radiator mocked up


falling together no issues still. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 23, 2017, 04:23:10 PM
ECM on its way back
exhaust ordered
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 23, 2017, 11:25:31 PM
Radiator / fan / trans cooler assembled and mounted. 
lower hose run.  need to order a bushing and another common hose for upper.
intake / filter / maf decided.  need to grab a 3" elbow from lowes tomorrow.
DBW bits pulled from harness
AC compressor removed



should be running this weekend if i can get my shit together and not be distracted by customer work. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 25, 2017, 11:54:48 PM
drove out of shop tonight, no more pushing!

need to tidy up some things but good progress!
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 26, 2017, 10:01:09 AM
ECM came yesterday so i cranked a little on this guy.

hack fired motor with loose wires, started on first try
needed a quick LT1 swap site check to get the DBW to work.  lost power somewhere to TCM module. easy fix.

after initial success and motor fire, mounted ECM, TCM
Cleaned up and wrapped engine harness mods
mounted battery
ran wires for ignition relay
ran wires for fan / fuel pump relay
fixed broken temp senor wires
ran heavy gage starter wire


starts with a key and moves with pulling shifter cable.
brakes and steering seem like there is no pressure but i was getting a lot of foam (had to add 2' of hydro boost hard line, opened that system. 

brake pedal may need to be extended.  steering wheel is BIG
will wait to adjust that to when i get a seat. 


exhaust came.
hopfully the upper radiator hose will come today
need to change oil and hook up trans cooler
fluids
finish wiring
add lights wiring
figure out wipers
mount seat
mount throttle petal

Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on May 26, 2017, 02:30:10 PM
Baller!!


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Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 27, 2017, 12:02:34 AM
cooling system 100% complete
cats and muffler deleted, fresh 3" exhaust and dynomax race bullet installed.
parked for jeep work rest of today. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 27, 2017, 12:24:31 AM
pretty fun
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 27, 2017, 10:56:13 PM
seat mounted
slides and bottom folds up for storage underneath.  comfy and good room
coolant res mounted


needs plates next week :)
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 28, 2017, 10:49:56 PM
gas pedal mounted
brake pedal extended and moved. 


first shop lot burn out check. 

lot test says the cab is noisy and bouncy.  need to get some door latches on order.

needs plates and inspectable items run
wipers will probably be the biggest hassel. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on May 28, 2017, 10:58:54 PM
12v conversion wiper motor is ~$150 :o
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 28, 2017, 11:05:08 PM
gas tank pulled and looks mint.  cant remember if you needed parts from that mark.  filler neck good too. 
seat frame pulled.



tomorrow i plan to hook the trans shift cable to the PTO knobs on the dash  8)
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on May 29, 2017, 12:35:46 AM
I think I have a ram wiper motor. Definitely have a vw wiper motor. I'm sure you have yj stuff but lmk if you want to check those out.


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Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on May 29, 2017, 05:04:04 PM
12' flat bed? $599

https://scranton.craigslist.org/hvo/6115297353.html
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 30, 2017, 09:13:33 AM
meh, ill probably end up building one.  i need closer to 14'


looking for a vintage look also, not Swiss cheese side look
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 30, 2017, 09:36:17 AM
trans shifter done.  its fun.
front hood chevy emblem re mounted
front bumper trim piece mounted
eyed up the front bumper, have a plan
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 30, 2017, 11:00:20 AM
most importantly the mouse house smell is gone with the old bench back set removed!  yesssss
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 30, 2017, 01:49:17 PM
put in for historical quotes to Spencer's contact for the CJ and 52. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M on May 30, 2017, 02:49:17 PM
is this the replacement of shop shovel?
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 30, 2017, 03:09:34 PM
no, just a project.  its 2wd and a flatbed. 


not useful for snowplowing or picking up cars
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 30, 2017, 05:31:12 PM
not bad spencer

130$ for 6 months @100/300/50  total for CJ&52. they also asked to quote ram and ZJ
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: gif on May 30, 2017, 08:47:18 PM

first shop lot burn out check. 


i love that a hall a million mile engine can still do a burnout !
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 30, 2017, 11:26:46 PM
Front bumper mounted
oil change
oil cooler block off plate installed.
tested lights with a battery charger.... they all amazingly work... except one of the signals i may have burned out with 12 volts..... for too long

head lights high and low, fog lights and front signals all light up.  crazy.   
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 31, 2017, 06:12:11 PM
just went over paper work..


i was wrong.  VIN decode says this thing is 1.5ton 1949, not a 1952


Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 01, 2017, 11:28:42 AM
statefarm wants pictures

I will need you to please take the following photos of both historical vehicles and email them to me:
 
Front
Rear
Driver side
Passenger side
Engine
Dash & seats.


to the question:  repairs and restoration was made using only jeep and chevy parts correct?  yes     ::)   
see how that one goes
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on June 01, 2017, 01:31:00 PM
That's an interesting question to ask.
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: luvmyxj on June 01, 2017, 02:49:09 PM
Liar, your bench seat was from a Toyota or something
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 05, 2017, 10:22:35 AM
trans pan filter and gasket changed, new fluid
trans cooler plumbed in

driver door mech freed up
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 05, 2017, 01:22:07 PM
1.5hrs @ DMV strike one

got further than i expected.


rando behind counter says i need another form filled out by past seller since i have not possessed it for over 1 year.   Also claims i need weigh slip, as there are no other 49 chevy pickups registered in NYS right now and it doesnt come up in the vin system
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on June 05, 2017, 02:10:29 PM
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/chevyresto/4953.htm
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 05, 2017, 02:58:04 PM
good info, but not helpful. 
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on June 05, 2017, 04:56:59 PM
They might accept that for weight?
Title: Re: project: FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 05, 2017, 10:56:57 PM
DMV people are idiots


i should have to re weigh because im not changing registration class.  it is a CC truck, but unknown to them status.  i showed him the picture with the plack on the door where i got 6820 from i wrote on all paper work.  supervisor said no good, need weigh slip.  i was stuck anyway with out the 6th form filled out missing MV51B by sellar since i have not had possession more than 1 year.  didnt find that "rule" on the internet. 



has high and low beam head lights, and one tail light hooked up right now.  if i was not 3 beverages in i would have run it down to the CAT scales, but still need paper from sellar so no rush for another lunch trip. 

headlights were also sealed beam 6 volts.  swapped for what was in my CJ7 before i replaced them with new.  all good. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 08, 2017, 09:31:53 AM
drove out to Pavalion and met sellar for last paper work filled out hopefully.  Cool guy with cool projects in his shop.  5 min from JJs place. 
tucked behind apartment till next week.  Needs to get scaled then a DMV trip for plates. 

needs signal lights finished, horn installed, wipers and probably a new battery to be inspect able.  fun to drive!
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on June 08, 2017, 09:38:45 AM
'49 doesn't require signal lights...  8)
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 08, 2017, 09:43:56 AM
i know :)  but i want to put a brake controller in it and such haha

the signal thing i bought has 7 wires   :o  looks confusing, no provisions for 4 way flash either 


this is cool
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-York-1948-1949-Ny-License-Plat-Tags-Plates-Vintage-Classic-Set-Pair-48-49/182389923536?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3Df5b02dea9c504f2e9ea3a706c07ec004%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D272621404148
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on June 08, 2017, 10:20:30 AM
Would this help?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170608/05f685cf7d992ee595905f7f2c867980.jpg)
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 08, 2017, 11:52:22 AM
hmm, i dont think i have a 4 way flasher button on the unit though. 
got this:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/upd-a5007/applications

guess i need this then?
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/upd-5007r/overview/
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: rejeep on June 08, 2017, 12:23:11 PM
smike..
im an expert at these type of turn signal devices..
we stock the universal with 4 way..
you will need to run 2 separate flashers..
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on June 08, 2017, 01:07:47 PM
'49 doesn't require 4-way flashers...
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 08, 2017, 05:12:58 PM
I think 3 post flasher is same as 2 standard flashers like the wiring says.


once again, trying to have this have safe lights and eventually tow with it
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 12, 2017, 05:02:40 PM
https://ithaca.craigslist.org/pts/6139348411.html

gona try to grab this if still available on way to brolite race.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 12, 2017, 05:36:31 PM
learned what a board foot is


looks like 225$ for a 8'x14' flatbed planks

https://syracuse.craigslist.org/mat/6167373311.html
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 14, 2017, 12:26:49 AM
night run down to the scales

4440 lbs


thing freaking rips on the road.  love the 6.0 haha
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 14, 2017, 01:20:30 PM
another 45 minutes wasted at DMV


now they wont accept the vin picture.  fucking insane.


says there form for police to sign.  no form on DMV site, nothing on google.

what a disaster.  supervisor would not OK either. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on June 14, 2017, 03:14:06 PM
thought you had a VIN rubbing.

go to a mobile unit. fuck that main office, they suck.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 14, 2017, 03:29:57 PM
couldnt get a rubbing. 

had to spit on it and take picture.



website says picture, rubbing, or police vin verification is valid.

i can see it clear as day.  i dont understand the issue. 

also forgot my phone with the actual picture that didnt help. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 15, 2017, 12:43:38 AM
three 911 calls later, 4 conversations with a deputy, even sat on bumper and tried to wave down patrol cars like a village idiot with no luck. 

Finally deputy came out, still having no clear solution or procedure.  ended up writting up a full police report that states he acknowleges the vin, vin location, and ran through system with no flags.

better be enough for queen dmv bitch
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 15, 2017, 05:57:55 PM
got plates


non tranferable reg with wrong weight but im gona leave it.

after 4th trip had to turn around, she forgot about a 10 day temp. 



what a fun time that was. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on June 15, 2017, 06:10:17 PM
Non-transferable???
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 15, 2017, 06:16:54 PM
ya, will get mailed a transferable when it gets through albany just like a title would
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on June 15, 2017, 06:43:10 PM
Prob fine.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on June 15, 2017, 10:56:28 PM
Woooooo!!


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Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 15, 2017, 11:59:34 PM
drove home for first work commute duty!  ha


plates and stickers mounted
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 16, 2017, 08:38:16 AM
successfull commute in.


thing is pretty much a rocket ship haha.  love it. 


need to wire wheel the roof to eliminate the rust droppings
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on June 16, 2017, 09:22:00 AM
baller!
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: rejeep on June 16, 2017, 10:18:57 AM
unbelievable you cobbled this together so quickly...

really awesome life for a junk van
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 16, 2017, 11:50:31 AM
should come check it out.

still has a small trans leak- i am fearful something is cracked on the housing, or it just has a torn seal around the NSS selector switch output. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: rejeep on June 16, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
Throw a potion in it....
I think it was a rebuilt trans no?
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 16, 2017, 11:15:53 PM
trans had written on the top 5/15/16 on it

Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 16, 2017, 11:16:49 PM
ill try to investigate first.  it shifts really nice and pulls hard.  i think its just a leak or seal but its a pretty good drip.

im into it a pan gasket and filter so far.  pretty easy to get to on the lift. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 16, 2017, 11:22:06 PM
decided i cant find what i want so building what i want.

48' of 2x5"
72' of 2x3"
24' of 2x4"

11 gage picked up today

stopped at lowes and grabed some treated 4x4s and 2x4s

got the base wood work done tonight.  should have the bed done mocked up if not done ready for planks tomorrow
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: rejeep on June 17, 2017, 09:25:49 AM
Watching this closely....

There is an FC that would look sweet with a stake bed  ::)
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on June 17, 2017, 09:43:14 AM
Watching this closely....

There is an FC that would look sweet with a stake bed  ::)

Me too.

'48 needs something...
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 17, 2017, 11:33:01 PM
better pay attention or you might miss it! 


Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 17, 2017, 11:37:35 PM
im in 600$ in materials and 16hrs labor so far on the flatbed FYI
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: cracker on June 18, 2017, 12:29:48 PM
There is a sawmill near me if you want rough cut. Green Mountain Lumber they are good to work with we have gotten a bunch of stuff from them

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Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 18, 2017, 10:16:48 PM
ok thanks ill give them a call.  JJ has a buddy that has some on hand also to try.  May talk to Erik to see if he has any leads closer. 



got two door latches changed tonight and the new flat bed bolted down to the chassis.
horn wires repaired and horn mounted. 

trying to decided if the horns are 6v or 12 volt   :o
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 19, 2017, 10:42:47 AM
to fill the deck with depot materials:

(11) 2x10 Pressure treated  287$

(11) 2x10 doug fir 173$


frame was built for true 2" thick, but would be fine meh.  need to think about it. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on June 19, 2017, 10:48:02 AM
go with rough sawn(?) wood
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: jaysenodell on June 19, 2017, 10:49:33 AM
go with rough sawn(?) wood
x2


You will not like the short life of the PT or fir. You will destroy it too fast.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 19, 2017, 10:53:47 AM
the more people i talk to about it, sounds like its super expensive, there are warping and shrinkage issues.

guy at work recommended Norther Edge lumber in rushvill ill call them for rough stuff now that i have a spread sheet (just for Nick) and i know what i actually need 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 19, 2017, 10:56:47 AM
this thing will see relatively light duty so i dont think thats really a concern. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 19, 2017, 10:57:37 AM
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Curt-Manufacturing-Cur61052-Folding-Ball-Gooseneck-Hitch-Assembly/48360466?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227036472301&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=70630879849&wl4=pla-158321814769&wl5=9005654&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla_with_promotion&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=48360466&wl13=&veh=sem


need to tie that guy in some how too or a one of the plates from TSC
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: jaysenodell on June 19, 2017, 11:01:33 AM
Comparing rough cut oak to PT or fir is like comparing 572 to an Aveo. Well, maybe a TJ to an Aveo.


Install with grain arched up (end view of grain will be arch not U). Bolt at every cross member. if you use wide boards use 2 bolts. Rough sand with 40g on a floor finisher and hit will tompson's sealer. You need to seal the bottom too. That should solve the warp problem. Plan to seal every couple years.


Think about all the gazillion year old barns made of rough lumber without all the metal structure to support the wood. you should be fine.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: cracker on June 19, 2017, 11:05:31 AM
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Curt-Manufacturing-Cur61052-Folding-Ball-Gooseneck-Hitch-Assembly/48360466?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227036472301&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=70630879849&wl4=pla-158321814769&wl5=9005654&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla_with_promotion&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=48360466&wl13=&veh=sem


need to tie that guy in some how too or a one of the plates from TSC

everyone one of those I have ever seen have resulted in having to use a hammer and prybar to fold/unfold after a few years.  Your application may be a bit better since it probably won't see road salt.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on June 19, 2017, 11:09:34 AM
That's the hitch we welded into my C&M bed.

It has some hinge pin wear and rocks a little bit after a lot of heavy miles. No folding issues at all and it sees salt. I do hit its grease zerk every year-ish.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 19, 2017, 03:17:10 PM
135$ from saw mill guy for white pine.  he doesnt deal with white oak for such a small order and would need a truck load to mill

said to just coat in waste oil once a year
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: jaysenodell on June 19, 2017, 03:32:33 PM
Red oak is a LOT cheaper than white oak and a lor harder than pine. If you aren't going to beat on it pine would work. It will ding and split easily though.


Oil will work if you want to go that way.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 20, 2017, 08:53:13 AM
last 16' of 2x3 put into flat bed so its ready for decking.  just need to finish up a little underside welding next time its on the lift, tie downs and hitches.  have a plan for bumper pull hitch.  still thinking about the goose hitch.  probably worrying too much about structural integrity but have a few ideas and want to have a flush or slightly recessed fold down. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: TrailTamer on June 20, 2017, 09:03:14 AM
You'll pull your black box gooseneck trailer with that van? it's neck can be dropped down that low?
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 20, 2017, 09:09:17 AM
i dont think i would use it to pull the big trailer but i want it to have a goose ball.  4.10 gears and a 6.0 should be more than enough to drag some weight around

the deck is actually about what a normal truck would be.  For my RAM i have the big trailers gooseneck receiver raised as much as possible to get the nose of the trailer down to the truck.  i bet for the 49 it would be fine or need 1 or 2 holes down.  its probably very close to mikes truck deck thats 8" lower than my truck. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: TrailTamer on June 20, 2017, 09:18:47 AM
awesome. Looking forward to see you putting it to work

rolling in at Attica, wheeling events, etc. with style!  8)
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on June 20, 2017, 09:48:55 AM
awesome. Looking forward to see you putting it to work

rolling in at Attica, wheeling events, etc. with style!  8)

Agreed!
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 20, 2017, 10:40:02 PM
gages plumbed and wired in cab

delphi car show tomorrow!
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 20, 2017, 10:49:25 PM
also filler neck tested and takes fuel nicely.  was a little worried. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 20, 2017, 10:59:21 PM
also got a quote for rough cut 2x10 or 2x12 oak at 280$   but 3-4 week lead time :(
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on June 21, 2017, 12:30:34 AM
I'd wait the month for the oak.


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Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 21, 2017, 07:27:17 AM
ya thinking thats what im going to do- just kinda wanted to get it inspected soon and need the rear tires covered. 


failed on trimming down flaps from box van, tossed them.  need to go a different way. 

goose hitch and some other things on the way. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on June 21, 2017, 08:12:38 AM
Throw a sheet of plywood in there for now
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: JWOK on June 21, 2017, 08:53:03 AM
http://www.beachyslumber.com/

I have bought white oak from this guy. Pretty reasonable.

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Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: rejeep on June 21, 2017, 08:54:04 AM
ya thinking thats what im going to do- just kinda wanted to get it inspected soon and need the rear tires covered. 


failed on trimming down flaps from box van, tossed them.  need to go a different way. 

goose hitch and some other things on the way.

want some sweet auto value truck flaps...
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 21, 2017, 10:54:26 AM
http://www.beachyslumber.com/

I have bought white oak from this guy. Pretty reasonable.

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called and left a message, he got back to me in an hour.  white or red oak, 2x10's  (10) 280$

placed an order, should be done next week or so for pickup.  delivery was 95$ so ill just make a run out there when its done 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on June 21, 2017, 11:07:51 AM

want some sweet auto value truck flaps...
I could use a pair ;)


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Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: rejeep on June 21, 2017, 11:42:29 AM
I'll see what I can dig up
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 22, 2017, 12:05:21 AM
car show was fun today!


front signal light pods pulled, modified, 12v sockets installed and remounted.
goose neck hitch showed up
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 22, 2017, 10:16:55 PM
add state farm to the useless fucking companies list


switched CJ7 to non historical, sent me a bill for 287$ every 6 months more

canceled insurance on 49 as of july7, sent refund check. 


nice, thanks for wasting my time and money. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 22, 2017, 10:49:59 PM
submitted an application and pending payment to Hagerty, came out cheap for both CJ7 and '49 at 314 a year even with collision / agreed value. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 23, 2017, 08:58:04 AM
window crank from ebay came in

more rock auto boxes came- i think i couple inner tie rods and rear shocks for 2007 chassis, and wiper blades/arms for the '49
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 25, 2017, 10:50:36 PM
gooseneck hitch and bumper hitch / crash bar welded in.  just need some finishing plates and gussets / rings welded on and ready for deck. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 27, 2017, 12:15:46 AM
missing driver window crank installed
door catch rubber bumpers installed
wiper arms and blades installed

wiper vac actuator torn down, cleaned and re sealed.  it works now but doesnt seem to have enough ass to return the wipers.  seems to have a ton of power one way. might add a spring or look in to electric swaps.  was neat to tear down and reassemble to get working. 

Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 27, 2017, 01:25:56 PM
2nd call and answers given to Hagerty.  All pictures submitted, including "garage kept picture"
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 28, 2017, 12:12:44 AM
two inner tied rods changed
rear shock upper bushings changed since wrong size shocks showed up from RA
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 28, 2017, 10:11:50 AM
Hagerty application process has been long and anoying.  most work and time i have put into insurance.

will try these guy next if it fails again

http://thephoenixinsurance.com/so-you-have-built-your-rat-rod-and-now-you-need-to-know-how-to-protect-it/
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: matt on June 28, 2017, 11:52:16 AM
Be careful on insurance and what they cover, some are only to and from car shows.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on June 28, 2017, 11:54:07 AM
They look interesting.
I'm curious what they'd say about our race cars & trailers.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on June 28, 2017, 11:54:35 AM
Be careful on insurance and what they cover, some are only to and from car shows.
if you click the link, that's one of the major points they mention. limited miles, but NOT restricted miles.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: TrailTamer on June 28, 2017, 12:22:26 PM
I didn't look, is there's even an odometer in the flatshoprat???  ;D
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 28, 2017, 01:32:53 PM
no odometer lol

Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on June 28, 2017, 01:38:20 PM
Hagerty approved for both CJ and 49, effective today!


"Our policy allows you occasional pleasure use with no fixed mileage restrictions**. With Hagerty, you can go for a weekend drive, take your vehicle up to the local ice cream shop or attend unlimited events and cruises.

** Occasional pleasure use does not mean use for daily driving to and from work or school, routine shopping, etc.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 03, 2017, 10:03:01 PM
picked up a load of white oak today.  stopped at Lowe's and for a new circ saw blade and wood bitter sawsall blade.  much beer later and a bit of supervision on chips xj, the deck and headake rack is done. 

test piece sealed with waste oil, not sure it's what I'm looking for.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 05, 2017, 12:57:11 AM
flat bed completed.
all surfaces rolled with waste oil after a couple test pieces provided good results. 
deck screwed down
tail lights and plate mount done
signal lights and running lights wired to blinker / hazard switch- all good
mud flaps mounted


should be ready to inspect with some horn and mirror work.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 06, 2017, 01:19:25 AM
sober guy found the drunk guy forgot the back side of one of the deck boards while it was on the lift tonight- pulled fixed and re attached.
picked up a shifter seal for the trans tonight as that seemed to be the only potential source for trans leak area- pulled NSW and noticed the pressure service port plug finger tight and freshly leaking stream.  easy fix yeah!
did some finish welding in the under side of the bed while it was in the air, fixed some steering line abrasion issues, added a front body mount to support the front clip as it would be on the 49 chassis after finding metal 1/64" away from power steering lines at box in let. 

needs headliner put in or serous clean/prep.  rust falling on head and seat is annoying.  took to lunch today for first real drive with lights and such. 
horn switch and mirrors ordered and on the way. 


bed looks great after a day in the sun to soak up the waste oil. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: rejeep on July 06, 2017, 08:20:16 AM
cheap, yet effective headliner ideas... Dynamat an lots of it.. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on July 06, 2017, 10:50:58 AM
I bought this from LMC:

http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/ca/full.aspx?Page=57

Don't think I'm getting to it anytime soon. Yours if you want it.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 06, 2017, 12:48:40 PM
ha, i never even thought to look to see if you could buy a kit for it


im gona give a go at that wood theme since it will cost me 10$ and a trip to a depot outside of Henrietta that has 1/8" ply in stock.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 06, 2017, 12:51:00 PM
which color mark and do you have the split center like mine or floating center?
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on July 06, 2017, 01:50:40 PM
black with split center
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 07, 2017, 09:07:06 AM
this thing is just too fun. 


threw a hat in for the commute, rust in hair issue solved.   
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2017, 08:38:09 AM
horn wired
3 new mirrors installed
trailer plug wired and installed out back

ready for inspection
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 12, 2017, 01:20:26 PM
dropping off tomorrow for inspection.  probably throw in two floor panels tonight before working on a TJ
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 12, 2017, 03:42:26 PM
http://www.classicparts.com/1947-49-Door-Post-ID-Plate-Chevrolet/productinfo/33-011/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwkZfLBRCzARIsAH3wMKqDCcku8NxXMT62mX6K3n5-c-rYkNrQnYNYKVjnh_auA5ujaWPzQYIaAkcwEALw_wcB# 

ha, 24$ for a vin plate
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 13, 2017, 04:06:39 PM
they wont pass it with cracked door glass  boo
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 13, 2017, 04:41:58 PM
ordered both sides glass for 90$ shipped.  hopefully i can save and carefully remove the required metal surround pieces so i dont have to spend another 150$ a side for assemblies with frames.


hate breaking my rules of no sale with bad glass / bad paper work!   
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on July 13, 2017, 05:38:02 PM
You need to find a different inspection place...
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on July 13, 2017, 09:45:17 PM
seriously.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2017, 12:41:39 AM
floor patches finished
new headliner installed- thanks Mark!
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2017, 05:33:34 PM
Picked up a horse stall Matt from tsc for 40$, pleased with results in the floor of the cab
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2017, 06:19:18 PM
progress
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2017, 08:12:11 PM
way more tolerable to drive now with the floor and roof sealed up! 

the exhaust has to change though its way too loud and rappy at crusing throttle.  sounds good idle and WOT
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on July 15, 2017, 09:27:05 PM
Resonator.


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Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 16, 2017, 05:34:42 PM
10 miles into my buffalo trip today i decided it be wise to stop at the first rest stop and pick up a 4 pack of 1" ratchet straps and throw one over the hood. at 70 she was hopping around a little bit!


runs down the thruway like a dream.   :) 

130 miles clocked today with an ice cream stop with mom. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: rejeep on July 16, 2017, 09:23:33 PM
That poor little van ;)
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 16, 2017, 11:53:40 PM
its probably lovin life GVWing 3-8Klbs less than its past duty
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 17, 2017, 11:38:09 AM
http://www.classicchevy.com/clutch-head-screwdrivers.html 


Clutch head screws-  neat



noticed the windows have them that i need to remove when the glass comes. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on July 17, 2017, 11:39:35 AM
no pic of the business end?
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 17, 2017, 11:51:23 AM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Clutch_head_screw.jpg/800px-Clutch_head_screw.jpg)
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 17, 2017, 11:52:13 AM
(https://cdn3.volusion.com/wckp9.3xkgs/v/vspfiles/photos/VTS-578-2.jpg?1467032579)
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on July 17, 2017, 12:30:52 PM
weird!
I saw a couple options when I searched, I figured that was the most likely.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 17, 2017, 03:45:45 PM
found at least 3 nails and 2 plugs so far in the tires on this unit and the fronts are dry cracking.  probably keep an eye out for some rubber soon!
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 21, 2017, 09:43:25 PM
had to drill out all hardware anyway so no need for the bits..... 

some creative farmer thinking and glass changed both sides. 





next time i think ill spend the 300$ instead of 90$ for the panes in frames already....  or just do what i should have done and bought a truck with good glass.... 


ready for inspection again. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 24, 2017, 10:51:58 AM
broke free the hood latch and with a spring added got it functional so no more flapping hood


scaled with the buggy on the back both tanks full

2760 front axle
8860 rear axle

11620 gross


6.0 loves it.  think i blew the collector gaskets out on 390 hanging though gears though hahah
trip loaded to Attica and back Sunday. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: etk300ex on July 24, 2017, 11:58:13 AM
Sweet machine!
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on July 30, 2017, 11:50:47 PM
transferable reg came from Albany!  official, can sell now haha!
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on August 01, 2017, 09:18:41 AM
passenger header cracked in half 3" up from collector



shit dorman unit
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on August 03, 2017, 11:53:45 AM
interesting on insurance & hauling. careful...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/tow-rigs-trailers/1067162-dodge-wc53-tow-rig-vintage-airstream-18.html#post41519769
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on August 03, 2017, 12:50:43 PM
skimmed but no time to find what ever your talking about.


Im going by how mine is insured through Hagerty:


"We can consider limited towing and hauling up to 20 times per year"

Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: cracker on August 03, 2017, 01:57:35 PM
Quote
The Hagerty agent asked what I was going to be using the truck for and I evidently made the mistake / was honest enough to say "Load up some surfboards and go surfing for the weekend at the beach" and his response was an immediate "Umm, wrong answer, we can't cover you; NO type of hauling is allowed, much less leaving the truck outside overnight away from an enclosed and locked garage; even parking garages are disallowed.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on August 03, 2017, 02:14:08 PM
well, sorry that contradicts the documentation in my policy- its also clearly stated on there website.  no mileage limits either.  my storage conditions were also accepted.

they do require proof of insurance of the other vehicles i own, and evaluated that i have 4 tags and one house hold driver.  its also an agreed value so at 4K, i dont think they are too stringent. 

if for sale id list it for 10-12K however. 

if i would have clamed it to be 45K im sure they would have looked a bit harder at it. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on August 03, 2017, 03:45:18 PM
I bet that's the difference


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Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on August 05, 2017, 12:12:46 AM
my new reg says

"MMH TLECOR"

the line below the weight and fuel/Cyl  and date

??
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on August 05, 2017, 07:44:55 AM
That is suppose to be chassis config and color. No clue what those stand for...
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on August 05, 2017, 09:58:51 PM
chassis color, make, vin in line above line containing weight, engine, cyl, date
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on August 06, 2017, 04:44:12 PM
Duh, you said below, not above. My bad...  :-[

Mine says "MLB LYNA57"
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on August 06, 2017, 11:53:18 PM
JJ had a spare pair of OEM ls headers so i ran out and grabbed them.  swapped out the blown in half passenger side with new gaskets and bolts. was much easier than i was preparing for.

got a 3" walker Muffler put in today, much more tolerable exhaust note and way more derivable now.

also got the van ebrake petal assembly installed and hooked up, working.


ready for next inspection attempt. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on August 09, 2017, 06:31:02 PM
Picked up with a fresh sticker today yes!
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on August 16, 2017, 08:02:12 AM
headlights adjusted.  some new hard ware and springs installed.  much better night pointing to right sky
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on August 20, 2017, 07:56:34 PM
needs a fuel gage :(



$88.10 for 5 gals of fuel on 90.  had a trooper on me in two mins wanting to dispatch tow.  if i could have coasted another 200 yards up hill i could have pulled a Ryan and rolled down to the scottsville rest stop.


boo. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: Wingman on August 20, 2017, 07:58:58 PM
OBD might have fuel level?
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on August 20, 2017, 08:04:29 PM
meh!  only 2 tow assistances at the age of almost 33, it is what it is. 

i knew i was pushing it but thought i was good :) 


needs cruse control, wiper upgrade, and AC first :) 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on August 27, 2017, 11:21:18 PM
150 miles on this unit today, nice drive
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on September 22, 2017, 11:16:33 PM
nothing but fun in this thing.  still giggling when i drive it. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on September 27, 2017, 08:03:12 AM
cruse control looks easy to add

http://www.lt1swap.com/dbw.htm

C100 - A - DK BLUE - Cruise Set/Coast Signal

C100 - L - GRAY - Cruise On Signal

C100 - S - GRAY/BLK - Cruise Resume/Accel Signal

C2 - A10 - LT BLUE - Stop Lamp Supply Voltage/CHMSL (center high mounted stop lamp)
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on October 25, 2017, 09:09:03 AM
from a guy at work that like his parking company ha!
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M on October 25, 2017, 11:17:46 AM
your truck is one of the few vehicles that fit with the yellow/blue plate that NY has now.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on November 06, 2017, 10:08:17 PM
loaded down with a YJ and a full delco crate to scrap tomorrow! doing work!
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on November 21, 2017, 04:34:07 PM
this thing is a machine! 

Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: rejeep on November 22, 2017, 01:06:29 PM
this thing is a machine!

this is awesome
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on November 29, 2017, 10:28:02 AM
earned more of its keep last night,

fun fact, with two engine hoists each hooked to driver and passenger front door latches on center pillars of a 4 door XJ, it balances pretty good to pick up 4' and back the 49 under!  duals hit the lift arms the jeep grill was only 2' from the headake rack 


jeep was on blocks no axles or motor, picked it up for free.
98 4dr missing axles and motor.  good trans/case/interior/title.  lots of treasures buried in it! 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on February 19, 2018, 08:48:50 AM
had some interested buyers this week.  One was supper enthustiac then dropped off face of planet.  Another guy came and lot test drove, seemed not interested.  wanted to put a saw mill on it for in job site work.  He really liked the flat bed but didnt seem interested in the truck condition or detail. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on February 19, 2018, 09:03:17 AM
that would be like a rolling advertisement as a mobile mill. hah
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on February 27, 2018, 02:12:57 PM
first truck i have ever sold that i was sad to see it go. 


SOLD and GONE.
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: SB406 on February 28, 2018, 03:48:10 PM
Hey Mike. Just joined your forum and was perusing this thread. I know truck is gone now, but the quoted info is 100% true on a DBW setup.  I figured this out on my own with the wiring schematics on my MDT.  The mentioned wires go into the TAC module. 2 toggle switches on the dash. It's a dream.

cruse control looks easy to add

http://www.lt1swap.com/dbw.htm

C100 - A - DK BLUE - Cruise Set/Coast Signal

C100 - L - GRAY - Cruise On Signal

C100 - S - GRAY/BLK - Cruise Resume/Accel Signal

C2 - A10 - LT BLUE - Stop Lamp Supply Voltage/CHMSL (center high mounted stop lamp)
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on March 06, 2018, 05:01:26 PM
bah, guy lost transferable reg i signed over

older than 73 you cant replace on line.  i have to go in to DMV or mail bah

got my plates back today by mail though.  guy is cool i guess i wont be a dick. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on March 21, 2018, 06:02:36 PM
new trans reg mailed out and received.  all wrapped up and done. 
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 16, 2018, 10:25:06 PM
back up for sale 8500, includes a clean front clip.  and some "add ons" the new owner customized  :o
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on May 16, 2018, 10:58:56 PM
That didn’t last long.


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Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: cracker on May 17, 2018, 07:50:17 AM
listing??
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on May 17, 2018, 11:51:39 AM
i dont see it listed just sent pics via phone, will post later when less annoying
Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: M4wdFab on August 24, 2018, 10:28:14 AM
this guy called me yesterday to set up a time to look at the two new trucks.  said he sold 5 cars at Carlisle this past show and did very well.  He sold the first 49 to a landscape guy that pulls an excavator every day with it lol

wants to come make a deal for one or both of the new trucks :) 




Title: Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
Post by: mr.mindless on August 24, 2018, 11:09:11 AM
awesome !