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Title: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on February 22, 2015, 09:09:18 PM
48' over all
40' deck
tripple 7k torsion
2007 United
zeibart sprayed / fully undercoated
finished walls/ ceiling.  has some interesting art work and flags up
red floor!
12V switched interior lights
back up lights
RV lock and deadbolt on door
48" door, and extra tall door i dont hit my head on.
rear door seems HD with nice latch cam locks
1 center roof vent
1 piece aluminum roof
exterior and interior seems flawless, i could only find a ding on one of the fenders.
has lots of decals "wing transport" that were removed
reciepts for a new front axle they had put in when they bought it to replace a bent axle, no other tire or axle issues.
cam spring loaded landing gear
nice goose coupler
LED lights
Tapered Nose
8100lbs on the title
new spare
8 or 10 motor cycle brackets that cam to brackets on the floor
(12) 5k tie downs spread on floor
a bunch more less HD tie downs

Seems much nicer than i was expecting- probably use new tires, the rears look to have some dry rot
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: gif on February 22, 2015, 09:15:31 PM
Nice find.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on February 22, 2015, 09:35:58 PM
she's a big girl!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: Wingman on February 22, 2015, 09:56:29 PM
Apparently, I should be the new owner.  It has my name on it...  8)
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: SlvrJK on February 22, 2015, 10:09:59 PM
Nice score!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: rejeep on February 22, 2015, 10:21:50 PM
That's a nice looking trailer.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on February 23, 2015, 08:26:28 AM
Looks sweet.
Congrats
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: etk300ex on February 23, 2015, 08:29:15 AM
nice!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on February 23, 2015, 08:38:48 AM
lots of room for activities
first up after the shop is back unpacked and cleared up for koh-
get a floor plan for shower, bathroom, kitchen sink, propane cook top, Fridge, Fresh and black tanks.

cant wait for warm weather to start!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: tony on February 23, 2015, 08:59:09 AM
Sweet. Miata
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on February 23, 2015, 09:53:04 AM
they race lemons
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on February 24, 2015, 07:54:15 PM
mhhhoooohhahahahahaaa


http://www.ebay.com/itm/121505287537?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on February 24, 2015, 08:09:13 PM
finding 17.5's with a higher speed rating than J (62MPH) may be cost prohibitive
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on February 24, 2015, 09:29:43 PM
LPG cook top 3 burner ordered
8 new ratchet straps ordered
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on February 25, 2015, 11:50:29 AM
this would be sick!

didnt know they were that spendy though lol

http://www.racingjunk.com/Trailer-Parts/182347059/Awning-Canopy-From-48-Enclosed.html
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: etk300ex on February 25, 2015, 12:07:07 PM
Thats a lot of material!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on February 25, 2015, 01:02:44 PM
They can be very expensive.
And that style is a 2-3 man job to assemble.
10 x 20 ez up per car would be alot simpler IMO.

Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: Wingman on February 25, 2015, 02:58:22 PM
Offered to Harry first, but if he declines, I have a 16' roll out canopy for $200...
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on February 26, 2015, 09:00:06 AM
Don't sell the rear one mark. ;)
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: Wingman on February 26, 2015, 06:47:33 PM
This is a different one I had purchased for the BBB...
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on February 26, 2015, 10:27:46 PM
572 fits nice,  tons of room in front and tons of room behind!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on February 27, 2015, 12:41:15 PM
U need a golf cart! ;)
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on February 27, 2015, 02:40:11 PM
i was debating keeping LQ stuff up front to the driver side, so a quad or cart or pit bike could be put up front... to the right in tow
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on March 03, 2015, 09:32:01 AM
8 new ratchet straps came in and an LP cook top
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on March 10, 2015, 10:10:47 PM
started with some ideas today.  i think i have a plan.  I think im going to wish i was a better Finish carpenter, but im going to try any make it not destroy the existing walls and such of the trailer so if it needs to be removed for sale, it wont devalue the trailer too much.

Have to look at roof vent sealing for black tank.

probably get some supplies this weekend and start mocking out the walls. 



trying to decided if i should buy a shower pan or just bend up one out of aluminum
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on March 24, 2015, 11:18:03 AM
adjusted hitch for 4500, trailer leveled out with front dripped down 2 bolt holes on hitch

84" rear door height, 84" interior ceiling hight
81.5" wheel wheel ID


Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on March 24, 2015, 11:18:25 AM
adjusted hitch for 4500, trailer leveled out with front dripped down 2 bolt holes on hitch

84" rear door height, 84" interior ceiling height
81.5" wheel wheel ID
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on March 24, 2015, 11:30:30 AM
pic you posted last night makes that thing look biiiiig - and awesome.

very impressive rig.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on March 24, 2015, 12:05:12 PM
hoping tires are fine for this weekend- havent gotten the chance to spec big boy rubber / wheels yet.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on March 24, 2015, 09:51:03 PM
prepped and half packed.  going to be missing a bench and LQ's

bed and most of gear in.  packing light!

all interior lights and back door work lights work!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on March 31, 2015, 02:47:44 PM
17$ to transfer a plate to this

another 42$ if i want a title



 ;D
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on April 01, 2015, 09:23:28 AM
picked up materials to build out the front frame work.  got all the parts on the floor.


the waste tank i got is not going to work unless it goes under the trailer.  boo.  have to put shitter flange in a different spot (not sure if possible) or get new tank, or really re think the floor plan to something wacky with Toilet in the middle of the trailer with 1 partial floor support beam cut.  Boo.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on April 01, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
other option would be put 9" deep tank below trailer frame, but that only gives me 6" ground clearance.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on April 01, 2015, 10:29:02 AM
i guess one of these to move the hole would do it

http://www.rvpartscenter.com/rv-parts-store/toilets-rv-sanitation/rv-holding-tanks/rv-waste-water-holding-tanks/3-inch-tank-grommet-rv-plumbing.htm
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on April 01, 2015, 12:06:47 PM
my lord id spend less time sourcing rubber and machining my own over talking to these stupid RV places.  worthless twigs
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on April 01, 2015, 12:10:59 PM
Miriam is on the case!  via web chat      :o
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on April 01, 2015, 12:44:07 PM
camping world parts called me and she actually has one in stock.  looks like a trip east tonight after work!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: luvmyxj on April 01, 2015, 12:47:21 PM
I would say you could use a basement ejector toilet and pump it to a tank anywhere on the trailer bit man, they are like a $1k
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: gif on April 01, 2015, 08:53:43 PM
shower pan?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51xMMNFDb0L._SL1200_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-11480-Corner-Plastic-Fitting/dp/B0060HOYWM


Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on April 02, 2015, 01:03:38 AM
i looked around, couldnt find anything i liked.  decided to canobilize one of my military boxes and use it.  want to knock out this thing this weekend.  Ran to camping world and picked up the toilet gromet to move the location.  grabbed two lengths of PVC on the way home.  have sewer elbows left from version 1 of 572 air intake. 


Got a plan and most things placed.  got one wall framed up.  Tomorrow will be commit day drilling 4" hole through trailer floor, and plazma some holes in beams to bring the dump valve up front. 

looking good. so far. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on April 07, 2015, 10:26:13 AM
toilet mounted, sink and cook top in, main counter top in, started on wall board / trim last night.  looking pretty good. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on April 16, 2015, 04:58:20 PM
noticed the other day a fail in my design, erik probabably would have though about.


the trim board im using apparently does not lik temerature changed.  installed when it was cold, now that its warm everything is buckled and looks like crap.  not sure solution.  glue or more screws?
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: luvmyxj on April 16, 2015, 05:46:31 PM
isnt there a actual trim peice for the edges of it like a piece of j channel that allows for expansion and contration without fastners
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on April 16, 2015, 05:56:34 PM
What is the material?
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on April 16, 2015, 11:18:41 PM
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-Thrifty-White-32-sq-ft-Hardboard-Panel-Board-709106/202090193 

ya i have trim and corner pieces, but not really going to help here
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on April 17, 2015, 07:39:17 AM
MDF doesn't typically have the same expansion and contraction characteristics that wood has.
What are you attaching the sheets to? Wood studs or Steel trailer studs? If it's attached to wood studs  it could be an issue of the studs drying out?
Would really need to see it.
I used the same product in my motorcycle race trailer when I finished out the living quaters.
Don't remember any issues screwing to both wood and steel studs throughout the different seasons.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on April 17, 2015, 09:52:19 AM
its wood studs.

expansion is like 1/2" in 3 places over 4', i doubt the studs moved that much.  the aluminum counter top i glued on is fine also.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on April 17, 2015, 10:37:27 AM
Strange.
Hard to speculate with out seeing it.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 04, 2015, 01:39:14 PM
brolite and buggy fit snug and hauls nice. 


need to finish plumbing and bath.  was super nice having a counter and cook top area.  going to work great!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: etk300ex on May 04, 2015, 02:11:50 PM
nice setup fo sho!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 04, 2015, 02:30:12 PM
lost left blinker from half trip there and back.  same side KOH trip blew fuse.  fuse checked good.

unsure of cause.  will check out when pig tail gets changed and longer. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 05, 2015, 11:44:51 AM
5500 watts at 120 v   :o


http://www.ebay.com/itm/SHOWER-HEAD-INSTANT-HOT-WATER-HEATER-ELECTRIC-120V/300630039919?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D30251%26meid%3D87fba35ac0e0446d83ef2c65665c8e0f%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D171746947755&rt=nc 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 05, 2015, 11:56:20 AM
this with a flu

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FASTAR-8L-LPG-Propane-Instant-Tankless-Hot-Water-Heater-Boiler-2GPM-Household-/221317525777?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33878d7111 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 05, 2015, 04:32:03 PM
More parts on the way.

(2) roof vents, smoked covers
(2) 24"x22" slider tinted windows with screens and trim rings
LPG on demand hot water heater, with external exhaust, fully automatic and Dbattery ignition
14' trailer light pigtail cord
trailer light plug in truck check tool
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on May 05, 2015, 05:46:21 PM

LPG on demand hot water heater, with external exhaust, fully automatic and Dbattery ignition

That sounds very cool!
Would be interested in details, the 5gal in the popup failed pressure test. Not sure where it popped, but it’s toast somewhere.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 05, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
i was down to two in my cart.  opted for the more spendy one that had a 5yr warranty, no shut of timer, and a flow switch as opposed to a pressure switch for htr enable. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261845674876

i got the smaller unit than gif i believe
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on May 05, 2015, 07:05:33 PM
Thanks. Seems cool, not sure I have the height in the popup. I’ll have to check it out.


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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 06, 2015, 12:51:25 AM
didnt know the popup had a shower / need for hot water
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on May 06, 2015, 08:37:20 AM
Would be nice for sink. Also Has an outdoor shower already set up on the front corner.


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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: dubt on May 06, 2015, 09:03:20 AM
i opened the link for the heater and now all ads on facebook show ebay tankless hot water heaters.....
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 06, 2015, 09:27:56 AM
i bet you are happy you checked that box you agree to FB terms
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M on May 06, 2015, 10:22:33 AM
i opened the link for the heater and now all ads on facebook show ebay tankless hot water heaters.....


what ads?

adblock FTW
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 18, 2015, 09:46:07 AM
In the zero time i have this week id like to get my RV toilet and cold water hooked up at a minimum this week. 

last night before dark i mounted the waste dump valve and scrounged up some parts from the emergency shop heater off 20lb propane tank for the cook top.  works awesome!

water pump, hoses, clamps in hand.  need to stop at lowes to grab whatever talks to a sink and toilet fixture. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on May 18, 2015, 11:46:11 AM
Looked real good mike.
Nice set up.
Definitely keep in mind the fresh water drain for winter.

I'd run aluminum angle for all the door openings and that should take care of the wall board issues
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 21, 2015, 12:57:51 AM
took a hole saw to my 48' single piece roof  :-[


now have fully functioning toilet, cold water to sink, and propane cook top.  vents and plumbing finished up, 12 battery mounted, LP tank mounted.

Next phase for next trip will be hot water addition and shower installed, and walls finished.  then storage and cabinet doors ect. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on May 21, 2015, 08:08:18 AM
Nice.
Toilet will be nice.
You'll never be able to go back now that you are entering the dark side.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 26, 2015, 10:26:00 AM
ya buddy!

http://www.boarwheel.com/evron-single-19-5x6/


just found these thats like half cost of rickson for still a 5K wheel
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 26, 2015, 10:30:38 AM
have to call about lug / hub centric status


since i changed 4 tires on this thing this weekend, noted it has 9/16" studs, and a big hub bore that could be used for hub centric easily. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 26, 2015, 10:47:18 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-OEM-Lug-Nuts-9-16-Factory-Style-Flat-Face-32-/221782773907?hash=item33a3489093&vxp=mtr 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 26, 2015, 10:53:52 AM
225/70R19.5 = 31.9X8.86R19.5
Diameter = 31.9"Width = 8.86"Wheel = 19.5"Sidewall = 6.2"Circumference = 100.2"Revs/Mile = 632.5

235/80R16 = 30.8X9.25R16
Diameter = 30.8"Width = 9.25"Wheel = 16"Sidewall = 7.4"Circumference = 96.7"Revs/Mile = 655.1
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on May 26, 2015, 01:57:19 PM
9/16 studs ftw.

Found when buying my replacement caliper that my disk hubs could be had with 9/16 studs as well as the 1/2 I bought. Sad fail.


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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 26, 2015, 05:46:16 PM
just called the wheel place, the 19.5 singles are lug centric with a 60 degree cone machined in them-  guy actually picked up phone new everything i needed to know lol 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on June 02, 2015, 11:46:16 AM
rolling on dumpster tires this weekend!  whoooooo!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: etk300ex on June 02, 2015, 12:22:03 PM
getting back to your roots!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on June 08, 2015, 02:11:28 PM
no tires issues this weekend rolling with one car.  have too look at fuel receipts but looks like 9mpg at 66mph

19.5 wheels ordered, just confirmed shipment via phone.  should be Fedex freight later this week.  plan to service bearings with wheel swap.   

man it is nice with running water and a flushing toilet!  cook top works great to!  i have used like 2" of water in my 40 gallon tank that was half full.  going to try and finish the hot water, shower, and walls for IN trip, but might be a stretch. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on June 08, 2015, 05:57:40 PM
Sweet
Did you get a real mattress yet?


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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on June 08, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
not for home or trailer no. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: KingtheZJ on June 08, 2015, 06:13:55 PM
I have some mattresses kicking around. What are you looking for?
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: etk300ex on June 09, 2015, 08:57:14 AM
you are not still sleeping on that fucking futon with your back?
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on June 09, 2015, 09:14:09 AM
I thought you went shopping for a real mattress for home at least after your back issues started. Shame on you! Haha.


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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on June 09, 2015, 02:17:23 PM
FedEx Freight Priority
Total shipment weight   525 lbs / 238.14 kgs



(9) HD wheels on the way!

baffled by free shipping
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M on June 09, 2015, 03:38:59 PM
not for home or trailer no.

damn man, get a mattress.

I bought Queen size of this mattress for my guest room. I was IMPRESSED how good the mattress was for the price.

http://amzn.com/B005A4OP8Y

So cheap that you should just give it a shot.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on June 09, 2015, 05:35:25 PM
We just put a BJ'S mattress in our RV.
Set a I think. 300.00
It's awesome.
You'll probably be amazed on how much your back issue could improve

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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on June 11, 2015, 11:09:34 PM
picked up the new 19.5 wheels. 

very impressed and they look like a high quality and finish wheel.  Bolt through valve stems included. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: jacel861 on June 12, 2015, 10:10:52 AM
8 used tires on my truck rolling out within the hour mike. Sorry so slow, covering for 3 people this week.  If any have any leaks or issues let me know, I'll snag some more. Not the most meat I've had on a set of used,  but at least 4-5 useable 32" before wear bars are hit.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on June 12, 2015, 10:16:54 AM
great thanks! Jared! 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on June 12, 2015, 11:20:42 AM
fawesome!!!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on June 13, 2015, 10:56:34 PM
rolling heavy!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on June 14, 2015, 09:21:17 AM
Cool Beans

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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on June 25, 2015, 12:26:39 AM
No issues with new tires on way down.   Need to take 1/4 turn out of both sides fronhubst axle running hubs.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on July 01, 2015, 11:41:56 AM
was miles from loosing one of these new wheels. 

Made a mental note to check lugs at some point and forgot.  had two spindle nuts that were a bit tight and warm, that i losened in IN.


Found 2 studs gone and loose lugs on one tire.  Checked all and most took 3/4 of a turn to snug up. 



oooops.   Will replace all studs on loose one, and make sure they get checked again in 100 miles. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: jacel861 on July 01, 2015, 12:34:00 PM
New/reconditioned wheels seem to be the most tempremenal with lug nuts. We include a line on all our invoices to check them but don't emphasize it enough in my opinion.  We've had more than a couple customers call complaining that they had some loosen and blamed us.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on July 01, 2015, 01:13:26 PM
i know better

completely my own fault here.   glad i got lucky

Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on July 02, 2015, 12:47:42 PM
did some research this morning and determined that 14bolt wheel studs we used in the buggies are very similar to what dexter runs.

pulled hub and changed out 3 studs.  should be good to go.  knurl was a little loose but worst case if they spin there is pleanty of room to grab then cut.  Ill order 8 new ones for next time. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on July 02, 2015, 01:10:16 PM
I bought one 9/16 stud for my hubs. Need to see what I can match it up to and drill out my hubs when they are off for axle replacement.


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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on July 13, 2015, 05:41:17 PM
NEAT

so i got a letter today from the 19.5 wheel company.  said they have identified a manufacturing error on the batch of wheels i recieved that failed SAE testing for holding lug nut torque.  They want me to check lug torque every 300 miles, and within 45 days they will contact me to replace the wheels.

maybe it wasnt my fault ha 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on July 13, 2015, 05:47:37 PM
well I'll be damned.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: jacel861 on July 13, 2015, 10:01:26 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2015, 01:26:11 PM
Trying to identify window locations. 

id like a cross breeze up near sleeping, but weary of water problems if i put them on the sides of the taper nose.


have have (2)  24x30 sliders with screens and interior trim rings
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on July 15, 2015, 04:42:22 PM
I assume 24 is width?
Might be too wide but rain guards from rear door on a crew cab pickup work well for keeping most of the rain out.


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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2015, 04:51:00 PM
actually i just checked they are 24" wide x 22" tall
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on July 15, 2015, 10:03:17 PM
Sounds like you'll be cutting studs and welding in headers and sills. What's yours stud spacing? 16 o/c

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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2015, 11:31:34 PM
16" up to the goose attic, 12" over the goose. 


i was doing some reading- the pro way is to pull interior pannels and weld in headers before you cut the skin.  not sure my plan.  i was hoping to cut a hole and take in or screw in some headers slid into the hole and up. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on July 16, 2015, 08:26:43 AM
Either way... Geocel sealant is your firend. (don't buy cheap shit from HF) A Quality/ Flexible sealant is the only thing you should use.
Caulk everything!


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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on September 14, 2015, 01:29:23 PM
successful first dump station visit. 

Exit 5 on 390 the small TA has an RV spot.  a little tight to get the truck in, but was able to do the deed and pull through around the pumps and out. 

bought the supper hose with caps, and also got a jet thing that hooks to water supply and waste hose screws to flush out.  worked awesome.  no mess no smell. 

man i could see the horror that could occur with an error.  that 4" flow has some serous mass and volume when you pull that valve and dump a 42 gallon tank.  wow.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on September 14, 2015, 01:31:53 PM
shower was great too this weekend.  need to add the on demand heater!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on October 19, 2015, 09:41:49 AM
looks like this week still should be good for water lines.  should be last use before KOH
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on November 16, 2015, 08:55:26 AM
Trailer waste tank emptied, waste valve changed and relocated
trailer bearings inspected, lubed, lugs and air checked- good for KOH travel
water tank emptied, all filled and purged with RV anti freeze minus shower run.  Plan to do hot water tank install this week.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on November 16, 2015, 09:01:13 AM
Nice!


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on November 16, 2015, 09:12:48 AM
no zero degree trailer prep this year!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on November 16, 2015, 10:04:16 AM
That's always the plan, hopefully nothing unforeseen this year.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on November 16, 2015, 10:05:10 AM
loading and strapping after the party and rolling as planned!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on November 17, 2015, 11:26:22 AM
finished up winter prep, and grabbed 2 more jugs of RV anti freeze to do it again when we are ready to leave the lake bed

still need to add in hot water heater, but that can be 95% done and then just cut in and connected.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on November 17, 2015, 12:49:30 PM
Might want to look into heat pads for the tanks.
Simple install.
Would be some added safety factor for cold nights in the desert

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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on November 17, 2015, 12:53:11 PM
everything is inside, and if its that cold- id have the MR buddy on any way. 

my system is pretty simple, and literally takes 5$ and 5 minutes to winterize 100%
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: JEEPWERX on November 17, 2015, 12:55:06 PM
http://www.annodindustries.com/shop/ (http://www.annodindustries.com/shop/)
We have tank pads but nothing on the pipes or fittings.
Planning to make a few addons

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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on November 17, 2015, 01:11:22 PM
im not going to go nuts on the quarters project stage 2 untill next spring.  the shower has to unbolt out for rolling tool box storage since we are taking the Kabota too. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on November 21, 2015, 05:02:22 PM
8' more of overhead shelving installed
on demand hot water heater installed
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on November 23, 2015, 01:11:16 PM
Parked.

Looks like i just beat the cold temps with the winter prep!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on January 12, 2016, 10:58:04 PM
snuck in some saturday cleaning and packing with the nice weather.  looks like winter out here and glad i did. 


ready to head WEST....
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on January 18, 2016, 03:09:53 AM
picked up some power and air for the trailer today
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on February 15, 2016, 03:53:12 PM
over KOH, my honda crapped out after 4 hours of run time.  it would not run without the choke on and then finally started to loose power and shut down.

One of the nights i finally had some time drained and totally disassembled the Carb and brake cleaned everything.  Found no issues, all looked brand new and clear.  reassembled and it was fine for the week.  must have gotten a grain of sand in it. 

New trailer heater was good.  Honda is kinda loud to run a heater-  had ear plugs in all week though from wind noise on the lake bed.


Trailer is not sand proof everything is sandy.

Water line used for hot water not rated for hot- had to swap to trans cooler line and took two repairs to get it working ok.  Need a mixer valve at the shower head.  Too hard to find a happy place between luke warm / cold and burning hot 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on April 23, 2016, 01:28:35 AM
replumbed shower line and made new head.  trailer de sand if fied and sleeping area mopped out. 

trailer 90% packed minus matts car and food / clothes. 

water system flushed and filled. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on April 25, 2016, 04:20:24 PM
wow ebay sellar and USPS win

ordered Saturday morning RV pump on EBAY, said it shipped Sat at 5pm, USPS says it was delivered this morning from IL

not bad!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 20, 2016, 09:20:35 AM
new water pump installed last weekend at Rolling W.

Hot shower was nice.




Upgraded the toolbox in this unit since on the way home it came unstrapped and fell over.  tweeked both upper and lower tool boxes, took out a fire extinguisher, and broke off the pumper nipple on my helmet :(    transfered over everything to the new box last night. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: CJ on May 20, 2016, 09:51:46 AM
Not fun!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 20, 2016, 10:02:18 AM
husky boxes are not tip over and roll around trailer proof!   


this one i left the wheels off and it will be bolted to the wall / floor, or strapped with side brackets that wont tweak the top when tight like the last one.  boo. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 23, 2016, 04:35:31 PM
just under 2k for 6 wheel disk brakes, bearings, minus line hardware. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on May 23, 2016, 09:31:37 PM
Sounds about right. Don’t. Miss the 9/16 wheel stud option


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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 23, 2016, 10:19:54 PM
im not sure the brakes annoy me enough to spend that.  Def would be nice.  I think this trailer is a keeper for a few more years than my usual ryan expectancy though.  the 4500 brakes really do work compared to a 3/4 or 1 ton though
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 26, 2016, 10:57:01 AM
had to cut 4" off the back of the ranger to fit in the trailer with new tool box.  only bedsides!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 30, 2016, 07:59:18 PM
broken vent finally changed, new tool box secured.  Fueled and hooked for this weekneds race. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on August 02, 2016, 04:39:15 PM
(6) AKIHUB-865-7-1-K Trailer Idler Hub Assembly for 7,000-lb Axles - 8 on 6-1/2 - AKIHUB-865-7-1-K
https://www.etrailer.com/p-AKIHUB-865-7-1-K.html

(3) K2R79 Kodiak Disc Brake Kit - 13" Rotor - 8 on 6-1/2 - Raw Finish - 9/16" Bolts - 7,000 lbs - K2R79
https://www.etrailer.com/p-K2R79.html

(1) HydraStar Electric Over Hydraulic Actuator for Disc Brakes - 1,600 psi - HBA16
https://www.etrailer.com/p-HBA16.html
 


look right mike?
you basically make your axles idler axles, and put rotors and calipers on them?




Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on August 02, 2016, 05:08:47 PM
looks better than what I have. the non-integrated hub/rotor wasn't a thing or wasn't popular so I have integrated hubs and rotors just like the drums.

that looks like it should be complete minus lines.

FWIW I went with the Dexter actuator and it's been solid. no hydrostar experience.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on August 02, 2016, 05:21:07 PM
OK ill check that out. 


ya i was thinking just running mostly hardline, with short softs like our buggies have.  My pump ill mount inside the trailer, so i think the cheaper non marine one is ok. 

Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on August 08, 2016, 09:12:57 AM
need to fix a small propane leak- copper compression stuff just not trailer worthy and getting beatup


shower working 100% and great, so nice.  zero prep.  step in and turn valve on and hot shower. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on October 17, 2016, 10:47:29 AM
west list

hub service
propane leak
winterize?
tank service
organize clear out shelves.   getting out of hand....
add water fill
Vents?/windows?
new mattress
heat?
Interior LED
rear LED?
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on October 17, 2016, 11:58:00 AM
House deep cycle battery

12v-12v charger or just a BIG diode so you can’t kill the truck from the trailer?


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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on October 17, 2016, 12:01:06 PM
ya i need to do some re deigne of the trailer.  interior lights suck and a few other problems
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on October 20, 2016, 07:14:08 PM
rain is discouraging.


thought about pulling buggy out.  looks like gore night wheeling was a little more muddy than i remembered  ::)

deff road hard put away wet. 



Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on October 20, 2016, 07:14:36 PM
o, ordered 2 backup RV pumps for trailer stock
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: TrailTamer on October 20, 2016, 08:20:02 PM
House deep cycle battery

12v-12v charger or just a BIG diode so you can’t kill the truck from the trailer?


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How much amp we're talking about? No more than 20-30amp? Find an ignition-on source and use that to control a relay and have the relay in the trailer power aux circuit
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on October 20, 2016, 08:53:31 PM
rain is discouraging.


amen.

I got as far as changing into work clothes and going outside. Then I decided I didn't want to deal with the rain and/or trying to work on the Bro in the trailer.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on October 20, 2016, 10:08:30 PM
ya i am sure there are 10 or more ways to fix my issue, all of which i have not completed.  looking like trailer upgrades will wait till next spring. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on October 24, 2016, 09:57:32 AM
6 hubs repacked and checked
entire cargo area of trailer stripped, purged, cleaned, and reorganized.  need to grab more clear totes from lowes. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on November 27, 2016, 06:24:23 PM
shelves rebuilt and re filled.  packed with 572 and bro both in race read condition! 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on November 28, 2016, 11:48:39 AM
spent a good hour tightening all the interior wall and ceiling screws in this thing.  there are a lot of screws in a 48' trailer.  95% of them loose, a few fallen out. 

ordered a water fill/vent port for freshwater tank. 

ordered replacement door holder opener thing. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: gif on November 28, 2016, 03:30:30 PM
spent a good hour tightening all the interior wall and ceiling screws in this thing.  there are a lot of screws in a 48' trailer.  95% of them loose, a few fallen out. 

ordered a water fill/vent port for freshwater tank. 

ordered replacement door holder opener thing.

i remember tightening the screws when i painted mine.    made me think how bad the job must suck for the guy that builds these trailers every day for 8 hours a day...
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on May 21, 2017, 09:07:56 PM
that center driver Michelin finally let go 3/4s of the way to NH this weekend.  it put up a good fight for the last 10K  sweet blue smoke rooster and it was so hot had to get gloves to get it off the hub.  about an 8 minute tire change not bad. 

trailer continues to do work.  many of the screws inside and out continue to be found loose or falling out.  not sure solution with out massive labor intensive operations. 

Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on June 02, 2017, 10:52:44 AM
Loaded for this weekend
rear tail wiring fixed (havent had a left rear bright for a few trips)
spare tire mark and I changed back to 40 psi bah

insured with comp and collision now. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on June 02, 2017, 12:14:22 PM
I should add that to my enclosed.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: KingtheZJ on June 02, 2017, 12:20:28 PM


insured with comp and collision now.

just curious, from where?
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on June 02, 2017, 12:24:55 PM
State Farm writes mine. lowboy is overcovered agreed value $10k for like $100/yr. That's from back when it really was worth 5-7. I guess I should make it worth that again soon.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on June 02, 2017, 01:28:39 PM
state farm

90$ / 6 months
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: Harrison on June 05, 2017, 08:46:11 AM
What's the fresh water capacity on this thing?

Looking at something like this for mine:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/RV-camper-trailer-42-GALLON-FRESH-WATER-TANK-NEW-FDA-approved-free-shipping-/371144236747?hash=item5669eb9ecb%3Am%3AmZAdc81uunPdIzwGzGJL0ng&_trkparms=pageci%253A22748ae2-49e9-11e7-9274-74dbd1803aaa%257Cparentrq%253A783188c015c0a99be1631475fff9ea5b%257Ciid%253A1
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on June 05, 2017, 09:12:02 AM
i think i have that exact tank from ebay, 42 gallons.

get the nice RV fill and vent too for external fill
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2017, 10:55:13 AM
Mike dropped of a 225 for me- i noticed its an F at 36XX lbs.  my Gs are all 39XX lbs rating.


looked at my last scale ticket and it was 21050 on the trailer pad     :o

i am thinking i should stick to Gs lol 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on July 11, 2017, 11:13:00 AM
I don't know what's on my trailer, but all my loose tires were LR F
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: Harrison on July 11, 2017, 02:27:53 PM
What's the situation with water fill ports for these things? I am seeing city fill ports and gravity fill ports. Some with vents, some with check valves.

I just want garden hose thread into the tank and I am thinking there needs to be some kind of vent for both filling and using water. Not sure if I would ever really need a check valve.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2017, 02:39:52 PM
you want gravity fill with vent

this what i have

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RV-Camper-Trailer-Round-Fresh-Water-Gravity-Fill-Hatch-Water-Tank-Spout-BLACK-/272585338521?hash=item3f775a2e99:g:PrEAAOSwMgdXydYR&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2017, 02:41:31 PM
no garden hose thread just jam it in to fill.  i found one that had the same 1.25" fill and got clear hose in between tank and fill   
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: Harrison on July 11, 2017, 02:45:44 PM
Does water come out of the vent when it's full with that setup then?
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2017, 03:01:10 PM
ya, there is a 1/2" hose that i have hooked to the vent port and the top of of the tank.  my tank had 4 nipples.  top fill, top vent, bottom pump flood, bottom drain. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on July 11, 2017, 04:03:12 PM
things with check valves AND threaded connections are for "city water hookups" that go on the pressure side of the pump, they're for when you have full hookup and can just use the hose pressure to run your system and ignore the pump and your tank.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: Harrison on July 11, 2017, 04:56:05 PM
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on September 14, 2017, 09:52:38 AM
replaced about 25 missing exterior screws on this thing Sunday.

two beers of staring at the RV windows i bought last year, and still have no plan that im happy with.  new tool box configuration will kill what i had planned where to cut them in. 

hoping to spend some time on this guy next week to make some updates for the moab trip.  the new shop leaf blower is great for cleaning out the trailer! 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on October 30, 2017, 08:05:16 PM
caught a roof leak last week.  had noticed a buckled seem on the one piece roof in Moab.

used the sweet 49 for a work plat form and made the repair tonight with roof goo and a few screws. 
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on November 06, 2017, 11:16:46 PM
winterized with 3 gallons of -75F


Title: The 48' black box
Post by: Harrison on November 07, 2017, 12:10:26 PM
What’s your procedure on winterizing?

Empty water tank as much as possible with pump
Dump some RV antifreeze into the tank
Pump through the system till pink comes out

? ? ?

I am going to pull the propane unit off the wall and store indoors for the winter
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on November 07, 2017, 01:09:08 PM
Yeah that’s about it.




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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M on November 07, 2017, 01:38:50 PM
pump til pink comes out sink, toilet faucet, toilet, shower, and outdoor spigot (if you have one). Basically every line where water would be flowing needs to be pink.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: cracker on November 07, 2017, 02:37:53 PM
first check to see if your pump has a bypass, where you can pump directly from a jug instead of just dumping into your tank.  You use a lot less this way, i.e. my 38ft camper only uses 2 gallons and it has hot and cold lines that run all the way to a sink back, a mid kitchen sink, front bathroom sink, shower and toilet and outside shower connection.
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: Harrison on November 07, 2017, 05:54:07 PM
Set trailer in yard where pump pickup port was lowest point relative to level ground. Opened faucet till no water came out. Took water heater off the wall. Dumped in 4 gal of pink stuff and turned everything back on till solid pink came out. Done!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on January 11, 2018, 11:37:13 PM
looks like the miles have caught up to my tires. 

2 new G steers showed up for the truck yesterday, considering just ordering 6 or 8 more at 158$ delivered for a speed rated G 225 thats a china copy of an HSR
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: mr.mindless on January 11, 2018, 11:40:54 PM
Hope they’re round!


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Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on January 12, 2018, 09:39:35 AM
they look pretty good


also found another G steer thats way more china for 114$ a tire shipped that has good load and speed ratings. 

just sick of trying to round up used ones and have been having bad luck finding any!
Title: Re: The 48' black box
Post by: M4wdFab on January 16, 2018, 05:31:15 PM
6 new tires, new generator, new mattress ordered. 

wheel bearings prepped last weekend when it was 59 out