Post by: M on December 23, 2014, 03:34:08 PM
Only issue I have with it is that it always squats so bad. I had a heavy load over the weekend and I could tell that the bumpstops were hitting the axle when I cross over bumpy bridges. Other than that, the truck was fantastic.
Since I plan on keeping my truck for a long time, I want to put on air bags in the rear axle. Will this help with the leveling issue? does anyone have experience with air suspension?
Post by: Wingman on December 23, 2014, 04:00:36 PM
Post by: M on December 23, 2014, 04:52:48 PM
I've also put heavy pallets in the bed too, so I think airbags would be my best solution.
Post by: mr.mindless on December 23, 2014, 04:57:49 PM
for heavy tongue weight a WD hitch will actually improve handling as well though. It's closer to a solution than a bandaid - as long as you are not close to max on the trailer axle since it's going to put more weight back on them.
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 23, 2014, 08:28:58 PM
The new GM trucks seem to have 0 rake from the factory, how much does it squat with just weight in the bed and no trailer ?
Post by: M on December 24, 2014, 12:20:45 AM
Erik - My truck is leveled, but the squat is so much I can feel it hitting the bumpstops when I go over big bumps (such as expansion joints in older bridges).
With a moderately heavy load in the bed (300-400# or so), it looks like it squats a bit, but thats really mostly because the truck is leveled.
Post by: M4wdFab on December 24, 2014, 12:28:03 AM
Post by: M on December 24, 2014, 12:29:44 AM
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 24, 2014, 09:20:16 AM
400# is nothing, and in older trucks with more factory rake it wasn't as much of an issue even with similar suspension components.
I'd look into the prices of air bag systems also.
I'd say you could find some leveling kits for under 400 clams.
When you said you were loaded I was expecting much more weight.
I haul more than 400 lbs in nails every day.
just busting ballshttp://www.airliftcompany.com/shop/59565/ (http://www.airliftcompany.com/shop/59565/)
Nice simple kit with remote fill / deflate chuck.
Or upgrade later and add on board compressor.
Post by: KingtheZJ on December 24, 2014, 10:03:39 AM
http://bb.m4wdfabrications.com/index.php?topic=1308.msg33826#msg33826
I have the Firestone kit in my truck and like it.
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 24, 2014, 05:55:02 PM
Wow Gif That's pretty Gangster!
LOL
When did you build that? Pre J truck I assume?
Post by: orange anchor on December 26, 2014, 07:18:24 AM
Post by: gif on December 27, 2014, 12:25:00 PM
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/24/f6ceb9f30962b50dfaff334ede07d554.jpg)
Wow Gif That's pretty Gangster!
LOL
When did you build that? Pre J truck I assume?
ha, yes pre J truck, post CJ build.
Mazda 2200 extended cab stuffed chevy 350/700r4
channeled 4", firestone 2500 air bags, front / back / side / side ... P I M P !
in this pic you can see the start of the J truck in the garage.
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/jeepgif/lowrider/lowrider018.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/jeepgif/media/lowrider/lowrider018.jpg.html)
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/jeepgif/lowrider/lowrider023.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/jeepgif/media/lowrider/lowrider023.jpg.html)
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/jeepgif/lowrider/lowrider014.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/jeepgif/media/lowrider/lowrider014.jpg.html)
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 27, 2014, 01:46:20 PM
But what... no flat screen TV in the bed? LOL
Wish I could have seen that truck.
Looks cool
Post by: gif on December 27, 2014, 04:15:14 PM
Awesome
But what... no flat screen TV in the bed? LOL
Wish I could have seen that truck.
Looks cool
that was its second life
was a SPL sound off vehicle before that.
Post by: Harrison on December 27, 2014, 06:07:49 PM
I bought the HF weight distributing hitch today with some Christmas cash. $173 with coupon. Not 100% confident I have it dialed in, but it really did make a huge difference in how the truck handled. Had it set so I still had a tiny bit of rake. Sort of a pain to get the second bar hooked up, but worth the hassle for long tows.
Post by: etk300ex on December 27, 2014, 06:43:21 PM
Post by: etk300ex on December 27, 2014, 06:46:51 PM
Post by: Harrison on December 27, 2014, 08:00:41 PM
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 28, 2014, 09:37:51 AM
Like Eric said should be easier.
Could be just different steel characteristics from one bar to the other?
Hey as long as it works right.
I ended up making a longer pry bar for mine to make it easier.
Post by: M on December 29, 2014, 04:05:56 PM
Yea but with no rake in the suspension it's going to bottom out quick with little load in the bed.
400# is nothing, and in older trucks with more factory rake it wasn't as much of an issue even with similar suspension components.
I'd look into the prices of air bag systems also.
I'd say you could find some leveling kits for under 400 clams.
When you said you were loaded I was expecting much more weight.
I haul more than 400 lbs in nails every day.
http://www.airliftcompany.com/shop/59565/ (http://www.airliftcompany.com/shop/59565/)
Nice simple kit with remote fill / deflate chuck.
Or upgrade later and add on board compressor.
You are right. I was way off with 400# estimate
Here's a pic of my truck with 160 bags of Rubberific mulch when I did my house landscaping (that's maybe 1,250# in the bed). It wasn't so bad squat-wise considering it is leveled.
I am thinking I was really overloaded with the trailer at the tongue. Oh well.
Trailer had 2x canon imagerunner 7095, 150 lcds, 50 printers, 50 desktop scanners, 125 phones, cables from everything so it had a lot of weight... the 7095 units were sitting in the very front of the trailer.
10mpg towing from VA Beach to GA at approx 65mph. Love my truck. Probably will go for a WD hitch.
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 29, 2014, 08:45:57 PM
Post by: M on December 29, 2014, 08:57:17 PM
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after:
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closeup:
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Yes, I love it. Should last us for a LONG TIME. I dont want to do yardwork a lot, would rather just cut grass.
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 30, 2014, 01:16:18 PM
I'd do it. As long as it's non toxic for the pups.
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 30, 2014, 01:16:26 PM
Post by: rejeep on December 30, 2014, 01:32:09 PM
Post by: rejeep on December 30, 2014, 01:33:04 PM
would look that much worse here :(
Post by: cracker on December 30, 2014, 02:06:07 PM
Post by: CJ on December 30, 2014, 05:19:28 PM
Post by: M on December 30, 2014, 11:44:21 PM
I used some in a small space under part of my kids swingset at the old house. It was expensive. HomeDepot has it about $7 per .8cu foot bag http://www.homedepot.com/p/Vigoro-0-8-cu-ft-Rubber-Mulch-in-Cedar-Red-HDVCRMN8CB/203714941
Yours is chunky shredded. I looked at it and didn't like it for my house. For a playground, it'd be perfect.
the ones I bought are $10 a bag and they look like real shredded mulch. I didnt pay $10 a bag though! I found a 10% off lowes coupon code online, plus another 50 off 200 deal, plus another discount - dont remember it now. It came to about $8 a bag
http://www.lowes.com/pd_326448-25888-LRM8RD_0__?productId=3199903&Ntt=rubberific+red&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3Drubberific%2Bred&facetInfo=
Post by: M on December 30, 2014, 11:45:16 PM
Looks great BTW
thank you.