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Title: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 28, 2014, 07:54:33 PM
Now has 504a miles on it.

Picked up some sweet floor mats!

Seems to have an led light out under driver mirror.

Needs nys sticker and tags
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Wingman on September 28, 2014, 08:10:36 PM
Sweet truck for sure!
Title: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Harrison on September 28, 2014, 08:31:07 PM
Sweet, sweet ride. Congrats
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on September 28, 2014, 10:19:20 PM
Noice! Too stock for now but it's still early :)


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on September 28, 2014, 10:22:53 PM
congrats
for lack of any social medial other than instagram....  any pics?

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Harrison on September 28, 2014, 10:56:24 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/09/29/u5u8e5e8.jpg)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on September 28, 2014, 11:24:42 PM
That's a beautiful truck.
Use in good health.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on September 29, 2014, 08:09:34 AM
Looks very familiar.  LOL. Congrats Mike. Can't wait to experience this beast in person.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: luvmyxj on September 29, 2014, 08:26:15 AM
i forgot to tell you i dryhumped your steering wheel and in the law of nature this truck is now mine. very jealous of the setup
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 29, 2014, 08:31:14 AM
haha

ya its too nice for me, but it will do.

push to talk on the steering wheel to your phone. 

sat radio is nice. 

power mirrors are SOOOO nice

manual seats, rubber floors.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: tony on September 29, 2014, 09:31:49 AM
How is the mirrors with trailer.  Need towing mirrors?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 29, 2014, 10:05:00 AM
they are tow mirrors. they flip up


haven't towed with it yet.  probably read the manual to see what the break in says
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on September 29, 2014, 10:08:33 AM
My manual said not to use cruise control or stay at constant speeds, no towing until 3k
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 29, 2014, 10:20:21 AM
warm it up, work it.  no prolonged idle.



Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 29, 2014, 10:35:28 AM
towing section says no towing first 500miles, first 500miles of towing 50mph or less and no full throttle starts lol 


DEF tank is 9 gallons on C&C
12 quart oil system
5.7 gallons coolant system

ATF+4 in the trans
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Wingman on September 29, 2014, 10:38:01 AM
ATF+4 in the trans

ATF in a manual?  :o
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 29, 2014, 10:41:08 AM
thats what it says
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: jacel86 on September 29, 2014, 10:54:00 AM
Dodge is revising a lot of it's manual tranny recommendations. First time I called for the jeep(years ago) it was some silly expensive stuff only they carried. Called again last week and they said atf4 now.
Power mirrors are a lifesaver at ATM's!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M on September 29, 2014, 11:14:09 AM
What are your plans with this regarding upgrades and mods?

I'm sure you're going to add a light bar or two :)

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 29, 2014, 11:54:15 AM
a couple things i dont like with the flat bed mounting / wiring

needs LED white back up / plate lights
forward trailer pigtail is zipscrewed mounted and looks a little hack
pin wood between bed and frame should be swapped for PT
going to add some tool boxes, probably just buy two new matching ones

first and for most needs seat covers.  the truck is high and i really have to roll out of it.  They wont last long with my filth. 

a 50" bar will end up on the top of the headake rack, maybe a 10" or 24" facing back also


havent decided yet if it has as much ass as my 24valve.  its hard to tell with the 4.44 gears

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M on September 29, 2014, 12:00:35 PM
Wouldn't a 50" bar on the headache rack be ineffective because the cab roof would block some of the light's path?  (can't really tell in the pic how high the headache rack is above the cab)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Nick on September 29, 2014, 12:29:19 PM
That is one sweet ride! 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on September 29, 2014, 01:37:25 PM
Stupid 4.44s.

You'll run circles around me maneuvering!!!


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Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on September 29, 2014, 01:43:15 PM

Dodge is revising a lot of it's manual tranny recommendations. First time I called for the jeep(years ago) it was some silly expensive stuff only they carried. Called again last week and they said atf4 now.
Power mirrors are a lifesaver at ATM's!

I wouldn't run atf4 in the trans. It's a g56, right?

I would (and have, myself) swap that out to Gorilla Juice. Seems to help keep em alive, looks like atf with Lucas in it. Could probably throw a quart of Lucas in there and I wouldn't feel too bad about it. Not sure what sort of trans warranty you're looking at, probably best to run through that with factory suggested fill just in case something happens. Seems a shame to give it the extra wear in the  mean time but I guess it is what it is.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Ryan on September 29, 2014, 01:44:38 PM
Changing fluids may void warranty.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 29, 2014, 01:46:02 PM
the heads this thing turns is pretty funny.

sweet lunch commuter.  not so sweet to find a parking space at wegmans lol 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: SlvrJK on September 29, 2014, 05:05:21 PM
the heads this thing turns is pretty funny.

sweet lunch commuter.  not so sweet to find a parking space at wegmans lol

win
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on September 29, 2014, 05:19:11 PM
lots of middle aged men?   ;D
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: tony on September 29, 2014, 05:48:40 PM
lots of middle aged men?   ;D
Haha
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 29, 2014, 06:59:32 PM
pulling duty, ran her first load

6 MTRs lay down on this with pleanty of room to go :) 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on September 30, 2014, 08:37:03 AM
Jared... Please find this man some new G Rated tires so I can buy his Continentals.
:)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 30, 2014, 08:49:59 AM
id be looking for 7 HDR 245's to swap my 500 mile 225's to Erik and give him 1000 more pounds on his butt
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on September 30, 2014, 05:10:59 PM
;)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: jacel86 on September 30, 2014, 06:23:06 PM
Hmmmm.....just spotted this. I'll quote out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 02, 2014, 08:48:57 AM
i cant find seat covers for this thing.

the carhartt ones only go to 2009 and i think they look like shit


some $$ and afraid they wont work, but these are probably what i want

http://www.autoaccessoriesgarage.com/Seat-Covers/CalTrend-Leather-Seat-Covers/_Item/_353807903?utm_source=google&utm_medium=Seat-Covers&utm_campaign=GoogleProducts&utm_term=CalTrend-Leather-Seat-Covers&gclid=CjwKEAjw77OhBRCJ7Onfp_HNtwYSJACZqHAWjFHgwnIiam6Uswl1Gi8SsHmHOxjqKCuTW17HPL30jRoCXOnw_wcB 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 02, 2014, 09:05:42 AM
If you're spending real money get Wet Okle and don't look back.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 02, 2014, 09:29:13 AM
they dont recognize RAM 4500's
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 02, 2014, 09:37:09 AM
no difference in seats between 3500-4500-5500 I'm sure. Probably same in 2500 too.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on October 02, 2014, 09:46:07 AM
I know you have AC.. but neoprene feels funny sometimes..  :o
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 02, 2014, 09:48:24 AM
id like vinyl or fake leather really
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on October 02, 2014, 12:04:57 PM
I'd agree Prob same seats.
Neoprene is for SCUBA.
the car hart ones are Prob HD
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 02, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
carhartts are sweet!  Website shows all the different seat configurations for the 3500

http://www.global-accessories.com/products/index.phtml?prod_id=seatsaver_carhartt&cust_id=carhartt&SYSTEM=storelink&SESSIONID=notpassed&ACTION=
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 02, 2014, 12:13:55 PM
If you're spending real money get Wet Okle and don't look back.


Tapatalking in traffic

My tech has these for his duramax.  He hates them with a dog, i dont like them either now ehat i know what they are.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 02, 2014, 12:41:03 PM
someone at work brought up a good point, PA dealer should have charged me PA tax
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: cracker on October 02, 2014, 12:45:51 PM
someone at work brought up a good point, PA dealer should have charged me PA tax

no vehicles are taxed at registration time.. I had to pay NY tax on my camper I bought in NC.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on October 02, 2014, 12:58:35 PM
Yes you will have to pay NY at time of registration.
I had my buddy buy my 2000 yamaha R6 from a local Philadelphia dealer for me and I bought his from lanes yamaha in Watkins Glen. Paid cash
No sales tax paid because we never registered them for Street use.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 02, 2014, 02:54:45 PM
carhartts are sweet!  Website shows all the different seat configurations for the 3500

http://www.global-accessories.com/products/index.phtml?prod_id=seatsaver_carhartt&cust_id=carhartt&SYSTEM=storelink&SESSIONID=notpassed&ACTION=

none of the front or rear details for 3500 match my truck
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 02, 2014, 03:10:28 PM
what kind of sweet seats does this machine have?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 02, 2014, 03:21:54 PM
different size head rests in the back with folding bench.  40/20/40 up front but no cup holders in center consol

$1255 from Ram for leather installed!

http://www.mopar.com/part/LTHROCS1TI?s=363167&i=4310237 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on October 02, 2014, 03:26:47 PM
if you get me a PN I can see what I can do..
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 02, 2014, 04:38:11 PM
Tuscany Leather!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 03, 2014, 09:05:46 AM
got a sweet cover at sears for the interium. 

almost got dodge fake leather ones at advance until i realized they were just top covers and not full wrap arounds
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: matt on October 03, 2014, 12:32:26 PM
When are the rock sliders getting welded up for this hawg?

They save on seat wear too.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 04, 2014, 10:10:22 PM
goose ball works :)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 05, 2014, 09:50:31 PM
exhaust brake is pretty sweet. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on October 05, 2014, 09:54:09 PM
Is it a true exhaust brake?
If so... make sure you lubricate it often. Ours in the Kodiak is not working from lack of maintenance.  Need to remove and attempt rebuild before KOH.
PAC Brake makes a super exhaust brake lube.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 05, 2014, 09:56:14 PM
i have no idea what it is,

i hit the button once for manual, twice for auto.

it goes BBBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBBF and i slow down
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on October 05, 2014, 09:59:42 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 05, 2014, 10:09:03 PM
Engineering terms!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 05, 2014, 10:14:21 PM
It's the variable geometry turbo. So it moves ALL the time. Only extended idling will eff it up
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on October 06, 2014, 07:37:16 AM
O I C
Good and Bad I suppose.
You have any experience with exhaust brake unit Mike?
Was planning to remove mine before AOAA but I bought a Ranger instead.
Seems like I can just disassemble clean lube and reinstall
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 06, 2014, 09:01:19 AM
FYI. a 15$ seat cover gets you 4 days before the seams blow! 


Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 06, 2014, 09:48:35 AM
Shocking.



I had a Banks Brake on the Dumpbus. Never loobed it. No issues. Was used and I resold it.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on October 06, 2014, 11:38:24 AM
But used often is Prob the difference.
An 2005 RV that had 13k on the odometer in 2013 was definitely a candidate for some LUBE.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 09, 2014, 01:30:58 PM
scaled at 9940lbs with me in it and +half tank diesel (30/52gal)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Nick on October 09, 2014, 01:43:27 PM
It would be so nice having one of those cat scales close by like you got.  Firsss Vay wee vay
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 09, 2014, 01:50:32 PM
scrap yard scale free
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 09, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
I just discovered last weekend there is one that's on 24/7 at the sour kraut factory.  Me, chase, bike, bike trailer = 240.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 12, 2014, 05:43:16 PM
So, how did the truck do over the weekend?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 12, 2014, 08:55:33 PM
im still getting back use to towing with a 6 speed, some of the hills killed me and were user error.  havent had a clutch in 2 years haha. 

its pretty good.  i was hopping for more power, but its 20mph faster on big hills than the 4300, and holds medium hills with cruse at 67 fine.   

dissapointed half a tank of DEF only lasted 1300 miles. 

we figured 29k lbs and 8 mpg this weekend
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 12, 2014, 08:56:19 PM
and i LOVE the exhaust brake.  its the best thing since slice bread
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 12, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
looks like 8-900$ for a plug in non detectable tuner, no effect on re gen cycles / warranty
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on October 12, 2014, 10:49:44 PM
Sounds high but non detected is a selling point I've never heard pf
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on October 12, 2014, 10:57:42 PM
Sale on 55 gal drums of def ;D
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 12, 2014, 11:05:06 PM
my tuner for my 24 valve was 750, worth every penny
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 12, 2014, 11:18:52 PM
I wonder if it's an option to try first by ask the dealer if they can reprogram on your truck with a program that's used in 2014 Ram 3500 with AISIN auto trans? If I recall correctly on some forums some guys with the manual, they had dealer to reprogram them to bring the power level up to what's found in trucks with the AISIN trans.

2014 Ram 3500 with AISIN     385 hp, 850 ft-tq
2014 Ram 4500 with manual  320 hp, 650 ft-tq
2014 Ram 4500 with AISIN       325 hp, 750 ft-tq

If the dealer will do that for you, that'll pretty much means a 65 hp, 200 ft-tq increase for you!

Just an idea if it'll work to have the dealer to reprogram your truck and not void the warranty and possibly cheaper, or free if you can talk haha.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 12, 2014, 11:21:11 PM
probably do this one

http://www.xtremediesel.com/edge-products-31006-juice-with-attitude-cs-monitor.aspx 


gona research DEF delete stuff too, but not excited about turning wrenches on my new truck.  rather just plug and p(l)ay
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 12, 2014, 11:26:31 PM
When I was riding with you, I noticed that interesting how it's max boost typically around 19 psi, spikes to 20-21psi sometime. It's just that it don't sounds much. I routinely hit 40 psi of boost in my truck, if I really want to push, I can get 50 psi out of mine, I'm sure it don't like it haha.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: wnyjpgy on October 13, 2014, 08:12:22 AM
Smike,

Do a search on "torque management", the new 12 cummins I had with the G56 had the same feeling that your going through.

Ram basically has some software that de-tunes the engine (boost and whatever else) to keep the trans and clutch alive since they are only rated for 650 ft/lbs.

Most programmers are able to deactivate it, but I just wanted to make you aware of it before your tuner purchase.

The silver 12 Cummins truck I had was a 800 ft/lbs truck and it ran and pulled pretty decent.

I still like the 01 cummins I sold you, and if I bought another it would be a 01-07 with a manual.

On a side note I've been towing the JK with a A class motorhome I bought earlier this summer.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 13, 2014, 09:56:34 AM
Chassis Cab   2010–present   5.7 L (345 cu in) Hemi V8 (3500 Only)                                       383 hp (286 kW)   400 lb·ft (540 N·m)
                        2010–2012   6.7 L (408 cu in)Cummins diesel I6                                       305 hp (227 kW)   610 lb·ft (830 N·m)
                        2013–           6.7 L (408 cu in)Cummins diesel I6  (6-Speed Manual)               320 hp (240 kW)   650 lb·ft (880 N·m)
                        2013–           6.7 L (408 cu in)Cummins diesel I6 (Aisin AS69RC Automatic)   325 hp (242 kW)   750 lb·ft (1,020 N·m)

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 13, 2014, 01:17:24 PM
Arie, how much is a 55 gal drum of def by the way?

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 13, 2014, 01:24:51 PM
 Flying J I-90 Exit 48A Pembroke NY, US $2.899 / gal  8 lanes with bulk pumps
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 13, 2014, 01:55:59 PM
http://www.walmart.com/ip/24-Aluminum-Truck-Under-body-Truck-Tool-Box-Tote-Trailer-Flat-Bed-Rail-RV-ATV/29608049 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 13, 2014, 04:22:12 PM
RAM4500  9940lbs
RAM2500  7500lbs
572           4700lbs
wedge       5500lbs

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 13, 2014, 04:50:04 PM
Will you get to use up the 55 gal quickly enough?

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/tow-rigs-trailers/1875434-def-shelf-life.html#post28205402
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 13, 2014, 04:56:19 PM
interesting.  i hadent thought of that. 

looks like the bulk supply pumps on the way to see my mom once in a while will do it
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 13, 2014, 04:59:23 PM
i guess walmart stocks a 2.5 gal jug for 12$

i have a 9 gallon tank bah
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: jacel86 on October 13, 2014, 05:48:48 PM
Kinda surprised you went through that much def. That's borderline medium duty usage. I'll usually get 7-8000 per 2.5 gallon jug. Towing it'll drop to 4-5000.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 13, 2014, 07:39:35 PM
I think there is alot of saftey in the gage.  Just put in 5 gals and it went from below zero to past 100%.  Threw another jug in tool box.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 14, 2014, 09:44:22 AM
Nick says his truck runs 30psi boost and its the 800 FT LB auto version, must be a 2013?  9.5mpg at 23K lbs

he runs the juice tuner, and said it didnt do much for the truck.  We are going to try his tuner on my truck
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Nick on October 14, 2014, 02:26:30 PM
Ohhhh boy two nicks now!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 14, 2014, 03:26:34 PM
were you confused?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 14, 2014, 11:17:50 PM
added a tool box and a 50" LED bar to this guy last night 8)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on October 15, 2014, 07:20:40 AM
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 15, 2014, 09:43:39 AM
these are sharp

http://www.realtruck.com/go-industries-diamond-tread-side-steps/R184026P2013Y2735MA.html 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 15, 2014, 10:01:59 AM
you driving it in the salt, or parking it? I see SO MANY running boards that are just _trashed_
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 15, 2014, 10:49:57 AM
realistically i cant see how it wont get driven in the winter, not sure yet.   bah
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 15, 2014, 10:54:30 AM
I'd aim for some aluminum or stainless, then...
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 15, 2014, 10:55:31 AM
Go get that puppy undercoated and rustproofed
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M on October 15, 2014, 10:58:27 AM
added a tool box and a 50" LED bar to this guy last night 8)

(http://www.velosterturbo.org/forum/images/smilies/this_thread_is_worthless_without_pics.gif)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 15, 2014, 12:50:11 PM
I had Ziebart to undercoat my truck. I'll definitely have it done before your truck have any chance to start rusting. Go with their "rust protection" plan. They'll undercoat, spray inside rocker panels, and more and free reapply annually for lifetime of the truck and if you have it done when brand new, they'll fix the rust if it appears at free of charge due to that they didn't prevent rust.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on October 15, 2014, 12:56:20 PM
Do it.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 16, 2014, 09:51:57 AM
put in an email RFQ to ziebart.

Light bar isn't going to work where i mounted it.  jet engine louder than hell @ 50mph+
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on October 16, 2014, 09:54:11 AM
put in an email RFQ to ziebart.

Light bar isn't going to work where i mounted it.  jet engine louder than hell @ 50mph+

we sell an amazing undercoat that puts the Zbart stuff to shame and you do it yourself so your not trust your rig to a HS kid...
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 16, 2014, 10:00:43 AM
put in an email RFQ to ziebart.

Go there and talk to a salesmen, you can be down to 1/4 price in about 15 minutes of himming and hawing.  They're just like a shitty car dealer lol.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 16, 2014, 10:35:44 AM
The only reason to zeibart is the warranty. Even if diy is better it doesn't offer that, or can it?


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 16, 2014, 11:04:11 AM
I have zero faith that Ziebart would ever actually hold up that warranty. 

But as far as their work goes, 7yrs later my truck is not rusting anywhere.  Compared to Brains 08 ram over the summer, his has some significant rust going underneath and body.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 16, 2014, 11:22:10 AM
how much should i be looking to spend at ziebart eric?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 16, 2014, 11:26:10 AM
I should DIY my Ram. Too bad there's no lift around to lift it and get under it. bah.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 16, 2014, 11:29:24 AM
wedge trailer works good for cummins truck inspections as bret and i found out!  even good for short guys!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 16, 2014, 11:31:44 AM
I paid just over $600 for the "rust protection" for my truck. I probably should've negotiated.

I think $600 is well spent because I can see it a very messy job and not only that, they reapply for free annually for lifetime.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 16, 2014, 11:32:00 AM
And it's Brett! Ha
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 16, 2014, 11:52:58 AM
I think $600 is well spent because I can see it a very messy job and not only that, they reapply for free annually for lifetime.
This is a good point.


I paid $700 for rust proofing, undercoating, diamond gloss, and alarm w/remote start 7 yrs ago when they had a 2 bay garage on Lyell.  (I also paid $100 bucks for reapplication every year until I went to the Henrietta location that informed me this was a free service ::))

I would expect $6-700 for rust proofing and undercoating.  Last I knew they had "new car" packages where you could get the whole 9 yards; interior protection, rain X, diamond gloss, undercoat, rust protections, piant chip protection, and probably some other non-sense stuff for like $1000. 

Looking back I would of got the paint chip protection on the hood.  They put some kind of clear protective film on it.  Mine is quite dinged up now.

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 16, 2014, 11:58:47 AM
I believe there is a place called Krown that does rust protection too, I'd check them out too.  I dont know of anywhere else that does it?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 16, 2014, 12:28:49 PM
https://www.krown.com/united-states/new-york/rochester/west-henrietta/
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: CJ on October 16, 2014, 12:30:18 PM
Sell the truck in 3 years and buy a new one
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: cracker on October 16, 2014, 12:36:04 PM
I should DIY my Ram. Too bad there's no lift around to lift it and get under it. bah.

I can possibly offer Shea's drive on lift in Honeoye for quick tasks.  Its just gotta be at a time I can be there.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 20, 2014, 09:37:06 AM
this thing got about 11 MPG on Tway to buffalo and back indicated.  boo.

thought it was 14 ish when troy drove it home.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 20, 2014, 09:40:32 AM
I was getting 7-8 for the first few thousand miles  :o
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 20, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
Left my truck as Ziebart Canidaigua Friday after work for yearly inspection.  They did a real nice job.  It appears they re-coated the whole thing, no over spray anywhere underneath.  No bs sales calls either.  Picked it up Sunday keys locked in, bill for $0.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 20, 2014, 12:20:24 PM
was it annoying / PITA to get to bolts and stuff when changing brakes / fluids?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 20, 2014, 12:23:02 PM
Nah. It's a rubbery compound.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 20, 2014, 12:32:38 PM
Yeah it scrapes off.  I cant think of any normally serviceable parts they hit anyways.  Mostly just the frame rails, cross braces, underneath of body, rear axle to the end of tubes, no engine/pan's, driveshafts, or exhaust parts
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 20, 2014, 01:06:50 PM
only places I really WORRY about rust is from inside the doors, inside the rockers.... frame rails get crusty after many many years but it takes decades for them to really weaken. They do anything in those areas?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on October 20, 2014, 01:11:28 PM
waxoil for inside....
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 20, 2014, 01:18:42 PM
Get me a quote? :)


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on October 20, 2014, 01:35:43 PM
ive been wanting to buy a waxoil gun, but couldn't justify...

if we have people interested I would price it out..
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 20, 2014, 04:14:11 PM
ziebart guys are worse than a used car sales man haha

no numbers on phone, would not send me a price list- wants me to come in today or tomorrow
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 20, 2014, 04:25:44 PM
I told you it is 100% used car salesman experience.  Numbers are as high as they gauge you will pay lol.

Did you look into Krown at all?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 21, 2014, 12:32:01 AM
no




www.rambodybuilder.com is a useless no go site.  says click link and there is no places to click.  i need the instructions on how to hook up my aux switch pannel.  bah
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 21, 2014, 08:01:13 AM
The stuff is there. I have all the info for my truck and that's where I got it. It's just the most broken website ever.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: orange anchor on October 21, 2014, 08:14:43 AM
Smike there is a new Ziebart in Canandaigua just opened on 332 behind old Rose City Glass. lot of nice new big trucks going through every day from the big three, for what that is worth. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on October 21, 2014, 08:17:51 AM
call larry at custom truck
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 21, 2014, 12:20:52 PM
got a txt today from the guy i spoke to yesterday

349 for undercoat with lifetime respray



Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 21, 2014, 12:31:08 PM
Not bad
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on October 21, 2014, 01:12:55 PM
That's chesp.
Mark more said 1500.00 if I'm not mistaken
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 21, 2014, 03:24:03 PM
he to nice, they stuck it to him!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 21, 2014, 03:41:58 PM
eric did they drill holes in your doors and such?


to mike...

http://www.ehow.com/about_6518706_ziebart-rust-proofing_.html 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 21, 2014, 04:19:15 PM
yep
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 22, 2014, 12:18:53 AM
really?!

wow
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: orange anchor on October 22, 2014, 07:19:52 AM
Mike what if you pre prep truck and remove door liners and such so they can spray inside the doors?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 22, 2014, 09:21:05 AM

Fo realz

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/22/c7fc00e40022ba57fdcca51748989d1b.jpg)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 22, 2014, 11:13:41 AM
jeff, they drill holes and spray in with wands i think do do the same effect. 

how they keep that shit off windows is magic to me.


pulling door liners would be no good every time it gets inspected. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: orange anchor on October 22, 2014, 12:04:43 PM
Lets be honest for $349 divided by (lifetime of your ownership) max 8 visits plus initial install.  Do you think they really inspect shit year after year.  My opion would be to get the best job done the first time before the salt flys after that it is what it is salt.   Our only luck this year is salt is expensive so they are promising to use less.   Also how do they maintain weep holes in bottom of doors and rockers?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 22, 2014, 12:13:18 PM
ziebart says warranty is transferable with the truck to different owners also haha


I look at it as a trade in help in 6 years
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 22, 2014, 12:24:53 PM
Yeah my truck have that same plugs.

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on October 22, 2014, 01:14:54 PM
They inspect it, I've set traps lol
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 22, 2014, 02:46:02 PM
4300$ later, 2.5 hours time off of work, this guy has NY plates.   >:(


i put 12K on the registration instead of 16K 

that place puzzles me.  had to get a weight slip with vin number on it.  9720lbs
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 27, 2014, 10:23:20 AM
trying to figure if there is an easy solution to make an extension for the black trailer.  needs about 10" i believe.  ball is deep in the deck, and goose coupler is all the way into the trailer to keep nose of trailer down.  two things not helping lol 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: KingtheZJ on October 27, 2014, 10:45:40 AM
switch it to a 5th wheel?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 27, 2014, 11:45:00 AM
100$ on a coupler and a few hours welding / steel is about all im willing to spend since this really will be a one or two time use. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 27, 2014, 12:57:16 PM
Where's the ball in relation to rear axle? Shorten corners of deck or shift hitch back!


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 27, 2014, 12:58:44 PM
not cutting my new truck up to fit a trailer i dont want anyway


solution that just dawned on me, just swap trailers with matt for hauling
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: gif on October 27, 2014, 03:31:21 PM
not cutting my new truck up to fit a trailer i dont want anyway


solution that just dawned on me, just swap trailers with matt for hauling

I thought he had a bent axle.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 27, 2014, 03:52:29 PM
we bent them back, just cant hold 2 full 4800lb buggies, and hasen't be used since for that since
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: luvmyxj on October 27, 2014, 11:06:35 PM
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/4734622867.html
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 27, 2014, 11:49:40 PM
no price hack wonder

inquired
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on October 28, 2014, 07:42:27 AM
That truck is sweet
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Ryan on October 28, 2014, 08:20:22 AM
Are you getting a tuner/programmer for this guy?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 28, 2014, 08:46:22 AM
still have to meet up with nick and swap his to my truck

but ya
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 28, 2014, 09:21:47 AM
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/4734622867.html

can't make air brakes just work. woud need to get swapped back to something like tandem 10k. leave that conversion to be the first trailer behind somebody's new semi.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 28, 2014, 09:39:56 AM
i dont see any hoses.  hmmm.


looks like a pile anyway.  i txt, he retuned a call. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: cracker on October 28, 2014, 10:02:24 AM
pict 4 shows glad hands on front of trailer.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 28, 2014, 11:38:48 AM
Yeah I see the gladhands. Hoses stay on the tractor.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 04, 2014, 12:23:44 AM
Hooked light bar to OE aux switch pannel

put the first scratches in it from work pants leaning over driver fender  >:(



Appears to have a frame rail fuel filter of some sort.  did some crawling underneath it running wires.  stupid big everything. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 09, 2014, 07:04:55 PM
32lbs boost > 22lbs boost   8)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 10, 2014, 08:13:00 AM
rausch numbers
trip down cruse set to 72  7.7mpg
trip back cruse set to 62  8.9mpg

less power than my 01' on 901 / 54 hills, holds everything else fine, 55 comming back up turkey hill.
buggy on wedge.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Nick on November 10, 2014, 08:32:15 AM
It's crazy that with all the new technology they are not leaps and bounds over the old Vin diesels
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 10, 2014, 08:38:06 AM
It is, just in a different way.  Stupid emissions laws
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 10, 2014, 11:30:22 AM
o_O


Mileage seems right for an emissions truck, but speed is unexpected to me with your silly deep gears.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on November 10, 2014, 07:04:23 PM
rausch numbers
trip down cruse set to 72  7.7mpg
trip back cruse set to 62  8.9mpg

less power than my 01' on 901 / 54 hills, holds everything else fine, 55 comming back up turkey hill.
buggy on wedge.
I hate turkey hill on the way home.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 11, 2014, 01:02:18 PM
265's are gona look sweeeeet and get the hamster wheel spin down a little 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 11, 2014, 01:12:54 PM
and Tall Truck gets taller.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 11, 2014, 01:17:09 PM
yup
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 25, 2014, 08:35:50 PM
searched long an hard, cant find a better under bed option in 36" length than these:  on sale now too.  gona try to find a couple in stock here to buffalo this weekend since TSC gets a freight charge for home shipping.


http://www.tractorsupply.com/product__10151_-1_10001_226 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 25, 2014, 08:36:22 PM
need lockable and steel...
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on November 26, 2014, 09:13:55 AM
Did you try larry at custom truck?
I'm sure price will be more but maybe you can get exactly what you want?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 26, 2014, 09:26:23 AM
im too cheap to bother

dealer was 450 a side installed

the tsc box is exactly what i want, online they have poly boxes for cheaper, but i like the steel, and weldable in
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: luvmyxj on November 26, 2014, 10:18:28 AM
imo  id buy aluminum over steel for a underbody, those rust and fall apart at the piano hinge
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 26, 2014, 10:25:28 AM
Stainless or aluminum is my preference. I see how "well" my bed itself isn't lasting, and it doesn't excite me to have a 3-4 year lifespan on $400+ of toolboxes.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 26, 2014, 10:25:55 AM
Wait.

IMO opinion? what?

pin number
atm machine
vin number
nic card

GAH!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: luvmyxj on November 26, 2014, 11:17:52 AM
lol.redacted

granted both options are a little moe $, but my truck box is 15 y/o
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 26, 2014, 11:40:04 AM
found these for black, 250$ free shipping

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tradesman-Aluminum-Underbody-Box/17469515#about 

id like 36" though still looking
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Ryan on November 26, 2014, 11:43:12 AM
Just saw this on for the Edge

The Juice with Attitude for the 6.7L Dodge Cummins is designed specifically for a standard truck platform and does not work on the chassis cab version.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 26, 2014, 11:45:50 AM
bingo- walmart listed manf, and they make a 36" lockable

http://bestchoiceproducts.com/products/36-aluminum-truck-under-body-tool-box-trailer-rv-tool-storage-box-under-bed
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 26, 2014, 11:48:49 AM
Just saw this on for the Edge

The Juice with Attitude for the 6.7L Dodge Cummins is designed specifically for a standard truck platform and does not work on the chassis cab version.

works fine on my truck.... maybe for 2015 new software locks not yet broken?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 26, 2014, 12:42:14 PM
$129 for aluminum 36"?? Where the hell was this when I was shopping?

Will double check my bed for fitment and see if they have 18/24" for behind. Sweet.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 26, 2014, 12:49:19 PM
almost seems too good to be true. want to do some searching on them to make sure they're not all fraudy...
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 26, 2014, 12:50:50 PM
sears and newegg lists them.


cant find anyplace that says they are instock though.  i suspected fraud also. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M on November 26, 2014, 01:23:02 PM
they're $20-80ea depending on qty from alibaba so $150 doesnt seem ridiculously low...

Here's one example:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/36-Aluminum-Underbody-Storge-Truck-Tool_1326123619.html

edit: here you go - right from the source - http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Aluminum-underbody-tool-boxes-ATB3-644_486777048.html
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 26, 2014, 01:29:00 PM
cool maybe Ryan can whole sale 10 or something lol
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Ryan on November 26, 2014, 03:13:41 PM
Minimum order is 50.

I have a container leaving China in a couple weeks...... ;D
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 03, 2014, 01:08:17 PM
265 import with better speed rating

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Tires-265-70R19-5-H-16PR-TL-140-138M-BSW-Truck-Radial-Tire-26570195-785-/201232146179?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Tires&hash=item2eda5edf03&vxp=mtr 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 03, 2014, 05:14:54 PM
bingo- walmart listed manf, and they make a 36" lockable

http://bestchoiceproducts.com/products/36-aluminum-truck-under-body-tool-box-trailer-rv-tool-storage-box-under-bed

out of stock 2-4 weeks
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 12, 2014, 08:15:42 PM
trying to decide if i should leave the 225's on for heavy haulin to koh or get some 265's slapped on whenever i get it too a shop to slap a sticker on

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Tires-265-70R19-5-H-16PR-TL-140-138M-BSW-Truck-Radial-Tire-26570195-785-/201232146179?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Tires&hash=item2eda5edf03&vxp=mtr 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Ryan on December 28, 2014, 06:28:53 PM
My truck is about 1500rpm at 70mph. Checked it today.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 29, 2014, 12:04:40 AM
thats crazy
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on December 29, 2014, 08:26:59 AM
that's about where mine is too.


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 29, 2014, 09:15:36 AM
Our F550 would be right about 2200 give or take at 70 mph.
It is what it is.
That's why we hardly drove it other than for towing.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on December 29, 2014, 09:20:47 AM
my redneck Ferrari is right around there towing @70
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Wingman on December 29, 2014, 09:27:07 AM
The BBB would have been at 3k if it could even reach 70.  :o
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on December 29, 2014, 09:51:15 AM
BBB?

My Ram turn ~1900 with the NV4500, or ~1750 with the 47Re at 70.

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on December 29, 2014, 09:55:00 AM
big black box, his old F700 box truck
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on December 29, 2014, 10:07:16 AM
She was a Beast!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Harrison on December 29, 2014, 11:41:57 AM

My Ram turn ~1900 with the NV4500

That poor 5th gear!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 16, 2015, 05:27:03 PM
logged in just over 9K miles on this unit thus far.

couldnt be happier other than stupid cloth seats



today i get a nice "ding, check trailer wiring" message every time i touch the brakes  :o


have to investigate- hope its due to snow and ice in the trailer connector that got broken
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on February 16, 2015, 05:32:16 PM
sounds likely :-/

damn things are too smart for their own good these days. I think I have the new plug in my stuff, we'll have to trade stuffs back and forth sometime this week.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 16, 2015, 05:39:01 PM
was planing on the last 1/2 of shop unpack tonight.  but feeling like its just too dam cold. meh
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on February 17, 2015, 07:46:37 AM
Way too cold.
When i open our shop door to drive in or out my wallet hurts.
-10 last night on truck thermo
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 19, 2015, 02:47:56 PM
air gun to trailer plug fixed.

also noticed i have the rattle / clunk in the front end now.  different than big truck on Grated tires at 110psi clunk- more like ball joint / sway bar link clunk.  awesome!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on February 19, 2015, 03:32:33 PM
damn shitty roads...

trailer air gun? huh?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 19, 2015, 04:07:04 PM


air gun to trailer plug fixed.

ding and dash light about check trailer wiring
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on February 19, 2015, 05:03:09 PM
ah!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 26, 2015, 12:23:05 PM
cool air filter is not 200$ on this thing
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on February 26, 2015, 07:16:34 PM
Can't you just thaw & dry out the filter? The snow came in through the fender?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 26, 2015, 09:52:51 PM
i could, but for 20$ after 10K miles and a week in the dessert, ill just change it.  picked one up today. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 27, 2015, 08:29:11 AM
first service performed last night

10026miles  filled windsheild wiper fluid tank
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on February 28, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
first service performed last night

10026miles  filled windsheild wiper fluid tank

That's the only thing 'serviced'? Either you have giant windshield washer fluid tank or was out for a while haha.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 08, 2015, 11:12:10 AM
air filter changed
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Ryan on March 09, 2015, 08:05:36 AM
Did you hook up the camera yet?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 09, 2015, 08:14:00 AM
cold has slowed this lol 


almost thought about it yesterday meh
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 29, 2015, 05:49:03 PM
got a dash message today

diesel exhaust filter 100% full

troy read manual, said to continue driving normal. 

about 30 minutes of 80% max power till a regen complete message appeared the full power resumed.

was kind of annoying, interesting.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Callelle on March 29, 2015, 07:07:06 PM
I know it's a different animal, but my bus used to do that. Dropped it to a lower gear one day a week to keep it blown/burnt/cleaned out. Never have me a loss in power so it could regen.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 30, 2015, 09:52:56 AM
im confused- reading most complaints the DPF gets full from people driving there trucks too easy, not enough heat, load or RPM.  they get responses like: stop driving it like a car, put some load on it, drop a gear and get the EGTs up


My truck gets worked pretty good, i dont see how hawging through the PA mountains at 28K lbs is driving it too easy

weird
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on April 12, 2015, 09:07:40 PM
put the back up camera in today and hooked to the edge.

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on April 13, 2015, 10:11:40 AM
They are great for hooking up trailers. Where did you put yours?  Bumper or headache rack?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on April 13, 2015, 10:20:06 AM
on the rack to see the goose ball
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on April 13, 2015, 01:06:51 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on May 04, 2015, 01:41:14 PM
CEL comes on with 3 codes a few miles before the DEF alarm comes on.  thats not very nice.  truck stop's DEF pump we planned on bulk filling at was damaged and blocked off. 

had to brown box 6 gallons for 45$ from rando gas station boo
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on June 08, 2015, 02:25:06 PM
this time CEL appeared upon startup in PA departure for home.  not sure if it had anything to due with the 30 minute idle waiting to head to AOAA   ::)



CEL read as too high frequency of regen DEF Filter
no restriction of power on the way home.

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on June 25, 2015, 12:27:18 AM
9.5 mpg rolled tonight.  Nice
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 06, 2015, 11:25:40 AM
maintenance schedual wants rear diff fluid changed every 15K miles with towing.  that seems annoying. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on July 06, 2015, 02:11:31 PM
I think that seems a little bit more than annoying. I think perhaps "ludicrous" or "insane" might be more of what you are looking for


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on July 06, 2015, 02:16:44 PM
that's  how they get people to void warranty
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 06, 2015, 02:52:02 PM
65K on trans fluid


sounds like its going to EXPLODE at any minute in 5th gear awesome!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: jacel861 on July 06, 2015, 05:43:46 PM
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 06, 2015, 06:17:51 PM
just to clarify:

65K is trans fluid service interval

truck currently has just shy of 15K miles
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Nick on July 06, 2015, 06:29:18 PM
Perfect!  :)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: KingtheZJ on July 06, 2015, 06:38:11 PM
Standard operating status for dodge light duty trans.

But for real why not put a girdle on it before the rebuild instead of after?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 06, 2015, 06:58:51 PM
ha

no care with warranty
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on July 07, 2015, 07:55:28 AM
As long as it actually does blow up within warranty...


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 07, 2015, 08:40:05 AM
wont own it for more than 3-4 years
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 07, 2015, 11:53:38 AM
http://www.rambodybuilder.com/2014/docs/cc/dddpts.pdf

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2015, 02:40:23 PM
Ram forums told me the see dealer now for fuel system service message is lynced with calculated fuel filter life.

Changed oil and filter, Chassis fuel filter/water separater, under hood cartridge filter (67$ from Dealer with delphi discount), and greased everything. 


holding off on rear diff fluid service.  just beat after fluids and trying to tighten up my goose ball nut.  apparently its been loose and beating it self.  cant loose or tighten it, so i just welded it to the mount.  \


now own next group of big boy sockets past the 3/4 HF set. 



oil and fuel monitors reset, 2 DEF engine codes cleared 14940 miles
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 13, 2015, 02:40:37 PM
under hood fuel filter ebay 20$

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DODGE-RAM-6-7-DIESEL-FUEL-FILTERS-2010-2015-/311377614977?hash=item487f8d5881&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on July 14, 2015, 09:33:11 AM
I still cant cross into WIX.. funny
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 24, 2015, 10:19:27 AM
got a plan for some flat bed extensions to drive buggy or a jeep on.  Gona maybe grab some steel at lunch.  Been thinking about this for a while and have a solid plan. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M on August 24, 2015, 03:43:34 PM
That'd be an awesome sight. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: jaysenodell on August 24, 2015, 04:11:40 PM
Think that idea would work on a '42 LM?


I know a guy with one ...
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 24, 2015, 05:32:58 PM
the bed is 9'6" long already, just going to make some 3' or so extensions or so, and with some 6-7' ramps they will all make stake sides for scraping too.



no idea what a 42' LM is
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: jaysenodell on August 24, 2015, 06:01:32 PM
It's a 1948 LM (Load Master), not a 42, as mr wing pointed out privately.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on August 24, 2015, 06:32:11 PM
Good idea on using the ramps as stake sides. Is that what Miller did with his F550? I remember seeing his sides and thought they looked odd.

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Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on August 24, 2015, 08:51:53 PM
yup, he did
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 24, 2015, 11:41:24 PM
maybe half done.  some tube supports and then tack up the ramps that are cut out.  then stake side provisions. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2015, 12:15:37 AM
ready for load test tomorrow in day light!


ramps have stake side stows, extensions bolt on with ten 3/8" bolts the little dewalt makes short work of in 2 min. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: dubt on August 26, 2015, 07:19:25 AM
Can not wait to see this in person.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Wingman on August 26, 2015, 08:25:44 AM
Need to hook up aux tail lights?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on August 26, 2015, 08:26:37 AM
I was thinking some marker lights would be all...
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2015, 09:12:43 AM
its up pretty high and doesnt block visibility too much. not sure on the laws.


I was more thinking a crash bar that plugs into the reciever as these things were discussed on FB  ;)   
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on August 26, 2015, 09:33:46 AM
what would be slick is a piston from the receiver that would raise and lower the ramps...


Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 26, 2015, 09:40:24 AM
ramps stow in stake side pockets.  it would be kind long and tall if 6' ramps folded up.  They might even need to be a lot longer to get anything normal on it.  should have just make full sides at 9'6" but would have been HEAVY.   all components now are tolerable to toss around. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Wingman on August 26, 2015, 09:51:15 AM
Aluminum!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on August 26, 2015, 10:15:56 AM
9'6" ramps still wouldn't get anything normal up there as tall as your bed is.

I need at least 10' ramps on mine to take care of breakover to get Gus up there as he sits
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 28, 2015, 12:12:45 AM
wonder 4.0 and 572 pull on fine.  looks good.  added 2 more bolts to take the tension on the deck.  one of the ramp rails took a 1/2" bend on first use.  note, 6' ramp of 2x2 angle .250 wall no good for anything more lol


gona try it out this weekend to pines. 


Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 28, 2015, 09:56:45 AM
Ran math for buckling of supports and bolt shear at the deck, im over 10X  safety with 1500lbs on each ramp@3' load


she be fine!



Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on August 28, 2015, 10:16:15 AM
Noice!


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on August 28, 2015, 10:16:30 AM
I’m curious to see a scale ticket


Tapatalking in traffic
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 28, 2015, 11:29:14 AM
truck is 10050 and buggy is probably at about 4500lbs right there
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Nick on August 28, 2015, 02:43:22 PM
That's hill Billy bog and grog sketchy!  Haha
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: gif on August 28, 2015, 04:23:47 PM
nice work.  looks legit.

I think i would have done it more like a beaver tail and split up that break over angle.

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 31, 2015, 01:08:44 PM
used Saturday, no issues. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on August 31, 2015, 03:36:07 PM
Awesome.

Not that there's any motivation to change at this point, but I was thinking about this a bit and I would definitely put some angle to them, and set them up with tail lights. I'd probably also make them drop into your rear stake pockets instead of bolting to the bed.

revision II items.

or for mine if I decide I don't care about RAWR.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 31, 2015, 04:36:30 PM
extensions angled down would put even more stress on the part i was most worried about- pulling the deck edge apart.  also the reason why i didn't use the little kid china welded on steak side pocket.  added 2 more bolts to make it 5 across each ramp.  pocket would need a lot of steel and welding on the deck which i didn't want to do with 14' electronics.   

literately takes less than 5 min to assemble or disassemble with a 3/8's dewalt and 9/16" wrench.   
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 01, 2015, 11:57:34 AM
unbolted last night- nothing went TWANG! 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 16, 2015, 05:35:34 PM
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2015/09/recall-alert-2012-2014-ram-1500-2500-3500-4500-and-5500.html#more
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: gif on September 16, 2015, 09:31:00 PM
not cool
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 20, 2015, 09:29:23 PM
i kinda want a 950 ft lb truck


cant run the tuner at all with the weight im running.  truck is a pile in the hills boo. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Harrison on September 20, 2015, 09:31:40 PM
Delete and tune?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 20, 2015, 09:59:14 PM
not worth it when still under warranty.  my trans 5th gear is fucked i should probably take it in or trade it in. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Ryan on September 20, 2015, 11:53:27 PM
I have 800 I think. The tuner adds a lot to it when turned up. I don't tow as much as you do,  but with my 36' Gooseneck full of everything we own I was pulling the mountain pass no problem.  Set the cruise and go. I'm surprised yours feels so bad.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 21, 2015, 09:34:23 AM
your scale weight is probably 24-26  not 34-36k lbs   :o


650 ft lb truck, and running tuner on tow mode within 30 min it shuts the truck down in hard regen and sometimes even limits the power to 70% if you dont immediately turn the tuner off. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on September 21, 2015, 11:34:33 AM
emissions controls and tuners don't play well, go figure :(

I guess if it's annoying in stock mode in the PA hills you must be a lot heavier now than we were to CA. I didn't think it was too annying to pull those grades at 55 doing what we were doing.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 21, 2015, 11:41:25 AM
its only in PA hills. 

no issues going to KY or IN races in tow mode with tunner on or CA trip. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 21, 2015, 11:42:03 AM
truck has almost 19K on it now.  17K of that is towing
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 17, 2015, 12:18:06 PM
getting dropped at dealer Monday for airbag harness recall and trans inspection/repair   ::)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on December 17, 2015, 12:26:13 PM
fingers crossed that they also don't like the trans noise, and are willing to do something preemptively.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 17, 2015, 12:36:28 PM
have to pull the tuner out which is a huge hassel, but meh. 

Cortese cant handle my truck, had to go to GVD bah


Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 21, 2015, 09:51:27 AM
GVD says nothing but document noise complaint about trans
did airbag harness and ECM got 3 updates, great!


retards
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on January 06, 2016, 12:04:48 PM
started looking for next truck.  want same, with longer bed, auto.  next upgrade for uconnect. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 18, 2016, 09:43:50 AM
went to the DMV yesterday- upon blank faces tracing what i would like to do with my index finger over highlighted text on DMV documents, the supervisor was brought up.

I was informed i could do what i want, but needed a weight slip to change registration class with the added "Camping equipment"

Ran to Cat scales with the truck that decided to be 9680  (less than whats on the title now)

went back.  took 3 girls behind the counter to casually decided what class to register me.  One one said, we are going to call you a suburban,  is that ok?  i said sure as long as i get passenger plates!  said yes.   Girl says looks at weight and sees its lighter now.  i tell her, i dont know how or where that number on the title came from, but id be happy to take a refund if i was over paying.  she mumbled something and said eh were not going to go there, filled out the new weight on the form and ran it in the computer. 

189$ for new reg, title.  10.50$ for scale

handed me plates and left.


reg (and new title on the way) says 2014 RAM SUBN   nothing about RV or camper or anything.  should be good for passing scales

also confused why my bank didn't hold the title, wasn't even sure i had one till i found it locked up. 

i suppose i should check with Gieco to make sure insurance is happy still
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 18, 2016, 09:46:13 AM
Definition of "Suburban (SUBN)"
Published 03/31/2003 09:33 AM   |    Updated 12/12/2014 11:21 AM
My vehicle is listed on my registration as "SUBN" for "suburban." What do the word "suburban" and the vehicle body type code "SUBN" describe?

The term "suburban" is the term used in the New York State Vehicle and Traffic Law to describe the body type of a vehicle that:

has windows on the side in the rear, and
has seats in the rear that can be folded or removed so the vehicle can carry cargo.



check!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: KingtheZJ on March 18, 2016, 09:51:42 AM
SUBN seems to be used for most SUVs

what weight is listed on the registration?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 18, 2016, 09:59:56 AM
9680 on reg
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 18, 2016, 10:04:22 AM
just says G PASS 9680 2014 RAM SUBR instead of G COM 12000 2014 RAM FLAT


wondering if i should have thrown the jeep on the back so it would be unlaiden at 14K or something




so annoying that "weight slip"  is so random  DMV sucks
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: luvmyxj on March 18, 2016, 10:23:55 AM
loan or not you always get a title, should say something about lein recorded or something to that degree to clarify your not the actual owner yet
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 19, 2016, 12:08:36 AM
Correct. Bank is recorded on the title as lein holder.

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Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on March 19, 2016, 07:26:11 AM
hence the phrase "clean and clear"
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 20, 2016, 07:01:13 PM
i guess i knew that.  not sure what i was thinking.


replated and stickered.  need to drop for an inspection sticker this week. 

hauled two loads of garbage to the dumpster today!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on June 10, 2016, 11:24:04 PM
clearing CEL's on this thing is getting annoying


delco crate filled with shop scrap for tomorrow morning. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 08, 2016, 07:53:31 PM
See dealer service def.  Gave me 150 mile warning, now at 80 miles till full limp.   Probably should have turned around and made it closer back to home.   No diesel techs tomorrow at any dealer out here.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 08, 2016, 07:54:32 PM
Added insult, hissing 19.5 trailer tire when I pulled in with a bolt sticking out of it. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: gif on July 08, 2016, 08:20:17 PM
rough trip
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on July 08, 2016, 09:43:51 PM
shit x2
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on July 08, 2016, 11:37:01 PM
Where do you take the truck?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 10, 2016, 11:04:10 PM
made it home
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: dubt on July 10, 2016, 11:06:48 PM
Glad you made it home. Hopefully faster than 5 mph
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 10, 2016, 11:08:38 PM
ya codes kept clear.  its fine or it isnt.  dealer wont do anything im sure.  has to go in for a sticker this week and will get appraised for trade in while its there

truck shopping soon. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Wingman on July 11, 2016, 07:30:15 AM
Going bigger? Or just different?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on July 11, 2016, 08:11:50 AM
dealer had better do something about it.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2016, 08:18:31 AM
dealers don't do anything preventative or proactive.  only reactive when a truck gets flatbed'd in. 


same truck but auto and 14' flat bed


Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on July 11, 2016, 08:21:10 AM
this is reactive to a code you saw that gave you a 150 mile countdown.

they'd better.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2016, 08:41:30 AM
maybe some day you will understand how dealers work. 

no codes now they wont do anything. 


it needs a sticker, ill have them document another transmission complaint, the 3 codes i clear, and have Brad give me a trade in number.  a phone conversation with him i can already tell he will be more useless than the last time i tried to use a salesman to find me a truck.  those are my expectations. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on July 11, 2016, 09:11:55 AM
a dealer will only do something if they can bill the parent...

if they have to eat any cost, part, or labor you better be a no. 1 customer or VIP..

otherwise you're SOL

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2016, 09:15:06 AM
I only take it there because Brad will have it washed and detailed haha
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2016, 11:48:10 AM
man do these trucks look so much better with out stupid chrome on them

(http://www.ramtrucks.com/mediaserver/iris?COSY-EU-100-1713uLDEMTV1r9s%25WBXaBKFmfKSLC9gIQALMc6UhVk6GBfM9IW2VRkr72kRsd9poNwXGXQpMTV1rUhDg6OQCckPquBhkBNR2oospbeD5oLb1dn4MweMODh2%25AFR7V4lp56oDfoqG1TLX6XKjzrxYM8hNnO&&pov=fronthero&width=668&height=386&bkgrnd=&resp=jpg&cut=)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2016, 01:18:04 PM
GVD says they are booked till July 21'st for service.  thats pretty comical. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on July 11, 2016, 01:28:30 PM
Vision or corteese do truck service?    I can make a call
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2016, 01:42:02 PM
corteese wont touch my truck,  looks like Vision has a only one single wheel cummins 1 ton on there lot, so probably not them either. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Callelle on July 11, 2016, 02:26:36 PM
Don't know how far you want to travel looking for a new truck, but Upstate Dodge in Attica has a number of cab and chassis sitting in their lot.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2016, 02:50:34 PM
ya, i looked when we drove by.  ill take a look at there site. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2016, 03:06:42 PM
not much there.


i just use trucktrader, its way easier to find what you want. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2016, 03:45:02 PM
ordered a DEF tester for 16$ off ebay. 

date codes in Regional DEF suggest January manf.   its HOT in that warehouse.  life i think was 6 months at 95F i believe. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on July 11, 2016, 03:56:53 PM
I need to stockpile pre-07 trucks.
that shit's bullshit.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Harrison on July 11, 2016, 06:02:56 PM
I need to stockpile pre-07 trucks.
that shit's bullshit.

Hoping to get a lot of years out of my 06
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Harrison on July 11, 2016, 06:05:53 PM
Makes me sad they have completely stopped investing in manual trans technology, wonder how many years that's got left.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2016, 06:30:42 PM
all the delete kits say they dont play nice with C&C trucks also.  havent found any info on that. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 11, 2016, 09:57:48 PM
30K service complete minus rear diff that needs a change


12quarts oil
oil filter
fuel filter under hood
fuel filter / water separator chassis mount
air filter
monitors reset
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2016, 08:49:44 AM
no lights or issues to buffalo and back last night.

fueled for weekend tow.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on July 15, 2016, 08:50:45 AM
fingers crossed. have snapon code clearer still?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 15, 2016, 08:51:55 AM
ya its josh's box i borrowed that seem to do a better job in clearing emission data than my tuner would.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: wnyjpgy on July 15, 2016, 09:36:35 AM
I thought is was decent for the money since it does live data which was what I wanted it for after diagnosing some wiring/sensor issues.

I'll grab it at the picnic next week if you don't need it..
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 19, 2016, 01:25:37 PM
cleaned and detailed interior of this thing last night.  looks like a new truck again.  finally got all the KOH sand out.

finished 30K service and lube.  no grease fittings present on 4x4 front shaft.



both front unit bearings and wheel u joints have non zero play which i thought pretty odd for a 29K truck.  nothing grease able of course ujoint or ball joint wise. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 20, 2016, 10:30:53 AM
DEF test unit came yesterday, fluid in my tank Passes- was right in spec. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 22, 2016, 11:18:45 AM
dealer says they want a 2 week window to pull trans for rebuild!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on July 22, 2016, 11:27:04 AM
they want 2 weeks to do it? I did it in 2 weeks while working my day job and having to weld the bellhousing together.

I guess they want to be able to wait for parts?

Good news though!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: matt on July 22, 2016, 12:06:32 PM
That is insane that they want a customer with a "commercial" truck to be without it for 2 weeks.

Did you tell them in the winter. lol
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 22, 2016, 01:11:00 PM
i should have just said do it when he called to talk to me but that would have left me with a jeep to get an entire picnic supplys to attica lol

going in Aug1.  im sure they sched 2 weeks for delays.  id imaging 1 day tear down, 1 day trans inspection, 3 days parts, 2 days assembly. 



im more worried about why they are going to do wrong than the time frame. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on July 25, 2016, 10:04:03 AM
they want 2 weeks to do it? I did it in 2 weeks while working my day job and having to weld the bellhousing together.

lol
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 12, 2016, 11:26:18 AM
Truck dropped Wednesday for thursday appointment.

usual it sits a day on there lot doing nothing.

my lot informant (Steve Mason) sent first update today, looks like they got it in finally
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on August 12, 2016, 04:27:05 PM
That doesn't look crazy for break in period.


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Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 12, 2016, 11:33:17 PM
ya I thought that was fine for 30k.  trans is out and apart and parts have been ordered is last i herd.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on August 12, 2016, 11:43:33 PM
Interested to find out what parts.

Mine seems to be running cooler after rebuild - but warmer than historical norms... 220-240 instead of 190-210. Was hitting 270 before I went through it. Seems fine.


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Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 13, 2016, 10:54:41 AM
my 5600 would run up to 230 when towing and it was 90F out
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 15, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
parts for 5th and 6th ordered
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 17, 2016, 01:42:14 PM
still on the lift waiting for parts since Monday haha

need to call the other service writer tomorrow that's handling the job. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2016, 10:44:36 AM
parts in, reassembly has started today.  Maybe ill have the truck back tomorrow!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2016, 04:51:32 PM
status as of 3pm. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on August 18, 2016, 05:13:36 PM
Looks almost done  :o
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 19, 2016, 09:06:56 AM
bah, more parts on order, due Monday. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 23, 2016, 09:03:34 AM
got the call, they said its good to go.


service writer not too knowlegable about actual rebuild parts so ill have to confirm

5th and 6th syncro(sp?) packs
5th gear pitting, changed
main input bearing changed
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: matt on August 23, 2016, 11:51:38 AM
How many miles do you have on the truck? 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 23, 2016, 01:15:52 PM
30,XXX
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 24, 2016, 12:03:39 AM
picked up and swapped trailer behind the XJ to XJ on the trailer behind RAM

trans seems quiet in 5th and all is well. 


Will see how she goes!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 24, 2016, 12:04:26 AM
will post rebuild sheet- i forgot to even look at it, but has all the PNs listed
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 13, 2016, 12:21:32 AM
all good this weekend towing.


felt great on 90 with only two bros'   

lol
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 13, 2016, 11:38:52 PM
fail

trailer lights left on sometime this week


truck totally dead.  2 hours with a Honda sitting on it i got a click.  orange cord and charger pulling 3amps to both batteries not looking good.

hopefully grabbing two new batteries from nuway tomorrow before heading south. 



bah. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 17, 2016, 11:05:29 AM
averaged 8.6mpg this weekend.  felt HEAVY in the hills.  was super annoyed at Rt11/15 BS on the way down, decided to head up 81 and take the RC way home. 

need to get the tuner back on and fill DEF tank


paid 2.95 for diesel in PA  on the way there boooo
troy paid 2.69 for diesel on the way home at sheetz in Elysburg. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 17, 2016, 11:54:20 AM
PA priced have been really really high for the last 3-4 months or so. Not sure whays up w that


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Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: luvmyxj on October 17, 2016, 12:39:23 PM
Truck stops are always .50+ then the current price, even the dans ville and Waterloo stops are way overpriced then home
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 17, 2016, 01:56:31 PM
Very very. PA stops have been running at roughly NY truck stop prices


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Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 02, 2016, 01:42:29 PM
averaging 7.6 mpg with PA trips

put tuner back in yesterday.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 02, 2016, 02:02:22 PM
ouch
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 26, 2016, 06:29:19 PM
dead today, confirmed batterys nuked
installed new batteries
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on January 16, 2017, 10:13:32 PM
driver side has more "click" than passenger side but both noticeable upon wheel hump when on a jack.


cant identify if its unit bearing or ball joints.  upper ball joint suspected most but its tough to tell. 

probably rotate fronts and run them another 5-10K
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on January 17, 2017, 05:12:28 PM
how many miles on it now? same tires when new?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on January 17, 2017, 06:53:02 PM
40K on truck, original continental HSRs on it.  i noticed some uneven edge wear on the driver side during the 30K oil change.  click in both wheels when jacked up, and both sides 4x4 universals had play


rears are about 50% tread even wear.  should be good for service to 75K if i keep the truck that long. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on January 22, 2017, 08:10:10 PM
front steers rotated
rear diff fluid changed
front TREs lubed
fluids checked
brakes inspected, 1/2"+ on all pads and rotors look good. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on May 01, 2017, 09:39:29 AM
found this deal on ebay going to try.


dealer gets 65$ for the water separator usually. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on May 01, 2017, 09:55:16 AM
missed the linkey.

I just used up my filter stock, time to re-up. I've been doing 7500 on oil and planned to do 15000 on fuel - but my fuel filters looked PERFECT. Not a drop of water and barely any sediment in the water bowl. I think I will significantly up that, and maybe change based on filter canister rust if not milage. They were a little crusty.

I'm running FS1242 water filter and FF5320 2 micron.
Engine mounted Mopar combo filter (FS43258) is still present and I plan to completely ignore it.

EDIT: mixed up numbers
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on May 01, 2017, 10:13:38 AM
opps

http://www.ebay.com/itm/272470643257
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on May 01, 2017, 10:15:41 AM
white box would have been 90$ for the chassis filter and 39$ for the under hood, 14$ for oil if i was impatient.   its getting oil done this week, and if the filters come thursday possibly fuel before i leave this weekend. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on May 01, 2017, 02:22:51 PM
I just priced out my replacements on ebay vs puredieselpower - I'll be going with the latter for certain.
Single source, same or better prices.

I checked your fuel filter though, and same deal. $70-$90 for the two stange on frame filter.

No way I'd keep that around if I were going to keep the truck long term. Same or better filtration costs me $28 after a one-time cost around $150 to get the dual spin-on mount.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on May 01, 2017, 04:12:31 PM
i dont plan to keep the truck for more than 2 or 3 more oil changes but we will see.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on May 03, 2017, 08:00:57 PM
45,383 mile service:

air filter
under hood fuel filter
chassis fuel filter / water separator
oil and oil filter change
tie rod lube
codes cleared
torn mud flap at mint400 shortened and reinstalled
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: luvmyxj on May 08, 2017, 06:04:54 PM
have you been using the same brand of def since you bought that truck, some chatter on forums say that cel you get maybe related to low quality def and picky systems
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on May 08, 2017, 10:27:26 PM
i have tried a few after similar forum chatter.  im betting my system is just fucked from running overloaded GVW on a tune.

i have tried bulk fill, walmart, or Fleet pride with same result.  i refuse to run mopar at the 10X cost.  i also use about 3X more than the brotow rigs on most forums with 2500s and dubs.   I have a DEF test kit that i carry in the truck, i have never tested my tank out of spec. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on May 09, 2017, 07:05:14 AM
want a 55 gal drum of blue... can drop at shop ;)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on May 09, 2017, 08:25:07 AM
what codes you're seeing?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: orange anchor on May 09, 2017, 08:28:31 AM
 
Here’s what we have on the Peak DEF…
 
(80) 2.5 gallon jugs/skid
 
$11.29/jug
$903.20/skid
 
Smike this is what I have bought for my yard trucks.
How is this pricing?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on May 09, 2017, 09:13:55 AM
bulk fill at truck stops is usually 2.50-3.00/ gallon

usually at walmart or Regional International i pay 7-9$ for a 2.5gallon jug out the door. 

Peak i think is one of the higher end fluids and


if your buying skids at 4.50/gallon i think you could do better with drums if your usage is enough to over come shelf life and operator pumping issues.   

I drum wouldnt help me as my usage is low and half my usage is on the road...
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 31, 2017, 12:33:37 AM
about to hit 50K


this morning i forgot there was a 48' trailer behind me with the cruse set.  Running good.  CEL stays on for emissions bs haha

need to decided if the front steers are gona get changed before October or trade it in :) 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on July 31, 2017, 08:43:22 AM
What you're going to trade it in on? Another Ram 4500/5500 but with Aisin auto trans?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 31, 2017, 09:43:00 AM
not sure.  i could just tow with the 49 for a bit :)  hahaha


ya id get a longer flat bed and 5500 with auto
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 18, 2017, 05:31:00 PM
broke 50K on this unit this weekend

getting a new windshield Wednesday- first time in my 16 years of driving i will be using insurance on a vehicle (full glass)

should be fun to watch how they do it with the new security cams on the job!


hopfully they do not destroy my truck
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 20, 2017, 10:15:30 PM
new glass installed.  cams show took guy about 40 minutes to do. 

glass says mopar on it and looks factory.  insurance billed 408$, fully covered.   
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on September 22, 2017, 06:40:40 PM
Do you have auto dim headlights or pressure sending wipers?   
That’s the real reason for factory glass...
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 22, 2017, 10:22:44 PM
They actually removed all that annoying shit from the rams that Cherokees have a few years back
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 26, 2017, 03:42:01 PM
cant see anything different with new glass while driving. 
inspection woes.  i guess ill try to see where it is after a buffalo drive.  if it doesn't set them by then ill give up caring about it.

looks like i need to put the tuner back in so i can watch it when its reg'ing and make sure it finishes.  looks like it takes 3 re gen cycles to make most of them set. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on September 26, 2017, 04:01:41 PM
lol what kind of glass did you expect?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 26, 2017, 04:30:10 PM
shit chineese glass everyone complains about, in cab mounted mirror, and associated trim parts mounted by a 15$/hr tech


wasnt happy to see under hood trim pieces being ripped off and thrown to the ground on the security cam
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on September 26, 2017, 06:18:53 PM
I've had my Titan replaced 3 times, no issues.


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Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 26, 2017, 07:30:25 PM
lol city life


hawged this thing like a battle ship over to time warner (now spectrum)  i dont fit anywhere
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on September 27, 2017, 08:54:37 AM
Thruway life
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on September 27, 2017, 09:04:35 AM
I wish windshield laws are more lax. My Blazer have big cracks in its windshield for 4 to 5 years now with no ill effects.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on September 27, 2017, 09:27:29 AM
I get glare from the cracks in the Jetta. need to get that done sometime.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 04, 2017, 11:45:50 PM
same 4/10 emissions monitors only set since 5 min drive in addition to drive last week and just now to buffalo and back tonight.

fucking thing
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 05, 2017, 08:20:53 AM
Tuner messing with emission monitors or emission components themselves are messing up?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 05, 2017, 09:20:04 AM
tuner been disconnected for at least a tank of fuel. 

it has a historic code thats pending for regen freq too high but i cant clear it.  (no CEL)

i have watched it regen at least 6 times.  web said 3 times it should set 4 more monitors. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 05, 2017, 09:39:18 AM
My best guess some towing miles w/o tuner should help with that regen "too frequent" pending code



Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 05, 2017, 09:42:20 AM
it regens about every 15 minutes at speed, more if you let it idle. 

either the tuner has broken components or i need to get that historic code cleared before it will be happy and run the tests.  not going to let it bother me, is what it is. 

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 25, 2017, 07:54:48 AM
Ram 4500/5500 Diesel
For 5 years or 100,000 miles, whichever
first occurs:
1. If any emission-related part on your truck is defective,
the part will be repaired or replaced by FCA US. This is
your SHORT-TERM EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM
DEFECTS WARRANTY.

NOTE: Where applicable with covered parts, associated
plumbing, mounting hardware, gaskets, O-rings, and wiring
harnesses are covered.

SHORT-TERM EMISSION-RELATED PARTS:
4500/5500 Ram Diesel
• Diesel Oxidation
Catalyst
• Exhaust Valve
• Diesel Particulate Filter • EGR Cooler
• SCR Catalyst • EGR Valve
• DEF Tank & Lines • Engine Control Module
• Exhaust Manifold • Fuel Pressure Sensor
• Charge Air Cooler • Fuel Pump
• Turbocharger • Injector


looks like exhaust manifold and gasket should be covered under short term emmissions warranty.  The Long term components or terms is not clearly defined for 4500 / 5500 only 3500. 


Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 26, 2017, 10:43:58 AM
4 weeks to get into dealer
what a pile of shit
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 26, 2017, 10:46:20 AM
mike do you know much about the waste gate on these trucks?  some of the forum threads say soot clogs and sticks open / sticks closed?  could mine be stuck closed and thats why it has over boost codes? 


i guess i have 4 weeks to try somethings, or to just order a new truck haha
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 26, 2017, 11:56:06 AM
first: there is no wastegate.

the vanes on any variable geometry turbo can get sticky with age, usually on vehicles that are babied or sit for long periods.

you know you don't have sticky vanes - the exhaust brake does things. if the vanes were stuck it couldn't do anything.

I don't know if it's possible for vanes to partially stick? Seems to me it should be all or nothing. Could you have a sensor problem? Do you see high boost? My truck maxes at 29, I rarely see more than 27. I thought I remembered yours being lower than that.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 26, 2017, 12:04:34 PM
Holy crap. I'm hard on my turbo lol

I think there's a "cleaning port" on the turbo to decarbon it.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 26, 2017, 12:14:33 PM
Shit video but you get an idea

https://youtu.be/yN82utCPGgY
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 26, 2017, 12:15:26 PM
you've got something bigger than stock in your truck, right? as I recall the sweet spot for the HX35 is around 31-33psi, more than that and a lot of heat is the result. my wastegate kept mine to 33-34 on my 12v and it ran real nice [until it didn't]
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on October 26, 2017, 12:26:06 PM
youtu.be/yN82utCPGgY

I'm still running the stock, original tired HX35. Yes, ~30 psi of boost is about max. Anything more than that it get toasty. Waste gate not working (stuck closed).

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 16, 2017, 08:58:59 AM
today is the day! dropped off the RAM last night to avon Dodge.

taking bets on the bS they feed back to me!


my clear customer complaints:
1) NYS inspection: will not set more than 8/10 emission monitors in 2500miles with no CEL, currently only has historic pending Regen freq code, no CEL.
2) exhaust manifold/gasket leak causing squealing/hissing and lack of boost, lack of exhaust brake function




i bet i get back:
will not pass inspection, monitors not set- need to drive more
truck fine no boost codes, that noise is normal



sadly i forgot i cleared the 7 codes it had in Denver and drove home with no tuner and no brake.  couldnt get any codes to set
it had in Denver:
P203F
P0234
P20E8
P20EE

bah
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 16, 2017, 11:03:31 AM
dealer call 1

asked if i want regular or HD inspection, says it will pass.  (no sticker from new glass, valid question- but i bet they didn't plug in yet to find out it wont pass- morons)

expressed concern about exhaust leak noises again. 
no parts avail for water pump recall that apparently can cause under hood fire lol 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 16, 2017, 04:13:33 PM
WOW

passed inspection

getting a new turbo and related gaskets under warranty NOV 27.

Internal non serviceable components blown.   
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 16, 2017, 04:21:23 PM
you shouldn't need to have emissions monitors set to pass when >10,000#
my truck won't pass a plug in because it doesn't run monitors. I can only get a sticker because I'm emissions exempt. That requires a manual override of the inspection computer because my VIN doesn't show the correct weight class. Cab & Chassis problems. Bet your inspection shop was making the same mistake.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 16, 2017, 04:48:04 PM
my truck registered as RAM suburban, passenger plate.  no GVWR on registration. 


what does your title say for GVW? thats what the DMV inspection system should reference?



but cant you get an inspection without a plate or registration so how could it not just be by whats on the door? hmmm
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 16, 2017, 04:56:47 PM
Oh, that may goof it up. you'd mentioned that, and I forgot. I think we've had this WHOLE conversation before. Except for that last part. That's a good point. I've always shown registration, not sure if that's required. I believe that new things I've picked up for out of state destinations that wear only a NY transit temp tag have had inspection stickers on them.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 16, 2017, 05:01:19 PM
well think of like salvage inspection, or if you let your registration lapse or expire, DMV requires a valid inspection before issuing registration.....
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: wnyjpgy on November 17, 2017, 07:40:41 AM
Just a side note, you can get a vehicle inspected without a registration. I have to do it with all of the wrecked cars I buy.

On the nys computer one of the first questions is, if the vehicle is registered.  If not, you can get it inspected off of the VIN alone.

It works the same way if they can't scan the registration on your window.

In your case Mike, that would be probably the best, since it would just come up diesel truck and not have to get plugged in regardless of what it's registered as.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: KingtheZJ on November 17, 2017, 08:10:25 AM
I still don't understand the plug in vs not plug in issue.

In my experiences all my 3/4 ton trucks never had to be plugged in. Including the 2 gas trucks that had passenger plates (no GVW on reg) that "weighed" 6000.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 17, 2017, 09:17:00 AM
you paid 11 not 21$?

door jam GVW over 8500?

who knows, its a hopeless system run by oil change monkeys what could possibly go wrong
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 17, 2017, 11:11:24 AM
oil change monkeys who have like 4 people in Albany they get to wait to talk to when things don't work right.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 26, 2017, 09:04:21 PM
this unit dropped tonight at GVD for turbo replacement
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 27, 2017, 02:05:12 PM
35-36 trade number given over phone.  not sure how i feel about that

i was hoping for north of 40 to push a new truck build, i guess i need to look at real numbers for tax benifit, flatbed stuff ect
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 27, 2017, 04:33:52 PM
car sales man are so funny
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 28, 2017, 10:13:17 AM
blacked out! 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: dubt on November 28, 2017, 10:17:02 AM
blacked out!
Love the black out look

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Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 28, 2017, 10:19:19 AM
hate the chrome package on my truck

you loose fog lights though without it
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 28, 2017, 10:20:12 AM
losing 4 Alcoas is a 1200$ option also.   (outers and steers only)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M on November 28, 2017, 12:04:53 PM
looks cheap, unless painted to match the sheetmetal then that'd be tits.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 28, 2017, 12:36:52 PM
I like the flat black way better then the chrome.  the 4500/5500 front extended flares are already that color and texture anyway. 



11.6 flat bed with taper corner quote looks good



day 2, the 4500 is still torn apart haha

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Ryan on November 29, 2017, 12:45:16 PM
losing 4 Alcoas is a 1200$ option also.   (outers and steers only)

They are worth the $1200

Rusted steel wheels look horrible.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 29, 2017, 01:17:14 PM
i think factory steel wheels should last 3-4 years.  id rather paint them black when they get wrapped with 245s anyway

plus the alcoas are like soft butter, i dinged the crap out of one just laying it down on pavement when i rotated my steers. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 30, 2017, 10:37:29 AM
this chart bothers me in so many ways



Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 30, 2017, 10:41:20 AM
The Ram Max Tow package includes a new transfer case gear set and chain and sprocket upgrades, recalibrated transmission software and an enhanced collection of thermal management devices.

Max Tow is available on Ram Chassis Cab trucks equipped with the optional, commercial-grade Aisin six-speed automatic transmission and 4.88 rear-axle ratio. A 4.44 axle is standard on 4500 models and not available with the Max Tow package. A class-exclusive six-speed manual transmission is standard on Ram 4500 and 5500 Chassis Cab models.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 30, 2017, 11:28:08 AM
AISIN AS69RC RATIOS
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
R
3.75 : 1
2.00 : 1
1.34 : 1
1.00 : 1
0.77 : 1
0.63 : 1
3.54 : 1


G56 TRANSMISSION RATIOS
Application
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
R
5.94 : 1
3.28 : 1
1.98 : 1
1.31 : 1
1.00 : 1
0.74 : 1
5.42 : 1
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 30, 2017, 11:33:17 AM
after actually looking at the math, i dont think i want 4.10s





what i have now G56 / 225s / 4.44 rear / 6 speed 0.74 OD

68MPH = 2383 RPM



A Aisin AS69RC with 225s / 4.10 / 6th gear lock 0.63 OD

68MPH = 1874 RPM

A Aisin AS69RC with 225s / 4.44 / 6th gear lock 0.63 OD

68MPH = 2029 RPM

A Aisin AS69RC with 225s / 4.88/ 6th gear lock 0.63 OD

68MPH = 2230 RPM
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 30, 2017, 11:37:16 AM
update on the 4500


all back together but knock sensor elbow issue, something about needing another part overnight-ed because of a update that was made with the new turbo PN.  should be done tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 30, 2017, 11:39:53 AM
that even makes 4.88 look quite tolerable, that's a huge OD.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 30, 2017, 12:03:23 PM
right?  and the RAM MAX tow seems like its a good option, and i wouldnt be out of my weight class for warranty issues

cant see how RAM says 17k vs 29k trailer from a gear change and trans flash.  wonder if its bigger coolers / ect 

but does that mean it gets 4mpg?  lol 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 30, 2017, 12:36:14 PM
it did say something about additional cooling package for Max Tow.

the tow ratings are all about 26k vs over.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on November 30, 2017, 02:06:40 PM
IMHO the cooling system isn’t a huge limiting factor. G56’s gears can’t handle the load as well as autos can like the Aisin.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 30, 2017, 02:11:40 PM
it's in the cushion of the torque convertor and the tight integration between modern automatics and the engine ECU as far as torque management.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on November 30, 2017, 02:11:52 PM
It would’ve be nice if they do offer one of 4.10/4.30/4.44 ratios in the max tow package for better empty/light load highway cruising mpg. Tow heavy in 5th instead of 6th.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on November 30, 2017, 02:26:10 PM
it's in the cushion of the torque convertor and the tight integration between modern automatics and the engine ECU as far as torque management.

Valid point on the ecu on auto trans via reduce power output and release the TCC for split of a second when shifting. It’s actually mostly to avoid harshness

I kinda disagree on ‘cushion’, torque converter locks and no fluid-coupling in 2-6th gears.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 30, 2017, 02:30:02 PM
TC locked shifting? I'm not aisin-familiar but that's a huge surprise if so. It's at the point of engagement that it matters.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 30, 2017, 02:39:55 PM
so am i dumb in thinking ill have same or better milage with lower RPMs and better power with 100ftlbs of torgue and a smart auto? 


I am thinking a 4.88 auto truck is going to be an improvement, maybe if its more than enough power change, swap to 245 tires as a back up since my trailer needs new 225s anyway?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 30, 2017, 02:40:26 PM
that seems the best way to get max tow package and taller over all gearing
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 30, 2017, 04:27:11 PM
seems like a thing?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 30, 2017, 04:51:37 PM
dealer of course moron when i asked, what tune or what mechanical change is the actual MAX TOW package upgrade. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 04, 2017, 03:50:33 PM
apparently when you put a Chrysler employee discount code on the table your trade decreases 4000$


crooks! 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 05, 2017, 09:52:25 AM
pioneer guys are still a joke


looks a door tag, looks at mileage on dash, walks around truck once at a brisk pace, goes in and looks on phone for 60 seconds and cant find any for sale.


wasted trip ha
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 05, 2017, 01:52:46 PM
gave car max a shot since all the reviews online were good. 

Had a nice chat with a woman, too bad she wasn't single and 10 years younger.  About the most i have talked to someone in years

called before to check if they would even appraise it

too bad they were $15k shy on the number needed. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 05, 2017, 03:26:05 PM
eeek

this is my truck 2years newer same milage

minus bed

https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/3C7WRLFL6GG297030 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 05, 2017, 06:34:28 PM
meh, run it another 50k then delete and clutch it?  haha



there is a sweet crew cab 9liter international on air / flat bed for 6K on FB marketplace.....  tempted to hawg haul for a couple years!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on December 06, 2017, 08:08:48 AM
Nothing na is sweet for towing. Remember your ford?


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Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on January 08, 2018, 07:20:30 PM
2018 KOH trip unknown at this date

new steers ordered
front unit bearings, upper and lower ball joints ordered
new set of 8 straps with axle straps ordered
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Wingman on January 08, 2018, 07:27:31 PM
2018 KOH trip unknown at this date

 ???
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on January 08, 2018, 07:34:28 PM
well at least 3 rigs bitched out so i have to decided if taking vacation and making matt pay for fuel is worth driving my truck and trailer out to support KOH 2018 with 928 and 572 (unprepped since Oct Moab) is worth it.  i have zero desire to fly out and arrange transport and LQ for the week. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on January 09, 2018, 11:02:45 AM
what are the dates?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Harrison on January 09, 2018, 12:59:39 PM
Bummer. Vacay time situation is no good for me or I’d seriously consider having mine sent out.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on January 09, 2018, 02:44:23 PM
trailer on lake bed Feb4 am through Feb 10 11am departure
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Harrison on January 09, 2018, 07:22:22 PM
Considering a battle with HR to let me take the week unpaid and make it happen.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on January 09, 2018, 07:26:08 PM
that has to suck not being able to take vacation when you want lol 
Title: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Harrison on January 09, 2018, 08:56:02 PM
I took time I didn’t really have to make UT happen. This would be pushing it.

Until about 6mo ago unpaid time off was NBD, now it has to go through HR and only gets approved for special occasions. Outsourcing company makes money on billable time and apparently we didn’t have a good year.

I can pretty much take off whenever I want if I have the time accrued... I just don’t right now.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on January 10, 2018, 10:09:19 AM
can I gift you a week or two of the time I have accrued?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on January 20, 2018, 09:39:04 PM
2 new steers, 4 ball joints, and 2 unit bearings on hand.  needs a little coolant added since that message has bee present since the new dealer turbo install. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on January 21, 2018, 07:57:25 PM
All of that are worn out or they get changed as a PM?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on January 21, 2018, 08:00:35 PM
something in the front was loose at 30K, tires have steers have been wearing funny for 20K.  I flipped them about 10K ago.  the truck has 53K on it.  i dont like to do things twice. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 13, 2018, 04:02:53 PM
rolled over 60k

needs a bunch of regular maintenance before next use.  All parts and fluids on the shelf ready for a sunny day(s).  one of Nates guys is interested in looking at the truck. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 22, 2018, 10:48:37 PM
oil change and filter
under hood fuel filter
chassis fuel filter / separator
codes cleared.
broken marker light fixed
DEF filled

60,989 miles. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on April 22, 2018, 06:53:18 PM
unloaded down to VA friday night was painful.  violent shaking from 50-62MPH.  has had some goofy tire wear 40-60K miles and i had been planning to run the steers out another 10K before fixing front end looseness.  rid home loaded much better but after inspection today the front steers are whooped.  confirmed upper ball joint play both sides onlything loose.


changed upper balljoints in about 10 minutes a side.  i think i spent more time looking for something to use as a 60mm socket and a 33m wrench than actually doing it.  had to cut down a 1 3/16 socket to fit but was easy after that.  steers pulled and loaded in ZJ to drop at Lewis tomorrow morning to mount new rubber. 

Front end lubed
637XX miles
front brakes like still 80%
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on April 22, 2018, 11:06:56 PM
crazy balljoints are dead well before brakes.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on June 11, 2018, 07:42:21 AM
got a cash offer on this unit minus flatbed and tuner.  need to find out what its really worth i guess.  could be a good time to bail before it gets into out of warranty work.


2014 Ram 4500 6 speed manual 4x4 60 CA
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on June 12, 2018, 08:38:03 PM
any body interested in a flat bed or tuner  ::)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on June 12, 2018, 08:50:17 PM
hang on to the flatbed till you decide what the next truck is? might need it. or it might sell for what it cost you and who cares.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on June 12, 2018, 10:55:14 PM
probably worth 1200.  too shitty to put on a new truck and too heavy to put on a chopped down box truck toter project.... believe me i have ideas....
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 24, 2018, 01:23:26 PM
same guy back again.  I have been asked to take to his shop to plug in and check DPF pressures ect.


a lot of really good trucks on the market right now. 

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 15, 2018, 09:26:47 AM
needs a clutch

F
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 15, 2018, 09:57:13 AM
https://www.phoenixfriction.com/t-g56-clutch-life-what-to-expect.aspx 


reading that i guess im lucky it lasted 65k



Mike what one do you have?  should i go ceramic or organic?  these prices dont seem bad with everything included , clutch, flywheel, hydralics upgrade

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on October 15, 2018, 10:09:35 AM
I just remembered this is a 4x4.
That makes it way more annoying.

Also things I just remembered: there's a club member with a lift that can lift this unit.

- lift & remove both driveshafts, break all fasteners free, pull most/all trans to block bolts, remove clutch hydraulics
- lower, remove crossmember, support trans and tcase on my bigass trans jack
- lift truck away from trans, then swap clutch bits
- installation is reverse of removal.

I've done this 2x on the ground and it didn't killed me. it's really not bad at all.

call South Bend, talk with them about your use and future power plans, and they'll probably suggest the same hybrid ceramic/organic I have with upgraded hydraulics.

My invoice from the replacement shows SDD3250-g 2005.5-2009 G56 550-650hp 1200tq
Not sure what changed in 2010, hopefully not a big deal.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 14, 2018, 09:15:00 AM
got a service soon light last night.  no other indicators.

google says CCV filter at 67,500 miles.   60$ filter in the valve cover lol

two brake taps and two 0-100% accelerator taps in 10seconds should clear the message apparently. 

bah!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 26, 2018, 06:02:57 PM
SDD3250-GK   clutch ordered with some cyber Monday discount from Garofalo performance! 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 26, 2018, 08:08:58 PM
Sweet.

I drained my batteries leaving a heated seat on
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 03, 2018, 04:46:31 PM
heaviest thing i have ever lifted that i shouldn't have.  holy shit. 


fucking box 2 was  disaster.  hopefully there is no damage

morons.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on December 03, 2018, 05:12:41 PM
I learned that clutches found with G56 have adjustable pressure plate. Not sure on if it can be adjusted in-vehicle, though.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on December 04, 2018, 10:53:26 AM
oh boy. Hope so too. They're heavy bishes.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 13, 2018, 02:43:02 PM
heading south for the holidays to Garofalo Performance for clutch install and parts fall off. 


guess im keeping the truck  8)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on December 13, 2018, 04:40:23 PM
solid. it'll be a new machine.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Harrison on December 14, 2018, 09:54:13 AM
Awesome!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 23, 2018, 02:05:33 PM
put the last jug of DEF into this thing hopefully ever yesterday.

Matt just took off with it south to drop tomorrow! 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on January 12, 2019, 05:40:44 PM
ah,  pleased.


60hp tow tune and free.  he even washed it for me ha!   
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Harrison on January 13, 2019, 11:36:38 AM
Feels good?!?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on January 13, 2019, 01:38:06 PM
feels good.  havent beat on it really, letting the clutch break in do its thing.  and i dont normally tow only 8500lbs so the feeling of nothing behind it with that weight isnt really comparable to anything it usually tows. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 02, 2019, 02:37:13 PM
seems like a solid unit.  put 3 tanks though it so far.  found slight coolant leak right near some kind of TEE that might have gotten banged with the new intake install today. 

otherwise love it.  ready for first good tow this weekend. 



Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 11, 2019, 06:29:52 PM
got about 11.5 MPG loaded going down and about the same with just the trailer coming back.  not bad for the numbers it usually runs. 


confirmed with MikeyG today that its a 60hp tow tune over the standard pickup tune, not the derated cab chassis tune.  that makes way more sense the way the truck feels to have picked up 300 ftlbs. 


apparently my Edge tuner has an expandable input for gages and for 100$ you can get an EGT probe thats plug and play.  ( i lost OBD for post turbo egt with the changes. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004NL3L7G/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1UMBRA5ZTBCX8 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on February 11, 2019, 06:51:04 PM
My edge CTS is my pyrometer, trans temp, and turbo timer. Doubt you could sell a used edge juice for more than you could buy a CTS so you could do the expansion modules. Super easy and work well. No trouble in 4+ years.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on February 11, 2019, 06:55:18 PM
confirmed with MikeyG today that its a 60hp tow tune over the standard pickup tune, not the derated cab chassis tune.  that makes way more sense the way the truck feels to have picked up 300 ftlbs
Excellent  8)

I wonder how long the G56 will last.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 11, 2019, 07:09:56 PM
ya my thoughts also, but mike has a big tune and way taller gears with GVW abuse regularly. 

My trans is pretty fresh with only 30K on a dealer rebuild.  and its got spendy fluid 2 quarts over.  im also not a moron when i drive (proven by my dual mass stock clutch to last 65K grossing 35K or more regularly) 

run it
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: TrailTamer on February 11, 2019, 07:22:17 PM
Yeah. I think the much deeper ratio in axles (4.88?) help the trans to live more than anything.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 11, 2019, 07:51:55 PM
im 4.44 gears in my 4500. 
Title: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on February 11, 2019, 07:56:33 PM
Deeper gears will result in long life. I don’t know trans history before my purchase but I didn’t have issues until around 70-80k with the long gears and similar loads.

Aaron didn’t tow with it, he bought with bad gears and put the 3.23s in. It worked before then with 3.92s (I think - haven’t looked)

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 11, 2019, 07:59:07 PM
and honestly, 80k isnt that bad for the abuse our trucks take in my mind if thats the weak link.  R&R and 1000$? in parts nothing in the long run 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 11, 2019, 08:02:39 PM
My edge CTS is my pyrometer, trans temp, and turbo timer. Doubt you could sell a used edge juice for more than you could buy a CTS so you could do the expansion modules. Super easy and work well. No trouble in 4+ years.

i have the CTS , whatever the 800$ version in 2014 was.  it was just pulling EGT from the OBD with no aftermarket sensor installed.  I have to check the box there were more wires and other bs that came with it when i got it from Nick salvatores. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 11, 2019, 08:03:23 PM
the edge juice was what was one my 01 cummins
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on February 11, 2019, 09:58:09 PM
thought the juice was the tuner Edge. mine is the CTS that's just the monitor out of the box, tune by Smarty Jr. on my rig.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 12, 2019, 07:20:41 AM
hmm maybe your right, i need to check the box for some additional harness thing i recall was in the box.  ill check.  looks like they just sell the CTS2 now
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 16, 2019, 02:46:03 PM
egt probe installed today.  found a brand new one in the tuner box when i went to look at instructions on how to install the expandable accessory one i ordered   ::)   guess i have a spare. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on September 02, 2019, 09:31:06 PM
11mpg with cruse set at 69 with the big trailer and one car 1800miles this weekend. 

pulls like a beast.

ready for 75K fluids/filters before next use.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 04, 2020, 07:26:59 AM
10% brakes this morning driving in to fuel.  haven't moved truck in 2-3 weeks. 

20 pumps and hold on floor and no fluid puddles or reduction in level on resivior. 


just what i need when needing to deliver tonight lol 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: rejeep on August 04, 2020, 09:12:25 AM
if you need anything asap text me..
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 04, 2020, 09:17:23 AM
not sure where to start.  i guess ill see how the drive home goes and get it on the lift.


i suspect a failed MC.  everything in system is untouched since factory.  almost 80k and OEM brakes are better than 60%
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on August 04, 2020, 12:55:07 PM
My truck available but you’d have to waste 90m getting it. I’m on campus expecting to work late and driving a vw.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 04, 2020, 01:34:40 PM
i did a few full pull 2nd gear to lock stops in the delphi lot before i left work.  Both with the trac control on and off and it seems fine now. 

i may have also been fooling myself because i havent driven it in weeks, and the IH stops on a dime with 3/4ton and no weight. 

at least the RAM MC looks like a 10min change minus the supposed tool to cycle abs module.

loaded and rolling as soon as the chip arrives. 

packed a tool back actually  :o
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on August 04, 2020, 09:05:18 PM
no issues to Ft Drum and back.  meh


cruse set at 69 there 12.3mpg loaded
cruse set at 69 back 12.6mpg unloaded.   gota love 4.44 gears   :o
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 25, 2021, 06:56:21 PM
83K on rear drives.  Not sure they will pass inspection on the inside duals.  probably good for another 40k on a trailer. 


looking at tires- crazy amazon has 245 G rated for under 200$ drives or steers delivered.   

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 25, 2021, 06:57:29 PM
or i bet an hour with the tire grover would make them fine lol



225 steers were changed out from bad ball joints at 50k or so and they still look 80% or better
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 16, 2021, 12:08:02 PM
got another recall notice in the mail, this one is even more comical than your water pump might fail and engine fire.

this time- says my lug nuts may have been over tightened during service and the wheel studs may fail causing loss of wheel.   No fix available yet. 


glad i don't let morons work on my vehicles and im the only one thats ever pulled the front tires off the truck, rear have never been removed ha.

83K and still original rear tires and brakes. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on July 16, 2021, 01:33:59 PM
"no fix available"? fuck's sake.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 23, 2021, 08:15:36 PM
87k and first brake sweek heard about 10 miles ago.

expeced fronts, but rears were Fucked!  both lower slider bolts seized.


took 6+ hours to remove rear duals as they have never been off the truck since assembly.  got a 20ton hockey puck for my porto power after breaking 3/8 chain and 3/8 bolts with my 20ton bottle jack on hub and chain through wheel spokes.


iddle'd the truck in 4wd on the lift and went at all 4 rotors aggressive with air chisel and then flap wheel   :o

pad slapped rear, fixed sliders and should be good for another 50K 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Wingman on October 23, 2021, 11:18:02 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 24, 2021, 12:52:01 PM
finally won on this.

used about a full bottle of anti seize for mounting of 6 tires.

found one dual at 35psi, i guess i need to check that again some time. 

new rear pads feel good. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 06, 2021, 02:20:01 PM
Noticed a noise/skip in 4x4 when i got the truck just a hair stuck this week.


I pulled the front diff cover and all looks ok, oil was brand new looking

i dont see any front drive shaft or front axle ujoint play


Transfer case fluid was about 1/2" below fill plug, and was brown / smelled burnt ATF


changed that with the only thing documented, 70$ for 2 quarts mopar Tcase fluid for 44-47 case. 
im thinking the chain is worn and stretched and slips under load?  does it in 4 low and 4 high idling with some ebrake applied at random times. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 06, 2021, 04:16:07 PM
E-brake only loads rear, that doesn’t seem right.

Seems awfully early for chain stretch without being nearly empty of fluid but that’s about the only thing left. Sucks!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 06, 2021, 04:20:35 PM
ebrake while driving on gravel


i didnt ebrake it and idle while it was on the lift.

nothing wrong with rear though in 2wd no noise. 

has to be tcase related, front driveshaft, or wheel joints. 

front diff appears to be some kind of sealed limited slip also, which i wasnt expecting. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 06, 2021, 04:51:10 PM
looks like a 405$ mopar chain is only option, found listing quantity avail 10 on ebay for 300$

bah
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 06, 2021, 05:21:47 PM
Is there a pro cover or something you can investigate the chain condition through without splitting the case?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 06, 2021, 06:22:40 PM
the drain plug lines up with the chain, i can lift the chain about an inch with a screw driver there.  that was how i kinda assumed it was the chain
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on November 07, 2021, 09:52:37 AM
Yeah that does seem like a fair bit of deflection. Weird wear!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 16, 2021, 01:49:47 PM
saw another eggshelled 271 on a youtube channel i follow, so i got back thinking about this today lol 

more research shows pretty common for 100k ish.  the NP cases seem to clunk and wear through the housing / gernade.  the BW cases seem to do the "chain slip" noise so pretty sure thats where im at. 

also in a few places searching found stated the rear case half cant be removed while in truck, case needs to be completely removed, joy.

not paying 611$ for a chain that GVD can have tomorrow. bah.   amazon 148 for no name?!  looks like torqeking has USA chain for 200$
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 19, 2021, 08:44:56 PM
installed, no suprises.

contrary to all threads on the web, could have done it in the truck like a Jeep 231... but was good i guess to have on the bench to inspect and clean up.

man that rear 2 piece shaft is HEAVY lol  def a jack stand item for install
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 21, 2021, 08:42:27 PM
4x4 tested ok in the driveway and didnt egshell after 120 miles of the thruway, so sounds success! 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 03, 2022, 06:50:21 PM
Oil and filter, both fuel filters, front rotors and pads, front end lube 89K service


needs drives and a sticker.  looking at a guy in Palmyra that has a few options for G rated 225s in the 205$ cash range on market place with current date codes
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 10, 2022, 07:22:54 PM
new drives mounted, sticker scheduled next friday at Jacks
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 18, 2022, 11:26:43 AM
sticker achieved 
only 3 pages of recalls attached. 
improper weight class warning also attached to print out lol
164$ to NY for Reg fee bah
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on July 30, 2022, 05:56:55 PM
chain binder yesterday took out the support to my headake rack- its rotten so bad, i think it requires some new steel or a new bed next year. 


dam NY salt. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on July 30, 2022, 07:20:29 PM
Ouch, that’s way too soon

I scraped at some of the rust bubbles and peeling powder coat on mine when I was designing my crane, found the lower panel on the headache rack is gone through where it was tight to the uprights. They sandwiched it instead of butt welding to the inside dimension and that explains all the scale there. No structural issues noted yet though but I’m sure the front face of those uprights are half what they used to be.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 29, 2022, 06:54:27 PM
low coolant light message about 2-3 uses ago, checked today, added about 3/4 of a gallon of HOAT collant 50/50


dip stick about 1/2" high wich is about 1/4" higher than i set it when changing the oil....



ill pretend none of this matters. 

plan to crack the oil drain plug  in a few days after sitting to see whats in the bottom of the pan.  hopefully not 3/4 gallon of coolant   :o
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on November 30, 2022, 09:46:33 AM
yikes
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on November 30, 2022, 03:25:50 PM
I'm leaning towards it's fine as I also realized I checked the oil on a incline pulled up to shop, and I swear it's had a coolant leak since the dealer changed the turbo and fucked with egr fittings at 50k ish. 

I wouldn't be surprised with the wight it pulls and tune it runs. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 30, 2022, 10:49:31 PM
fun load tomorrow!  picking up two escalades if the deal goes through with the RAM/extensions and equipment trailer.  i guess we will see if the reason i made my flat bed extensions flat instead of tilted down like every one questions they should be, will work as i intended. 

had to pull 4 bolts and move the tool box on my trailer, but looks good to 50degrees turning without issue. 

pics of adventure to follow. 

one drives one requires winching. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on December 30, 2022, 11:02:31 PM
Oh boy
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on December 31, 2022, 01:35:52 PM
uneventful success. 

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 02, 2023, 05:20:38 PM
on lift today

tight spot on right rear brake is my pedal pulse   

looks like my pad slap and rotor scuff didnt work.  will order rotors and pads

fluid film still looks great! 

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 03, 2023, 04:38:47 PM
fixed broken headake rack today on driver side.  pass side will probably need fixed next year.  it was only like 18gage box tube.

Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 04, 2023, 04:44:52 PM
ooof  rear brakes today.  took all day to break down and just got new rotors on.

picking up some ebrake shoes tomorrow AM because i dont want to do this again in the near future. 



Also found coolant leak!   2 days on the lift left a nice base ball size puddle-  part of the EGR delete kit has an oring 2" away from the turbo and its leaking.  should be a simple fix once part located. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 05, 2023, 02:41:11 PM
rear parking brakes, pads, rotors done

had to make a 3.5" socket for the goofy spindle nut these trucks have.  you tighten to 70ft lb, then back off 90 degree, then tighten to 30ft lb for final.  nut has like locking surface they are weird. 

if it wasn't slushy id test drive, but filters for rest of maintenance should be here this week and i have floor work to do on other projects, so it gets to sit inside. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 05, 2023, 06:01:42 PM
I think this is the oring i need

68049033AA
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 07, 2023, 02:56:04 PM
93K
fluids and filters changed
new oring in
good test drive with new brake parts

inspection appointment made.

should be set for UT haul. 


reminder to check coolant level in a few miles



Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 24, 2023, 11:14:22 AM
Bah.  Failed for tierod at pitman arm and rear plate light out. 

Annoying.   


Not finding a listing anywhere for tie rod at pitman anywhere on my phone while sitting here in waiting room mom's doctors

Bah
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 24, 2023, 07:35:02 PM
hmm 

looks like its not really a part thats available. weird.


entire drag link available end to end from RA in Mevotech flavor for 100$ which seems too good to be true. 

MEVOTECH MS25975

maybe OEM 68185806AA?


Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on April 01, 2023, 04:42:20 PM
morons put a HD inspection on this thing.

why would you not at least call or ask the customer when it has a normal passenger inspection on it. 

charged me 21 for first fail and 21 again week after.  bah. 



Edge tuner is dead (used as gages only) 
ordered a standalone EGT gage

completely cleaned out and rear seat pulled. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on April 02, 2023, 04:52:38 PM
new egt gage installed.

HOAT coolant topped off after a few drives and changing EGR delete oring. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on June 28, 2023, 03:48:41 PM
split one of those tool boxes in half, cut out and bend up some new side plates to weld in.

2 boxes mounted to ram and bed painted / boxes stripped and sprayed.   
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: etk300ex on June 28, 2023, 05:07:58 PM
nice!
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 09, 2023, 10:05:20 PM
towing home in the rain the other night, abs and traction control lights popped on and cruise was taken away from me.


checked codes today finally.

had a dead or loose OBD power fues, then allowed me to read 13 stored codes of varous randomness

did have a front left wheel speed code, cleared and did not appear after an around the block test drive. 

meh. 


i do have 2 front unit bearings on the shelf for this thing that have new speed sensors if needed.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 11, 2023, 07:17:32 PM
came apart easy, thats nice at least.

needs ujoints.  feels good one pair of caps but feels super dry the other pair and ready to fail.  nice. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 11, 2023, 08:51:18 PM
u joint selection is crap


napa has SKF UJ822  for 130$ tomorrow each  (same joint 58$ at RA)

not much on amazon.  ill try nuway to see if there is a delco cross i cant seem to find. 

42mm or 1.66" dia cap
103.5mm or 4.075" cross 
c clips at outside caps

big girls

GMB 2100006
SKF UJ822
Precision U-Joint - 821  (oriellys)
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 12, 2023, 08:28:36 AM
no luck at nuway, their lookup for RAM4500 shows 3500 parts.

unable to cross above 3 PNs to anything, so dead end there. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 12, 2023, 08:43:10 AM
stumped fleetpride too lol

they said bring it in, doesnt believe me its a 42mm cap ujoint, thats way too big lol 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 12, 2023, 09:17:59 AM
oddly enough summit has given me the correct spicer number

no cross at fleetpride lol

spicer  25-4354X 



finally called the dealer.  200$ a piece on the shelf (non greaseable).   less than 30 seconds to look up at least.  been painfull morning with all others. 


Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: Nick on October 12, 2023, 03:01:03 PM
Fleet pride has went downhill in the last year.  All the good guys from fleet pride went to cook brothers.  Try giving them a call
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 12, 2023, 06:24:17 PM
i didnt think to call cook brothers, or gif reminded me today i should have sent Loco a txt. 

paid 130$ for a single ujoint at napa, non greasable.  boo. 

o well.  truck back together and good test drive.

ill order a ujoint for the other side, and do the other unit bearing next week sometime before Hallowheeling.  give the rest of the truck another good look over.  was sketch on the lift backwards, but it least its moveable and good to go now. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 12, 2023, 06:47:22 PM
my lathe loved the front rotor, first time ever success in good finish on a rotor.  one side was gauled from the bearing failure.

took about 0.020" off and nice mirror finish with power feed.  chucked true and centerd no issues.  drives and brakes smooth.  success. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 21, 2023, 05:03:04 PM
still waiting on Fedex for ujoint for the other side... somewhere between CA and PA it  bah
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 24, 2023, 06:38:31 PM
parts came in.  changed other side unit bearing and ujoint.

man is that long side shaft heavy lol


pulled rear yoke to change a weeping seal, lucky i checked PN before pulling seal.  sourced wrong part. 

looks like only NAPA has it for 3x cost as usual tomorrow, or amazon / RA has it for normal sane pinion seal price. 

level was full so ill probably just reasemble and do the seal next time its on the lift. 


Rear shaft ujoints feel good

Front end lubed. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on October 25, 2023, 06:07:19 PM
wirewheeled rust blisters off my oil pan.  fresh coat of rustoleum.


my brotherin law with his 2015 said when they serviced his rear main seal, his oil pan was two rusty they would not warranty labor unless the 900$ pan was changed lol 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on February 22, 2024, 07:03:22 PM
has popped MAF code twice in 2 weeks. 


appears to pop light after not passing MAF test in 4 drive cycles

rear brakes squeaking again

bah
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 06, 2024, 06:05:34 PM
took 10 years just about, but my driver seat seam blew out last week.



looked on ebay, oem fabric replacement for 23$?   seems too good to be true?  says its not a cover but replacement fabric

https://www.ebay.com/itm/404485705303
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on March 06, 2024, 06:33:13 PM
if it's really a blown seam only still, sew it up?
though at $23 it's almost not worth changing to the heavy duty thread for this job.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 06, 2024, 06:56:03 PM
ya not worth it to put my seam stitch skills up against 23$

actually found this, id like to replace the back also.  has a nice back sweat spot that drives me nuts ha

https://www.ebay.com/itm/403850694929
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 10, 2024, 11:26:11 PM
decided to order both sides front and bottoms, for 100$   (cant imagine it matches 100% so ill change both sides if needed.  driver foam pad replacement is also available for 50$ but i dont think i need that.  will investigate. 


also have a new MAP sensor to try to install and see if that code stops setting. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 12, 2024, 03:18:06 PM
new map sensor installed and codes cleared. 


noticed the two pin sensor thing was gone on old sensor  :o
new sensor, just barley touched it and solder connection failed to same lead.  hit both with solder iron quick and installed.  crazy. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M on March 12, 2024, 03:28:41 PM
dang time flies. I remember when u got this truck, now its 10 yrs ago.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 12, 2024, 03:30:45 PM
ya, crazy. 

102K miles on this guy, just about ready for its 8th oil change.  still looks good.  loving the tool boxes i added, should have did that 10 years ago. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on March 12, 2024, 08:14:20 PM
so some piece of the old MAP sensor is either rattling around somewhere or went out the tail pipe?
eek
at least it's mostly soft stuff.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 12, 2024, 09:44:58 PM
thats what i assumed, but now im not sure.  OEM part showed no signs of any thing soldered or broke free from 2 terminals on the sensor.  new part had the sensor (air temp?)  air flow internal to sensor. 

maybe PN i got is for gas and diesel? and oem didnt have the other sensor? who knows


i guess ill know in 4-5 drive cycles

https://www.autozone.com/engine-management/mass-air-flow-sensor/p/continental-vdo-mass-air-flow-sensor-5wk97506z/380887_0_0?
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2024, 06:35:18 PM
changed sensor now yields a new code P262D immediately every key cycle now. 

"sensor ref voltage 7 circuit low"

awesome
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on March 15, 2024, 07:56:03 PM
Is it just open? Hard to find spec on resistance to check if it’s close
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2024, 07:59:01 PM
i have to double check to make sure the sensor i got is correct. 

i havent had time to investigate.  inspection due end of month also, bah



ready for hot rod season and dailys that require nothing after built. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 17, 2024, 09:44:55 PM
https://store.mopar.com/oem-parts/mopar-mass-airflow-sensor-68002441ac 


mopar PN shows two blank pins.  dont feel like 300$ mopar sensor vs 37$ 

might try this one that says its same PN but amazon says 07-10 cummins

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09ST5Q6SD/ref=sspa_dk_detail_6?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B09ST5Q6SD&pd_rd_w=F4TDq&content-id=amzn1.sym.0d1092dc-81bb-493f-8769-d5c802257e94&pf_rd_p=0d1092dc-81bb-493f-8769-d5c802257e94&pf_rd_r=YNAHNSTE9K1RTZTR2E1Y&pd_rd_wg=u7QiQ&pd_rd_r=81ccc8ae-ffdb-46d6-bcd6-c8672bdb5047&s=automotive&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWwy
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 17, 2024, 09:46:19 PM
this is the one i put in the truck this week, has the little sensor on the two open leads

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BVK4QVKP/?coliid=I15FVE261KPUK4&colid=2GUK3QMBDO1OG&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 25, 2024, 10:19:18 AM
345$ for a mopar MAF sensor, alot of the forums are saying you must get a mopar sensor only.

30$ amazon and ebay sensors that say are compatable i guess have a bad wrap.



this is annoying.

going to do some voltage checks as procedure outlines i guess. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: gif on March 25, 2024, 02:51:12 PM
I buy used OEM MAF for my builds (ebay).  I never have had a bad one.  knock on wood... ::)



345$ for a mopar MAF sensor, alot of the forums are saying you must get a mopar sensor only.

30$ amazon and ebay sensors that say are compatable i guess have a bad wrap.



this is annoying.

going to do some voltage checks as procedure outlines i guess.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 25, 2024, 03:50:47 PM
i have never had a bad maf for an LS, just use what ever the donar had.  i guess 6.7cummins is special.    Even Mikey G that did the tune agrees, only mopar/contanetal work, he has them from cummins for 250$


i think im going to steal the one out of my brother in laws truck this weekend and swap it in.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on March 28, 2024, 08:22:24 PM
installed 4 new OE style seat covers and they look great, 99% match to OEM

ended up switching lower seat foam side to side, so my driver seat is fresh like new, and the passenger seat that had some wear that edge is now on the inside so its also good. 


next time ill have a pair of hog ring pliers on hand, i didnt realize there were ringed in pleats that i had to disconnect and connect the new fabric too in a few places. 

overall, super happy for 100$.  took about an hour to do all 4 after learning on the first one a bit. 
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: mr.mindless on March 29, 2024, 08:09:40 PM
Sounds like 100% win

I guess I’ve got 100k on my seat covers and new foam now. It still feels perfect.
Title: Re: Brandy new 4500 Cummins
Post by: M4wdFab on April 03, 2024, 04:29:48 PM
switched back to original sensor. 

cleaned OE sensor with spray electrical contact cleaner.

no change.  bid on an OE ebay sensor, then going to dealer i guess.