M4wd&Fabrications
Projects place => Classifieds => Wanted => Topic started by: TrailTamer on November 14, 2017, 11:24:41 AM
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Tom is trying to get at least a functioning transmission for his '64 CJ5 with the Chevy V-8.
It used to have T14 3 speed. We're missing parts and cannot locate a front bearing retainer anywhere so he's considering to abandon rebuilding the T14. Do anyone have a SM465 for sale? Either 2wd or 4wd will work just fine.
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Don't have a sm465 but do have a sm465 to dana 300 adapter.
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I think I have a "modern" SM465 in the shop, GM bell housing and hydro throwout bearing
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is that the one i gave you mark?
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Yup. Didn’t that come out of a dump truck or something?
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it was out of an 84 K30
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trying to fit anything chevy into that little short CJ5 isnt going to work
the 3 speed trans i gave you didnt bolt up with the adaptor you had?
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Offroad Design makes a 32spl tail shaft and adapter to make a super short and stout combo.
That was going to be my solution if the auto didn’t work out.
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trying to fit anything chevy into that little short CJ5 isnt going to work
Enlighten me on why it won't fit?
T14 8-11/16" long
SM465 12" long
The SM465 bolt directly to the bellhousing we have, so no adapter needed, not 3" longer as if we reuse the adapter.
the 3 speed trans i gave you didnt bolt up with the adaptor you had?
Nope.
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If we do use a SM465, chances are we will use this. Only 1" thick.
https://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/adapters/transmission-to-transfer-case/sm465-to/kit-462/
(http://www.novak-adapt.com/images/pics/transfer_case_adapters/kit_462r.jpg)
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Tom have the overdrive unit on back of the D18, making it a 5 speed with a 4 speed main transmission 8)
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You really have 6 forward, 2 reverse...
Overdrives don’t increase speed.. they just reduce operating rpm..
So you can run at 50 mph 500 rpm less
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i guess when i said it wasn't going to work, i delete confounded expensive solutions to force fit big things into small holes for my mind.
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you will also find that 4" in an early CJ5 is enough to make you have to start to push the engine forward like i told tom i did in mine. your early CJ is even shorter i believe than my 75, 81, or 83 would be.
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i had a 60's CJ5 Buick 225 / T98 / d300 texas bolt. This was the the shortest & strongest combo at the time. I was on 36" TSL SX tires. 2.5" lift SOA.
My rear driveshaft was crazy short and high angle. you can see it in the bottom pic
(http://www.fingerlakes4x4.org/twg189/cache/2004_Paragon_aen.jpg.small.jpg)
(http://www.fingerlakes4x4.org/twg189/cache/2004_Paragon_ach.jpg.small.jpg)
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my CJ5 was I6/T18/D20.
since i had the T18 shipped to my apartment in Rochester i had some planning and logistics to work out to get it done quick. I loaded the monster trans into the CJ5 passenger foot well, and drove to buffalo on a Friday after work. Following my crazy plan to swap in my moms garage with minimal tools and no time to screw up, i basically kept the D20 in its home to keep drive shafts same, moving the motor forward to account for the long trans. I moved the engine forward 3" Friday night with new frame mount sleeves, and a snub nose fan. Saturday I pulled the t14 and swapped in the T18 with new clutch and other bits swapped in. Had an issue that was determined the input shaft was too long bottoming out on the crank when trans bolts tightened up. 4 washers horseshoe shaped washers as spacers between bell housing and trans was a temp fix since i didn't have time to pull trans again and grind off a 1/16" from the input.
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that's when I thought all you guys were cool..
CJ5's and Paragon was what I grew up on :D
now you're all like buggies and Hammers ;D
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had some good trails cut behind my apartment there to out in Gates lol
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lots of fun was had back there... ate a tire or two if i remember correctly.. and one cherokee.. haha