Post by: mr.mindless on February 26, 2016, 09:35:10 PM
texted on this, wondering if work can be done or strictly storage. I assume the latter, otherwise it sounds way too good to be true
other guy with the tan one door steel building got back to me at $950 after I pinged him a second time. Too rich for my blood I think.
Post by: mr.mindless on February 26, 2016, 10:27:42 PM
http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/19605320/1685-Dewey-Ave-Rochester-NY/
if I was made of money this would be sweet
http://www.cityfeet.com/cont/ForLease/LN19605293/1184-Emerson-Street-Rochester-NY-14606
but I'm not spending 20g a year even if I had it. if I needed retail space I guess that would be a different story.
Post by: mr.mindless on February 26, 2016, 10:55:38 PM
http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/19220240/60-66-Mount-Hope-Avenue-Rochester-NY/
With enough of us to split it (8+), this would work. IF they'd lease at that rate to our cute little zero-credit-history LLC. Which I don't think I would in their shoes.
http://www.cityfeet.com/cont/ForLease/LN19525716/135-Dodge-Street-Rochester-NY-14606
Post by: mr.mindless on February 26, 2016, 11:07:11 PM
http://www.cityfeet.com/cont/ForLease/LN14605463/460-Buffalo-Road-Rochester-NY-14611
Post by: mr.mindless on February 26, 2016, 11:29:19 PM
Rate seems too good to be true. Further than I'd like but not by much. This doesn't look bad at all if it could be split among 3 of us.
http://www.cityfeet.com/cont/ForLease/LN19630928/12-Industrial-Park-Circle-Rochester-NY-14624
Post by: mr.mindless on February 28, 2016, 12:18:50 AM
Seems the best option if there's decent power there.
Spencer and Brett, let me know what you can commit to. I'll just take a part of it if I can get a thousand or two sqft with and overhead door within my own budget if I have to but I'd be happy to help you guys out if we can make it work.
Post by: TrailTamer on February 28, 2016, 09:50:15 PM
Post by: TrailTamer on February 29, 2016, 10:53:14 AM
Post by: rejeep on February 29, 2016, 11:16:40 AM
Post by: TrailTamer on February 29, 2016, 12:03:48 PM
Post by: mr.mindless on February 29, 2016, 12:25:41 PM
Did drive by yesterday. Area looks pretty ideal. Outdoor parking looks limited but exists. Building appears to be owned by the largest tenant. Probably try to call this afternoon.
Tapatalking in traffic
Post by: mr.mindless on March 15, 2016, 12:27:35 PM
It also looks like a 6,000# telehandler rents for ~$300/day (BlueLine, formerly VolvoRents, who appear to have closed the Jefferson Road location)
Similar price to stick building a shed or pole building of similar size with 3% of the effort or time spent.
Not sure if bitchneighbor would say boo about it, doubt it's covered explicitly in town code. 1-2 of them in the back yard where the eagles were would sure swallow up a lot of things and get them out of my way and out of the weather.
Post by: mr.mindless on March 15, 2016, 12:28:12 PM
http://rochester.craigslist.org/prk/5457681150.html
http://rochester.craigslist.org/prk/5487303513.html
http://rochester.craigslist.org/prk/5485492424.html
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 15, 2016, 12:37:10 PM
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Post by: dubt on March 15, 2016, 12:57:04 PM
Post by: mr.mindless on March 15, 2016, 01:43:32 PM
I could really at least use a place to get shit out of the garage and out of the yard-tractor, tires, axles, motors, spare parts, etc. Something wider than 8’ would be neat but even 8*20 would be huge... And instantly full.
Tapatalking in traffic
Post by: carchameleon on March 15, 2016, 01:43:39 PM
doubt it's covered explicitly in town code. 1-2 of them in the back yard where the eagles were would sure swallow up a lot of things and get them out of my way and out of the weather.
I can tell you about the town code... i'm looking into putting a just under 600sf garage in my back yard..
I thought you were planning to move though
Post by: mr.mindless on March 15, 2016, 01:44:54 PM
Tapatalking in traffic
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2016, 01:47:15 PM
Also found three new listings of possible note
http://rochester.craigslist.org/prk/5457681150.html
http://rochester.craigslist.org/prk/5487303513.html
http://rochester.craigslist.org/prk/5485492424.html
Called on last link 800$ a month with 110/220. no auto work AT ALL. next to bakery and somthing else bla bla bla. guy very difficult to understand, did not want to give address or useful details over phone. part of the limo place down the road just across 390 at rush 52'deep by "3 cars wide" "tall door "
Post by: carchameleon on March 15, 2016, 01:49:17 PM
I’m well aware of the 600/250 (?) sqft and percentage rules but not about how they potentially apply to things like a sea can.
Tapatalking in traffic
got it, i missed that part.. haha
maybe i'll ask when i talk to the town again, i would assume thats a no
Post by: CJ on March 15, 2016, 01:50:43 PM
This place is f;ing AWESOME. If the shop fits tractors, it can fit our RV. Looks like they parked (18) 53' semi trailers around the shop, we should be good :)
http://www.nothnagle.com/R283431
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2016, 02:50:40 PM
oof for taxes that i bet would almost double on sale also ha
Post by: jacel86 on March 15, 2016, 04:22:56 PM
Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
Post by: jacel86 on March 15, 2016, 04:23:18 PM
Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
Post by: luvmyxj on March 15, 2016, 04:46:21 PM
Volvo rents in Henrietta is now the Duke company.lol, been that way for like 3 years now
Post by: mr.mindless on March 15, 2016, 06:00:29 PM
Post by: Nick on March 15, 2016, 08:03:00 PM
Marion isn't that far away, right?
This place is f;ing AWESOME. If the shop fits tractors, it can fit our RV. Looks like they parked (18) 53' semi trailers around the shop, we should be good :)
http://www.nothnagle.com/R283431
Marion is where life is worth living :) it's normal around here to have shit everywhere so no one cares
Post by: M4wdFab on March 15, 2016, 08:45:39 PM
Post by: Nick on March 15, 2016, 09:09:49 PM
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 16, 2016, 08:23:14 AM
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Post by: CJ on March 16, 2016, 08:24:21 AM
Marion isn't that far away, right?
This place is f;ing AWESOME. If the shop fits tractors, it can fit our RV. Looks like they parked (18) 53' semi trailers around the shop, we should be good :)
http://www.nothnagle.com/R283431
Marion is where life is worth living :) it's normal around here to have shit everywhere so no one cares
We're going to look at the property today at 3. Found out the shop is well insulated, has a loading dock, (3) 14' doors, and the pool behind the house is heated.
Post by: M4wdFab on March 16, 2016, 08:26:36 AM
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 16, 2016, 08:28:16 AM
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 16, 2016, 08:49:30 AM
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Post by: mr.mindless on March 16, 2016, 09:12:22 AM
Post by: M4wdFab on March 16, 2016, 09:21:38 AM
I could fill 2 dump trucks with trash right now though due to winter lazyness.
Post by: mr.mindless on March 16, 2016, 09:30:59 AM
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 16, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
Be great for summer time get together and trailer friendly.
He and I are hopefully working on some exciting things together.
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Post by: mr.mindless on March 16, 2016, 10:25:30 AM
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 16, 2016, 10:48:58 AM
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Post by: mr.mindless on March 16, 2016, 11:57:09 AM
Post by: rejeep on March 16, 2016, 01:26:28 PM
even subdivided its $2500 a mo for 10K feet..
that's more than my mortgage payment
Post by: M4wdFab on March 16, 2016, 01:31:52 PM
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 16, 2016, 09:56:53 PM
Month to month
Depending on size u need he would build it out and or work out a deal to allow you to partition it out.
He said he just dumped 30k into electrical.
10k sq ft gated parking lot with private keys and security cameras.
Was just thinking of you guys when he and I spoke today.
How cool would it be to all be in one big space.
Just putting up options.
I know... it's always too far for Smike!
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Post by: M4wdFab on March 17, 2016, 09:43:22 AM
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 17, 2016, 09:49:22 AM
Never mind. Sorry for tying to help.
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Post by: M4wdFab on March 17, 2016, 10:05:04 AM
http://rochester.craigslist.org/off/5489475314.html
no clue why anyone would do that, as your basically buying, owning, maintaining the place, with zero risk to landlord
Post by: rejeep on March 17, 2016, 10:06:37 AM
if you cant get a loan, you got to rent right?
Post by: cracker on March 17, 2016, 10:09:42 AM
Post by: rejeep on March 17, 2016, 10:11:21 AM
Post by: mr.mindless on March 17, 2016, 11:05:29 AM
Post by: M on March 18, 2016, 04:08:57 PM
usually including taxes, I think? it seems like a weird setup to me, but I guess it works and has its place.
yes - the rent, property taxes, and building insurance, thus the triple net.
When I was renting a warehouse for my company, I refused to do triple net.
Post by: rejeep on March 18, 2016, 04:43:02 PM
almost all of our leases are triple net..
only way to make $ doing that game..
Post by: mr.mindless on April 18, 2016, 02:28:01 PM
Post by: M4wdFab on April 18, 2016, 04:00:27 PM
no auto work there, next to a hair salon or bakery or something
Post by: mr.mindless on April 18, 2016, 04:05:29 PM
Post by: mr.mindless on May 05, 2016, 02:03:30 PM
$550 in Churchville
http://rochester.craigslist.org/prk/5567263537.html
Post by: KingtheZJ on May 05, 2016, 02:09:50 PM
haven't seen this one before
$550 in Churchville
http://rochester.craigslist.org/prk/5567263537.html
been listed for over a year
looks low and weird floor. too far
Post by: mr.mindless on May 17, 2016, 12:09:53 PM
http://rochester.craigslist.org/off/5551544876.html
Not that far for me. Split with Spencer?
Ready to throw in the damn towel at home, can't deal with the squeeze. At all. I hope I can get shit done this week, then I need a BREAK.
Post by: carchameleon on May 17, 2016, 02:53:40 PM
don't think its the best neighborhood, could be worse never actually went to look at it
Post by: M4wdFab on May 17, 2016, 03:12:03 PM
Post by: carchameleon on May 17, 2016, 03:35:02 PM
Post by: mr.mindless on May 17, 2016, 03:51:23 PM
I think I've seen that Saginaw drive place up for rent too at some point. I know I saw something over there
Post by: CJ on May 17, 2016, 04:16:05 PM
Another plus - if Custom Truck need extra hands for a job, there is the possibility they could farm out the work to you guys!
16 Minutes - Mike Mike
20 Minutes - Smike
Great Neighborhood!!
Easy Access to the highway!!
It's AT LEAST worth a walk through (It's such a cool building!!) - any time of day or evening. Just let me know when you want to take a look!!
Post by: KingtheZJ on May 17, 2016, 05:19:26 PM
Post by: mr.mindless on May 17, 2016, 05:24:51 PM
That reminds me - what day next week were you talking about doing the track visit?
Post by: CJ on May 17, 2016, 06:56:26 PM
Next week I'm open Tuesday, Thursday for a site visit for shop space.
Post by: KingtheZJ on May 17, 2016, 07:14:23 PM
Post by: mr.mindless on May 18, 2016, 08:54:53 AM
Tapatalking in traffic
Post by: KingtheZJ on May 19, 2016, 08:13:44 AM
Thursday 5/26 at 5pm would be perfect if that works for everyone. I have a commitment at 7pm in Pittsford so can push a little later if needed. I'm happy to coordinate directly if that's easier.
Any idea on availability of outside storage/parking? That would be key.
Post by: M4wdFab on May 19, 2016, 08:47:37 AM
somethings to consider that usually large buildings and landlords lack
status of concrete floor- can you drill for lifts
power status / meter status
lighting?
outdoor storage
neighboring business noise issues
water / bathroom on site?
Post by: CJ on May 19, 2016, 11:28:48 AM
Plenty of outside storage, with a fence and gate
Bathrooms are a possibility, one of the tenants has a Porta potty, there is 1 bathroom at Custom Truck
Indoor storage is the same sq. Ft. Price
Post by: CJ on May 19, 2016, 11:32:29 AM
Post by: KingtheZJ on May 19, 2016, 11:36:43 AM
no bathroom/water is status quo non issue.
running list of questions:
220v?
electric meters / intent of split / monthly flat rate
breaker location
lighting / switches
outdoor storage of trailers
outdoor storage of unregistered vehicles
neighboring business / noise issues
water / bathroom on site?
refuse collection
storage of used motor oil (<100 gallons)
heat
build out cost / who is funding.
clarify shared loading dock expectations
Post by: KingtheZJ on May 19, 2016, 11:38:22 AM
I can't post pics from my phone, I'll upload to FB (sorry mark. W.)
if you text them to me i can upload
Post by: M4wdFab on May 19, 2016, 11:49:53 AM
nope.
Post by: CJ on May 19, 2016, 02:02:02 PM
Here's the Craigslist ad:
55,000 square ft commercial space available for many uses. Lease as is or we'll build out as you need. Loading dock and multiple 14h doors, 22-30' ceilings. 80x80 updated automotive shop currently a part of this property may also be available.
In addition multiple offices also available. Parking available for approximately 75 vehicles.
Willing to discuss all offers.
Here's what I can comment on:
running list of questions:
220v? - building has 440 3 phase with modern transformers, a line will have to be run to your selected area.
electric meters / intent of split / monthly flat rate - depends, if you want a meter you can build the install cost into the rent/lease. Owner might cover half the cost
breaker location - accessible by tenants
lighting / switches - depending on the area, owner may reimburse (in the form of rent) for upgrades done to code
outdoor storage of trailers - plenty of room
outdoor storage of unregistered vehicles - not an issue. Parking area is gated and fenced
neighboring business / noise issues - in an industrial area next to active train tracks, no noise issues anytime
water / bathroom on site? - discussed below. water is on site, and if willing to do work, could be reimbursed through rent
refuse collection - Ask Owner
storage of used motor oil (<100 gallons) - not an issue
heat - gas available, would have to pay for meter or install a propane tank
build out cost / who is funding - depends which areas you choose, some are already partitioned off well w/ lights, some are raw industrial and will need partitions
clarify shared loading dock expectations - loading dock is currently unused by tenants. There is a OH door to the dock, man door, then an OH door to the main warehouse space. If needed you could leave the loading dock door unlocked for unattended deliveries, lock the OH door to the warehouse.
Post by: CJ on May 19, 2016, 02:09:09 PM
https://www.facebook.com/CoraJokinen/media_set?set=a.1186276758058377.1073741849.100000281915587&type=3
Site Plan:
Post by: CJ on May 19, 2016, 02:24:58 PM
the dreeded 390/490/590 traffic stand still to get near that place ha. would be a 35-40 min drive for me any day after work from 3:30-6pm.
nope.
Build out an apartment/loft in the warehouse.
Take the t-way to and from work, quicker and easier.
Post by: M4wdFab on May 19, 2016, 02:42:47 PM
i still cant believe homestead.net is gone. every property search site i have tried to use has less than 10% of usefulness and features homestead.net had. Its unbearable.
Post by: carchameleon on May 20, 2016, 07:42:01 AM
Post by: M4wdFab on May 20, 2016, 09:15:01 AM
still annoying.
Post by: carchameleon on May 20, 2016, 12:29:25 PM
Post by: KingtheZJ on May 24, 2016, 02:05:01 PM
Are we on for Thursday evening? 5pm work?
Post by: KingtheZJ on May 25, 2016, 07:41:05 PM
Post by: CJ on May 26, 2016, 03:53:55 PM
8,000 SF clear span building
More buildings
53 acres
Nice house
On a major road (good for deliveries)
In price range
not TOO far
http://landandfarm.com/property/53_Acre_Fruit_Vegetable_Farm-1590652/
On another note - just found my new GO-TO website. Has lots of For Sale By Owner (FSBO) listings, like this awesome property, that I never saw until it was too late.
Post by: CJ on May 27, 2016, 08:56:09 AM
Check out this 3 bds • 2.0 ba • 1,803 sqft home at 7399 W Henrietta Rd that I found on Zillow: http://u.zillow.com/p26DKI
Post by: M4wdFab on May 27, 2016, 09:55:38 AM
No more ties with random realitor, she said she is pretty much retired haha.
Post by: M4wdFab on May 27, 2016, 10:06:56 AM
Post by: mr.mindless on May 27, 2016, 10:47:12 AM
weird driveway and flag lot tucked in between other smaller lots.
backs up to 390. probably explains the price
Post by: M4wdFab on May 27, 2016, 11:25:36 AM
cant find property lines. imagery is clouded by woods
Post by: CJ on May 27, 2016, 12:50:39 PM
Post by: Wingman on May 27, 2016, 01:12:48 PM
Post by: M4wdFab on May 27, 2016, 01:32:05 PM
full basement
Post by: CJ on May 27, 2016, 01:55:33 PM
Here's the parcel map, there are 2 parcels which helps with taxes:
Post by: CJ on May 27, 2016, 02:03:34 PM
Post by: M4wdFab on May 27, 2016, 02:53:29 PM
Post by: M4wdFab on May 27, 2016, 04:25:59 PM
Post by: CJ on May 27, 2016, 11:36:20 PM
i thought it was pretty over priced listed 30K above assesment and the house is that beat lol
Seems like expectations might need to be adjusted, if this over priced POS sold in less than 18 days? Sorry, just trying to put things in perspective.
Post by: mr.mindless on November 25, 2016, 11:30:10 PM
http://rochester.craigslist.org/off/5849127891.html
Post by: KingtheZJ on November 28, 2016, 10:13:41 AM
for me, $800/month (probably plus utilities) is too much for side work. I just dont have enough time to do that much work to make money after paying the bills.
you want to flip TDIs?
hypothetically i would see it something like this:
buy car for $800
Put in $500 of parts
Pay yourself $50/hr for 20 hours of labor = 1000
sell for $2800
you only made $500 to put toward rent. so need to do 2 cars a month @40 hours total to pay rent and make money.
imo, the margins are too small.
Post by: mr.mindless on November 28, 2016, 11:28:03 AM
Post by: M4wdFab on November 28, 2016, 11:44:13 AM
location is also huge. driving =time and money. bathroom needed ect