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Title: 3ph converter
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2014, 10:29:11 AM
i need a 1ph 240 to 3 ph 240 converter for the new lathe.  decided it be easier to do than swap the other motor.   a cheap one is fine for a lathe. 


like this?


its a 1.5hp motor on the lathe.  i have a 1hp 220 1phase motor.  sounds like same power would be given from both with a static converter, so 48$ is way easier than mounts, pulleys and hassel.  plus, i think it has a reverse switch on the late also.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HD-1-3-HP-Static-Phase-Converter-Mill-Drill-Saw-MADE-IN-USA-Single-to-three-/251081245073?_trksid=p2054897.l5670
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: etk300ex on August 18, 2014, 10:38:16 AM
240V 3PH delta?  aka no neutral.  makes a huge difference on phase converter.
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2014, 10:39:34 AM
say what?

Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2014, 10:44:06 AM
that box makes my 1.5 hp motor run on single phase at 1hp?  fine for a rotary lathe.

that was my take
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: etk300ex on August 18, 2014, 10:54:36 AM
Light to moderately loaded motor loads only - Wye wound (2/3 capacity), Delta wound (1/2 capacity)

Intended for wye wound motors. Some delta wound motors may operate but will produce 50% of their nameplate HP.

Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2014, 10:59:06 AM
ok so .75hp instead of 1hp worst case.

would the tag say how its wound?  its probably a 1960's motor
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: etk300ex on August 18, 2014, 11:02:47 AM
There's what I was looking for

A static phase converter is a startup device for three phase motors running on single phase power. They generate three phase power only long enough for the motor to start up, not continuously like a rotary phase converter would. Once the three phase motor has started up, the static phase converter circuitry disconnects itself, and the motor continuse to run on single phase power. Two of the three windings receive power during running, so horsepower output is reduced to between 2/3 to 1/2 of the rated motor horsepower. For example, a 20 HP motor will start with the power of a 20 HP motor but run as a 10 HP motor.
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2014, 11:06:00 AM
ya, i under stand that.  they just provide a weak 3rd leg.  fine for mill or late with lots of spinning mass. 

clicked by it now!
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: etk300ex on August 18, 2014, 11:06:48 AM
If your running for long periods of time, you will most likely burn up the motor.

I've seen static with additional capacitors to run continuous 3ph, but these are not doing that. 

I'd go with a rotary converter, only $100 for 1-3hp.
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: etk300ex on August 18, 2014, 11:07:48 AM
they provide no 3rd leg after power up.
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2014, 11:19:13 AM
i saw more like 350$ for a 3hp rotary
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: etk300ex on August 18, 2014, 11:23:39 AM
http://www.temcoindustrialpower.com/products/Rotary_Phase_Converters/PC0000.html
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: etk300ex on August 18, 2014, 11:24:36 AM
would the tag say how its wound?  its probably a 1960's motor

if its still there
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: Ryan on August 18, 2014, 12:47:02 PM
http://www.temcoindustrialpower.com/products/Rotary_Phase_Converters/PC0000.html

Requires a motor to work correctly?
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: Ryan on August 18, 2014, 12:48:12 PM
This is whats needed,

http://www.temcoindustrialpower.com/products/Rotary_Phase_Converters/PC0002.html
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: etk300ex on August 18, 2014, 12:52:49 PM
right you are
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: M4wdFab on August 18, 2014, 01:04:08 PM
jeff runs his lathe and mill on a static converter fine,  ill give it a try for 48$
Title: Re: 3ph converter
Post by: etk300ex on August 18, 2014, 01:09:13 PM
agreed