Oh, also took it off-roading on what I would consider a blue trail at RC. Camper, canoe, and bikes on board. Nice dirt road quickly turned in to a Jeep trail, no warning, no place to turn around. Mountain on one side creek on the other. It had fresh stone and a new culvert 250' before this. After a quarter mile of white-knuckle 4-lo, maybe I'm exaggerating but it seemed like it, I run into a stock XJ coming back that said he had to turn around. He said there's no way you'll be able to go much further. Luckily, I had my DeWalt chain saw. I found the best spot I could, which was slightly off camber, and made a turnaround on both sides of the road and did a 15 point turn. Quote of the day from Abigail spotting me trying to back up into the turn around "Ok now really crank it." Me "that's as cranked as its getting lol."