Author Topic: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine  (Read 6790 times)

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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #60 on: May 25, 2021, 08:51:16 PM »
Wider than 572? I'm surprised!
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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #61 on: May 25, 2021, 08:52:44 PM »
572 is like 83" wide


this thing is like 88" with Dodge axles.

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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #62 on: May 25, 2021, 08:53:16 PM »
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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #63 on: May 27, 2021, 05:31:07 PM »
loaded.  two skinnies on the front and it fits in the wheel wells  chassis still to wide to fit past trailer shelves so it is where it is.  hopefully the trailer wont be noticeable towing different with out as much pin weight.  meh. 


ready to roll minus cooler and clothes bag.

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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #64 on: May 31, 2021, 06:32:37 PM »
over all this thing was sweet this weekend for easy blues and some fun wheeling.  gearing seems fine for now on easy blacks also but i was being super nice to it as front end is super stock weak stuff. 


next upgrades

rear HD cover
needs 2x faster orbital
much more inner fender trimming needed on front wheel wells
rough country XJ dumpster shocks SUCK.  was more tolerable after letting some air out day2 meh
front axle shafts upgrade
gears upgrades
maybe rear 231 SYE upgrade

othewise not bad for what i have into it. 


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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #65 on: May 31, 2021, 08:51:21 PM »
1100 to amazon gets you

35 spline D60 spool
35 spine 4340 Dodge inners with CAD delete kit
35 spline 4340 Ford 11 3/8" outer stubs
35 spline Revolution gear drive slugs
two spl55 non gresable D60 spicer ujoints

i guess i should look up 5.38 gears and rear disk kit and just be done with this thing haha

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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #66 on: May 31, 2021, 09:25:15 PM »
have carts built for painful gear swaps with the D70 just need to verify splines on some things and if there is some other rear axle damage i need to know about after this weekend.

5.86 gears from rock auto looks about to be the least amount of pain. 

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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #67 on: May 31, 2021, 10:20:38 PM »
The D70U most likely have 32 spline axle shafts.

Dodge D80’s 35 spline axle shafts is a direct bolt in after you put a 35 spline carrier in it.

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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #68 on: May 31, 2021, 10:26:08 PM »
ya, rock auto suggested 32 spline.  i was planning to buy a 4.56 carrier and 32 spline spiders so i could weld up a spool to hold the new 5.86 gears.


i bet the stock D70 shafts and 32 spline is fine for 40s and 4.0l

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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #69 on: June 01, 2021, 08:15:26 AM »
Crazy idea but as you have axles that can take much lower ratio, why not go with either 6.17 or 7.17?

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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #70 on: June 01, 2021, 05:21:11 PM »
pinions tend to get small and weak at those ratios

i guess i didnt mention my carts had 5.86 gears with a 231 should be plenty fine.  it was almost tolerable with 4.10s 

im still not sure i want to dump 2k into this thing, i should probably look whats making all the noise out back first. 

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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #71 on: June 07, 2021, 02:26:13 PM »
confirmed rear end noise was my failure at welding the limited slip into a spool.  i was pretty aggressive, im surprised it failed so soon.   went 3X this time but really there is no good way sadly. 

needs a new diff cover.  cant find the one brett gave me, and i might recall i tried it on the buggy and it leaked so bad i scrapped it now that i think about it. 

even a stock front D60 cover would be better than nothing if anyone has one laying around.

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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #72 on: June 07, 2021, 03:01:43 PM »

needs a new diff cover.  cant find the one brett gave me, and i might recall i tried it on the buggy and it leaked so bad i scrapped it now that i think about it. 


 :'(

I think it's the same one he modified and used it to make the installation guide.

http://www.jantz4x4.com/jantz.php?p=manual&pro=girdle&mid=jgi

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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #73 on: June 21, 2021, 04:31:44 PM »
i guess diff cover prices have doubled like everything else, so i pulled the torn D70 cover out of the scrap pile, banged on it, welded it, made a 1/4" half ring for it and stuck some 1/4" and 3/8" flat bar on it.  should be good for some more rocks.  Grabbing an orbital that should be 2x faster from Matt tomorrow. 

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Re: Ryan Larry Summer Salt ZJ Machine
« Reply #74 on: June 21, 2021, 08:24:47 PM »
crane dont care.  picks up either end no problem