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Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on January 16, 2012, 09:48:46 AM
8.8 swap completed

Driverside Motor mount replaced

Trans swap tomorrow.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on January 17, 2012, 09:15:28 AM
she is drying off in the shop! 
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on January 18, 2012, 09:55:38 AM
what a pile, this thing won like rounds 1-3 so far
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Nick on January 18, 2012, 10:00:11 AM
Is the transmission in neutral? When I did my truck I did not have it in neutral and the stick would go in fine but it just would not shift. I had to pull the stick out and shift it by hand into neutral them everything worked good. Just curious if that is your problem
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on January 18, 2012, 10:03:15 AM
ill try that first but im gona say that should not matter at all as long as the stick is put in properly.  i had to have fucked up putting in the main fork i blame matt for worrying about where RTV was when i was putting on the back half of the case!


Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Nick on January 18, 2012, 10:09:14 AM
My truck stick goes in the exact same there is no way to put it in "properly" just put it in.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on January 18, 2012, 10:10:59 AM
this ax5 is a ball that goes into a socket.... you really cant f it up....
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: mr.mindless on January 18, 2012, 10:41:48 AM
NV4500 and RTOO9513 both have the stick go through into the actual shift forks, if it's not in N it's somewhere between a total bitch and impossible to get it placed right.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Nick on January 18, 2012, 01:13:40 PM
Warming up for a I told ya so
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on January 18, 2012, 01:22:56 PM
better get a good blanket


Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Nick on January 18, 2012, 06:14:49 PM
Told ya so!!!
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on January 19, 2012, 01:08:29 AM
nope, main fork was put in wrong....


nothing to do with the shifter because i already knew that.



road tested and good to go.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Nick on January 19, 2012, 10:04:09 AM
Told ya so!!!
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on January 19, 2012, 11:19:41 AM
nick, hope folding your blanket wasnt too hard for your candy ass last night.


Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Nick on January 19, 2012, 11:43:00 AM
 :-*
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on January 26, 2012, 11:57:42 AM
Shifted flawlessly even with 10w30 test oil in it. It now has Redline MTL (best oil for AX5/AX15 in the cold weather in my opinion) and there is NO grinding even when cold. Got a sweet deal on it at Emerson Oil on Lyle Ave.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on March 14, 2012, 08:40:54 AM
http://www.rc4x4.org/rcforum/index.php/topic,16614.0.html
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on May 22, 2012, 11:42:08 AM
Anyone in the crew with two lockers have trouble with wearing out motor mounts faster than normal due to added stress on the mounts? If so, did you go with aftermarket mounts like Brown Dog, etc. ?
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Ryan on May 22, 2012, 12:50:56 PM
I put aftermarket mounts in my TJ when I had it, they are nice just for added security of know you wont break them. If you need to replace them, then aftermarket ones are the way to go.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: cracker on May 22, 2012, 01:01:46 PM
I am wondering if mine are on their way out.. my tranny shifter is still moving side to side a lot even after replacing the trans mount. 
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on May 22, 2012, 02:10:12 PM
I am wondering if mine are on their way out.. my tranny shifter is still moving side to side a lot even after replacing the trans mount.

That's exactly what mine does! My shifter moves almost 4-5" side to side when I'm in the rocks. Hopefully nothing breaks this weekend at 4x4 101.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on May 22, 2012, 02:24:12 PM
Gotta lot of stuff to do on this pile before I can wheel hard again:

-Front motor mounts
-New rear leaf spring bushing
-Change out rear driveshaft to old longer one and put conversion joint in, new t case output seal on slip yoke
-Move exhaust output location so that it doesn't melt my leaf spring bushing   ::)
-New 33" tires
-Rear diff cover and fluid change
-Remove body lift and have mounts redone on pass side (M4)
-New sway bar bushings
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on May 22, 2012, 04:25:51 PM
find out why the front pinion moves up and down 1/4"
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Harrison on May 22, 2012, 04:36:21 PM
find out why the front pinion moves up and down 1/4"

Pinion bearings? Should be HP front being YJ so no crush sleeve to loosen up, right? Mine did the same thing, pinion flopping all over. Good times replacing them and setting the depth in my parent's lawn.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Harrison on May 22, 2012, 04:39:26 PM
And of course, how could I forget Nick's pinion bearing experience. Hopefully you can find the bearings Haha
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on May 23, 2012, 12:26:38 PM
Gotta lot of stuff to do on this pile before I can wheel hard again:

-Front motor mounts
-New rear leaf spring bushing
-Change out rear driveshaft to old longer one and put conversion joint in, new t case output seal on slip yoke
-Move exhaust output location so that it doesn't melt my leaf spring bushing   ::)
-New 33" tires
-Rear diff cover and fluid change
-Remove body lift and have mounts redone on pass side (M4)
-New sway bar bushings
-Front pinion bearing
-Acquire spare TJ front axle shafts
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on June 05, 2012, 12:29:50 PM
Putting some newly acquired Rubicon Express extreme duty front leaf springs on this piece today. Pulled the guy who was working at A&A out of a Montage Mountain mud hole awhile back and he decided to give me the dealer price. Sweet!

Broke my 8.5ish year old Trailmaster pass side main leaf wreck wheeling on Sunday after RCQ. A fallen tree was precision cut via shitty hatchet to wedge between the frame and the D30 to keep the vehicle upright. My winch, two ratchet straps, and a bungee cord kept it semi-located for the drive back to the parking lot with periodic adjustments. Oh I forgot it was being pulled by a JK (details). Lol

Tried taking my third steering stabilizer off while I was under the vehicle last night but the cotter pin is so mangled on the castle nut that it WILL NOT come out. Debating on cutting it off. I am 90% sure it is dead weight haha.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: mr.mindless on June 05, 2012, 12:48:58 PM
how'd you get home? guess those springs were really tired of life, huh?
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on June 05, 2012, 01:04:39 PM
AAA got me home. Only reason I drive to Rausch is that the trip home is 93 miles. The first 100 miles are free so I get in by the skin of my teeth! First time I had to be towed out of Rausch though which is surprising.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on June 14, 2012, 02:31:22 PM
Updated to do list:

-Stronger motor mounts (M4 possibly)
-Install new rear leaf spring bushing
-Install other new front leaf spring on
-Change out rear driveshaft to old longer one and put conversion joint in, new t case output seal on slip yoke
-Move exhaust output location so that it doesn't melt my leaf spring bushing   ::)
-Better 33" tires
-Remove body lift and have mounts redone on pass side (M4 possibly)
-New sway bar bushings
-Eliminate front pinion slop

Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: rejeep on June 14, 2012, 02:34:15 PM
I have a 1" poly Body mount kit i didnt use if your interested..
also a set of body gap rubber...

killer deal on both
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on June 14, 2012, 02:43:28 PM
I have a 1" poly Body mount kit i didnt use if your interested..
also a set of body gap rubber...

killer deal on both

Sweet I actually want to remove my 2 inch poly body lift and just use the stock rubber. What do you mean by body gap rubber? I was also thinking of using stock ride height poly mounts (prolly would be best but may ride rough).
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Wingman on June 14, 2012, 02:49:20 PM
...may ride rough.

Do they ride any other way?  :-X
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on June 14, 2012, 02:58:04 PM
Vehicle NVH is out of hand on the passenger side (all the body mounts pushed through the tub when I went off the road at 40 mph and down an embankment  :-[). Anything would be an improvement at this point so I guess you may have a point. Although I'd like to get it back to a tolerable point so everything counts! Haha
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: rejeep on June 14, 2012, 03:10:02 PM
body lifts dont effect ride all that much
its bad springs and cheap shocks... (but leaf springs in general will do it)

gap fillers are basically extended guards for the fedners to cover "unsightly gaps made by body lifts"
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on June 14, 2012, 03:32:18 PM
body lifts dont effect ride all that much
its bad springs and cheap shocks... (but leaf springs in general will do it)

gap fillers are basically extended guards for the fedners to cover "unsightly gaps made by body lifts"

Oh I already have those and won't need them soon when I eliminate the body lift. Body mounts definitely affect NVH that's crazy talk. lol
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: mr.mindless on June 14, 2012, 04:18:11 PM
ride and NVH are slightly distinct...

and I think your priorities ought to be adjusted if that is an ordered list
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on June 14, 2012, 05:15:07 PM
Technical terms aside my Jeep vibrates much worse due to the damaged body mounts. I know this because when I turn to the right on the highway it stops vibrating (bad mounts are on passenger side) lol and it rode great before it took the dive off of the road

And yeah list is in no particular order. Just trying to check as many things off as I can.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: rejeep on June 14, 2012, 09:51:26 PM
Body mounts just transmit vibration.. They have no effect on ride comfort..
Body roll and piss poor handling is due to driving something with 4 leaves that's beat to hell..
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on June 15, 2012, 03:45:25 AM
Body mounts just transmit vibration.. They have no effect on ride comfort..
Body roll and piss poor handling is due to driving something with 4 leaves that's beat to hell..

I'm not talking about handling or body roll. I'm simply stating I have more vibration while driving due to broken/nonexisting body mounts. When actually installed properly, the rubber acts as a damper in the metal to rubber to metal connection. Rigid metal transmits vibration. Soft rubber does not, it absorbs it. What's the point of the rubber then in a body mount or even an engine mount? Why not just mount the body or engine rigidly to the frame then? You wouldn't do that because you'd transmit a ton of bad vibes across the connection. These types of connections need vibration dampening and "give" to absorb the energy created when driving, otherwise it gets transmitted to unwanted areas.

http://energysuspension.com/products/body-mounts.html

"Soft enough for a smooth ride..."
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on June 15, 2012, 03:53:58 AM
Also I'm sick of talking about the body mounts on this pile. The issue will be attacked soon so I can have an improved smoother ride, lower ride height, and no more fawking gangster lean.  ;D
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on June 15, 2012, 04:03:26 AM
-Stronger motor mounts
-Change out rear driveshaft to old longer one and put conversion joint in, new t case output seal on slip yoke
-Better/new 33" tires
-Remove body lift and install new OEM rubber mounts
-Install new sway bar bushings
-Eliminate front pinion slop
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: dubt on June 15, 2012, 06:34:33 AM
No more lean but how will I know is your jeep coming down the road?
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on June 30, 2012, 10:15:29 AM
Update:

-Change out rear driveshaft to old longer one and put conversion joint in.
-New t case output seal on slip yoke
-Remove body lift and install new OEM rubber mounts
-Install new sway bar bushings

Poly Trans mount ordered
33" tires ordered
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: mr.mindless on June 30, 2012, 12:38:23 PM
My rear bed mount is getting as bad as your rear tub mount!
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: mr.mindless on July 11, 2012, 09:05:18 AM
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Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: mr.mindless on July 11, 2012, 03:13:01 PM
Reportedly already spoken for and "gone"
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on September 06, 2012, 12:34:12 AM
Found what was causing that t case leak. Broken rear extension housing.

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Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: mr.mindless on September 06, 2012, 08:37:57 AM
BTDT... Several times.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: rejeep on September 06, 2012, 08:41:18 AM
twill happen again without a SYE
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on September 06, 2012, 02:46:02 PM
Yeah took 175,000 miles to have it's first Issue. 75,000 of them with big tires. Meh prolly should still look into an sye.
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on September 06, 2012, 02:47:07 PM
Putting Lucas stabilizer in this thing tonight. Heard good and bad things about the stuff.
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on September 06, 2012, 02:47:22 PM
In the engine that is.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: rejeep on September 06, 2012, 02:50:52 PM
i wouldnt bother...
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: dubt on September 06, 2012, 03:14:50 PM
Have used it in auto trans all the time,I believed  it helps, brother had good luck with the stuff that goes in the oil
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: mr.mindless on September 06, 2012, 05:05:31 PM
i wouldnt bother...

I'm a believer in their engine oil additive. It only matters when things go wrong though.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: rejeep on September 06, 2012, 05:51:42 PM
nothing thicker than regular motor oil is meant to go into a crankcase...
I have seen it in some cases CAUSE oil leaks due to the increase in oil pressure...
all these motor honey or lucas engine oil treatments just mask for at least a while a problem that is overdue..

they make a great product.. the whole line of lucas is the only stuff I use in anything... EXCEPT the engine oil stabilizer...

its a ghetto fix... as long as you know that going in, use away...  and just be sure to buy it form Nu Way!!!
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Ryan on September 06, 2012, 05:59:17 PM
Your logic is flawed. On a older engine there is wear that a thicker oil will help keep lubricated. on a new engine I would not use it. But on a Jeep with 150k it's will help quiet down lifters and stick to parts better for less noise and harm at start up.
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: etk300ex on September 06, 2012, 07:55:03 PM
The yota always get a quart! 
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: rejeep on September 06, 2012, 11:01:05 PM
engine oil treatments just mask for at least a while a problem that is overdue..

......

its a ghetto fix... as long as you know that going in, use away...


Argument is sound....  Agree or disagree....

Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on September 06, 2012, 11:37:19 PM
prolongs rapped LS motors
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: mr.mindless on September 07, 2012, 10:49:24 AM
all these motor honey or lucas engine oil treatments just mask for at least a while a problem that is overdue..

On a 100% street truck I agree. On an offroad motor that may lose oil pressure occasionally I'm in favor. Cheap insurance and a lot cheaper than dry sump.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Ryan on September 23, 2012, 05:58:29 PM
Replacement?

http://www.hardlinecrawlers.com/forums/index.php?topic=19019.0
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on September 24, 2012, 12:47:49 AM
moogs look annoying to race


killer buggy though
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Wingman on September 24, 2012, 06:58:22 AM
Portals don't do well racing.  Too much extra leverage to put up with the abuse.
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: mr.mindless on September 24, 2012, 08:27:38 AM
Karl doesn't have axle issues...
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on October 01, 2012, 07:35:31 AM
Jeep is not doing so well right now:

Spit cap in front axle joint
Broken shock
Bent shock mount
Stuck in 4wd

Was wondering when the next opening is.
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: mr.mindless on October 01, 2012, 08:10:57 AM
Trailer balls! ;D
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Wingman on October 01, 2012, 08:40:25 AM
Guess it was a good thing you didn't wheel Sunday...
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on October 02, 2012, 10:36:06 AM
Trans mount was broken and whole drive train moved to the side thus causing stuck 4wd condition. New poly mount went in last night. Main body of the Transfer case had a crack. Smike was a really big help in splitting the cases and piecing things together.
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on October 02, 2012, 10:36:20 AM
Jeep is used up
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: mr.mindless on October 02, 2012, 10:46:29 AM
I'm sorry that title is taken you'll have to find another.



How the fuck do you keep breaking tcases? Oh, no sye yet right? Do you think this crack was the cause of the ongoing leak after the last repair, or a new thing?
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: rejeep on October 02, 2012, 11:05:20 AM
buy my 4:1 case... SYE already there...
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: KingtheZJ on October 02, 2012, 11:10:52 AM
i have an h&t sye that i probably wont use. text me if you want it.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: rejeep on October 02, 2012, 11:29:44 AM
those only work on later XJ cases bc of oil seals and lenght
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: etk300ex on October 02, 2012, 12:22:19 PM
used up Jr?
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: mr.mindless on October 02, 2012, 12:32:11 PM
used up Jr?

better.

apparently the cool kids follow in my footsteps?  :o











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Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: KingtheZJ on October 02, 2012, 01:38:38 PM
those only work on later XJ cases bc of oil seals and lenght

true. i have everything you need to convert an isy to esy.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Harrison on October 02, 2012, 03:44:04 PM
SAVE YOURSELVES!

How? Give up and build a buggy now?
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on October 02, 2012, 06:46:26 PM
his plan is to fix the leaks and get her to daily winter status, then build a buggy. 


i think the case broke because of the added drive line angle and abuse in devils den


the an sye or CV rear would fix for good.
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on October 03, 2012, 01:49:01 PM
I'm sorry that title is taken you'll have to find another.



How the fuck do you keep breaking tcases? Oh, no sye yet right? Do you think this crack was the cause of the ongoing leak after the last repair, or a new thing?

crack was the cause of the ongoing leak after the last repair
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on October 03, 2012, 01:54:38 PM
his plan is to fix the leaks and get her to daily winter status, then build a buggy. 


i think the case broke because of the added drive line angle and abuse in devils den


the an sye or CV rear would fix for good.

Yes there was added driveline angle when the trans mount broke but the leak was present before that. Missed it. Face palm. Def need an sye.
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on October 08, 2012, 09:53:20 AM
Took this thing out yesterday and it drives like a "dream" haha (could be someone else's nightmare)

New Poly trans mount fixed a lot of the driveline vibes at high speed. The "random driveline grinding noise" is gone. Slop is gone too (obviously). Put new/used $8 ds axle shaft in.

T case is now free of leaks as well.
Engine oil pressure restored with some Lucas stabilizer.

New clutch is the new go/no go decision. loathe the current unit.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on October 08, 2012, 10:22:38 AM
ya, your clutch does suck i will vouge for that.


i noticed no leaks today in the lot!


grinding noise was probably shaft on muffler!
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: Wingman on October 08, 2012, 10:47:41 AM
Not so "used up" anymore?
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: M4wdFab on October 08, 2012, 10:51:51 AM
"lean two"
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: etk300ex on October 08, 2012, 11:23:32 AM
I like it
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on October 08, 2012, 01:11:55 PM
Need a front 6.5" lift shock lol
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on May 28, 2013, 02:53:12 PM
To do list for 101:

1. Switch out vulced baja claw (with a big dry rotted lump in it now.., Jared!) with spare
2. Fix broken trans mount bolt
3. Reconnect all exhaust :(
4. Install front new/used front driveshaft
5. T case fluid check, she's leaking AGAIN!
6. Check front and rear diffs
7. Hook CB up
8. Ignore rear frame rot ;)
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: jacel86 on May 28, 2013, 04:55:38 PM
How big is the bulge? 1/2-3/4" is normal(sticking out from sidewall, length can be a few inches). The fill rubber always ozone cracks faster, if its not more than 1 or 2/ 32" I'd run it. That's cosmetic. Deeper than that though I'd inspect to make sure the patch isn't compromised.
Title: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on May 28, 2013, 05:00:07 PM
I'll upload a pic. Looks not runnable.
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: GBR928 on August 07, 2015, 02:43:13 PM
Needs some love for late summer cruises!
Title: Re: Matts 93 YJ
Post by: rejeep on August 13, 2015, 01:51:32 PM
the rear spring hanger is just plain cool on this thing