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M4wdFab

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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #165 on: June 19, 2017, 10:42:47 AM »
to fill the deck with depot materials:

(11) 2x10 Pressure treated  287$

(11) 2x10 doug fir 173$


frame was built for true 2" thick, but would be fine meh.  need to think about it. 

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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #166 on: June 19, 2017, 10:48:02 AM »
go with rough sawn(?) wood
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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #167 on: June 19, 2017, 10:49:33 AM »
go with rough sawn(?) wood
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You will not like the short life of the PT or fir. You will destroy it too fast.
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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #168 on: June 19, 2017, 10:53:47 AM »
the more people i talk to about it, sounds like its super expensive, there are warping and shrinkage issues.

guy at work recommended Norther Edge lumber in rushvill ill call them for rough stuff now that i have a spread sheet (just for Nick) and i know what i actually need 

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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #169 on: June 19, 2017, 10:56:47 AM »
this thing will see relatively light duty so i dont think thats really a concern. 


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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #171 on: June 19, 2017, 11:01:33 AM »
Comparing rough cut oak to PT or fir is like comparing 572 to an Aveo. Well, maybe a TJ to an Aveo.


Install with grain arched up (end view of grain will be arch not U). Bolt at every cross member. if you use wide boards use 2 bolts. Rough sand with 40g on a floor finisher and hit will tompson's sealer. You need to seal the bottom too. That should solve the warp problem. Plan to seal every couple years.


Think about all the gazillion year old barns made of rough lumber without all the metal structure to support the wood. you should be fine.
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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #172 on: June 19, 2017, 11:05:31 AM »
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Curt-Manufacturing-Cur61052-Folding-Ball-Gooseneck-Hitch-Assembly/48360466?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227036472301&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=70630879849&wl4=pla-158321814769&wl5=9005654&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla_with_promotion&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=48360466&wl13=&veh=sem


need to tie that guy in some how too or a one of the plates from TSC

everyone one of those I have ever seen have resulted in having to use a hammer and prybar to fold/unfold after a few years.  Your application may be a bit better since it probably won't see road salt.

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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #173 on: June 19, 2017, 11:09:34 AM »
That's the hitch we welded into my C&M bed.

It has some hinge pin wear and rocks a little bit after a lot of heavy miles. No folding issues at all and it sees salt. I do hit its grease zerk every year-ish.
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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #174 on: June 19, 2017, 03:17:10 PM »
135$ from saw mill guy for white pine.  he doesnt deal with white oak for such a small order and would need a truck load to mill

said to just coat in waste oil once a year

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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #175 on: June 19, 2017, 03:32:33 PM »
Red oak is a LOT cheaper than white oak and a lor harder than pine. If you aren't going to beat on it pine would work. It will ding and split easily though.


Oil will work if you want to go that way.
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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #176 on: June 20, 2017, 08:53:13 AM »
last 16' of 2x3 put into flat bed so its ready for decking.  just need to finish up a little underside welding next time its on the lift, tie downs and hitches.  have a plan for bumper pull hitch.  still thinking about the goose hitch.  probably worrying too much about structural integrity but have a few ideas and want to have a flush or slightly recessed fold down. 

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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #177 on: June 20, 2017, 09:03:14 AM »
You'll pull your black box gooseneck trailer with that van? it's neck can be dropped down that low?

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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #178 on: June 20, 2017, 09:09:17 AM »
i dont think i would use it to pull the big trailer but i want it to have a goose ball.  4.10 gears and a 6.0 should be more than enough to drag some weight around

the deck is actually about what a normal truck would be.  For my RAM i have the big trailers gooseneck receiver raised as much as possible to get the nose of the trailer down to the truck.  i bet for the 49 it would be fine or need 1 or 2 holes down.  its probably very close to mikes truck deck thats 8" lower than my truck. 

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Re: project: 1949 FlatShopRat
« Reply #179 on: June 20, 2017, 09:18:47 AM »
awesome. Looking forward to see you putting it to work

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