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Title: bring the dakota back
Post by: mr.mindless on July 12, 2013, 01:22:35 PM
I should do something with my pile. what did a steering ram cost, again? I could strip some ring gears if I could steer without pissing fluid everywhere and see if the rest of everything really is junk or not.
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: M4wdFab on July 12, 2013, 01:39:01 PM
how bad was the ring gear chips? and what was your backlash?


put a new steering box on
put a new pump on
put a speedway 200$ cooler on it
put gears / inner pinion bearing / pinion seals into it  450$

loose the bed, roll some tube with expanded steel platform, mounted tool box / jack, and spare tire mount.  maybe loose 10" out of the rear while you are at it.


1000$ and 3 days in the shop this could be back for another 5 years of wheeling
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: etk300ex on July 12, 2013, 02:06:38 PM
Mine was 1ish ram, 3ish orbital, 2ish lines.  Lessons: does not work so well with TRE's, pump sucks, should of got double ended bolt on kit for 1000
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: etk300ex on July 12, 2013, 02:07:09 PM
1000$ and 3 days in the shop this could be back for another 5 years of wheeling

I agree
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: mr.mindless on July 12, 2013, 02:21:12 PM
deserves a fresh pump. that's as likely to be the leak as anything else.

It has a spin on filter and OK stacked plate cooler already, but on the radiator stack not with a dedicated fan.

gear teeth are pretty bad. it'll strip a spot if it load the area hard once or twice more. looks like the pinion was shallow on the. best pics I have without more than 2 seconds digging.

it'll still ride like SHIT. that's the main complaint (severely oversprung on both ends) - but no motivation to do anything about that without either good parts or a running working thing

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Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: M4wdFab on July 12, 2013, 02:27:50 PM
is that the a picture from front and rear, or both front?


is there preload on the case? if so move to pinion.  if not put a 0.005-0.010 shim on the OUTSIDE of the pinion race to kick it over :)

if the case preload is good, put 0.010 more under the inner pinion race and .020 in front of the crush sleeve, re crush it, done



dont run a pattern, it wont help you. 
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: mr.mindless on July 12, 2013, 02:28:55 PM
1) PS pump, DE ram

1.5) gears. 5.13/5.38

2) trans if needed. tcase mounts. legit tcase front input seal.

5) new link bars & larger heims in front. new geometry? nah. either softer/ more progressive coils, or coilovers
5) bob & link rear. coilovers, buggy leaf, or quarter elip. fuel cell
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: mr.mindless on July 12, 2013, 02:30:52 PM
is that the a picture from front and rear, or both front?

I think both front. look at the dates, I don't remember :)
No idea what preload/ backlash are like. I put fresh gear oil in them then, expecting to just run them until they fail.
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: Wingman on July 12, 2013, 02:41:47 PM
Drop it at M4 and pick it up all ready to wheel.  It's only money.  Oh, and time.

You've been out of the driver seat for too long.  You need to make the call to continue in this sport or bail.  Then act.
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: Ryan on July 12, 2013, 02:42:45 PM
I have a pair of 14" airshocks still. Could be had for not much money.
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: mr.mindless on July 12, 2013, 03:13:13 PM
I've wheeled more recently than Troy! c'mon.

Continuing to get my house in order while I work towards what I really want.

2 or 2.5, ryan?
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: Ryan on July 12, 2013, 03:20:58 PM
2.5
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: M4wdFab on July 12, 2013, 03:26:38 PM
i have lots of broke 2.0 coil overs


Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: mr.mindless on July 12, 2013, 03:39:37 PM
james duff progressive coils are $160 for 3.5" or $170 for 5.5"
or dever super flex 4.5 linear rate for $140, much softer than what I have now at 190#


I have 4" skyjacker in it now. they've GOT to be 400+#

14" 2.5s should work really well in back. keep the front suspension as it is with a better spring.

seems reasonable?

could even try just removing the add-a-leaf leaves from the rear. Would lower and soften in a couple hours' effort with no significant changes.
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: mr.mindless on July 12, 2013, 03:51:11 PM
190# linear seems like it'd be a bottoming machine. air bumps would probably make that not suck too much. I don't think I have room for those, unless I put them forward and put the bump pads on the steering truss. That's not so hot for later use of the axle.
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: M4wdFab on July 12, 2013, 04:12:14 PM
id put the air shocks up front , pull everything but the main leave out back with the box gone


linking the back you you doubled your cost and sextupleted your effort till next year
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: etk300ex on July 12, 2013, 04:22:21 PM
or different coils, and pull leaves even simpler
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: Ryan on July 13, 2013, 01:26:42 PM
$300 for the air shocks, I need a new water heater in the camper.
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: etk300ex on July 13, 2013, 08:19:16 PM
Camper?  I thought that pic was a joke lol
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: Liz_rn on July 13, 2013, 09:27:31 PM
Sitting in our driveway.
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: M4wdFab on July 14, 2013, 08:53:02 PM
http://rochester.craigslist.org/pts/3936160235.html
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: Ryan on July 14, 2013, 09:41:21 PM
Thats mine. And I don't think it will fir Mikes old Dakota.
Title: Re: bring the dakota back
Post by: mr.mindless on July 15, 2013, 10:28:20 AM
4.7 stuff doesn't interchange.


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