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Title: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 08, 2013, 08:18:50 AM
Thanks Erik for the business


Jeep being dropped off tomorrow



Will create a punch list for Tod, Step one is bring this 20yr off the road jeep back to life get it street legal and more importantly safe

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Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: rejeep on March 08, 2013, 08:22:26 AM
looks just fine... what wrong with it?
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 08, 2013, 08:30:20 AM
just needs the usual CJ love to get her road worthy

not sure plans after that-
Title: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: mr.mindless on March 08, 2013, 08:54:42 AM
Hope the frame is as good as the tin. Tough call from the top side with a 'glass tub. Is that where it's been for 20yr?
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 08, 2013, 11:27:19 AM
says runs mostly, stops and goes mostly haha
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: rejeep on March 08, 2013, 02:32:26 PM
well I just created my own inventory of jeep parts....  ;D
Title: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: etk300ex on March 08, 2013, 03:40:29 PM
says runs mostly, stops and goes mostly haha

Haha
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: JEEPWERX on March 09, 2013, 10:43:29 AM
Your very welcome Mike.
Looking forward to seeing another CJ brought back to life by M4wd.
Git er Done!

Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 11, 2013, 07:04:30 PM
Fuel filter
oil change and filter
Ignition tune up- Cap, rotor, wires, plugs
New battery Positive and Negative cables
Replace missing Battery tie down
new radiator (cracked inlet leaking under pressure)
new radiator cap
Fix horn (replace wiring / and or horn as needed)
driver side marker light bulb
trans fluid change
Tcase fluid change
front and rear differential oil changes
rear driverside spring mount repair / replace
all 4 drive shaft ujoints replace
both side wheel joints front axle replace
service / replace front wheel bearings
front and rear brakes
ebrake adjustment / replace e brake cables as needed
trans mount / motor mount replacement
frame rot repair driver side rear spring area
frame rot repair both sides forward rear spring mount areas
ignition switch replacement
seat replacements
grease front end tie rods (look good and tight)
valve cover gasket replacement (small oil weepage at back of valve cover)
remove all emissions components from engine
replace dry rotted tires
alternator belt replace (dry and cracked)
exhaust (muffler and rear tail pipe minimum)
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: rejeep on March 11, 2013, 09:12:26 PM
 :o
Title: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: mr.mindless on March 11, 2013, 10:04:22 PM
Sounds like a mostly a gem for NY native!
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 11, 2013, 10:27:43 PM
its not that bad really-  way better than my 5 was except the boxed frame rot


its a cool little jeep.  drove around the lot and to the pizza place saturday. 



warm start its cranky when i went to pull into the shop tonight after matt and i were done.  I think the choke tube is disconnected.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on March 11, 2013, 10:58:04 PM
I can't wait to see it running like it should!  I'm told that I am the 3rd owner of the CJ5.  The previous owner had it for a year, but never did anything with it.  I'm told that the first owner had it sitting in a barn for the last 20 years.  It was moved after the roof started falling in, but not before a block of ice fell through and landed on the hood/windshield.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 14, 2013, 11:53:57 PM
dana 30 stripped and drained
new wheel joints installed
old ball joints pressed out
new rotors pressed on to hubs

rear AMC20 brakes disassembled



Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 18, 2013, 10:48:56 AM
Dana 30 assembled and filled / new ball joints ect
Rear 20 cover pulled (lots of TORCH!)  replaced stupid torks bolts with new bolts, fixed dent in cover
rear shaft pulled and rebuild
front shaft pulled and rebuilt
trans mount changed
case drained and filled
trans drained and filled
exhaust removed
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on March 18, 2013, 07:57:50 PM
fixed dent in cover

Those are called battle scars!
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 19, 2013, 09:59:32 AM
day4

found both rear shackel hangers cracked
removed (ha- broke all bolts) trailer hitch
rebuild / drilled to ruff stuff bushings, shackle mounts ready for new steel on frame
ebrake cables assed, rears removed, front free.



plan to pull the tank, and start on steel work for rear of frame and forward spring mounts. 

nice that exhaust, Drive shafts, and tank had to come out anyway.   should be rolling back in 2 days, then do under hood work, then finish with seats and some electrical bits.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 19, 2013, 11:57:56 PM
day 5

4 rot spots prepped and cleaned

both ends of frame rails new steel welded in



looking good.

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Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: rejeep on March 20, 2013, 08:15:46 AM
did this jeep live in a salt mine?
Title: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: GBR928 on March 20, 2013, 09:06:24 AM
day 5

4 rot spots prepped and cleaned

both ends of frame rails new steel welded in



looking good.

Me next me next!!!! Lol
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 20, 2013, 09:13:11 AM
did this jeep live in a salt mine?

not by far- its still present.  i have seen 80's and 90;s and 00's frames in worse shape.... but this is no ians CA frame for sure.



i decided on repair sections in 4 places to take care of everything.  the outer frame rail is good, the inner is thin, driver side being worse.  rot was found further up the rail than i expected once the cross member was pulled to do the fluids/trans mount/ and easy shaft axis. 


should be all fixed tonight, then on to the rest of the list!
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: FallibleXJ on March 20, 2013, 09:28:43 AM

not by far- its still present.  i have seen 80's and 90;s and 00's frames in worse shape.... but this is no ians CA frame for sure.


 8)
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on March 20, 2013, 10:01:14 PM
I hope we are still talking about a fixer upper and not a tearer downer.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 20, 2013, 11:59:06 PM
Day 5 on the lift


frame all fixed up with new steel in 4 places.  looks good.  ready to remount rear spring shackle mounts.  doing good on time estimate.   

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Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: FallibleXJ on March 21, 2013, 01:48:45 PM
Did you actually cut out the rotten pieces all together? Or generally just grind off the rust and weld on a new piece overtop?
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 21, 2013, 02:56:19 PM
i ground until i found good steel to weld to, removed the big pieces that were rotten. 
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 21, 2013, 02:58:58 PM
cutting sections out of 2x3 box for the patches worked great.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: FallibleXJ on March 21, 2013, 04:04:12 PM
i ground until i found good steel to weld to, removed the big pieces that were rotten.

Groovy, was genuinely curious.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 21, 2013, 05:12:33 PM
would have been way to labor intensive to pull the tub, strip, blast and coat inside and out with POR which would be really the next step of repair. 
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 22, 2013, 12:09:53 AM
Day 6

New battery cables
battery hold down replaced
Cap/ rotor / wires/ plugs installed
removed smog pump
New radiator / hoses / clamps / installed and filled
New seats mounted



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Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: rejeep on March 22, 2013, 08:12:15 AM
love an old 258...
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 22, 2013, 09:33:40 AM
had to masagge the grill a little for the new radiator to fit.  mount points to fins was 1/2" difference in the wrong way, which the fan contacted fins.   found a sweet solution to missing / stripped nut certs with through bolts, accessed though the marker light holes :)

belt is so close, but need a little longer.  new hoses got massaged and cut to fit.

looking good under the hood!




hit list:
motor mounts
weld bushing mounts to rear frame
gas tank / line
ebrake cables
rear brakes
front pads
look at electrics
fill rear diff
install drive shafts
install crossmember
exhaust

Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 23, 2013, 12:46:49 AM
day7 on the lift o man!


front pads
rear shoes / drums/ hardware kit / new ebrake cables installed
rear shackel mounts fabbed and welded in
tank / sender assembled
front and rear shafts installed
crossmember installed
rear diff filled
pulled valve cover

battery dead o no! on the charger. 
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 23, 2013, 09:47:27 PM
day 8

ignition switch replaced
horn switch added / fixed horn
fuel filter changed
Belt changed
valve cover gasket changed
air filter changed
gas tank / sender / new line to pump installed
new oil pressure gage installed
wipers function fixed and wired
oil and filter change
motor mounts done




just need shocks and exhaust and this guy is done. 
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: rejeep on March 23, 2013, 11:15:27 PM
like stock shocks???

boo...

suspension upgrade required..
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 25, 2013, 12:46:31 AM
Shifter drilled and tapped for new knob
New seatbelt mounts welded in, belts mounted.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: Ryan on March 25, 2013, 08:04:18 AM
I dont have any that short.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on March 25, 2013, 09:43:14 AM
Shifter drilled and tapped for new knob

...so much for being assured it was 3/8 24tpi.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 25, 2013, 10:59:43 AM
details, it is now! lol

looked like coarse thread that was bent anyway.  no big deal.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 26, 2013, 09:57:29 AM
broken mirror bolts extracted and new holes taped / hardware replaced.
dash indicator lights changed and working
all gage lights working
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 26, 2013, 01:44:22 PM
parts bill to date sent via email.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: FallibleXJ on March 27, 2013, 09:02:29 AM
pictures!  ;D
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 27, 2013, 09:56:07 AM
got pissed, wiped phone again, didnt back shat up.


some on facebook, or here.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on March 27, 2013, 10:00:15 AM
Updated engine pic

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Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: rejeep on March 27, 2013, 10:01:29 AM
dont you wish you can dip the whole jeep in black paint..
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on March 27, 2013, 10:11:14 AM
Ha!  I really do wish that.  After the new wheels/tires are on, I plan on getting the Jeep painted.  At least it will look presentable with the hood closed.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on March 29, 2013, 01:26:29 AM
Shocks and exhaust done.  Rear tail light connector fell apart while removing rotted plate mount LOL
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on March 29, 2013, 09:17:02 AM
Maybe it did live in a salt mine.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on April 01, 2013, 08:38:00 AM
brake system seemed fine but i noticed the MC was half empty-  filled with new fluid, and now it leaks out the back lol


need to investigate.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on April 01, 2013, 09:00:22 AM
new tail light lenses and plate mount ebayed
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on April 07, 2013, 09:26:17 PM
Cold air induction duct, new wiper arms, wiper pivot covers, and some other misc parts arriving mid week. Tires are supposed to ship out on the 8th.  Hopefully will be to Jared mid week too.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on April 08, 2013, 12:29:35 AM
had parts and finally an open bay to work tonight.


New tail lights mounted we got off a TJ at the yard saturday, new ebay lenses
New plate mount installed
switch knobs installed
petal pads installed
Heater blower motor hooked up and working

new brake master installed tuned into a cluster of every brake line i touched crumbled, so she a few brake lines and new hardware.  PITA but got everything bled and holding fluid good.


was looking though inspection items, and i think you will need a rear view mirror thats missing from the windsheild.  hmmmm. 
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on April 08, 2013, 09:16:08 AM
new brake master installed tuned into a cluster of every brake line i touched crumbled, so she a few brake lines and new hardware.  PITA but got everything bled and holding fluid good.

I would rather that they crumble now then when driving down the road.  Didn't I hear you say "no job is too big, no fee is too big"??  :)

I will get a rearview mirror.  Any update on the seat placement?
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on April 08, 2013, 11:13:45 AM
going to be 70 tomorrow!   did you get plates and a 10 day for this guy yet!  i think a test drive is needed.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on April 08, 2013, 11:48:12 AM
Yes and yes.  I should have probably waited on getting the registration because the 10 day expired.  Will bring over this evening.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: mr.mindless on April 08, 2013, 11:52:50 AM
My 10 day from Incomplete is shot too.

Scotty's is a ways from you. You friendly with that shop at your work driveway yet?
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on April 08, 2013, 12:01:59 PM
not friendly, but matt had good luck with the dodge and yj.  Apparently flashing your delphi badge helps. 


bring the wiper arms over too Tod if you have them. 


Ill be in the shop at 6.  Have to deliver a motor in Greece after work. 
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on April 08, 2013, 12:44:22 PM
Sounds good.  I have the original wiper arms that I can bring.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on April 19, 2013, 08:33:21 AM
backordered wheels! bah!


need one more night and Tod is going to grab for now.


To do list:

swap copper line to oil gage
drill two holes in driver seat to bolt down without slider
weld in two additional nutserts for belts to make lap belts 6" longer.  (fat guys like me barely fit)
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on April 22, 2013, 12:28:35 PM
Mike, do you think the wheels on the Jeep now could be cleaned up and painted (or powder coated) black?  Finding new wheels is proving to be an impossible mission.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on April 22, 2013, 01:09:36 PM
I think the wheels could be painted or powdercoated- and you probably could get new center caps, or just leave them off.


what size are you trying to get again?

summit has these and they would ship today:  and a bunch other

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/crr-3975755/overview/ 
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on April 22, 2013, 01:57:17 PM
I just ordered those a few min before your post came through.  Through this process, I've found that Summit isn't accurate with status of some of the wheels.  I had to call them to verify that they actually had stock.  I had tried to do the same with Quadratec, but found them to be less than helpful.  I had asked what they had in stock for a 15x7, black, steel wheels with a 5x5.5 bolt pattern...they told me that if I need to give specific part numbers for them to check.  What a pain.

Those wheels from Summit are supposed to ship this evening from OH and go direct to Jared.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on April 22, 2013, 02:12:13 PM
summit is great-  type in "wheel" in the search-  then on the left side, you can narrow your search by width, bolt pattern, back space, color, price


i found 7-10 wheels in the 60$ range that would work for you in "black"


the status is usually pretty good.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on April 29, 2013, 11:30:39 AM
wiper arms / wipers installed
intake air hose installed
driver seat holes drilled and mounted 1" lower



hows the wheels looking? or do you want it this week?  i think im done as far as i can go.  Ill get the paper work / bill together.

should pass inspection minus tires, possibly a rear view mirror (has 2/3 so should pass)


Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: jacel86 on April 29, 2013, 11:43:10 AM
Wheels/tires will be delivered this week to you Mike. I'll let you know before we head up.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on April 29, 2013, 12:01:14 PM
I have the review mirror and can drop that off this evening.  Other than that, I think we are done??
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on April 29, 2013, 02:44:51 PM
i think so!  i did a final light check and let the cooling system warm up again last night.  Looks good.  I can give you the 3 second tour of the 4 screws on the side of the carb you might find your self monkeying with from winter / summer driving.

Hopefully Wednesday it will be nice for a good test drive to make sure all is good at speed!


i wont be in the shop tonight, but you can drop it in the ford, or wait till tomorrow.

If the wheels are good, we will get a sticker on it and all should be good!
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on April 29, 2013, 05:07:14 PM
I would appreciate the demo on the carb.

Wednesday is supposed to be sunny and 70+...could be a great night for a test drive.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: jacel86 on April 30, 2013, 12:32:54 PM
What time are you out of work tomorrow Mike? I could ditch out early to drop these tires to you.
(I'll use it as an excuse to actually make a meeting for a change)
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on April 30, 2013, 12:39:27 PM
i will probably be out around 5:30 and could stop at the shop
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on May 02, 2013, 07:56:32 AM
let me know what time today for tires, i left my phone at home  >:(

i should be there at 5.  tons of meetings today but might be able to shoot out for a little bit. 
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: jacel86 on May 02, 2013, 08:41:25 AM
I need to get some stuff in Rochester myself anyway so I'll run them up end of day. Probably be there just after 5
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on May 02, 2013, 09:57:04 AM
cool
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: jacel86 on May 02, 2013, 05:34:02 PM
M4wd is abandoned! Where is everyone? Lol
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on May 02, 2013, 05:38:33 PM
sorry, leaving my desk in 5 min, ill be there in 10

shit hit fan at real job
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: jacel86 on May 02, 2013, 05:40:25 PM
Me yesterday, you today. Stupid real jobs.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: mr.mindless on May 02, 2013, 05:42:23 PM
damn straight.

all week.

and probably all summer. and fall. and winter. late spring is looking decent?
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: Ryan on May 02, 2013, 06:34:51 PM
Yea. Damn jobs.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: Wingman on May 02, 2013, 08:11:22 PM
hahaha... ;)
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on May 02, 2013, 11:55:53 PM
Mike, will you be around Fri to settle up?
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on May 03, 2013, 12:37:13 AM
Taking to get inspected tomorrow afternoon, I should be at the shop till about 5.  We are graded south to race this weekend.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on May 14, 2013, 09:46:33 AM
The three tone color scheme will be gone soon...

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Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: rejeep on May 14, 2013, 09:54:58 AM
tip...

take the tires of...
no matter how careful you are there is always something that gets on them...

glass and headlights out... makes a HUGE difference even if you mask them well

Take as much sheet metal off as you can and get all the way around...

PREP WORK!!!  its 90% of how paint comes out
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on May 14, 2013, 10:05:54 AM
Thanks for the tips.  I am having the guys who paint the airplanes at the Canandaigua airport do this as a side project.  I will talk with them further about their process.
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: rejeep on May 14, 2013, 10:14:10 AM
Alu and Steel need to be prepped differently..
I learned that the hard way with the rover...

ask them if they are intereted in other "side" work...
I always have stuff...
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: M4wdFab on May 14, 2013, 11:44:30 AM
awesome progress!
Title: Re: 1979 CJ 5 - Tods jeep resurrection
Post by: TT Flier on May 28, 2013, 04:31:00 PM
One more week and it should be done...Bumpers, fuel tank cover, etc need to be painted black.  Hard to believe the tranformation.

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