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Title: lighting at my house
Post by: carchameleon on January 06, 2017, 04:44:21 PM
we want to put LED lights in a bunch of our rooms and probably a bunch of dimmers on the lights too

We bought a LED light fixture for our bedroom, also a dimmer switch.
the fixture: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Hampton-Bay-15-in-Oil-Rubbed-Bronze-LED-Flushmount-IUY8011L-ORB/206667104
the dimmer switch:http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lutron-Toggler-150-Watt-Single-Pole-3-Way-CFL-LED-Dimmer-White-TGCL-153PH-WH/202746671
from the brightest point, it dims to a point then it jumps to almost off
I don't know what the issue is, trying to figure it out
With a different fixture and dimmer in another room it works fine.
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: luvmyxj on January 06, 2017, 04:53:42 PM
i dont see anywhere on the light fixtures specs that it is dimmable, led still has to be deemed dimmable

i see though on the description it has a compatible dimmer switch and your switch isnt on it
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: Wingman on January 06, 2017, 05:04:45 PM
yeah, must have a dimmer compatible with LEDs.
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: rejeep on January 06, 2017, 05:17:33 PM
yeah, must have a dimmer compatible with LEDs.

and LED's compatible with dimmers...
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: carchameleon on January 06, 2017, 05:51:13 PM
i am aware of that. 
the fixtures and dimmers are all dimmable
give me some credit... 

I see the list your talking about troy, thanks...
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: carchameleon on January 07, 2017, 07:33:31 PM
ok, went to Maynards and got one of the switches on the list of approved dimmers

does the same thing...

I don't understand why i'm having this issue
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: jaysenodell on January 07, 2017, 08:01:01 PM
Validate voltage at the socket and input side of the switch. If you're under 110 that is likely the problem. Also check for floating ground at the socket (voltage check socket ground to an earth ground with the switch on, off, and dimmed). ground should always be 0v.


I'm assuming you have tried a different bulb with with switch. If not, if could be a bad bulb that is not properly setting "0v reference" internally.
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: carchameleon on January 07, 2017, 09:03:22 PM
the fixture is a LED fixture, everything is integrated in the fixture

I will check voltage
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: jaysenodell on January 08, 2017, 07:59:33 AM
the fixture is a LED fixture, everything is integrated in the fixture
Exactly. If it isn't a floating ground (ground is not true 0) then it may be a bad internal component. Hence swapping bulbs. It really sounds like a the ground at the socket isn't actually 0v at some point. Either it isn't really an earth ground or it is tied to the switch resulting in ground raising as the switch dumps to it (dimming). Two switches with the same symptom mean you really only have three options:
1. The voltage supplied to the socket is bad (not 110 or floating ground)
2. The bulb is bad.
3. Your experience is by design.
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: etk300ex on January 09, 2017, 10:36:24 AM
Most residential fixture will only dim to around 20% and then cut off completely, it shouldn't "jump".  That leads me to believe there is an there is an issue with the driver to me. 

I noticed its a 3-way dimmer, I assume you have it correctly wired for single pole?

Modern dimmers do not "dump" any power, they just chop the sin wave (flicker). 



Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: M4wdFab on January 09, 2017, 11:26:32 AM
i screwed in some LED bulbs into some of my moms most used fixtures last night


that is all i have to add to this thread
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: mr.mindless on January 09, 2017, 11:36:00 AM
Well, since we're on that: I have several Hue bulbs and love them. I plan to get more sometime - even more useful now with voice control through Echo.
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: luvmyxj on January 09, 2017, 01:09:24 PM
ive replaced my crappy yellow bulbs with these daylight leds in the garage
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Philips-60W-Equivalent-Daylight-A19-LED-Light-Bulb-4-Pack-460329/206557595?MERCH=REC-_-NavPLPHorizontal1_rr-_-NA-_-206557595-_-N
6 of those are putting out more light then my 8 of my t8 bulbs
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: carchameleon on January 09, 2017, 02:13:31 PM
Most residential fixture will only dim to around 20% and then cut off completely, it shouldn't "jump".  That leads me to believe there is an there is an issue with the driver to me. 

I noticed its a 3-way dimmer, I assume you have it correctly wired for single pole?

Modern dimmers do not "dump" any power, they just chop the sin wave (flicker).

yes I do have it wired for single pole.  I followed the instructions...

This afternoon I'm going to move the fixture to see if that makes a difference.
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: carchameleon on January 11, 2017, 04:44:16 PM
different fixture works fine...
Title: Re: lighting at my house
Post by: etk300ex on January 12, 2017, 08:04:29 AM
Junk!


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