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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #150 on: January 14, 2013, 03:54:11 PM »
Cuomos bill to limit mags to 7 rounds  http://www.whec.com/news/stories/s2895673.shtml?cat=565

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12g pump
« Reply #151 on: January 15, 2013, 06:33:05 AM »

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #152 on: January 15, 2013, 07:22:57 AM »
Yhar... I'm thinking I'm going to move to Texas.

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #153 on: January 15, 2013, 08:12:30 AM »
You have to register you now illegal guns, limit your 10-round magazines to 7, re-register your handgun permit every 5 years, and get a background check to buy ammo. One thing that is cool, is that there are protections, if your county deems it prudent,  if you want to have your handgun permit info private, so you won't end up in a newspaper like earlier this month.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/14/cuomo-new-york-guns/1833271/


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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #154 on: January 15, 2013, 08:44:17 AM »
Can I quit NY yet?  This is stupid.
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #155 on: January 15, 2013, 08:52:22 AM »
Can I quit NY yet?  This is stupid.

you don't have to stay here to collect your pension right?

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #156 on: January 15, 2013, 09:30:10 AM »
Come on down to Florida.  Can leave the top off the jeep all year and a pistol permit is less than 90 days response time.

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #157 on: January 15, 2013, 09:53:48 AM »
Can I quit NY yet?  This is stupid.

you don't have to stay here to collect your pension right?

No.  There are a handful of states that don't tax it either.  FL is one.
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #158 on: January 15, 2013, 10:15:09 AM »
http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1833271?preferredArticleViewMode=single

Good lord they have gone full retard.

Fuck you, Cuomo. Fuck. You.

Ellen Jaffee, fuck you too. Even harder. "Ellen Jaffee, D-Suffern in Rockland County, said a quick vote was prudent, saying she was concerned that a delay could lead to less stringent regulations."

It's like the fucking health care bill. WE HAVE TO PASS THIS NOW!NOW!NOW! SO WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT'S IN IT.

Beyond disgusting. Ram it through without any chance for discussion. Leverage the passion and ignore rational thought. Fuck.
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Re: Re: 12g pump
« Reply #159 on: January 15, 2013, 11:43:50 AM »
Can I quit NY yet?  This is stupid.

you don't have to stay here to collect your pension right?

No.  There are a handful of states that don't tax it either.  FL is one.
It's awesome like New Hampshire they don't tax any income. And have 6% sales tax!

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #160 on: January 15, 2013, 12:46:05 PM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/14/gun-law-push-faces-slow-start-in-most-states/1834825/

interesting, states pushing for gun control are not considering mental health or school security

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #161 on: January 15, 2013, 05:05:43 PM »
actual text of the law. Educate yourself and know what it says.
I think the 10-22 is ok with a 10 round rotating internal clip?

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2230-2013

Pertaining to Assault Weapon Definition:



S 37. Subdivision 22 of section 265.00 of the penal law, as  added  by
 chapter 189 of the laws of 2000, is amended to read as follows:


 (A)  A  SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE
 MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS:

 (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK;
 (II) A PISTOL GRIP THAT PROTRUDES CONSPICUOUSLY BENEATH THE ACTION  OF
 THE WEAPON;
 (III) A THUMBHOLE STOCK;
 (IV)  A  SECOND  HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE
 NON-TRIGGER HAND;
 (V) A BAYONET MOUNT;
 (VI) A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, MUZZLE COMPENSATOR, OR THREADED
 BARREL DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A  FLASH  SUPPRESSOR,  MUZZLE  BREAK,  OR
 MUZZLE COMPENSATOR;
 (VII) A GRENADE LAUNCHER; OR
        S. 2230                            19                            A. 2388
 (B)  A  SEMIAUTOMATIC  SHOTGUN  THAT HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING
 CHARACTERISTICS:

 (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK;
 (II) A THUMBHOLE STOCK;
 (III)  A  SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE
 NON-TRIGGER HAND;
 (IV) A FIXED MAGAZINE CAPACITY IN EXCESS OF SEVEN ROUNDS;
 (V) AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE; OR
 (C) A SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A  DETACHABLE
 MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS:

 (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK;
 (II) A THUMBHOLE STOCK;
 (III)  A  SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE
 NON-TRIGGER HAND;
 (IV) CAPACITY TO ACCEPT AN AMMUNITION MAGAZINE THAT  ATTACHES  TO  THE
 PISTOL OUTSIDE OF THE PISTOL GRIP;
 (V)  A  THREADED  BARREL CAPABLE OF ACCEPTING A BARREL EXTENDER, FLASH
 SUPPRESSOR, FORWARD HANDGRIP, OR SILENCER;
 (VI) A SHROUD THAT IS ATTACHED TO, OR PARTIALLY OR  COMPLETELY  ENCIR
 CLES,  THE  BARREL AND THAT PERMITS THE SHOOTER TO HOLD THE FIREARM WITH
 THE NON-TRIGGER HAND WITHOUT BEING BURNED;
 (VII) A MANUFACTURED WEIGHT OF FIFTY OUNCES OR MORE WHEN THE PISTOL IS
 UNLOADED; OR
 (VIII) A SEMIAUTOMATIC VERSION  OF  AN  AUTOMATIC  RIFLE,  SHOTGUN  OR
 FIREARM;
 (D) A REVOLVING CYLINDER SHOTGUN;
 (E)  A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE, A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR A SEMIAUTOMATIC
 PISTOL OR WEAPON DEFINED IN SUBPARAGRAPH (V) OF PARAGRAPH (E) OF  SUBDI
 VISION  TWENTY-TWO OF SECTION 265.00 OF THIS CHAPTER AS ADDED BY CHAPTER
 ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY-NINE OF  THE  LAWS  OF  TWO  THOUSAND  AND  OTHERWISE
 LAWFULLY  POSSESSED PURSUANT TO SUCH CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND
 PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER FOURTEENTH, NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR;
 (F) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE, A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR A  SEMIAUTOMATIC
 PISTOL  OR  WEAPON DEFINED IN PARAGRAPH (A), (B) OR (C) OF THIS SUBDIVI
 SION, POSSESSED PRIOR TO THE DATE OF ENACTMENT OF  THE  CHAPTER  OF  THE
 LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS PARAGRAPH;
 (G) PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT SUCH TERM DOES NOT INCLUDE:

 (I)  ANY  RIFLE,  SHOTGUN  OR  PISTOL THAT (A) IS MANUALLY OPERATED BY
 BOLT, PUMP, LEVER OR SLIDE ACTION; (B)  HAS  BEEN  RENDERED  PERMANENTLY
 INOPERABLE;  OR  (C)  IS  AN  ANTIQUE  FIREARM  AS  DEFINED IN 18 U.S.C.
 921(A)(16);
 (II) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT CANNOT ACCEPT  A  DETACHABLE  MAGAZINE
 THAT HOLDS MORE THAN FIVE ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION;
 (III)  A  SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN THAT CANNOT HOLD MORE THAN FIVE ROUNDS
 OF AMMUNITION IN A FIXED OR DETACHABLE MAGAZINE; OR
 (IV) A RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR PISTOL, OR A REPLICA OR A DUPLICATE  THEREOF,
 SPECIFIED IN APPENDIX A TO 18 U.S.C. 922 AS SUCH WEAPON WAS MANUFACTURED
 ON  OCTOBER  FIRST,  NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-THREE. THE MERE FACT THAT A
 WEAPON IS NOT LISTED IN APPENDIX A SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUED TO  MEAN  THAT
 SUCH WEAPON IS AN ASSAULT WEAPON;
 (V) ANY WEAPON VALIDLY REGISTERED PURSUANT TO SUBDIVISION SIXTEEN-A OF
 SECTION  400.00  OF  THIS  CHAPTER. SUCH WEAPONS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE
 PROVISIONS OF PARAGRAPH (H) OF THIS SUBDIVISION;
 (VI) ANY FIREARM, RIFLE, OR SHOTGUN THAT  WAS  MANUFACTURED  AT  LEAST
 FIFTY YEARS PRIOR TO THE CURRENT DATE, BUT NOT INCLUDING REPLICAS THERE
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #162 on: January 15, 2013, 05:42:59 PM »
Well, looks like it's going through...

S2230-2013 Actions

    Jan 15, 2013: DELIVERED TO GOVERNOR
    Jan 15, 2013: returned to senate
    Jan 15, 2013: passed assembly
    Jan 15, 2013: message of necessity - 3 day message
    Jan 15, 2013: ordered to third reading rules cal.3
    Jan 15, 2013: substituted for a2388
    Jan 14, 2013: referred to codes
    Jan 14, 2013: DELIVERED TO ASSEMBLY
    Jan 14, 2013: PASSED SENATE
    Jan 14, 2013: MESSAGE OF NECESSITY
    Jan 14, 2013: ORDERED TO THIRD READING CAL.1
    Jan 14, 2013: REFERRED TO RULE
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #163 on: January 15, 2013, 05:45:30 PM »
am i reading section 38 right? you can keep your 10 round magazines but you cant get caught with more than 7 rounds in it

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« Reply #164 on: January 15, 2013, 06:35:14 PM »
am i reading section 38 right? you can keep your 10 round magazines but you cant get caught with more than 7 rounds in it

Seems so. I read that will the the case for a year then you will have to have mags that are limited to 7.

Also seems my p22 is illegal. Has a threaded barrel. Nice.