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jaysenodell

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Re: 572
« Reply #825 on: December 11, 2013, 03:58:36 PM »
It seems to me they would be much stronger due to the reduction of the diff (resistive force created by kinetics from moving vehicle goes backwards through diff so ...) but then you would have an increased likelihood of diff explosion. It looked to me like these things use a standard open diff with spiders (but then I may not have been looking at the pieces correctly) which would seem to allow one wheel to freewheel with a pinion lock up (reverse of traction loss).


As a bonus, the loss of critical mechanicals and rotational weight at the wheels would seem to provide in increase in responsiveness (albeit small) and longevity.


That is just from the outside looking in though. I would still think an automatic would be prefered to keep the drivetrain happy in a panic situation. That won't fix any related diff explosions though.


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Re: 572
« Reply #826 on: December 11, 2013, 04:08:12 PM »
later.  they are way to dam heavy for now.

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Re: 572
« Reply #827 on: December 11, 2013, 05:21:13 PM »
thermal capacity is a limiting factor... but boy howdy do they do work.

was looking for and failed to find a pic of the sparks the MJ trucks throw during a freestyle run.

without lockers or spools though you're in bad shape if you lift tires.
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Re: 572
« Reply #828 on: December 11, 2013, 08:57:44 PM »
also.... what is this drive shaft speak?  its a pinion brake, not a transfer case output brake people... no load on shafts unless your doing a brake stand


never mind.. this solved it for me...

no more discussion needed...




I was picturing this kind of setup but with the brake on the driveshaft side of the axle pinion..

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Re: 572
« Reply #829 on: December 12, 2013, 12:20:02 PM »
Next weak link.  R&P


we talked about this, and dont forget- i running a 60 R&P on the coast side backwards.  good thing though if that blows, ill just cut out the center and put a 14 section in with all the same parts

umm 14 bolt front...

Are the splines the same from a 60 to a 14b?  or upgrade to the 40 spline...

Wait you are running a chevy front correct that is upside down?

So actually you would be running on the drive side of the gear.

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Re: 572
« Reply #830 on: December 12, 2013, 12:26:16 PM »
not sure if splines are same, but id get a spool or different inners


front chevy flipped with input dirrection changed... running on coast backwards

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Re: 572
« Reply #831 on: December 12, 2013, 12:27:08 PM »
rear 14 is flipped also, running on coast side

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Re: 572
« Reply #832 on: December 12, 2013, 05:53:38 PM »
Cut and paste:


Q: What's wrong with pinion brakes?

A: Nothing, really. Pinion brakes are awesome but there are some things that need to be understood about them. The main thing is that the reason they are so effective at stopping a rig quickly is that they use the Rockwell axle's deep gear reduction to multiply braking effort whereas a conventional axle has the gearing working against the brakes. But in exchange for this multiplicative effect the pinion brake spins 6.72x faster than a conventional wheel brake would. Thus, roughly about 6.72x the heat is developed to stop the vehicle. At 30mph braking at the pinion is very similar to a normal wheel brake rig riding the brakes at over 100mph!!! So pinion brakes are really good at stopping a rig quickly but not for long periods of time. If you don't ride your brakes coasting down long hills or go fast a lot then pinion brakes are probably great for you. But if you drive on the road or wheel at places like Harlan, KY pinion brakes probably aren't the best choice.


2.5 tons wheel brakes:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/944694-free-rockwell-wheel-brake-recipe-rims-smaller-than-20-patooyees-parts.html

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Re: 572
« Reply #834 on: December 18, 2013, 12:16:53 AM »
Yummy, want.

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Re: 572
« Reply #835 on: December 18, 2013, 08:24:56 AM »
Those look good.

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« Reply #836 on: December 20, 2013, 02:14:19 PM »
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Re: 572
« Reply #838 on: January 07, 2014, 10:58:02 AM »
pretty over priced, can buy all of that actually new for less. 

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Re: 572
« Reply #839 on: January 09, 2014, 08:56:51 AM »
new radio installed
rear track bar made 1" longer to eliminated some binding at stupid flex