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Re: Re: 12g pump
« Reply #90 on: December 26, 2012, 01:44:47 PM »
debate started..

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/issue-executive-order-banning-sale-assault-rifles-and-high-capacity-magazines/6y5ZJmvX

Might be the wrong forum for that petition... just a wild guess!
But thanks for letting us know where you stand!

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #91 on: December 26, 2012, 02:53:57 PM »
Pardon my typing...
maybe the wrong thread.

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #92 on: December 26, 2012, 03:37:34 PM »
All for guns and gun rights... Been a member of the NRA since I was 10 and started with daisy air rifles...   But there is a sane and insane level for everything...

Assault weapons and ammo dumps that rival small nations militarys are pushing it IMO...
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #93 on: December 26, 2012, 03:44:15 PM »
you said it- sane or insane.... has nothing to do with the method!


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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #94 on: December 26, 2012, 04:21:13 PM »
100%. method is immaterial.

"assault weapon" is made up bullshit and sets my hackles on edge. or something.
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« Reply #95 on: December 26, 2012, 04:48:55 PM »
I'd say its the misused term in America

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #96 on: December 26, 2012, 06:31:40 PM »
perhaps revert to the 1950's and throw all the loony toons in a hospital for life?

I think we can do better...  on both avenues...

whatever you want to call it.. its a gun made for assault, not defense.

Ive been reading a lot lately on this topic, a member of JF was a first responder to the Newtown shooting, and that singular instance aside its amazing the statistics from our "great nation" compared to the rest of the civilized world...

Im not super politically active on this matter nor is it a new cause of mine... but when you look at it without prejudice or bias.. it really makes no sense..

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #97 on: December 26, 2012, 07:11:23 PM »
Why do you or anyone else get to say what the AR-15 is intended for? If Americans give up the right to own a firearm, whats next? Maybe 350hp is too much in a vehicle? Ban "fast" cars, speed kills far more people than guns. Drop the speed limit to 40mph, lots of lives saved.

Maybe the right to freedom of the press should be abolished, or restricted. Maybe freedom of speech should go away, it causes too much trouble.

Make guns illegal (any kind of gun) and it ends up like drugs. Illegal, but you can get one anywhere you want, unregulated.

Mental illness is the problem, and just letting it go unchecked is what the problem really is, not law abiding citizens.

But whatever, the politicans are bought and paid for, whatever the banks tell them to do, they will. Dosent matter what any citizen or group thinks. Follow the money, it always wins. There is a plan to make us sheeple, nobody cares.

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« Reply #98 on: December 26, 2012, 07:32:18 PM »
No it's not, an "assault weapon" is nothing more than a few select accessories.  Same gun, same caliber, same accuracy.  It's a BS, make the public think your doing something term.

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #99 on: December 26, 2012, 07:34:29 PM »
A baseball bat could be labeled an assault weapon when used in an assault.

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #100 on: December 26, 2012, 07:46:58 PM »
the constitution is organic.. it changes when it needs to... slaves would still be slaves etc..
the spirit of the 2nd amendment wasn't that any idiot could be armed to the teeth..

It would be ok to restrict and monitor a human with mental illness but arguably not the same for guns or whatever..

the arguments are circular and throw out the conspiracy and big brother attitude and your left with both sides having compelling and legitimate arguments..

its an issue and a problem... with no good solution..


I think Mike put it best in a previous post...

this forum isnt for politics for good reason.
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #101 on: December 26, 2012, 07:48:12 PM »
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

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« Reply #102 on: December 26, 2012, 07:52:42 PM »

I think Mike put it best in a previous post...

Agreed

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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #103 on: December 26, 2012, 08:02:45 PM »
NON POLITICAL...

A baseball bat could be labeled an assault weapon when used in an assault.

you're factually wrong...
an assault weapon has a clear definition where as in an assault you can use various weapons, vehicles, body parts, or yes.. even an assault weapon...

stickler for syntax despite the fact I cant spell
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Re: 12g pump
« Reply #104 on: December 26, 2012, 08:18:36 PM »
I think assault weapon has many meanings, the one in that link is a new meaning. A true "assault weapon" needs to have a selector switch. But again, I guess things change. Assault weapons may include other weapons by the time it gets thru all the steps to ban them.

Definitions
A genuine assault weapon, as opposed to a legal definition, is a hand-held, selective fire weapon, which means it's capable of firing in either an automatic or a semiautomatic mode depending on the position of a selector switch. These kinds of weapons are heavily regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934 and are further regulated in some states. (See machine guns.)